A bit of numerology in the weave of the events

Lapin Blanc

Lapin Blanc

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This thread is about relations that may be found or exist between certain dates and events.

The dates are set as day/month/year.

Please notice the random events are not presented in chronological order and may not be related one another at first glance. Might they in fact?

It must be taken in consideration the fact that from 2001 to 2012, we've had symbolic dates such as 1/1/1... etc, which ended in 2012 with the 12/12/12.
So the end of the year 2012 (in fact 1/1/13) is also a starting point regarding some considerations.

To start with, here is what I have posted on another thread:

The 26/9 is the 269th day of the year. Made up of the same figures, it is the only day of the year that has this particularity.
The 26/9 is 269 days away from the summer solstice 21/6. This day is stuck in the middle, no matter the year, that's the way it is.
Any other year, there are 268 days before, starting at the beginning of the year, and the 21/6 is 268 days after it.

The 26/9/15 is then 269 days away from the coming symbolically doubled 21/6 2(0)16. (Leap year)

The 26/9 is the date pointed out by Laurent Fabius about the "500 days before a climatic catastrophy".

The 25/9 is then 500 days after his speech so one year plus 135 days after the 13/5, day of his speech.
The Pope Francis pronouced his speech at the United Nations on 25/9, which is exactly 500 days after the speech of Laurent Fabius on 13/5/14 about global warming.

Bumped into this thread doing research on the forum: Incoming Second Sun?

It is question of a comet and its 333 years cycle.

There first was this comment:

mkrnhr said:
Yes this particular cycle is intriguing. I think it has been mentioned somewhere else in the forum if I'm not mistaken. Notice that 333 is half 666 :evil:
Regarding ISON and the great comet of 1680, they have almost the same orbit and yet, they are two different objects.
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Luke Wilson said:
No need to start a new thread about this, but has anyone ever heard of a 333 year cycle?

Let us start at 648 A.D.,
Fast forward 333 years, 1014 AD
Fast forward 333 years, 1347
Fast forward another 333 years, 1680
Fast forward another 333 years, 2013, comet ISON speculated by some to be the comet of the century.
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Thus corrected regarding the starting date year:

SeekinTruth said:
But the cycle is NOT 333 years from the first date started and thus throws all the other dates off that follow
.../...
So all the dates that are supposed match the 333 are off because the first one is off. For this 333 year exact cycle to work, you have to begin at 681, not 648 AD.
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The 26/9 is the 999th day after 31 december 2012.
It is 666 days apart from the 333rd day of the year 2013, the day the comet Ison was declared dead by Nasa before reappearing (Phoenix).

999 days is also 23 976 hours.999 (239 and 76 which is 2x38)
23 + 976 = 999.
The 26/9 contains the 23 900th hour. (we'll get back to 23/9.)

The actual Pope, Francis, is the 266th Pope.
He arrived in Washington, U.S., on the 266th day of the year, the 23/09.

The number of days due to birth after conception is 266 days.

Do you know what the Pope Francis likes to read? Check it out: Lord of the World.
(You can find sources by yourselves about the veracity of this information on the internet.)
What is it about?: "Lord of the World is a 1907 novel by Monsignor Robert Hugh Benson that centers upon the reign of the Anti-Christ and the End of the World."

"In a sermon in November, 2013, Pope Francis praised Lord of the World as depicting, "the spirit of the world which leads to apostasy almost as if it were a prophecy." "

"In early 2015, Pope Francis further revealed Benson's influence upon his thinking by telling a plane load of reporters. At first apologizing for making "a commercial", Pope Francis further praised Lord of the World, despite its being "a bit heavy at the beginning". Pope Francis elaborated, "It is a book that, at that time, the writer had seen this drama of ideological colonization and wrote that book... I advise you to read it. Reading it, you'll understand well what I mean by ideological colonization." "

Between the 11/9 2001 and the 23/9 2015 there have been 5126 jours, which correspond or echoes to 5126 years of the long cycle of the Mayan calendar, which ended 21/12/12.

The Plutonium 239 is produced in supergenerators and it is the element used for the atomic bomb.
Although the first russian atomic bomb was tested on 29/8/49, Harry Truman officialy announced it to the congress on 23/09/49.
The last U.S. atomic bomb was tested on 23/09/92.

