GOLD IS ASSIOCIATED WITH FIREBIRD and mythical
Gold has the direct relation to the God, the Virgin, angels and sacred. In spellings St. Jury locks cattle with ‘gold locks and keys ‘, the Virgin covers people with gold cloth, has gold keys and a cross; on mountain there is a gold monastery where Michael-archangel or the Virgin sit in a gold armchair or on a gold throne, St. Jury imposes a gold saddle on a horse, and St. Nicolas blows in a gold pipe. In Slavic fairy tales Hero chases a flock of fiery golden FireBirds and succeds in holding at least one of its feathers
A Snake, bringing money, gold and which spills itself into golden sparks is one of the most popular characters of slavic mythology. Gold is the main attribute and sometimes both a metaphor of Snake and snakes in general (Snake the Tzar with golden horns, golden head and golden ring;
Snake with golden wings hidden below its arms (Bulgarian mythology); Snake living in golden Palace; Snake which leaves the underworld and appears on the surface of Earth and holding a magic golden stone in creature’s beak (everyone who obtains that stone can fulfil any his wish and desire).
Gold is the attribute of the other realm, other world, everything, that pertains to that other realm, animals, birds, plants – everything is made out of gold.
In fairy tales about Firebird one more component is constantly mentioned – golden apples.
Usually, a hero has to retrieve the golden apples hidden or stolen by a Snake, Firebird, Dragon or a monster. In several non-English languages, the word for ‘orange’ is derived from the phrase ‘golden apple.’
Three golden apples were featured in Greek mythology, in which a hunter named Atalanta raced against a suitor named Hippomenes who used the golden apples to distract her so that he could win the race.
After Atalanta participated in the hunt and received the pelt, her father claimed her as his offspring and wanted her to get married. Although a very beautiful maiden, Atalanta did not particularly want to marry after an oracle told her that she will gain bad luck if she marries. In order to get her a husband, her father made a deal with Atalanta that she would marry anybody who could beat her in a foot race. Atalanta happily agreed, as she could run extremely fast. She outran many suitors. The one that finally became her husband accomplished this through brains, not speed. Hippomenes (also known as Melanion) knew that he could not win a fair race with Atalanta, so he prayed to Aphrodite for help. The goddess gave him three golden apples and told him to drop them one at a time to distract Atalanta. Sure enough, she quit running long enough to retrieve each golden apple. It took all three apples and all of his speed, but Hippomenes finally succeeded, winning the race and Atalanta's hand. Unfortunatley, Hippomenes forgot to thank the Goddess and she turned them into lions"
Q: (M) He says: I've had three experiences with aliens, who kindly provided me with silicone beads of some kind. Were these physical abductions or just projections?
A: One begets the other. A projection involves Tran dimensional atomic remolecularization.
Q: (M) When and where was the last experience?
A: April and in sleep state. There is a window which overlooks sloping meadow. Fruit trees, possibly apple, nearby.
Q: (L) Why did you bring up this window and this meadow and fruit trees? Is this the window through which this occurred?
A: Let it play out.
Q: (M) Will the silicone beads show up in an x-ray?
A: No.
Q: (M) In the dream about the 'communication device,' was that a memory of a previous experience, or was it an actual experience that happened that night?
A: Reflection.
Q: (M) With respect to RV and chemical/magnetic alignments improving psychic abilities, can this be artificially induced by locally applied magnetic fields?
A: Dangerous to experiment with. Like Franklin and his kites.
A: Yes. Now: All three of you are uniquely oriented toward generating unearned income at a meteoric level.
Q: (L) Is this something that requires an interaction between the three of us, or is it individual?
A: Are three gold bars worth more than one? Laura! Turn over stones, sell apples, do whatever you have to do to get your computer refitted to accommodate the Internet, including the online market system, as soon as absolutely possible!!!!!!
Q: (L) Well, I am not really in a position to spend that money right now! And what do you mean to 'turn over stones and sell apples?'
A: Figures of speech! Do what you have to do... take care of the mechanics, my Dear, the rest will fall into place...
The Garden of the Hesperides
Hercules stealing the apples from the Hesperides
The Garden of the Hesperides was Hera's orchard in the west, where either a single tree or a grove of immortality-giving golden apples grew. Hera placed in the garden a never-sleeping, hundred-headed, dragon, named Ladon, as an additional safeguard. The eleventh Labor of Hercules was to steal the apples from the garden.
The Judgment of Paris
Zeus held a banquet in celebration of the marriage of Peleus and Thetis. Left off the guest list was Eris (goddess of discord), and upon turning up uninvited she threw or rolled a golden apple into the ceremony, with the inscription which said: καλλίστῃ or, "for the fairest one".
