Science > Political Ponerology: Macrosocial Evil
Israel official: Strike on Iran possible
anart:
--- Quote from: Gonzo on December 11, 2011, 10:38:39 PM ---As often happens on this forum, a person might respond to a post, speaking specifically to the subject at hand. However, if appropriate, someone with insight might notice something in the respondent's words with respect to their programs or illusions that is worthy of pointing out. Upon reading the comments, the respondent misses the deeper message and deals with the superficial context - the original topic of discussion, not realizing (or willfully ignoring), for whatever reason, that the topic has temporarily changed away from the original subject to the new subject: whatever the insightful person recognized.
This, I believe, is what is happening with you transientP. You seem to keep coming back to the original subject and the substance of your post and cannot let go of it enough to shift the paradigm and see the discussion is about you (or one of your programs) and not necessarily the subject of war, minutiae or the right use of energy. Is has become apples and oranges.
This is why you seem to feel an argument is forming when, in fact, effort is being made to have you shift the paradigm away from the apples and over to the oranges.
If you go back to the beginning, you will see the shift was away from the topic to your suggesting t bngenoh's energy might better be directed away from the minutiae and toward the work. Anart commented that bngenoh was merely paying attention to the reality around us, as SotT was also doing.
If you hadn't reacted at that point, you would have been able to receive the information. Instead, your predator or wounded ego created several dance steps to fool you into a thought loop to avoid dealing with anart's comment.
Everything that came after was in response to the dance steps you laid out and efforts of others to steer you back.
At least that's how I see it.
Had you allowed yourself to feel the heat and delved further, you might have benefited greatly from the momentum. However, things have cooled down so it might be that the best you can get from this is an understanding of how to take advantage of the next opportunity when it arises, if you are able.
I hope this makes some sense. I don't feel proficient in explaining it, but I've seen it happen enough, even with me in the hot seat, that I appreciate these opportunities when they arise.
Gonzo
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That sums it up. So, it might be worth your time, transientP to re-read your posts this thread as if someone else wrote them - and see if you can see what others see. If you can, then you'll gain insight you seem to be currently missing. If you can't, then, I'm sure other opportunities will arise.
Guardian:
--- Quote from: anart on December 12, 2011, 02:59:02 AM --- If you can't, then, I'm sure other opportunities will arise.
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:rotfl: :rotfl:
transientP:
ok.
thanks everyone.
cholas:
--- Quote from: Gonzo ---I hope this makes some sense. I don't feel proficient in explaining it, ...
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I disagree. ;D
Very well said, Gonzo.
bngenoh:
Looks like it is starting in earnest, if these developments are true:
--- Quote ---According to first-hand accounts and reports provided to Boiling Frogs Post by several sources in Jordan, during the last few hours foreign military groups, estimated at hundreds of individuals, began to spread near the villages of the north-Jordan city of “Al-Mafraq”, which is adjacent to the Jordanian and Syrian border.
According to one Jordanian military officer who asked to remain anonymous, hundreds of soldiers who speak languages other than Arabic were seen during the past two days in those areas moving back and forth in military vehicles between the King Hussein Air Base of al-Mafraq (10 km from the Syrian border), and the vicinity of Jordanian villages adjacent to the Syrian border, such as village Albaej (5 km from the border), the area around the dam of Sarhan, the villages of Zubaydiah and al-Nahdah adjacent to the Syrian border.
Another report received from our source in Amman identified an additional US-NATO Command Center in “al-Houshah,’ a village near Mafraq.
Our Iraqi journalist source in London provided us with the following related information:
--- Quote ---“Some of the US forces that left the Ain al-Assad Air base in Iraq last Thursday, did not come back to the USA or its base in Germany, but were transferred to Jordan during the evening hours.”
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The above information was further corroborated by our correspondent and advisor Nizar Nayouf who interviewed an employee in the London-based office of Royal Jordanian Airlines:
--- Quote ---“At least one US aircraft carrying military personnel landed in the Prince Hassan Air base located about 100 km to the east of the city of Al-Mafraq.”
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Nizar Nayouf, BFP advisor and correspondent on Syria in London, had the following statement on Al-Mafraq:
--- Quote ---“The al-Mafraq air base, which now includes Air Force Academy, was a starting point for “conspiratorial activities” by Jordan, The UK and Israel against Syria in the past, particularly in the 1960s. In September 1968, a Syrian commando Major, Salim Hatoom, who fled to Jordan with a number of officers after a failed coup attempt, established a camp from which he started a rebel military against the then left-wing government of Syria under president Nureddin al-Atassi and Salah Jadid. By the end of 1970s and early 1980s, the Syrian Islamic Brotherhood and their military wing “At-Taleeah al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah” (the Islamic Militant Vanguard) used the same base for its military struggle against president Hafez a-Assad regime, in which they were being trained by the Jordanian and Israeli intelligence agents, and cars were being bombed before they were sent to the streets of Syrian cities for the killing of innocents and undermining state facilities.”
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Mr. Nayouf went on to emphasize the irony of the situation:
--- Quote ---“I guess history repeats itself but as farce…Last spring, that tens of Syrian soldiers, who fled to Jordan, were transferred to a camp west of the Jordanian city of “Salt”, in which officers from Israeli military intelligence (AMAN) began the investigation with them under the supervision of the Jordanian military intelligence. This was to extract information from them on issues related to the development of the Syrian army, weapons and training, especially after 2006.”
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Source: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/12/11/bfp-exclusive-developing-story-hundreds-of-us-nato-soldiers-arrive-begin-operations-on-the-jordan-syria-border/#respond
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1h1bUfCVc&feature=player_embedded
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