angelburst29 said:
They are now investigating the possibility of the Amtrak train having also been 'struck' by something...
Amtrak train may have been struck before crash - NTSB
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They are now investigating the possibility of the Amtrak train having also been 'struck' by something...
Amtrak train may have been struck before crash - NTSB
angelburst29
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Redrock12 said:
Hi Redrock, so sorry to hear of the incident.
Not sure if this is the report?
http://railroadworkersunited.org/railroaders-killed-on-the-job/
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - April 9, 2015 - A CN conductor, later identified as 51 year old Kevin Timmerman from Melville, Sask, died as a result of injuries from an accident while working at a CN rail yard in Saskatoon. He was transported to Royal University Hospital where he later died. His mother, Joan, was quoted as saying, "He was very conscientious about his job." and that he was looking forward to his retirement once he reached the age of 55. The Transportation Safety Board (TSB) said it is investigating the accident.
CN worker dead in accident at Saskatoon rail yard
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/cn-worker-dead-in-accident-at-saskatoon-rail-yard/article23877321/
A Canadian National Railway Co. conductor is dead after an incident at rail yard in Saskatoon on Thursday night.
The Transportation Safety Board said it is investigating the accident, but had few details to share on Friday and was referring calls to CN.
“A CN conductor was killed while performing his duties. The situation is under assessment right now,” the TSB’s Julie Leroux said by phone.
“This is a tragic occurrence and our thoughts are with the employee’s family and friends. All circumstances surrounding this incident are under investigation,” said CN spokesman Patrick Waldron. In an e-mail, he said no further details were available.
angelburst29
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Severe Weather Derails Train Carrying Hazardous Material in Kansas (video)
http://videowall.accuweather.com/detail/videos/top-videos/video/4242623578001/severe-weather-derails-train-carrying-hazardous-material-in-kansas?autoStart=true&utm_source=accuweather&utm_medium=accuweather&utm_campaign=awx_videowal_lin
Monday May 18, 2015; 9:45 AM ET Hazmat crews were called out after 34 train cars derailed from the track in Lyon County, Kansas. Reports say a twister likely blew over the rail cars which were carrying hazardous material.
http://videowall.accuweather.com/detail/videos/top-videos/video/4242623578001/severe-weather-derails-train-carrying-hazardous-material-in-kansas?autoStart=true&utm_source=accuweather&utm_medium=accuweather&utm_campaign=awx_videowal_lin
Monday May 18, 2015; 9:45 AM ET Hazmat crews were called out after 34 train cars derailed from the track in Lyon County, Kansas. Reports say a twister likely blew over the rail cars which were carrying hazardous material.
angelburst29
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Niall said:
Hi Niall, this article reports, "The FBI is looking into whether there is any link between three different trains that were all apparently hit by objects just a few miles apart, within a few minutes, the night of the deadly Amtrak derailment." Video and additional photo's at link.
The Amtrak Crash: Why The FBI Lied And Why It Is No Freak Accident Lending The Possibility Of A Terror Attack
http://shoebat.com/2015/05/17/the-amtrak-crash-why-the-fbi-lied-and-why-it-is-no-freak-accident-lending-the-possibility-of-a-terror-attack/
When the tragic Amtrak crash happened, initially, the media and the FBI reported that foul play or terrorism was ruled out. When this misinformation came out on the 13th of this month, Shoebat.com reported on the same day, that such reports are not likely accurate, and that foul play or terrorism cannot be ruled out:
Prior to these reports, Shoebat.com even provided photos of the Amtrak train showing that a projectile also have hit the derailed Amtrak train:
The SEPTA incident which is a confirmed projectile also shows a similar concentric window shatter, a confirmed “projectile”:
The third train was “another Amtrak train, a southbound Acela train that was apparently hit in a passenger window” as ABC reported. The SEPTA “train personnel believed someone had shot at them” which “Philadelphia transit police dispatchers can be heard on scanner audio from Tuesday night, warning that a commuter train may have been shot at.”
Such concentrated shatter holes are not easily formed by flying debris. Train driver windows are 223 Type 1 standard windows which have “minimum requirements for glazing materials in order to protect railroad employees and railroad passengers from injury as a result of objects striking the windows of locomotives”.
The driver’s window are not the same as the side windows of passenger trains which must meet Type II standards. According to federal standards, the driver windows need to have glazing that will withstand a 40 grain .22 caliber bullet travelling at 960 feet per second, or a 24 lb cinderblock travelling at 44 feet per second.
debris are unlikely to have caused such damage. From the Amtrak driver photo one can see what seems like a possible bullet size hole which may rule out that such “projectile” was a rock.
One could argue that the derailment shattered the Amtrak train’s windshield, but this was rejected by Robert L. Sumwalt, the safety board official who is leading the investigation said “there were concentric circles on the lower left corner of the glass.” Concentrated circles are not caused by a crash trauma, but by a projectile.
