DPR denies “Doctors without borders” accreditation because of espionage

Jeremy F Kreuz

Dagobah Resident
After Kunduz; the organization gets targeted by the DNR in Eastern Ukraine; seems there is less and less space for doctors to treat the sick and wounded: independent and neutral action is becoming impossible

http://dninews.com/article/dpr-denies-%E2%80%9Cdoctors-without-borders%E2%80%9D-accreditation-because-espionage-and


The humanitarian committee of the Donetsk People’s Republic denied the accreditation of “Doctors without borders” (“Medecins sans frontieres”) because of the representatives’ participation in defense data collection and illegal supply of psychopharmaceuticals to the country.

«The DPR’s Ministry of State Security found out the suspicious activity from the “MSF” which includes the collection of the defense data and conducting of harmful psychological trainings for the local citizens on the frontline», — the representative of the committee said.

Moreover the fact of psychopharmaceuticals’ illegal supply was found out.

The decision for the cancellation of the “Doctors without borders” accreditation had all the necessary foundations and “MSF’s” claims about prejudices against them from the Republic’s side are not consistent with reality.
 
Re: DPR denies “Doctors without borders” accreditation because of espionage and psyc

Of course...
I can't say I'm surprised.

Although, I want to see that Data they claim they have.

It's just shocking that the real people in the pharmaceutical, and medical industry who should be targeted are not
but, a humanitarian organization is? :huh:


Thanks for posting this Jeremy F Kreuz.
 
Re: DPR denies “Doctors without borders” accreditation because of espionage and psyc

Sputnik news MSF Refutes Donetsk Allegations, Including Espionage

So withdrawal of permission to work was announced on monday 19 of october
MSF talks about it on friday saying they got no explanation for why they were refused to work
this seems to indicate MSF has been trying the whole week to get either explanation or find a solution
then on Sunday; DNR comes out with the accusations:

The international health charity Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) has refuted all the accusations, including espionage, cited as reasons for the withdrawal of the organization’s accreditation for working in east Ukraine’s Donetsk region, an MSF press officer told Sputnik on Monday.

In this Friday, Oct. 16, 2015 photo, an employee of Doctors Without Borders walks inside the charred remains of their hospital after it was hit by a U.S. airstrike in Kunduz, Afghanistan.
© AP Photo/ Najim Rahim
'It Wasn't a Mistake': MSF Chief Slams US Bombing of Afghan Hospital
MOSCOW (Sputnik), Daria Chernyshova — MSF said on Friday that it received a written notification on October 19, in which the Donetsk authorities informed the organization that its accreditation in the self-proclaimed people’s republic had been withdrawn. MSF was not initially provided with a reason for the decision, it said.

In a statement on Sunday, quoted by a local news agency, the Donetsk health authority said that MSF had been accused of espionage and smuggling "psychotropic medications" into the war-hit region.

"We refute all the false accusations against us… we also refute espionage," Delphine Van Durme said.

She clarified that the organization denied the allegations made by the self-proclaimed DPR authorities in the media regarding its medical-humanitarian activities as they include "erroneous statements regarding mismanagement of pharmaceutical products such as psychotropic drugs and criticism of the organisation's mental health program."

The organization underlines that for the last 18 months, MSF has been working hard to provide free, life-saving medical care to people affected by the conflict on both sides of the front line.

"All MSF activities, including the transportation, storage and distribution of medicines and our mental health activities have at all times been carried out in cooperation and coordinated with the authorities in DPR, " the MSF press officer said.

At the same time, the MSF made a formal request to the authorities of the DPR to review their decision to withdraw an accreditation from the aid organization.

"MSF indeed asked the DPR authorities to reconsider their decision to withdraw the accreditation," Delphine Van Durme said.

MSF notes that the decision to cancel their accreditation and halt medical activities will deprive thousands of people of life-saving medical assistance.

"This decision will have life-threatening consequences for the patients MSF is now leaving behind," the organization stressed.

According to the MSF, since the beginning of the conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014, it has donated medication and material to 170 medical facilities in the country. Since March 2015, the aid organization conducted over 85,000 medical consultations of local residents in coordination with local health care authorities.