The U.S.A. was founded on July 4 1776, and they celebrated their 239th anniversary this year.
The Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society, was founded on May 1, 1776 and they celebrated their 239th anniversary this year.

This 239th anniversary of the U.S.A. on 04/07/1994 come exactly 7777 days after the date engraved on the dedication capstone in the Denver airport: 19/03/1994.

On a clock, 23H09 is also 11H09 PM, mirror of 09/11.

On 23/9/15, Firefox celebrated its 13 years of existence, it was created on 23/9/02 under the name of Phoenix by Mozilla.

You may have heard of the Bennu, an ancient Egyptian deity linked with the sun, creation, and rebirth. It may have been the inspiration for the phoenix in Greek mythology. (Osiris/Iris)

The comet Bennu is an Apollo asteroid discovered by the LINEAR Project on September 11, 1999.
It has been first pictured on 23/9/99.
The earth crosses its orbit this year on23/9/15.
It was named Bennu on 1st of may 2013, day of the anniversary of the Bavarian illuminati, after an Osiris/Rex contest, the contest name being the one of the vessel launched to go study it.

Neptune has been discovered a 23/9, and the man who discovered it died on a 23/9.
Neptune, the god with a trident, trident also associated with Shiva, and also with Lucifer, Satan.
Trident associated with III or 111.
In Roman figures, 239 = CCXXXIX = 111 in gematria.

111 Millions was the amount won on the Euromillion loto on 23/9/2014.

The 23/9 the sun precisely rises and goes down on the axis east-west, it is an equinoxe which marks the arrival of autumn.
In the U.S. it is called "the fall".

The year 2015 has been made by the UNESCO "the year of light". The year of Lucifer?
Have you heard of the concert of "Madonna" of 23/9/12 and all its satanic symbols?

111 death when the crane fell on people in Mecca on 9/11 in the Gregorian calendar.
717 death on 24/9 which is in the Julian calendar the... 9/11. (Day of Eid al-Adha , "Festival of the Sacrifice", also called the Feast of Sacrifice.)
717 days apart between 24/9/2015 and 11/9/2017...

All of this is pure random coincidence, isn't it? Or is there something being built up such as a conspiracy?

You may want to check the informations above and may also find more interesting things.
 
Lapin Blanc,

Numerology may have some significance to events I think but I always wonder if the events are not being manipulated to correspond to the dates and numbers.

It was interesting that the Pope stated:

"In a sermon in November, 2013, Pope Francis praised Lord of the World as depicting, "the spirit of the world which leads to apostasy almost as if it were a prophecy." "
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We have many topics on religion and the Cs have given clues on the way religion has been used to influence/program us. I used to be very interested in biblical "prophecy" and the symbolism portrayed in the bible. I am not sure why the Pope likes that particular book. It really seems to paint a grim picture for Christianity in general although biblical prophecy itself tends to describe an end of final judgements. Maybe he is just noticing some parallels from the book to the events currently unfolding.

I suppose many of us would like to have a crystal ball or some tool to predict the future in an accurate manner. I think that some events may be more predictable than others. If the numerology does work to make predictions I think maybe it is questionable whether it is by Cosmic design or creature intervention.

The Cs have given predictions/prophecies but explain them to be "fluid":

Session 3 December 1994
Q: (L) I would like to know in terms of prophecy if the prophecies you gave us in the first session are
still valid and upcoming?
A: They are evolving.
Q: (L) Does that mean that they are evolving to the point that they are going to happen soon?
A: Fluid.
Q: (L) Does that mean that some of them may not happen?
A: Yes.
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Keeping Pope Francis in mind, when applicable the Cs do mention the bible such as here:

