Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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Siberia said:
NATO combat aircrafts arrived in Ukraine yesterday? There were numerous reports yesterday that Ukraine closed its airspace in several cities for some time: allegedly for those NATO aircrafts to arrive. :huh:

Well, it's obvious that Ukies are preparing for a winter offensive and the recent 'final' cease-fire which was so hastily promoted by Poroshenko after the visit of Biden in Ukraine reminds me of Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. We all know what happened after that...
 
Interesting article on the closing of airports here:

_http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2014/12/ukraines-military-command-closed-3.html?spref=tw

Ukraine's Military Command Closed 3 Strategically Placed Civilian Airports--to Any Civilian Traffic

On the closing of the civilian airports in Kharkov, Dniepropetrovsk, and Zaporozhye,
which was announced yesterday--explicitly "on the request of military authorities."

1. It is US practice to have logistical and military hubs based at airports.
The move comes immediately after US Senate made arming the Kiev junta legal and official.
2. The Mariupol airport was already closed before and has been functioning as a military base for a while.
3. The move indicates a significant increase of logistical preparations for war, a war evidently bigger and longer than seen so far.
4. Perhaps, most importantly, the most logical and simplest explanation of the change in the status of three airports is that the US and NATO might be setting their military bases there--at first under the cover of deniability or some creative and ambiguous term.
5. The airports can also be used not only for moving weapons, as is clearly the case, but also for faster movement and redeployment of troops, which might be primarily Ukrainian troops. For the way in which the war has been pursued gave the junta plenty of time for preparations, mobilizations (3 waves for now), training. This means that a whole "reserve" force could have been readied, trained, and might be now available for arriving to the battlefield as a sort of surprise for Christmas or the New Year Eve.
6. If I were in the other man's shoes delivering a payback for the Tet Offensive in kind (January of 1968) would be very much on my mind.
7. The fact that Saker predicts some offensive for the Spring is yet another (though ancillary) sign that the Kiev regime as advised might be now preoccupied with planning some surprise or would-be game changer. And possibly much earlier than in the Spring.
8. The insistence that the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics withdraw their heavy weapons (while Kiev is not doing any of that) makes perfect sense if you can ask the enemy to fulfill your wish much facilitating attack and he is glad to oblige.
9. The terms of the Minsk Agreements and the current ceasefire also mean that should Kiev decide to concentrate and pre-deploy troops for surprise attack, they would be safe (and no pre-emptive strike like that one that happened on the eve of the Kursk battle would be coming)--because of the "ceasefire," which gives Kiev a free hand and security of movement and maneuver.

The current arrangement just makes these things more likely. Donetsk is still very much exposed and the Debaltzevo pocket continues to be a festering tumor wedged quite deep into the two republics.

Kiev also needs coals. And that's yet another incentive of trying to go and just get it.

http://rrnews.ru/news/u3327/2014/12/14/96049
 
"General Winter" has now arrived! See this article: http://www.fixygen.ua/rs/companiesreviews/17356/
The article is mentioning Kiev's energy Ministry, stating that Russia is not being consistent with its' coal deliveries to Ukraine. Ukraine needs anthracite coal for its coal-fired plants, and the area of Novorussia is saying, "no way" on giving the Kiev crew any coal from that region. Russia has lots of anthracite coal and has been sending said coal to Ukraine, in stages. Remember when these Kiev thugs were saying that they didn't need Russia. They've done everything possible to try and humiliate Russia on the world stage. Now, it seems that they DO need Russia, in a BIG way! Isn't it amazing how cold weather can change things. Running black-outs are now happening daily (and nightly) in Ukraine. Welcome, General Winter!

Where's all that help from the EU?
 
I've read an interview with Russia's State Advisor, Director of The Institute of Problems of Globalization, Doctor of Economics, author Mikhail Delyagin: Is Ukraine Preparing for a Nuclear False Flag to Frame Russia? When you read this headline, the first thought is "it sounds too crazy to be true." I didn't even want to read it at first, because the title sounds so ridiculous. Who could think of throwing a nuclear bomb at Europe? Totally insane.