Three goddesses claimed the apple: Hera, Athena and Aphrodite. Zeus decided that Paris of Troy would judge their cases. Each of the goddesses offered Paris a gift. Hera would give him power, Athena would make him wise, and Aphrodite offered him the love of the world's most beautiful woman, Helen. Paris chose Aphrodite, and Helen's leaving of her previous husband precipitated the Trojan War.
Norse mythology
Freia, from Das Rheingold, with the tree of golden apples
In Norse mythology, golden apples grant immortal life to the gods. They are cultivated by the Goddess Iðunn.
One day, Loki, Odin and Thor go on a camping trip. An eagle (a giant in disguise) takes Loki and makes him promise to hand over Idun so that he might wed her and also have eternal youth. Loki agrees and takes Idun to him. The gods don't miss the apples at first but then start to demand where Idun and her apples went. Loki confesses and agrees to get her back under pain of death. He succeeds after a risky flight, and the gods rejoice that they have the apples back.
Golden apples are an important element in Richard Wagner's opera Das Rheingold, prelude of the tetralogy Der Ring des Nibelungen. After building the Walhall for the gods, the giants Fafner and Fasolt asked Wotan to give them Freia, the goddess who cultivates golden apples, as Wotan promised them. When the giants took Freia away, the gods suddenly became old and weak.
It convinced Wotan to go to Nibelheim with Loge in order to steal the ring from Alberich, thus getting a substitute for Freia that would please the giants. Golden apples are associated with a leitmotif. It is first sung by Fafner, when he explains to his brother Fasolt why they must take Freia away from the gods.
Russian tale
Tsarevitch Ivan, the Fire Bird and the Gray Wolf,
german
The Golden Bird of brothers Grimm
The Golden Mermaid
The Bold Knight, the Apples of Youth, and the Water of Life
The Nine Peahens and the Golden Apples
Bulgarian Prâslea the Brave and the Golden Apples,
Romanian, where the thief is not a bird but a Snake
FAiry tales share the same motive that
A king's apple tree bore golden apples, but every night, one was stolen. Guards reported that the
Firebird stole them. The king told his two oldest sons that the one who caught the bird would receive half his kingdom and be his heir. They drew lots to see who would be first, but
both fell asleep; they tried to claim firebird had not come, but it had stolen an apple. Finally Ivan Tsarevich, the youngest son, asked to try; his father was reluctant because of his youth but consented.
Ivan remained awake and caught a tail feather. The Firebird did not return, but the king longed for the bird. He said that still, whoever caught it would have half his kingdom and be his heir.
The older brothers set out. They came to a stone that said whoever took one road would know hunger and cold; whoever took the second would live, though his horse would die; and whoever took the third would die, though his horse would live.
They did not know which way to take, and so took up an idle life.
Ivan begged to be allowed to go until his father yielded. He took the second road, and a wolf ate his horse.
Ivan walked until he was exhausted, and the wolf offered to carry him. It brought him to the garden where the firebird was and told him to take it out without its golden cage. The prince went in, but thought it was a great pity not to take the cage, but when he touched it, bells rang, waking everyone, and he was captured. He told his story, and the Tsar said he could have had it for the asking, but he could be spared now only if he got the Horse with the Golden Mane. He met the wolf and admitted to his disobedience. It carried him to the kingdom and stables where he could get the horse and warned him against the golden bridle. Its beauty tempted him, and he touched it, and instruments of brass sounded. He was captured, and the Tsar told him that if he had come with the word, he would have given him the horse, but now he would be spared only if he brought him Helen the Beautiful to be his wife. He went back to the wolf, confessed, and was brought to her castle. The wolf carried her off, but Ivan was able to assuage her fears. Ivan brought her back to the Tsar, but wept because they had come to love each other. The wolf turned itself into the form of the princess and had Ivan exchange it for the Horse with the Golden Mane. Ivan and Helen rode off on the Horse. The wolf escaped the Tsar. It reached Ivan and Helen, and Helen rode the horse and Ivan the wolf. Ivan asked the wolf to become like the horse and let him exchange it for the Firebird, so that he could keep the horse as well. The wolf agreed, the exchange was done, and
Ivan returned to his own kingdom with Helen, the horse, and the Firebird.
The wolf said its service was done when they returned to where it had eaten Ivan's horse. Ivan dismounted and lamented their parting. They went on for a time and slept. His older brothers found them,
killed Ivan, sliced his body to pieces, and told Helen that they would kill her if she would not say that they had gotten the horse, the firebird, and her. They brought them to their father, and the second son got half the kingdom, and the oldest was to marry Helen.
The Grey Wolf found Ivan's body and caught two fledgling crows that would have eaten it. Their mother pleaded for them, and the wolf sent her to fetch
the water of death, which restored the body, and the water of life, which revived him. The wolf carried him to the wedding in time to stop it; the older brothers were made servants, but Ivan married Helen and lived happily with her.
