I have long followed Walter and his research, I might just get in a few good bits in this thread. Apart from the book, this is a very good text too. It was a while since I read the book but I think this covers some of the books material but also new material.
For you who want to listen instead of reading, here is the whole interview read by a synthetic voice, that I made. Boring voice, but you can go out in the sun and listen to it. http://drop.io/sercthistrymindkntrl
CKLN-FM Mind Control Series
CKLN 88.1 FM Ryerson Polytechnical University Toronto Ontario
International Connection Mind Control Series
Producer/Interviewer: Wayne Morris
Good morning and welcome to International Connection. We are in show #33 in our series on Mind Control, and today we are going to hear a presentation, The Secret History of Mind Control, given by Walter Bowart at the Ritual Trauma Child Abuse and Mind Control Conference in Atlanta in October, 1997. Walter Bowart is an investigative journalist and author of one of the original books about mind control in the late seventies entitled, Operational Mind Control. And now, Walter Bowart:
Introduction by Sylvia Gillotte:
I guess Walter almost needs no introduction because he was really probably the first person to publicly write about mind control and its origins and so forth. His book, Operation Mind Control, is available at his table at the back. Most recently Walter was involved as a consultant in the making of the movie, Conspiracy Theory, and some of you may have seen him actually interviewed for an HBO special promoting the movie. It was the first time I ever got to see what Walter looked like so I could recognize him when he came. He has the Freedom of Thought Foundation, which he will tell you about. He is going to share his information with you, so welcome Walter.
I would like to thank some people. I was going to save it until the end but I want to get it right up front since a couple of them are here. I would like to thank Mike Coyle for what he contributed to this. What you are going to see is a series of out-takes, some are from videos, and a lot of them are still ... it's a very rough presentation of what's going to be a documentary. I would like to thank Mike Coyle who is retired from the field. He had the Mindnet Journal which was on the internet, and he did a terrific job of research. He is finding that a lot of the critical things that we are going to talk about as we get toward the end of this show, are actually removed from journals ... pages torn out of academic research journals and things. Somebody doesn't want this information out.
I am going to cover things going back ... Sylvia asked me to do the history of mind control but I'm going to go farther afield ... probably than most of you had heard about. It is so far beyond any technology you are talking about, like electromagnetic spectrum stuff ... we are into post-quantum physics here, and now we are working with physicists.
I would also like to thank Blanche Chavoustie who is here for the long years of friendship and the documentation and research that she has helped us with and Cheryl Welsh, who I think is not here, who also contributed boxes and boxes of research, and Doreen Pratt who is hospitalized and not able to travel ... she is blind, legally blind, and you will see some of her work in this presentation. And I would like to thank all the members of the Freedom of Thought Foundation for their assistance, and friendship and guidance over the 20 years that we have been doing this.
The big key to the thing is that only the small secrets need to be kept. You can find just about anything the government is doing by going into scientific journals and doing research. But the big secrets are kept by public incredulity and your study and your experience is in an area which is not secret. All this has been known for a long time, but people don't want to believe it and there is a great deal of denial.
[Slide] With the evolution of man came the evolution of science, and here's an example of an early treatment by the foremost practitioners of "mental health science". This is an etching from 1745. It shows a ward in Bethlehem Hospital in London. It was pronounced Bethlem, and it became Bedlam, the famous synonym for the nuthouse.
[Slide] A patient of Bethlem, William Norris, was confined there for 12 years, bound by chains a foot long and to an iron rod at the head of his bed. He died in 1815. Another patient at Bethlem, who we do not have a picture of was James Tilley Matthews. He was incarcerated there for 35 years and escaped only by death, and it is a very interesting story. In the late 1700's he had gone to France as a spy for the British Admiralty, posing as an import-export agent. He travelled in the highest circles of French society. Things went wrong for him when he fell into the hands of Franz Anton Mesmer, the father of hypnotism. Mesmer used to play parlour games by having aristocrats stand in tubs of water while he played DC current over their heads, to what purpose we don't know.
[Slide] This may be one of the first perpetrators of mind control ... one of the founders of our country ... Benjamin Franklin. He was the US ambassador to France at the time, and if you remember, he was the discoverer of electricity which was DC electricity. He discovered it when he flew a kite on a wire during an electrical storm, and it was a shocking experience. Franklin may have used that later for the effects we now know DC current gives. It will induce amnesia easily. Franklin was asked by the French government to look into the activities of Mesmer and his claims of miraculous cures with electricity. They hit it off real well, but it's not surprising. They were both the brothers of the same secret society ... the Masons. Franklin filed a lengthy report favourable to Mesmer to the French government. Another brother Mason who frequently visited them in Paris was Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Illumaniti. These coincidences bring a lot of questions to your mind about what were these guys really doing over there, and what did they find out?