But if you read the interview, it becomes clear that this indeed may be the case: if such horrible thing happens, not only it will cause a complete disaster for Ukraine, but also Russia will automatically be the only one to blame: everyone knows that Ukraine has NO nuclear weapons. Moreover (the fact which was not mentioned in the interview, but which was reported in the media recently): Ukraine transferred it's highly enriched uranium to the US last week under the following pretext:

Ukraine has decided to export highly-enriched uranium from its territory to ensure that such material does not fall into the hands of terrorists. The USA, in turn, has pledged to help remove highly-enriched uranium to low-enriched uranium in Ukraine and to finance the construction of the Neutron Source nuclear research facility.

This was said by Rose Gottemoeller, the USA's undersecretary of state for arms control and international security.

If we recall the recent events: the truth about MH17 is now slowly emerging, the cease-fire in Ukraine is finally established; Ukraine is nearly bankrupt and US is not planning to sponsor its economic recovery. Such situation is certainly not what US wants. All they want is to spark the war between Russia and Europe and make money on it as they did it during WW1 and WW2. But Russia has been effectively avoiding war all this time. So what's next? What kind of false flag attack could put all the blame solely on Russia and ignite WW3? The answer seems obvious and horrible after reading the interview. I do hope that the author is wrong though. fwiw
 
Open Letter to the World from a Blocked Ukrainian Parliamentarian

My friends, here is my declaration. I ask that you share it to the extent possible. If you can translate it into other languages, please do!
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I, Elena Bondarenko, People's Deputy from the Party of Regions, finding myself in opposition to the current power in Ukraine, wish to declare that this administration has resorted to direct threats of physical elimination of the opposition in Ukraine; has resorted to suspending the right of freedom of speech, in parliament and out, and is implicated in complicity in crimes not just against politicians, but even against their children. The everyday life of an opposition deputy is this: constant threats, unofficial ban from the airwaves, targeted persecution. Everyone who calls for peace is immediately branded as an enemy of the people, just as in 1930's Germany, or in McCarthyite US.

A few days ago, Arseniy Avakov, the Minister of the Interior, an ardent adherent of the so-called Party of War of the Ukraine, said the following: "When Elena Bondarenko comes to the podium to speak, my hand automatically reaches for my gun." This, I emphasize, are the words of a man entrusted with the supreme police power of the country. Further: exactly one week ago, Alexander Turchinov the Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament, deprived me of the right to speak from the podium as a member of the opposition Party of Regions, only for this: I declared "Any power that commissions its army to bomb its peaceful cities, is criminal." After which, he magnanimously gave the radical parliamentarians the option to call for shooting the opposition. Considering that my car was shot at last year, when the extremists were already arming with weapons, [a fact on record with the police, on my complaint] such threats aimed at me must be taken seriously.

Further, I will inform everyone, who does not already know it, that the current leadership is covering up those who dared to raise a hand against the son of another opposition politician, Vladimir Oleinik. Ruslan Oleinik, performing his duties as regional prosecutor, was beaten up at his office, endangering his health, and even his life. Do they investigate the beating of a prosecutor performing his duty? No. Did they investigate the monstrous pressure on the leader of the opposition? No. Instead, this administration fired the prosecutor! Every day, from his colleagues I learn of beatings of their aides, of attacks on their companies, of threats, yes, even attacks, on their lives, their health, their property.

The Ukrainian media is completely sanitized from this information, and the typical Ukrainian has no idea that a criminal struggle is taking place against the opposition, and that the constitutional right of free speech is suppressed in every way. The journalists who overcome their fear and work honestly are subject to attack by nationalist mobs, but the organizers and participants of these pogroms are not punished, even when they are recorded on videos and photographs.

I call upon those international organizations that proclaim their support of democratic principles not just to notice this declaration, but to involved in this struggle for the preservation and respect for the democratic rights and freedoms of the citizens of Ukraine.