The Donetsk News Agency said on Sunday that the regional agency, which oversaw the accreditation of health organizations, became suspicious of MSF after psychotropic drugs were found at the charity’s warehouses in the neighboring Luhansk region.

Donetsk authorities also accused the French-based aid group of gathering intelligence on the region’s defenses, as well as allegedly running psychological training programs for residents on the frontlines that, they said, were focused on "disorienting" people.
 
Re: DPR denies “Doctors without borders” accreditation because of espionage and psyc

Yes I recall reading that the MSF officially requested the DPR's authorities to revise the decision on deprivation of accreditation. The accusations are really out there, and the DPR isn't really showing the 'proof' for it either.

There's not an actual investigation going either, usually protocols require an investigation before implementing 'sanctions,' but that's obviously not the case here.

As the organization said themselves, "This decision will have life-threatening consequences for the patients MSF is now leaving behind," and I'm pretty sure the DPR is not going to do anything about that.
 
Re: DPR denies “Doctors without borders” accreditation because of espionage and psyc

There's just so many double standards when it's convenient.
 
Jeremy F Kreuz said:
After Kunduz; the organization gets targeted by the DNR in Eastern Ukraine; seems there is less and less space for doctors to treat the sick and wounded: independent and neutral action is becoming impossible

http://dninews.com/article/dpr-denies-%E2%80%9Cdoctors-without-borders%E2%80%9D-accreditation-because-espionage-and

Do you seriously believe that this US-sponsored organisation was there to help people? I heard many accusations from DNR of this organisation, as well as OSCE, doing espionage and smuggling drugs in the last months. The last one is of today: http://dnr-news.com/dnr/26735-vlasti-lnr-poprosili-dvuh-chlenov-obse-pokinut-territoriyu-respubliki.html (in Russian): 2 members of OSCE were asked to leave LNR due to violation of Minsk agreements. There are enough doctors in Eastern Ukraine.
 
Altair

Do you seriously believe that this US-sponsored organisation was there to help people?

MSF is not a US sponsored organization, it is a people sponsered organization: Specifically in Ukraine they are refusing all government money to avoid these kind of allegations:

There intention to help people is genuine, the kind of help they are providing might be wrong (like the kind of drugs provided) but the intention is genuine

I heard many accusations from DNR of this organisation,

True but have those who accused MSF also provided the data to back these accusations. If they are accused of spying; which is a serious state threat, why are they not arrested. According to my informations no arrest has taken place and the MSF teams are still allowed to move around freely. This is in sharp contrast with the way IRC (an US sponsored organization) was arrested in DNR. Those people were raided by the State security, detained, interrogated and put on a special transport to be removed from the territory.

as well as OSCE, doing espionage and smuggling drugs in the last months.

OSCE is there with a political mandate, which cannot be compared with a humanitarian one. OSCE is not handling any medicsation; so accusing them of smuggling drugs is rather akward.

MSF has indeed been accused of many things in the last months; yet until a week ago they were allowed to work in DNR. Strange to allow this when they are doing criminal activities. In LNR they were accused of importing illegally psychoptropic drugs but have never been officially accused of it. State security and prosecutor never said a word. It was all over the media and very publicly but never a official body of the government that is mandated to accuse and prosecute has intervened. As in the LNR it seems more likely that one or more individuals who have an interest in nothing having MSF around are using politics and propagande to remove them.

2 members of OSCE were asked to leave LNR due to violation of Minsk agreements.

seems to be individual cases. This can always occur and is different then accusing a full organization.

There are enough doctors in Eastern Ukraine.
But do they have enough medicine to treat their patients. MSF is stating that they provide 70 plus per cent of all insuline (for diabetes) and 90 per cent of all products for haemodialysis (kidney failure) They are not stating there is a shortage of doctors:

MSF is certainly not perfect and if there a data to prove what they are accused of I will review my analysis. For the moment though I think they are falsely accused.

The error that can be made is to compare DNR and LNR with the RF. Until recently DNR and LNR were part of Ukraine since the 1990s a very corrupt state: Putin cleaned up the RF; Urkaine was never cleaned up. So now to assume that DNR and LNR are like RF is in my opinion wrong: It will take years to clean it up; just like in the RF the cleaning is still continuing.
 