Session 23 March 1996
A: Now, for the remainder of this session, we wish to address the so called earth changes for your benefit, as you are stuck here.
Those present need to be equi... [Sound anomaly on tape begins here, on second side.] ...pped to stop buying into popular deceptions
once and for all! Reread Bramley.
Q: (L) Funny I took him off the shelf today... (V) What's Bramley about? (L) Well, hold on. Do you want me to read it right now?
A: No.
Q: (L) Ok, address the subject.
A: All such changes are caused by three things and three things only! 1) Human endeavors. 2) Cosmic objects falling upon or too near
earth. 3) Planetary orbital aberrations.
Q: (L) All right, carry on.
A: Don't believe any of the nonsense you hear from other sources. It is designed to facilitate mass programming and deception.
Q: (L) Ok, okay.
A: Just as your bible says; "You will know not the day, nor the hour." This means there is no warning. None. No clue. No prophecy.
And these events... [anomaly starts again here, briefly.] are of the "past" as well. [and ends here.]
Q: (V) What events of the past, as well?
A: Cosmic and "man made" cataclysms.
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While we may not know "the day, nor the hour" I suppose we might be able to see some trends. I think the PTB stay on track with their plans and agendas but often make unpredictable tactical moves just to throw us off.

There are other sessions where the Cs indicate the deliberate attempt to confuse issues in some biblical texts such as questions that were asked about the symbolism in the book of Revelation. Here is just one question about numbers and symbolism (it would be good to read all the questions in this session for more examples):

Session 16 October 1994
Q: (L) "And they sing a new song... No one could learn to sing that song except the 144,000 who had
been ransomed from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of the world bank and here it
says they have been ransomed from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the 144,000 have not
defiled themselves by relations with women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who follow the
Lamb wherever he goes...they have been ransomed..."
A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends
to encourage elitism and divisiveness.
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I think the numerology is often interesting but I don't put much faith in it's ability to be the best predictor of my future. If you notice many of the correlations of the dates are after the fact rather than using the numbers to give much "positive protection" to us. FWIW
 
Lapin Blanc said:
All of this is pure random coincidence, isn't it? Or is there something being built up such as a conspiracy?

You may want to check the informations above and may also find more interesting things.
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No, it is not "pure random coincidence, but what it ultimately may mean, we do not yet have the capacity to parse. I spent years playing with such thing - and that is all it is: play. It certainly informs those who have well-developed pattern recognition functions that there IS something going on at some level of reality - possibly at the transition between densities, or simply patterns of reality construction emerging from the substratum.

I would advise NOT following after those who claim to be able to derive "interpretations" from such; it's usually very subjective, silly, and mostly wrong.

Those who wish to accumulate such things and keep themselves busy may do so; frankly, there are more important activities on this planet at present in my view.
 
I did ask the Cs about things going in this direction:

17 June 1995 said:
Q: (L) I would like to ask a little bit about synchronicity. I would like to know what is the source of synchronous events. Is it a multiple source or is it something that comes out of the percipient's own mind or... (J) is it random?

A: Imagine a young school child walking along the street, standing beside a rose bush, picking one of the flowers, and asking the flower: "Would you please explain Einstein's theory of relativity to me today." Now, the analogy here is, while humorous, perhaps, is also to point out to you that we admire and appreciate the challenges that you bring to us to answer such complex questions in such a simple form, not to mention such a simple format. However, if we were to answer these accurately and adequately for you when you ask such complicated questions, it would require a session lasting approximately twenty-four of your days non-stop. Needless to say that this would render the subject rather useless and, of course, yourselves as well. So, we aren't simply not able to answer a question as complex as "What is synchronicity" as it is incredibly complex. It involves aspects in every imaginable state of reality merging together in what could best be described, if seen visually, as a massive mosaic in perfect balance. But, that is not adequate to a response for your question however, hopefully, maybe you can contemplate the visual image presented and help yourself to learn a more complete answer.

Q: (T) Several sessions back when we were discussing "Perpendicular Realities" you were talking about something that happened to me and that I had to look back over my life and analyze my relationships with other people from a certain point up until now and you said that this was a perpendicular reality. What is the definition of a perpendicular reality?

A: The perpendicular reality primarily, though not exclusively, refers to one's life path and how one's life path fits together in the cycle or in a wheel when connected with those of a similar life path. And, oddly enough, relates very closely to the previous question involving synchronicity. If you can picture an inlaid wheel formed by a circle within a circle, and adjoining partitions in a perfect balance, that would be the best representation of perpendicular reality for it does not completely involve one individual's experience, but rather a group of individual's experience for the progression of a greater purpose, if you understand what we mean. This is what we mean when we say: perpendicular reality. Picture again, a circle within a circle adjoined by equally spaced partitions in a perfect cycle. That is perpendicular reality.