The methods of the junta in their struggle for power, or rather, for the establishment of a Ukrainian dictatorship, have nothing to do with any concept of "democracy." If the international community does nothing in the face of these egregious acts, it will look like complicity and silent approbation of all these crimes which are being committed in Ukraine. The free world will lose an outpost, Ukraine. All who fight for democracy, rule of law, and the rights of man, together, can achieve a lot. But only together can we stop the junta and the fratricidal war in Ukraine.

With my respect,

People's Deputy of Ukraine, Elena Bondarenko

Source: _http://www.opednews.com/articles/Open-Letter-to-the-World-f-by-Eric-Zuesse-Ukraine-141214-124.html
 
So, Israel has started bombing Gaza again. The last time it "coincided" with MH17 downing, as we all remember.

Aleksandr Zakharchenko complained today that Kiev has been and still is constantly sabotaging and postponing the proposed Minsk talks (for a whole week already).

NATO planes allegedly arrived in Ukraine at the beginning of this week too. Some 250,000 graves have also been allegedly prepared by Kiev.

The army of Novorussia is constantly reporting ceasefire violations by the junta, today a little girl was killed by the shelling attack. The army of Novorussia does not respond avoiding any provocations.

There are some reports (by DPR intelligence) that Karlovskoye water reservoir dam (near Donetsk) was allegedly blocked and mined yesterday by the National Guard. Other sources say that there are nuclear wastes near this dam.

And it all "coincided" with this week's unprecedented attack on the Russian ruble and oil markets.

A whole lotta "coincidence" this week. What's next? :huh:
 
Siberia said:
Avala said:
On MH117, and Ukrainian pilot who shot it down with SU25.

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1QH03NtVQ0#t=4396

I tried to find an English version of it and found out that the film is now also available with the English and Dutch subtitles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cdp_bkh1wE (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23RubF-VRVc (Part 2)

I think it's worth sharing in social networks, because it provides many interesting facts. What do you think?

What needs to be done is that it should be re-uploaded with an English title for social network sharing.
 
The following year in Ukraine will be held three stages of mobilization. This was stated by Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Turchinov after a meeting of the Security Council.
"We are waiting for the mobilization of three waves, the first - from January 20 to 90 days, the second - in April for 60 days, from June - the third, also for 60 days."
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continuation of the "truce"...
 
And while junta admitted that one day of war costs $ 6.3 million, but "we will continue to spend the money until we liberate our territories", said Bloody Pig.
and do not care how many people they have destroyed, and that we now live with daily power cuts and utterly intolerable prices for everything.
 
Yozilla said:
Also Serbia "started" war in 1991. as some people there were totally invested in their hegemonic (exceptionalists) pipe dream in EX-YU just like Israeli patsies are now in ME. That dream ended abruptly in 1999. by very NATO. That is how patsies (bullies once) are being dealt with, so it will be very interesting if pattern will be the same in ME. After all black T-shirts are creatures of habits...FWIW

I think that the comparison of Israel and Serbia during the 1990's is not 'objectively'. During those years Serbia was not allied with the US/NATO, unlike some other ex-yugoslav republics. Serbia (Serbia and Montenegro) was under total UN sanctions since 1992, and NATO bombing was the final step in the destruction of its independence. And it was done under false pretext, in NATO operation called "merciful angel". Does this sound like familiar pattern?

On the other hand, it seems to me that today's demonization of Putin and Russia by the western MSM is very similar to the demonization of the Serbs and Serbia during the 1990's by the same MSM. I guess it's hard to believe in that for someone who has been exposed to such propaganda then, but the pattern is very similar. OSIT.
 
Altair said:
Laura said:
Aeneas said:
Lumiere_du_Code said:
Media: Washington took the combine harvesters for the "Russian invasion" :lol2:



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Coming from a farming background, I would say this totally fits the picture: Namely that they are harvesters. The US sattelittes would be able to have picked up a lot of these during the month of August, since it is one of the key harvesting months. What is in the circled bottom area of the photos are grain trucks to haul the grain away and they mostly park at the edge of the field, close to a road, so as not to have to drive too much on an uneven surface (They are mostly roadtrucks).