I think it's quite interesting that Doctors without Borders are now being accused by the DPR of "collection of the defense data and conducting of harmful psychological trainings for the local citizens on the frontline". As we all remember, in early October the US "accidentally" bombed a Doctors without Borders' hospital in Kunduz:

angelburst29 said:
Significant elements of the Distributed Common Ground System, a network of computers and sensors designed to knit together disparate strands of intelligence, were off line in Afghanistan when U.S. commanders approved an air strike Oct. 3 that killed 22 staff, patients and others at a Doctors without Borders hospital in Kunduz, wrote Hunter, a California Republican, combat veteran and armed services committee member who has been a persistent DCGS critic.

Was it a "message" from the PTBs to Doctors without Borders to "duly fulfill their mission in DPR"?
 
article posted on Novorussia today

http://novorossia.today/tag/msf/

MSF is shocked and strongly refutes the false allegations made by the DPR authorities in the media regarding its medical-humanitarian activities. This includes erroneous statements regarding mismanagement of pharmaceutical products such as psychotropic drugs and criticism of the organisation’s mental health program. For the last 18 months, MSF has been working hard to provide free, life-saving medical care to people affected by the conflict on both sides of the front line. All MSF activities, including the transportation, storage and distribution of medicines and our mental health activities have at all times been carried out in cooperation and coordinated with the authorities in DPR.

While MSF received official notification of the withdrawal of its accreditation to work in DPR on 19 October, at no time have we been given formal clarification of the reasons behind the decision to halt our activities. We are extremely concerned by the decision to cancel our accreditation and halt medical activities, which will deprive thousands of people of life-saving medical assistance. This decision will have life-threatening consequences for the patients MSF is now leaving behind.

On psychotropic drugs:
In line with medical protocols, psychotropic medications are an essential component of medical kits provided by MSF to health facilities where doctors treat war-wounded, patients with chronic conditions such as epilepsy, and people with mental illnesses. The psychotropic medications were donated to the public health system where the patients could get it from their regular doctor. Each medical kit contains all the necessary supplies to appropriately treat patients and are distributed based on requests of the health facilities. All donations of medicines and medical supplies are coordinated with, and reported to, the health authorities.

On mental health
The provision of psychological care is a key component of MSF’s activities in many conflict zones. MSF was running a mental health program in DPR until July 2015, when it was asked to stop by the authorities. MSF strongly disagreed with this decision by the Humanitarian Committee as mental health counselling is a crucial part of medical activities to help people deal with the consequences of conflict.
Before this interdiction, MSF had been counselling people about emotional reactions following traumatic events, and teaching them practical tools to help cope with fear, anxiety, and nightmares. In addition, MSF psychologists were training local medical and mental health staff to improve their skills and avoid burnout. In DPR, MSF had conducted more than 3.400 mental health sessions including individual counseling, group counseling sessions and trainings in more than 35 locations.

More info on MSF activities in DPR
Since the beginning of the conflict in May 2014, MSF has donated medication and material to 170 medical facilities to treat war-wounded and patients with chronic diseases. MSF has also conducted more than 85,000 consultations together with the local healthcare authorities through 40 mobile clinics since March 2015, providing healthcare to people living in places from where doctors and nurses have fled or where pharmacies are empty. We are almost the only organisation providing treatment for tuberculosis in prisons, insulin for diabetic patients and haemodialysis products to treat kidney failure. With the termination of our activities from one day to the next, thousands of patients suffering from chronic potentially fatal diseases will be now left with little or no assistance.

MSF is currently providing 77 percent of the insulin needed for patients aged over 18 with diabetes in the area under DPR control. Teams also supply 90 percent of the products necessary to conduct haemodialysis treatment, vital for patients suffering from kidney failure. Without the steady supply of these life-saving treatments, severe health complications can occur. There are very few back-up options for these people now that MSF has stopped its activities.
 
I guess it's an official statement from MSF? So all these stats are directly from MSF.

By the way, LNP prohibited MSF and other 9 foreign humanitarian organisations a month ago. The reason is the same: they found stark psychotropic drugs (illegal in Russia) of unknown origin in their office. The only foreign humanitarian organisation which is allowed in LNR now is Red Cross.