The NTSB said that the second Amtrak train (third incident) — this one headed south — that had a window shattered in the same area around the same time. NBC reported that “on southbound Amtrak Acela 2173 and nearing the Philadelphia 30th Street Station around 9:20 p.m. when he was jolted by the sound of an object hitting and shattering the window of his train car.”
Wyatt Shipley
The Force is Strong With This One
angelburst29 said:
Wyatt here: While conspiracy theorists may seem like fruit loops (Especially with this Jade Helm) I have been reading about trains since I was old-enough to read. Yes, there have been accidents and I often attribute many to an over-relying on digital equipment, Stupidity(as in the Metrolink-Chatsworth Crash), human error(as in the over-loading of ore-cars) creating a RUNAWAY down Cajon Pass (I was there) and an unknown element that defies description. This unknown element (aka Murphy'y Law) is that if something can go wrong, It will go wrong; or a small insignificant situation Mushrooms into a series of events leading to a disaster. In studying some of these accidents, one often comes to a conclusion that these seemingly random set of events -- each cascaded to another, than another and finally---. It is true that 99.9% of the shipments reach their destination and all; but why did the AMTRAK engineer pass-out-- 8-Deaths? Why did the women not back-up off the railroad tracks? She looked right at the man who was yelling at her to back-up. An AMTRAK commuter hit the Mercedes SUV and she died. Why was the man walking on the tracks when a Metro-Link train hit him? (I was on the Metro-Link Train headed in the opposite direction; we stopped, backed up to the Rancho Cucamonga Station. Most all got off so to go by bus to Upland.) I was able to speak to some of the conductors and they said, "Suicide by train is becoming all to common and some lines have it twice a month." "Well at least he was on the tracks; If he was hit being near the tracks -- that would be bad," I said.
Maybe our Highly Technological oriented society is finding out that all of us are in over (way over) our heads and Technology isn't the Wonder Drug we all thought it was. Like I said, Technology, Train Wrecks, Jello Brained People, The Constant Sense of Entitlement, Lack of Compassionate Thinking and 7. something Billion People means we all do something or something does something to all of us. It was the BEST of times, It was the WORST of times-- :O
Best of Everything, Wyatt
angelburst29
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Subway System in Toronto, Canada experiencing problems:
ENTIRE TORONTO SUBWAY SYSTEM halted because of ‘major communication issue’
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-subway-shutdown-causes-early-morning-commuter-chaos-1.3104230
Monday June 8, 2015 - TTC technicians still trying to understand what caused communication breakdown
A power outage and a failure of a backup power supply caused this morning's crippling subway shutdown, Toronto Transit Commission's CEO Andy Byford said on Monday afternoon.
A power surge hit the TTC's Hillcrest complex, which houses the main control centre, on Sunday night, forcing the system to rely on its "uninterrupted power supply."
A circuit board failure then caused the backup system's battery to drain completely around 5:30 a.m. ET, at which point the TTC's communications systems went down, triggering the subway shutdown which lasted until 7:35 a.m. and left thousands of commuters stranded during the rainy rush hour.
Byford said there was no way the trains could run without the communications system, likening the situation to trying to land planes without air traffic control radios.
The outage also stopped the TTC from alerting passengers about the major issues through its online and telephone systems.
"I absolutely understand customers' frustration," Byford told reporters at an afternoon news conference.
"Our reputation took a big hit this morning."
Shuttle buses, which are often the only alternative for transit riders during subway closures, didn't run during the service suspension, because it wasn't possible to replace the entire subway's capacity with buses, Byford said.
[...]
Speaking with reporters at city hall, Toronto Mayor John Tory said TTC officials have assured him that a "thorough investigation" is underway into how both the primary and backup communication system could fail simultaneously.
"These things are happening more often than they should in a sophisticated transit system in a big city," he said.
Some commuters said they felt the TTC's failure to communicate the extent of the problem adequately to passengers made the situation worse.
ENTIRE TORONTO SUBWAY SYSTEM halted because of ‘major communication issue’
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-subway-shutdown-causes-early-morning-commuter-chaos-1.3104230
Monday June 8, 2015 - TTC technicians still trying to understand what caused communication breakdown
A power outage and a failure of a backup power supply caused this morning's crippling subway shutdown, Toronto Transit Commission's CEO Andy Byford said on Monday afternoon.
A power surge hit the TTC's Hillcrest complex, which houses the main control centre, on Sunday night, forcing the system to rely on its "uninterrupted power supply."
A circuit board failure then caused the backup system's battery to drain completely around 5:30 a.m. ET, at which point the TTC's communications systems went down, triggering the subway shutdown which lasted until 7:35 a.m. and left thousands of commuters stranded during the rainy rush hour.
Byford said there was no way the trains could run without the communications system, likening the situation to trying to land planes without air traffic control radios.
The outage also stopped the TTC from alerting passengers about the major issues through its online and telephone systems.
"I absolutely understand customers' frustration," Byford told reporters at an afternoon news conference.
"Our reputation took a big hit this morning."