Q: (L) But are whales sentient, thinking, self-aware as humans are?
A: Apples and oranges.
Q: (L) Well, since whales are so big, do they have bigger souls?
A: Irrelevant.
Q: (L) Is there some way to communicate with whales or dolphins and can one find a way to
translate the differences and have a reasonable, intelligent exchange with a whale or a dolphin or
even an elephant?
A: You don't need conversation "with" when a higher telepathic level.
Q: (L) Dolphins and whales communicate telepathically?
A: Yes.
Not clear if mentioning apples and oranges in transcript above relates to not mixing sacred with profane (not mixing diffent subjects, or C’s wanted to ‘get’ message about apples…
Robert Graves in The White Goddess writes: ‘The connection of the apple tree with immortality is both ancient and widespread.’ Pricipia Discordia adds that ‘There is historic disagreement concerning whether this apple was of metalic gold or acapulco.’
Lewis Spence in The Minor Traditions of British Mythology, tells us that the common apple tree reached Greece from the North. It was adopted by the Greek sun-god as especially sacred to him, and
from the Celtic word 'Abal' an apple, the god derived his name Apollo. Avalon, Avallach and Avalloch are Celtic variations of the same word. [Rhys, Arthurian Legend]
In Norse legend the food of immortality of the gods in Asgard was the apple. The Apple of the Hesperides...fruit of which Hercules and Perseus, son of Danae of the Brazen Tower, went in quest...
The Hesperides and golden apples in Greek Mythology
In Greek mythology, the Hesperides were nymphs who guarded the legendary Golden Apple tree. There are several different accounts of their ancestry in myth. The ancient poet Hesiod claims that these nymphs were the daughters of Nyx, the goddess of Night:
"After them dark Night, having lain with no one,
gave birth...to the Hesperides, who live beyond Okeanos
and keep the golden apples and the fruit-bearing trees. (Hesiod, Theogony, 213-216)
However, other ancient sources state that the Hesperides were the offspring of quite different parents. Atlas and Hesperis, Atlas and Pleione, or even Ceto and Phorcys were all offered as possible parents to the Hesperides.
Despite the differing opinions about the ancestry of these nymphs, ancient authors agree that the Hesperides were important in Greek myth as the guardians of the tree from which the Golden Apples grew. And these were not just any apples, either - they were the fruit that the goddess Hera received as wedding a gift from Gaia (the Earth). Indeed, the golden apples appear in several myths, including the story of Atalanta and Hippomenes, and the legendary tale of the labors of Herakles.
The Hesperides lived together in a garden, along with the dragon Ladon. There are names associated with the individual nymphs, and they are often called Aigle, Arethusa, Erytheia, Hespera, and Hesperethusa. Together, the nymphs sang enchanting and beautiful songs.
The eleventh of Hercules' Twelve Labours was to fetch the golden apples of the Hesperides. Sibyl told Aeneas that the only means of entering and returning safely from the underworld was to carry the fruit of the golden bough. In accordance with the cult of the goddess Diana at Nemi most authorities agree it is likely that the golden bough was an apple - branch.
The adventures of Jason and the Argonauts and their search for the Golden Fleece would appear to be yet another legend concerning a heroic quest for a golden apple. The Greek word for sheep - 'melon'- can also mean apple. 'The Golden Fleece' could also mean 'The Golden Apple.' The adventures of Jason in Colchis are seen to be almost identical with that of Hercules in the Hesperides and also with that of Siegfried. All three fight a serpent dragon. The prize is a golden treasure.
Lancelot fell asleep under an apple-tree.
'The Irish'Echtra Condla' tells how Connla, the son of a king in the 2nd century AD is invited by a beautiful and immortal woman to the land of heart's desire. At the command of his father the king, the Druids do all in their power to prevent the prince from following the woman, who is invisible to all but Connla. She tells him she is of the people who dwell in the mounds of the 'Sidhe'
and gives him an apple. He eats; it never grows less, nor does he require other food. After a month she returns to fetch Connla in her boat of glass.
He goes with her to another world, to an Elysian 'Sidhe' Isle.
Odin hears the Prayers of King Rerir and his wife for a daughter. The goddess Freya gives an apple to a casket bearing maiden. The maid 'took the apple, and did put on the gear of a crow, and went flying till she came where the king sat on a mound, and there she let the apple fall into the lap of the king'. 'The Volksung Saga'...[trans. From Icelandic by Eirikur Magnusson and William Morris.]
Wizard Merlin ( Myrddin) in early welsh poetry is repeatedly linked with apples and apple-trees.
'Afallenau' - 'Apple trees' describes how Merlin sleeps in or under an apple tree in the Caledon forest.
A ball of melted in furnace iron resembles a divine fruit, a scarlet apple.