Mesmer happened to be, believe it or not, the godfather of Amadeus Mozart. In fact he raised Mozart, and of course Mozart was this incredible genius musician and his biography will show you more than one obvious example of someone who behaves as if he were suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder. You can conclude that maybe Mesmer played around to enhance the musical abilities of Mozart at the cost of other parts of his personality.
[slide] We are back to James Tilley Matthews and after a few years of influence by Franklin and Mesmer, he beat a path as soon as he could back to England, reported to the Admiralty the French had developed a devastating instrument of war, an "airloom" which could weave thoughts into a man's mind.
[slide] At the top it says "Illustrations of Madness", that's the name of the book written by John Haslam, the apothecary (in modern terms, the resident medical officer) to Bethlem Hospital toward the end of Matthews' stay. In the first decade of the 19th century Haslam wrote this whole volume called "Illustrations of Madness" just singly on the Matthews case. It was published in 1810. It was the first book length case study of a single patient in British psychiatric history. According to Roy Porter who repackaged Haslam's 1810 book "Illustrations of Madness" in 1988 ... that's the only way you are going to find it. There are rare volumes, you have to pay at least $40 for a used copy.
Because of the book, Matthews' fate became a cause celebre everywhere - in Britain and the United States. It was used against Bethlem Hospital in general, and Haslam in particular, ironically, when the institution came under scathing scrutiny by a House of Commons committee investigating madhouses in 1815. A few years before the madhouse era, there were only a few people declared insane, but by the late 1700's and the early 1800's, there were hundreds of thousands of people now in these madhouses, so-called. While Matthews is interesting to us for other reasons, he was the cause celebre that created social reform in the madhouse business.
According to Porter, the significance of his case was way back about two hundred years ago, he was describing experiences that modern victims of mind control are now describing, even using some of the same terms. Today Matthews would be diagnosed as having "delusional disorder", and I think delusional disorder is a misdiagnosis for a whole lot of things. Maybe he would be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia or paranoid schizophrenia, which we now know is an extremely rare disease. When I wrote "Operation Mind Control" back in 1978, there were only 25 MPD cases diagnosed, now there are hundreds of thousands. Most of the people I was writing about were called schizophrenic by the doctors ... and they weren't. Of course, they were D.I.D.
A Dr. George Birkeck of London examined Haslem in those days, and testified before the King's Bench that after paying James Tilley Matthews six visits at Bethlem and having attempted "by every mode of examination which he could devise" to discover the real state of his mind, he said Matthews was not insane. Matthews was talking about sudden death squeezing, lobster cracking. He was admitted on January 28, 1797 to Bethlem after he had been behaving oddly for quite a while, about a year, and among his strange behaviour was writing a letter to his benefactor, Lord Liverpool, who was in the Admiralty and was part of this intelligence scam that he was involved in, "I pronounce your Lordship to be in every sense of the word a most diabolical traitor after a long life of political and real iniquity during which your Lordship, by flattering and deceiving and more than anyone contributing to deceive your King who believing your hypocritical professions, has to be the detriment of many of the country's friends, loaded you with honours and emollients. You have made yourself a principal in schemes of treasons founded upon the most extensive intrigues which have not not only long since laid this country at the feet of its most bitter enemies who have assassinated France, to reap further advantages from those who by such wickedness might in such general assassinating scandal mount the throne ..." and so forth, written in the grand prose of that day. And that will get you locked up, even today that would get you locked up ...
But he is talking about thought-making. Haslam, the doctor who treated him, said, "In this situation he continued for many years, sometimes an automaton, moved by the agencies of persons hereafter to be introduced to the notice of the reader." And of course he talked about spies, thugs and assassins who were putting voices in his head and controlling him. Matthews insisted that in some apartment near London Wall there is a "gang of villains, profoundly skilled in pneumatic chemistry who assail him by means of an airloom." Of a variety of tortures he described so colourfully, were "fluid locking, cutting soul from sense, stone making, thigh talking, kiting involving magnetic impregnations ... sudden death squeezing, lobster cracking caused by pressure from the 'magnetic atmosphere surrounding the persons assailed', apoplexy working with a nutmeg grater, lengthening the brain, thought-making while one of these villains is sucking at the brain of the person assailed to distract his existing sentiments, another of the gang will force into his mind a train of ideas very different from the real subject of his thoughts in which is squeezed upon as the desired information by the person sucking." "Laughter-making, poking, pushing up the quicksilver, bladder filling, tying down, bomb bursting, gas plucking (the extraction of magnetic fluid from a person assailed), foot curving, lethargy-making, spark exploding, knee nailing, burning out, eye screwing, sight stopping, roof stringing, vital tearing, fibre ripping brain sayings ..." and other descriptions of physical and psychological tortures caused by some invisible means which Matthews put into the high tech terms of his day.