Yes. We see many of these operations all around us here and it has been harvest season for a bit now (depending on the crop).

This would explain why those objects are lined up as they are in fields with obvious tractor tracks.

Another point is: who would place "artillery" unprotected in an open field? :lol:

This picture came up in conversation with my husband and after some discussion and looking at some images I don't think you can conclusively say, either way, whether these are harvesters or artillery. The vehicles in the photo more closely resemble artillery - self propelled artillery look a lot like tanks and I would provide some image links but I am posting from my kindle. The top half swivels, providing stability with the perpendicular base - they also require flat ground and are often situated in fields. Also missing are the long rotary cutting blades you would expect to see on combine harvesters, with the trucks underneath the pipes to collect grain were they harvesting.
I don't think people who analyse these images for a living would claim these vehicles were something they were not if it was to be so obviously or easily irrefutable.

I realise this is a few months old but it has been niggling at me. Truth is more important than believing what we may want to believe, and after the conversation this subject came up in it struck me that it is always important to consider all possibilities.
 
Another thing simmering in the background was the 2013 shale gas deals with a number of U.S. energy corporate masters. There was this $10 billion deal between Chevron and the Ukraine and there were more since. There was also a deal between Royal Dutch Shell for their slice of the pie.

In this SoTT article, there were a few familiar faces at the signing. These deals (including other eastern countries like Poland) were signed on the heels of the coup d'état, so with western corporate shale gas rights spanning from the western to the eastern Ukraine, the timing was interesting. With these types of players in the game, Gazprom and Russia were an economic target - and as people know, western oil/gas companies or their revolving door strategists, have written many a political playbook for NATO/U.S. and allies.
 
Soluna said:
I don't think people who analyse these images for a living would claim these vehicles were something they were not if it was to be so obviously or easily irrefutable.

I realise this is a few months old but it has been niggling at me. Truth is more important than believing what we may want to believe, and after the conversation this subject came up in it struck me that it is always important to consider all possibilities.

I don't think that people who analyze pictures for a living would lie, but their political superiors would and do, day in and day out. Fix the intelligence to fit the agenda, whether it be a SONY hack or MH17. Though they have the capacity to take satellite pictures that will show if you have forgot to dental floss after eating cornbeef at lunch, they choose to put a fuzzy picture up with a fixed explanation though it is obvious that doubts to the truth of the picture would arise. They would have put up a close up picture if it showed what they wanted it to show, but since none were available, they fixed the intelligence and added a grainy ambiguous picutre.
 
Argo said:
Yozilla said:
Also Serbia "started" war in 1991. as some people there were totally invested in their hegemonic (exceptionalists) pipe dream in EX-YU just like Israeli patsies are now in ME. That dream ended abruptly in 1999. by very NATO. That is how patsies (bullies once) are being dealt with, so it will be very interesting if pattern will be the same in ME. After all black T-shirts are creatures of habits...FWIW

I think that the comparison of Israel and Serbia during the 1990's is not 'objectively'. During those years Serbia was not allied with the US/NATO, unlike some other ex-yugoslav republics. Serbia (Serbia and Montenegro) was under total UN sanctions since 1992, and NATO bombing was the final step in the destruction of its independence. And it was done under false pretext, in NATO operation called "merciful angel". Does this sound like familiar pattern?

On the other hand, it seems to me that today's demonization of Putin and Russia by the western MSM is very similar to the demonization of the Serbs and Serbia during the 1990's by the same MSM. I guess it's hard to believe in that for someone who has been exposed to such propaganda then, but the pattern is very similar. OSIT.

Probably something like you can’t convince some ordinary Englishman that the esteemed house of BBC is lying, and probably since it is founded.

