Paralyzed in Dream

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I had a kind of scary dream recently so thought I should post it. In the dream, I was in my house, not exactly sure what I was doing, I think maybe cleaning, and I suddenly noticed a woman in the room. She was about 60, dressed in a business suit, not making any noise or anything - But her mouth was full of chocolate and she just stood there stuffing and cramming the food down her mouth at a really fast rate. I noticed that she had left a trail of boxes of perfume and cologne like from the duty free shop or something all around her.

At first, I was more surprised than scared in the dream, as she didn't appear threatening. Then I started to move towards her to tell her to leave, and I discovered that I couldn't move or speak. Thats when I started getting really frightened, and started struggling and straining to move and I could not! Finally after what seemed a really intense struggle, I managed to just croak out in a whisper "Get out!" and then I woke up.

My first thought as I awoke covered in sweat was, "it was them" - meaning 4D STS. Or some sort of representation of my own struggle with STS traits. The symbols in the dream seemed pretty basic, consuming etc. so it seems it was some kind of STS encounter, but in case I'm missing something, thought I'd see if anyone has any thoughts.
 
Well something else to consider is that the body is paralyzed during sleep, and dream content probably is affected by these sensations. You probably just made the association between that and alien abduction, though obviously the latter is also possible. But there's not enough data, so I'd say: let it rest and carry on working on things that are important.
 
Craig said:
Well something else to consider is that the body is paralyzed during sleep, and dream content probably is affected by these sensations. You probably just made the association between that and alien abduction, though obviously the latter is also possible. But there's not enough data, so I'd say: let it rest and carry on working on things that are important.
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I didn't actually consider my body being paralyzed because of sleep , (though I was able to move in the dream prior to noticing the woman), so that's something to think about. I wasn't thinking I had been abducted though, more like it was a symbolic thing in the dream of my struggle with my STS nature and/or the 4D STS manipulations in general.
Thanks for your comments.
 
I was thinking of a section of Ouspensky's "A New Model of the Universe" where he discusses his experiments with half-dream states to see the causes of his recurring ones:

The first and most characteristic dream, which I had very often, was one in which I saw a quagmire or bog of a peculiar character which I was never able to describe to myself afterwards. Often this quagmire or bog, or merely deep mud, such as is seen on Russian roads and even in Moscow streets, appeared before me on the ground or even on the floor of the room, without any association with the plot of the dream. I did my utmost to avoid this mud, not to step into it, even not to touch it. But I invariably got into it, and it began to suck me in and generally sucked my legs in up to the knees. I made every conceivable effort to get out of this mud or mire, and sometimes I succeeded, but then I usually awoke.

It was very tempting to interpret this dream allegorically, as a threat or a warning. But when I began to have this dream in "half-dream states" it was explained very simply. The whole content of this dream was created by the sensation of my legs being entangled in the blanket or sheets, so that I could neither move nor turn them. If I succeeded in turning over, I escaped from this mud, but then I invariably woke up, because I made a violent movement. (...)

In "half-dream states" the sequence of associations in the whole dream was quite clear. First appeared the sensation of bound legs, then the signal: bog, mire, window, peculiar soft mud. Then fear, desire to tear oneself away and usually the awakening. There was nothing, absolutely nothing, mystical or psychologically significant in these dreams. (...)

Even these first observations of recurring dreams showed me that dreams depend much more on the direct sensations of a given moment than on any general causes. Gradually I became convinced that almost all recurring dreams were connected with the sensation not even of a state, but simply with the sensation of the posture of the body at the given moment.

When I happened to press my hand with my knee and the hand became numb, I dreamt that a dog was biting my hand. When I wanted to take something in my hands or lift it, it fell out of my hands because my hands were as limp as rags and refused to obey me. I remember once in a dream I had to break something with a hammer, and the hammer was as if made of india rubber; it rebounded from the object I was striking, and I could not give any force to my blows. This, of course, was simply the sensation of relaxed muscles.