Q: (T) You had us draw this symbol and put seven spokes or partitions between the two circles.

A: Correct.

Q: (T) Is seven the optimal number?

A: Seven is always the optimal number. There are seven levels of density. This reflects through all phases of reality.
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7 Oct 1997 said:
Q: Okay, the other night it was remarked that there was some
connection to all the names of Ann and Anna around me.

A: Well, the statement was made simply to reflect the
synchronicity which is always a tell-tale signal of
changes apparent and imminent. Changes which are not
necessarily to be perceived as either positive or
negative, but changes nonetheless. Here, three
individuals with whom you have had either direct or
indirect association, all with the same moniker.
....

Q: Well, I have observed that whatever we resist seems to
cause us to suffer.

A: This is true, but suffering comes in differing degrees.

Q: And, it all seems to relate to our resistance to who and
what we REALLY are and to doing things from a higher level
of direction rather than the emotional programming.

A: That is true. All is lesson, and each lesson is one more
step on the road to union with the One.

Q: I feel that my learning is at a standstill.

A: Standstills are not really of great concern as long as
they are merely rest stops on the pathway to greater
knowledge or growth. We have told you before, and others,
to watch the signposts along the way, to read the signs
and understand their meanings. If you do that, you will
be far ahead of the battle. And, "battle" is the
appropriate term, because battle is what results from
attack, attack that is resisted in a progressive and
positive manner. Therefore, one wants to be ahead of the
battle if at all possible, and the tools for that are the
signposts, and the signposts are EVERYWHERE! Intuition is
one, synchronicity is another. You have enough power,
knowledge and awareness already to recognize the
signposts. It is only the emotions that can cause them to
be clouded over. And this is only if the emotions which
are a natural state of being for 3rd density existence,
serve as a hindrance instead of an assistant. And that is
the primary lesson for now: to take those emotions, which
are perfectly natural, and employ them as assistance.
Once emotions have been used positively, progress to 4th
density STO is possible. The existence of emotions will
moderate as progression through 4th density STO occurs.
While that may not seem possible to you, or something that
you can grasp at this time, you will understand it
eventually.
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Laura said:
I did ask the Cs about things going in this direction:


A: You have enough power, knowledge and awareness already to recognize the signposts. It is only the emotions that can cause them to be clouded over. And this is only if the emotions which are a natural state of being for 3rd density existence, serve as a hindrance instead of an assistant. And that is the primary lesson for now: to take those emotions, which are perfectly natural, and employ them as assistance. Once emotions have been used positively, progress to 4th density STO is possible.
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Hi Laura,

Thank you for this timely and vital reminder.
 
Do you/anyone have examples of positive use of emotions for problem solving, awareness, etc?
 
This forum, all our writings, sott.net, exist because of the positive use of emotion. When you really understand the terror of the situation, you either close down, or open up. We choose the latter.
 
sitting said:
Laura said:
This forum, all our writings, sott.net, exist because of the positive use of emotion.
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Amen.
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Yes, and notice that it is the positive "use" of emotion, not necessarily positive emotion. Even negative emotions used positively is important I think. If you are being attacked by a psychopath and defend yourself, I think using the negative emotion by avoiding them, fighting back or getting out of Dodge is in order.
 
goyacobol said:
Yes, and notice that it is the positive "use" of emotion, not necessarily positive emotion. Even negative emotions used positively is important I think.
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Hi goyacobol,

I'm not sure about that one.

Negative emotions (if it stays that way) will yield negative actions & results. If an outcome appears positive, it's because a subtle change had occurred in the emotional state. An affirmation for good had emerged -- overriding the previous negative thought.

I believe we subconsciously choose our emotional responses -- dictated by our inner beliefs. It's vital that we clearly differentiate our frame of mind. Noting the subtle changes. And not confusing causes and effect.