Croatia in the 90s was very similar with Ukraine now, with Croatian Serbs who really didn’t want to live under Croatian government how it was then, just as Russians, or Russian speaking Ukrainians in Novorossiya today. Of course, they were backed by Serbia, but Serbia is not Russia. The steps are exactly the same: sanctions, demonization in western media, and on the end devastation by bombing. With US and NATO “specialist and advisers”, who was been all the time those years in Croatia.

On the end, in 1995, Croatian army heavily backed with US and NATO’s planning, reconnaissance data, their special army units, weaponry, and the US air force which was bombing Serbian positions, managed to make remaining Serbs to exodus to Serbia (where they never lived, they were citizens of Croatia)


And all of that with the US AMBASADOR RIDING ON THE CROATIAN TANK IN FRONT OF THE AMRORED COLUMN.


http://articles.philly.com/1995-08-06/news/25708215_1_croatian-army-arms-embargo-croatian-president-franjo-tudjman
By Barbara Demick, INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Posted: August 06, 1995

ZAGREB, Croatia — When the Croatian army hoisted its checkered flag above the vanquished Serbian stronghold of Knin yesterday, the victory was not Croatia's alone.

To a large extent, it also marked the success of an only-partly- acknowledged American policy here - a policy of encouraging Croatia's military expansion as a bulwark against the Serbs' aggression in the Balkans.

The ways in which the United States has nurtured Croatia's military resurgence are indirect and unspoken - often flying in the face of public calls for restraint.

Despite a U.N. arms embargo on the entire region, the United States has politely looked aside while the Croatian army imported MiG-21 fighter planes, helicopters and guns through Iran, Turkey and Ukraine, according to numerous military sources.

Retired American military brass are training Croatian officers under a private arrangement with an Alexandria, Va., company whose officers include a former U.S. Army chief of staff and a former Defense Intelligence Agency head.

The U.S. ambassador to Croatia, Peter Galbraith, was the only foreign diplomat invited to a critical July 21 meeting between Croatian President Franjo Tudjman and Bosnia's Alija Izetbegovic. That meeting set the stage for the current offensive.

"By standing shoulder to shoulder, there was almost a signal of support

from Washington," said a Western diplomat here. "The Americans have been spoiling for a chance to hit the Serbs, and they are using Croatia as their proxy to do the deed for them."

and so on . . .

http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/civil.htm
http://cryptome.org/us-op-storm.htm
http://mprofaca.cro.net/operation_storm.html


Of course, Serbs were not flowers, it was war, but it is interesting that even today in general Croatian population’s opinion their army (Croatian) and country at that time was just smelling flowers and picking berries, waging one very just war against that “dread and awful Serbs”. While the fact is that they killed and made to run one quarter of their (Croatian) citizens who was of Serbian nationality and ancestry. THAT IS the power of the media.


Devastating Socialist Yugoslavia and installing puppet (or proxy) countries in it (like Croatia at that time) was just a CIA's testing ground. They probably are planning something similar with Ukraine. The steps done so far are almost identical, but in a much quicker pace.
 
Aeneas said:
Soluna said:
I don't think people who analyse these images for a living would claim these vehicles were something they were not if it was to be so obviously or easily irrefutable.

I realise this is a few months old but it has been niggling at me. Truth is more important than believing what we may want to believe, and after the conversation this subject came up in it struck me that it is always important to consider all possibilities.

I don't think that people who analyze pictures for a living would lie, but their political superiors would and do, day in and day out. Fix the intelligence to fit the agenda, whether it be a SONY hack or MH17. Though they have the capacity to take satellite pictures that will show if you have forgot to dental floss after eating cornbeef at lunch, they choose to put a fuzzy picture up with a fixed explanation though it is obvious that doubts to the truth of the picture would arise. They would have put up a close up picture if it showed what they wanted it to show, but since none were available, they fixed the intelligence and added a grainy ambiguous picutre.

Whilst I am sure the PTB are fully capable of fixing a ruse such as you describe, those images are satellite images and I don't know how detailed they would be in the situation. I was concerned that an objective view of the possibility these 'could' be artillery hadn't appeared to be considered.
Our objective is truth right? Even if it may not support popular opinion.
 
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