There was another recurring dream which always frightened me. In this dream I was a paralytic or a cripple; I fell down and could not get up, because my legs did not obey me. This dream also seemed to be a presentiment of what was going to happen to me, until in "half-dream states" I became convinced that it was merely the sensation of motionless legs with relaxed muscles, which of course could not obey moving impulses.

Altogether I saw that our movements, especially our impulses to movements, and the sense of impotence in making a particular movement, play the most important role in the creation of dreams.
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It's certainly another interesting angle to consider in dream analysis. fwiw.
 
Craig said:
Well something else to consider is that the body is paralyzed during sleep
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It reminds me that when Castaneda expected to move consciously the first time, he wasn't able to do it.
According to Don Juan, it was because he thought to do it with his head, and not with his intention.

I've got a lot of dream where I was paralyzed when younger. It was always in situations of fear and the more I wanted to move the less I could.
One day, ( i was working on the couscious dreams), I was paralyzed again, but it was not in a bad situation, and I have focused my attention on a region under my stomach and it was like if I was drawn by a rope.


But perhaps, Manitoban, it could be also a psychological situation in your life where you don't know how to deal with, or a hard decision to take...

Some ideas...
 
Oh, boy. Do I hate being paralyzed when dreaming. I had number of sleep paralysis when I was in college, but recently when I take meltonin, I get less paralysis and more rest.

I found something online to make sense as regards to our bodies being paralyzed. Just another note.

From: _http://www.dreamdoctor.com/better/paralysis/paralyzed.shtml

You’re paralyzed! And it doesn’t feel too good, does it?

(We can all think of better ways to wake up in the morning…)

Before you get nervous about a demon of your past haunting you, though, it will help if we review some basics of sleep physiology.

Each night when we dream, our bodies actually do become paralyzed. Commands for movement that are generated during REM, or dreaming sleep, are intercepted at the top of our spinal cords in an area of the brain stem called the pyramidal tract. The reason this occurs is so that we don’t move during REM. Otherwise, we would all get out of bed—and start acting out our dreams!

Paralysis during REM functions as a safety feature—so that we each don’t go wandering around in the middle of the night during our REM sleep periods. It also functions to ensure that REM is accomplished efficiently—without a lot of arousals that would interfere with the accomplishment of REM itself.

Usually everything works OK. We are only paralysed when we are asleep, and then boom!—as soon as we wake up—the paralysis is over, and we immediately can move again.

It’s not a perfect system, though, and occasionally our brains and bodies wake up out of synch. In fact, most of us have experienced sleep paralysis (also known as REM paralysis) at one time or another. Usually it happens when we are especially tired. If we are low on sleep, our bodies will try to “keep us” in REM, as it were, until the needed amount is achieved.

The solution for this problem is simple. Take the paralysis as a sign that you are low on sleep, and make some extra time in your schedule to catch up.

Sleep paralysis also is associated with a sleep disorder called Narcolepsy. If you’re tired all the time no matter how much you sleep (...) Narcolepsy is rare, but it often is undiagnosed. Most people suffer with the tiredness for much longer than they need to.

As for those nagging intruders hovering over your bed when you can’t move? As you know, they aren’t real. They’re just the products of a REM-activated imagination, at a time when you feel especially vulnerable.

Remember, you're partly awake and partly asleep when you’re paralyzed—so take everything you "see" —with a grain of salt!
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Makes you wonder if when you're dreaming, paralyzing sensation of your body became part of the dream. So, manitoban, maybe your dream was connected to sensation of your body at the time of dreaming, which may be why you experience paralyzed in dream.

Just wanted to give another perpective. fwiw.

Anita said:
Have the intention of centering yourself when you feel paralysis, that should help.
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For me, once I realized that I am being paralyzed, I think to myself: "I'm having a separation of awareness" and try to get myself together. It works, after a few seconds.
 
Chocolate, parfum, cologne are really unhealthy products. What about paralysis from toxins?

Edit: I dreamt twice about mercury saturated water which was spilled on the floor or spilled on my body. I felt pretty dirty in my dream. It's a dirt you can't remove by washing. Later, I tested free mercury in my body by means of kinesiology. So, it was obviously a sign to me (from my body?) that detoxification measures can and should be taken.
 