FWIW.
 
sitting said:
goyacobol said:
Yes, and notice that it is the positive "use" of emotion, not necessarily positive emotion. Even negative emotions used positively is important I think.
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Hi goyacobol,

I'm not sure about that one.

Negative emotions (if it stays that way) will yield negative actions & results. If an outcome appears positive, it's because a subtle change had occurred in the emotional state. An affirmation for good had emerged -- overriding the previous negative thought.

I believe we subconsciously choose our emotional responses -- dictated by our inner beliefs. It's vital that we clearly differentiate our frame of mind. Noting the subtle changes. And not confusing causes and effect.

FWIW.
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sitting,

Well actually, I have been thinking about negative emotion since I posted that remark and how to apply it to that theory. I can't say I have the whole banana on the idea.

I was thinking of some other places where the Cs talk about "positive emotions" vs using emotions positively. I am not sure negative emotions always yield negative actions & results.

Here are some of them:

Session 26 November 1994
Q: (J) The power source has to be on for the implant to work for them to get the juice and the power is
negative thoughts and emotions. (T) But I am still a 3rd density being. I have all the emotions of a 3rd
density being, the whole gamut, and that is part of what makes me a 3rd density being. Therefore I
can't turn one emotion off without upsetting the balance of the other emotions, emotions are almost an
analogy to the light and the dark.
A: No.
Q: (T) I have positive emotions and I have negative emotions; they both make up who I am.
A: If you choose, you may have only positive emotions.
Q: (T) Now, if I have only positive emotions, which is a nice thing to have and I'd like to have that,
what does that do to the sensor equipment of the Lizzies?
A: Cancels them.
Q: (T) So they are tuned to negative frequencies?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Having positive feelings cuts off the implants. If I cut off the sensors by having positive feelings,
what will the Lizards do?
A: Go elsewhere.
Q: (L) Am I correct in my thought that when you first start turning this off that they may increase their
efforts for a period and then finally they realize that you are really in charge here and then they go
away?
A: Exactly.
Q: (L) So, when you first get a clue and you start getting a grip on your emotions and dealing with
everything that happens to you with acceptance and knowledge that all is a manifestation of your own
creation and for your ultimate good, for a period of time they may try ten times harder to get you back
as a food source, but then once they realize they can't, then they do finally let loose?
A: You and Frank are experiencing this right now.
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The above session is still when Frank may have influenced the outcome so I am not sure if only positive emotions is possible.

Laura expands on emotions very thoroughly in chapter 69 of the Wave. The whole chapter is amazingly brilliant I think. But to save a little space I will choose this one excerpt:

The Wave Chapter 69/ The Whirlpool of Charybdis, the Sirens and the Navigator | Cassiopaea
What seems to happen when yogis and fakirs learn to control their perception of pain is that they are able to gain access to this area of the brain with conscious intent and to reset the pain threshold. That is to say: reframed by conscious expectations and subconscious beliefs, pain can be abolished by being interpreted as either a neutral experience or even pleasant.

And this is our Ace in the hole. We can make ourselves unavailable as food; we can change our systemic responses so that the Matrix unplugs us and dumps us out of the system just like Neo was unceremoniously plucked from his pod when he “woke up.”

But, more importantly: we can train ourselves to not blink. With knowledge and awareness of what is, and what might be, we can never be confronted with a situation, either in the body or out, that will cause us to fall into a negative state.

It seems from all the studies that are done that an elevated mood – one of happy expectation of the possibility of adventure – is the greatest protection against illness. Perhaps it is also the one that makes one inedible to the Matrix?

In 1990, scientist Howard Hall demonstrated that the immune system could be controlled. He instructed his subjects in cyber-physiologic strategies. The word cyber comes from the Greek kybernetes (kubernetes), which means to steer or the navigator. It is interesting that one of the names for the goddess Isis is “the navigator.” And the process of unveiling Isis is that of acquiring knowledge.

In the 1940s, psychologist and psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich proposed that cancer is a result of the failure to express emotions, especially sexual emotions. Reich was not only ridiculed by the scientific community, he was persecuted in the most reprehensible way. One of the most shameful acts of the United States government was when they called for all copies of Reich’s life’s work to be rounded up by the FDA and incinerated. An official book burning in the land of the free! I rather suspect that Reich was onto something.