Sources (sorry, only in Russian):
_http://vz.ru/news/2015/9/25/768736.html
_http://vz.ru/news/2015/9/21/768057.html

One of the prohibited organisations is "People in Need": _http://www.demas.cz/en/members-of-demas/people-in-need

The question is: If MSF provide free of charge tons of medicaments for DNR/LNR along with other services, why anybody would want to prohibit them?
 
I guess it's an official statement from MSF? So all these stats are directly from MSF.

Yes these are the official stats which are shared and approved by the Ministery of health of DNR. For the figures for Insulin and Heamodialysis these are the percentages based on the total needs provided again by the Ministery of health which are presented to the different organizations and then the different organizations commit to provide a certain amount: 70 per cent up till now by MSF

By the way, LNP prohibited MSF and other 9 foreign humanitarian organisations a month ago. The reason is the same: they found stark psychotropic drugs (illegal in Russia) of unknown origin in their office.

If that was really the case would there not be a official accusation by the state prosecutor. Which other state just states in the media that some organisation violate the laws (and grave accusations not just a minor offense). Which other country would not arrest such people. Where are the lab results.

The only foreign humanitarian organisation which is allowed in LNR now is Red Cross.

In the meantine UN has received accreditation to work in LNR

The question is: If MSF provide free of charge tons of medicaments for DNR/LNR along with other services, why anybody would want to prohibit them?

the million dollar question. Because they are for free and so somebody is not making money in the pharmaceutical business. Somebody is loosing his share. Who has the monopoly in the imporation; distribution and sale of drugs in LNR. The rumor in LNR is the wife of the president.
 
They don't need to do lab tests. If you find psychotropic drugs which are illegal both in Ukraine and Russia, some of them with passed expiry date, which are provided for the population, it will certainly raise some questions.

Well, I dunno, what to think of it but something is definitely fishy here. Here is an interesting video about it (in Russian):

 
Altair said:
They don't need to do lab tests. If you find psychotropic drugs which are illegal both in Ukraine and Russia, some of them with passed expiry date, which are provided for the population, it will certainly raise some questions.

Well, I dunno, what to think of it but something is definitely fishy here. Here is an interesting video about it (in Russian):

Well, here are some thoughts on the issue, especially after knowing how things really work in many cases with storing "psychotropic drugs" and other "group A" drugs. I am talking about drugs for veterinary use, but I presume that it is similar in human medicine too, if not more strict.

In any case, it's true that there are specific rules and regulations about the storage of "group A" drugs. They should be locked, separated from the rest and also a strict registration of all the amount should be maintained. In reality, for example on the farms and even clinics, many such drugs are being stored together with others, and in many cases anyone who works on the farm or a clinic could get access to it if they knew where to look. Not saying that it is good, but just saying that it is a reality in many places. So it isn't surprising that something like this would happen there as well.

But it IS a good reason and excuse to interfere in someone's operation and cause trouble.

What IS suspicious, in my opinion, that those drugs were hidden under vitamins. It means that they either:

1)had good intentions and knew that the drugs would be confiscated and would never reach people that need them, or
2)it was supposed to be a contraband. Someone planned to make a lot of money.
3)something even more nefarious is going on and better check the drugs if something wasn't added. fwiw.
 
They don't need to do lab tests. If you find psychotropic drugs which are illegal both in Ukraine and Russia, some of them with passed expiry date, which are provided for the population, it will certainly raise some questions.

Well, I dunno, what to think of it but something is definitely fishy here. Here is an interesting video about it (in Russian):

Do they show the so called psychotropics in the video. The only visisble one is Aminazin. This is a antipsychotic and not a psychotropic.

https://pharmacycode.com/Aminazin.html

As far as I can see you can buy it on line http://www.rxpharmacy.md/anxiety/aminazin.html

They found drugs from France; then why are all the boxes of drugs labelled in cyrillic. Do they show the expiry dates. And if they found similar problems in the warehouse of ICRC why is this organization allowed to continue.

This video seems part of the smear campaign to justify a expulsion and confiscation of the warehouse. Mr Nikitin in the interview was the driving force behind the operation.
 
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