I have occasionally suffered from sleep paralysis most of my life, sometimes it would be a dream within a dream and sometimes I would be wide awake for some seemengly long moments completely paralised. only few years ago I discovered this is acknowledeged as medical condition although nobody has much clue of its ethiology and genesis. There are different theories, some of them involve predilection to narcolepsy, some shutting down of certain parts of nervous system, but my experience tells me the culprit is something more nasty then simple organic malfunctions.

The funniest thing is every since I started discovering CS and related readings I managed to break these states everytime they would occur.
The thing is before I would be consumed with panic and ultimate terror, just like a lamb in front of butchers knife.
Now I just focus on the movement in my toes and that works like a chamr instantly. Also Laura's podcast on egsorcism was pretty much an inspiration for my mantra to fight this affliciton.
of coures its not easy to keep the presence and awareness once you wake up to most horrible terror you ever experienced. But it can be done.
And you get better and better every time.
In any case- knowledge really does protect, more you know less vulnerable you are

ps. just noticed anita advised the same, in less words :)
 
Craig said:
You probably just made the association between that and alien abduction, though obviously the latter is also possible. But there's not enough data, so I'd say: let it rest and carry on working on things that are important.
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IMO not every paralaysis necesarily means abduction. This is just a theory based on some of my experiences, but it appears to me that during these states some kind of intense feeding is going on. You are not suppose to wake up, but you do. Maybe more conscious you are defense mechanisms seem to be working better.
 
Thank you everyone for your input. It's given me a lot to think about. I am surprised to see how common paralysis in dreams is, it's the first time that I can recall that happening to me which is why I thought it was significant. It's certainly possible that my body sensations were incorporated into the dream, I don't know, but I will keep in mind the advice given here if it should happen again.

Data said:
Chocolate, parfum, cologne are really unhealthy products. What about paralysis from toxins?
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Interesting thought, there may be something to this - I'm in the process now of trying to eat more organic food and avoiding when I can toxins in other products, so that may be related.

Deckard said:
IMO not every paralaysis necesarily means abduction. This is just a theory based on some of my experiences, but it appears to me that during these states some kind of intense feeding is going on. You are not suppose to wake up, but you do. Maybe more conscious you are defense mechanisms seem to be working better.
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Yes, I tend to agree with your theory, can't be sure of course, but that is my feeling as well.
 
Apologies for the aside, but, Data, I'm interested in finding out what makes you think that chocolate is an unhealthy product?
 
Deckard said:
Craig said:
You probably just made the association between that and alien abduction, though obviously the latter is also possible. But there's not enough data, so I'd say: let it rest and carry on working on things that are important.
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IMO not every paralaysis necesarily means abduction. This is just a theory based on some of my experiences, but it appears to me that during these states some kind of intense feeding is going on. You are not suppose to wake up, but you do. Maybe more conscious you are defense mechanisms seem to be working better.
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I can relate to that, I´we experienced a sleep-paralaysis circa a year ago and I still remember the terror. The thing is that I cant tell what happened first, did I become horrified from the experience or did I experience something (in my sleepstate) that made med horrified.
Still remember the terror and the truly wonderful feeling of breaking free from the paralaysis, I moved my thumb or some small muscle.
 
When I imagined the scene with the woman stuffing the chocolate in her mouth, I felt this sick feeling in my body I always have if I consume lots of chocolate (say, one bar at once). The sugar makes me weak and I really feel nauseated afterwards. Chocolate as such is certainly not unhealthy, but I meant the term for excessive consumation in the context of the dream. I also assumed that the woman in the dream used the parfum with it's alcohol and other processed substances excessively. So, for me this would be a weakening combination, possibly to the extent of paralyzation.

It seems to me that I assumed things and related them to the individual reactions of my body that are certainly not common, but maybe worth considering. Next time I try harder to verbalize my thoughts, sorry for that.
 
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