Another study showed that cancer patients who failed to release their anger had slower recovery rates. Another trait common to cancer victims was self-denial; this amounts to unawareness of their own, basic, emotional needs. It seems that emotions that are generated or suppressed due to lack of knowledge can be deadly. Since emotional expression is always tied to a specific flow of peptides in the body, the constant generation and suppression of emotions results in massive disturbances of the psychosomatic network. Many psychologists have said that depression is really suppressed anger or even anger redirected against the self.

Identifying, releasing and expressing emotion that has been suppressed is a significant step in the direction of taking charge of your ship and learning to navigate it. But at the same time it is essential to learn to transform emotions.

In the East, part of the training of many paths of yogic wisdom includes meditating in graveyards. Now, a graveyard in the East is quite different from a graveyard in the West. In the East, it is the custom to expose the bodies to the elements so that they will be devoured by birds and other predators. To meditate in such a place is to be confronted by physical horrors that Westerners may find difficult to contemplate. At the same time, there is the superstitious fear of specters and demons that the meditator must deal with. In Tantra yoga, one practice is to make love in a graveyard.

In both cases, the object is to train the consciousness to achieve higher states of mind in the face of the cold, hard facts of life in the material world; to gain mastery over the physical, programmed emotions; to become the navigator.

It is in this sense that the Cassiopaeans teach us that knowledge protects. To have a full field of awareness is to be in control of your ship no matter what may erupt into your life. Information is the bridge between consciousness and matter and without this bridge, matter and its programs – the Predator’s mind – will dominate. The body-mind of the Predator is like the whirlpool of Charybdis and the temptation of the Sirens of ancient myth put together. Like Ulysses, we must lash ourselves to the mast of our ship, stuff the ears of our rowers with wax, and call upon knowledge (nymphs) to help guide us through the dangers.

Information transcends time and space. It is, as Gregory Bateson has said, “the difference that makes a difference.” Consciousness exists prior to the physical realm which is, literally, an out-picturing of consciousness. Denying the realities of the real world – denying the reality of the naturalness of the existence of darkness, is the same as being manipulated to have negative emotions while, at the same time being taught to suppress them. It will still exist and it will back up in your system and become the chief part of your reality because, like blocked emotions, it cannot be released so that positive emotions can take its place.

Now please note: I am not saying that we are to have, express, or embrace negative emotions; just as I have never said, nor have the Cassiopaeans ever said that we are to “embrace the darkness.” Those who want to assure themselves of this fact need to go back and reread “Stripped to the Bone” in Wave 3 while making sure that their manipulated emotional beliefs are set aside. That whole chapter is about the fact that we must choose an orientation that includes seeing the darkness and giving it the free will right to exist, since it is the free will choice of darkness to be darkness. However, to graduate to STO 4D, one must increase their STO polarization by choosing to divest themselves of darkness, even while allowing others the choice to embrace it.

And, in the same way, we must find appropriate ways to divest ourselves of the manipulated negative emotions that are backed up in our systems, as in practicing Éiriú Eolas, and learn how to use our reason and will to make sure that we only have positive emotions.

With an increase of information, the navigator steers the ship by constantly adjusting the tiller in response to the information. Constant feedback is required for the navigator to do the job and that is why knowledge must be combined with self-monitoring so as to have a more intelligent grasp of what is happening in your physical system and in its relation to the reality that you are experiencing. The faster and tighter the feedback loop, the more intelligence is available to your system. The body itself is a metaphor of your unconscious state. As more of it becomes conscious, there are fewer and fewer unexpected elements cropping up in your life. The body is a battlefield for the wargames of the mind. And these games are, very likely, planned and executed from higher densities. As above, so below. To think otherwise is to suffer the stress of separation from our source, to experience lack of unity. And what is it that flows between us all, linking and communicating, coordinating and integrating all of the cosmos?

Knowledge.

Just as neuropeptides flow among the cells of the body, causing all the receptors to vibrate in response to information, so does knowledge act on our consciousness the way the strings of a resting violin will vibrate when another violin is played. Knowledge produces resonance among different people who are unique, but unified in their diversity. With knowledge we can truly feel what others feel – not just assume that they feel what we feel. The oneness of life is based on the simple fact that with knowledge, we are all vibrating together.

