Thank you so much for this (and all the podcasts)! I find these discussions to be so helpful. One real eye opener for me was the point on revolutionaries. I'd read ISOTM (only once, mind) and even though I'd read the part about the revolutionaries it didn't "click" until Laura put it in context. It was also comforting as I have just such a friend who has frustrated the hell out of me. We're only in touch on Facebook these days after having been out of contact for a long time. I always admired his intelligence and when we recently found each other on Facebook I was very interested in his regular posts on the warcrimes in Palestine and moneycrimes in Ireland. What bothered me is that he would often criticize links to SOTT articles I posted on Facebook. He's studied history and journalism at university whereas I didn't go to university. The feeling I often get from him (unspoken) is that I'm naive, even crazy because I "believe in that reptile stuff". He implied in some of his comments to me that I should get out and protest more as well as his occasional recommendations of what I should read. Any recommendations from me as to what he should read usually go ignored. E.g. Political Ponerology. I recently finally got a comment from him on Ponerology which essentially went like this: "Nah, I don't believe in evil. I have some friends in university who are studying psychology (masters and undergraduate); I'll ask them about it" - the implication being here in my opinion that "only a psychologist can decide if it's worthwhile or not". This reminds me of Laura's comments on the "compartmentalisation of education").
Basically I have a friend here who is highly intelligent and well educated and yet as far as I can see convinced that our problems can be solved solely from a human perspective. Recently when the Irish government accepted the deal from the IMF he was posting things like "the revolution has started!" and "c'mon everybody- to the streets!". It's not that I don't think people shouldn't protest. Rather what I question is his seemingly blind faith in the power of protest, "honest journalism" and that revolution will come about from the "well written wikileaks section of the guardian.co.uk" Then, when I heard you talk about how even the revolutionaries were victims of "mass hypnosis", well I guess it fell into place for me. Once again, thank you!