Shuttle buses, which are often the only alternative for transit riders during subway closures, didn't run during the service suspension, because it wasn't possible to replace the entire subway's capacity with buses, Byford said.
[...]
Speaking with reporters at city hall, Toronto Mayor John Tory said TTC officials have assured him that a "thorough investigation" is underway into how both the primary and backup communication system could fail simultaneously.
"These things are happening more often than they should in a sophisticated transit system in a big city," he said.
Some commuters said they felt the TTC's failure to communicate the extent of the problem adequately to passengers made the situation worse.
angelburst29
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Tuesday July 2, 2015 - Maryville, Tennessee - Freight train derailment
Tennessee Train Derailment: 5,000 Residents Evacuated From Maryville (Video's)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tennessee-train-derailment-5-000-residents-evacuated-maryville-n385576
More than 5,000 residents were evacuated after a freight train carrying a "highly flammable and toxic gas" partly derailed and caught fire overnight just outside Knoxville, Tennessee, officials said.
Ten officers were hospitalized after breathing in fumes, Blount County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Marian O'Briant told NBC News.
One car of the train derailed and was on fire, railroad officials said.
An evacuation zone is in place over a two-mile radius from the derailment, near Maryville, and could be in place for up to 48 hours, the fire department said.
Two shelters were being opened for residents including one at a local high school, according to David Kitchen, senior disaster program Manager for the Tennessee Volunteer Region of the Red Cross.
The train was carrying acrylonitrile — which authorities described as a "highly flammable and toxic gas."
The EPA says the substance is used in the manufacture of acrylic fibers and if inhaled in high levels can cause membrane irritation, headaches, nausea and kidney irritation.
It was not immediately clear if the fire was under control.
The CSX train was traveling from Cincinnati, Ohio, to Waycross, Georgia, and consisted of two locomotives, 45 loaded rail cars carrying mixed freight and 12 empty rail cars, company spokeswoman Kristin Seay told NBC News.
"Cars of acrylonitrile are located on either side of the burning rail car," she said, adding that acrylonitrile was "flammable and presents an inhalation risk."
"CSX personnel are on hand at an outreach center that has been established. Displaced residents are being offered assistance, including lodging," she said.
Tennessee Train Derailment: 5,000 Residents Evacuated From Maryville (Video's)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tennessee-train-derailment-5-000-residents-evacuated-maryville-n385576
More than 5,000 residents were evacuated after a freight train carrying a "highly flammable and toxic gas" partly derailed and caught fire overnight just outside Knoxville, Tennessee, officials said.
Ten officers were hospitalized after breathing in fumes, Blount County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Marian O'Briant told NBC News.
One car of the train derailed and was on fire, railroad officials said.
An evacuation zone is in place over a two-mile radius from the derailment, near Maryville, and could be in place for up to 48 hours, the fire department said.
Two shelters were being opened for residents including one at a local high school, according to David Kitchen, senior disaster program Manager for the Tennessee Volunteer Region of the Red Cross.
The train was carrying acrylonitrile — which authorities described as a "highly flammable and toxic gas."
The EPA says the substance is used in the manufacture of acrylic fibers and if inhaled in high levels can cause membrane irritation, headaches, nausea and kidney irritation.
It was not immediately clear if the fire was under control.
The CSX train was traveling from Cincinnati, Ohio, to Waycross, Georgia, and consisted of two locomotives, 45 loaded rail cars carrying mixed freight and 12 empty rail cars, company spokeswoman Kristin Seay told NBC News.
"Cars of acrylonitrile are located on either side of the burning rail car," she said, adding that acrylonitrile was "flammable and presents an inhalation risk."
"CSX personnel are on hand at an outreach center that has been established. Displaced residents are being offered assistance, including lodging," she said.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Sunday - August 16, 2015 - Northeast, Budapest - Passenger train derailment
Trains crash near Budapest, 19 people injured
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/16/us-hungary-crash-trains-idUSKCN0QL0B120150816?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
Two trains crashed 50km (31 miles) northeast of Budapest early on Sunday, injuring 19 people, Hungarian police said.
Two people were injured seriously, Imre Kavalecz, spokesman for state rail company MAV, was quoted as saying by national news agency MTI.
The trains were carrying 30 to 40 passengers and were traveling at a low speed of about 20km per hour when the crash happened near Galgaguta, Kavalecz said.
An investigation is under way to establish the cause of the accident, he added.
Trains crash near Budapest, 19 people injured
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/16/us-hungary-crash-trains-idUSKCN0QL0B120150816?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
Two trains crashed 50km (31 miles) northeast of Budapest early on Sunday, injuring 19 people, Hungarian police said.
Two people were injured seriously, Imre Kavalecz, spokesman for state rail company MAV, was quoted as saying by national news agency MTI.
The trains were carrying 30 to 40 passengers and were traveling at a low speed of about 20km per hour when the crash happened near Galgaguta, Kavalecz said.
An investigation is under way to establish the cause of the accident, he added.