Knowledge protects.
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In the above excerpt "pain" is mentioned. I usually think of "pain" as something that produces a negative emotion.

I suppose I need to give some examples of what I mean by the "positive use of emotions" even negative ones or what it means to me. Another emotion that is usually considered as negative is "anger" but the Cs mention an interesting idea of a certain kind of anger called "righteous anger" here:

Q: (L) That's what the caterpillars eat to make silk. (J) So _____ should take Mulberry extract? (laughter) (_____) And Then I
can start making silk? (L) If you start doing weird things, I'm outta here! (laughter) (_____) What can I do to mentally block?
A: Right now you need help as you are ... weak. But the general principle can be understood from the term "righteous anger." If
you think about the expression that the fate of the universe may depend on you it should make you angry.
Q: (L) That wasn't very clear, was it? (A****) That expression?
A: No. The fate of the universe can be altered negatively and many will suffer if you are out of the picture. That is what "they"
want.
Q: (D) So your first priority has to be to stay healthy and make sure you take care of yourself. (S) We need to get you a
superhero outfit. (_____) Made of silk! (laughter)
A: Each of you here tonight have a specific role to play in the coming cosmic drama. Best to always keep that in mind.
Q: (A****) Can I ask a question? (L) Yes, dear. (A****) What would be a good way to calm my anxiety?
A: Carefully avoid foods that play havoc with your system and remember that all which affects those with whom you are
genetically connected can affect you also.
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These two negative emotion examples (pain and anger) are ones I have thought about but I suppose there are others that could be added. I am struggling to win these "wargames of the mind" and I think we are all kind of in this together. I certainly don't have all the answers yet but with continued input from the forum I hope to find more answers.

Thanks for making me think more about it. :)
 
There are two ways to look at so-called "negative emotions" and Mouravieff discusses this a bit as well: the positive use of the arousing of the negative half of the emotional center.

You can have anger aroused in you, and you can use it positively because you are aware and in control and you know that it is a reaction of a "warning system" that exists within you naturally.

Or, you can have anger aroused in you and you can pass on the negativity by acting without awareness or control and by thinking that this reaction is how you "really feel" emotionally speaking.

Sitting's point is very close:

Negative emotions (if it stays that way) will yield negative actions & results. If an outcome appears positive, it's because a subtle change had occurred in the emotional state. An affirmation for good had emerged -- overriding the previous negative thought.
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Laura said:
There are two ways to look at so-called "negative emotions" and Mouravieff discusses this a bit as well: the positive use of the arousing of the negative half of the emotional center.

You can have anger aroused in you, and you can use it positively because you are aware and in control and you know that it is a reaction of a "warning system" that exists within you naturally.

Or, you can have anger aroused in you and you can pass on the negativity by acting without awareness or control and by thinking that this reaction is how you "really feel" emotionally speaking.

Sitting's point is very close:

Negative emotions (if it stays that way) will yield negative actions & results. If an outcome appears positive, it's because a subtle change had occurred in the emotional state. An affirmation for good had emerged -- overriding the previous negative thought.
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Thank you Laura. The "warning system" seems to be a function of pain and anger. If we can then turn our emotions around and find a positive solution that produces a positive emotion. Of course that is really not so easy for me so I need to really work on that. I think seeing the Putin vs Obama wargame playing out is sending an alarm bell to my system. But we do at least have a chance to see and choose what is positive and negative in a real-time situation. After all as the Cs say "change will come".
 
When you speak about the pain he can be also physical how I told it on the subject "healing by the spirit" ?
 
Interesting that this appellation of "righteous anger".

For my part, I have always the idea that anger is not really an emotion but a detonator movement. The opening that would move from one emotion to another. It would be like a car gearbox. Anger would go in low and high emotions or the opposite, and move into negative emotions to positive or vice versa.
It seems to me that anger is the result or the power that triggered the passage of an emotional change, whether positive or negative.

Thus this "righteous anger" could be beneficial that we move from hatred to love, or jealousy to trust. It would seem that anger is the source of all emotions, positive and negative.
 
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