Now, this is very similar to what people are describing today. This is the way he drew a layout of the way he was assailed and interrogated by these 17th Century assassins and he said that a pneumatic machine [slide] this is a sketch he made of it ... was used, this was the high technology that was doing all this. If you are interested in this, try to find the book, you may have to do a search for it. But the EM targeted victims of today are not sounding much different than that. This guy is pretty colourful and of course the language is very arcane.
Matthews ... he was the first. It was 200 years ago. He is the first single case ever chronicled in the psychiatric literature that we know of. This is nothing new. Could it be that Franklin and those other guys came up with something that they really did use, because that's what Matthews claims. Today we have the category, and I don't like the term but it is used, "Wavies" -- those are people who are targets of electromagnetic waves of some kind, or I prefer the term "EM targeted individuals". Some of these people claim to be alien abductees or government mind control victims, or satanic abused people. There is nothing in Matthews' description that these groups of people haven't also described experiencing.
Then you have to ask, doing what I did for 20 years, hearing all these stories, you are gathering probably the largest data base ... using a 27 page questionnaire, I am looking for mind control victims and of course our questionnaire is on mind control - but it kind of gives you an indication of everything else, including the alien abduction scenario which is very peculiar, very unusual. We have the largest data base ... and after you hear this, you say, "could it be that these delusions, if they are delusions - do we as a species lack such imagination as to keep coming up with the same thing over and over for 200 years?" Can't we go beyond this? Shouldn't madness be really 'out there'? But something is happening here. There is a pattern to this, and you hear people who don't know each other, have had no contact with this thing at all, who never read a book on it, saying the same thing. I sit down with some survivors who have experienced trauma abuse and trauma based programming and compare notes, it will be the same. And it runs true.
This is later. This is now the early 19th century [slide] -- we've got the Lavery Electric Phrenometer - it was the high tech of its day, intended to accurately measure the bumps on your head and so predict the nature, type and behaviour of individuals who would hold still for it. And it was taken very seriously for a while, until somebody said, "hey, there's no data base for this, you know?"
[slide] Early 20th century - "Mental Poisoning", it was a popular book written by a psychologist in the early days when people were hearing voices, mental poisoning. And then we got more scientific - this is an obsolete version of Colin Ross's book - he made a contribution to the field by doing that research. But here we go in the 1920's or 30's - everybody was hearing voices, everybody, and all you had to do was turn on a radio. There was no need for implanted electrodes to control your behaviour.
[slide] Here's a Nazi rally in pre-war Germany. Students of Marshall McLuhan will tell you how radio created Nazism, the blitzkreig, and mass obedience like nothing before it. As one psychoscientist put it, "the stentorian voices of the mass media are more universally powerful than the indiscriminate persuasions of any mind altering drug." Most of the survivors in this room probably don't watch a lot of television, right? Does anybody want to confess? Okay. (Never owned one? Yes.)
[slide] Now this is the guy - Freedom of Thought Foundation is going to have an award - and all of you will have a chance to vote on who is going to get the first one - it's very expensive to make those little statues but nobody will pick it up so we can just peel off the brass plate every year and use the same one. We have a few candidates. Jolyon West is a candidate, Martin Orne is a candidate, there are two or three others. But they will all be on the ballot. I have been working on this brain which is about this big, and it's gold, and it's fried black and it's broken off and it's got two electrodes on it and it sits on kind of like a beer can - kind of a nice looking thing.
It's called the Mengele Award after Josef Mengele, this guy here. That's Joe, and he was one of the mind control men, you know, from the ubermentsch ... there's nothing like opening a skull and letting your bare fingers run through someone's brain or freezing human beings to near the point of death and then finding out through trial and error that the easiest way to defrost someone is to put them close to another naked human body. And these are just a few of the brutal experiments, though some of that was valuable for hypothermia ... all of the records of what Joe Mengele did in Nazi concentration camps, and all of the records of his research are now on file at the National Archives. We should probably get them all - I think some of them are still classified. But these are the people he is working on - these are his subjects. Of course Mengele was fascinated by genetics. I haven't really addressed genetics and most survivors realize that it is multigenerational, most sons and daughters of Masons realize that is part of the Masonic belief is that if you program or if you train or educate or whatever the word is, a person over two or three generations the knowledge begins to be true ...
We are heading that way and these twins were a part of Mengele's studies and he did a number of things. Twins appear to be telepathic. With NLP you can understand how that works, and our workshops demonstrate what looks like telepathy by mirroring and matching. If you can sit with somebody and match their breathing pattern and establish this incredible rapport, you will experience, if you are sitting there in a state - imagining sitting there on a mountaintop and the wind is blowing or whatever - you will pick up the wind and you will pick up all the sensory experience that they are having. You might not put it together in the right way, you might say "I am driving in my convertible and the wind is in my hair" or something, but twins are known to be - and you can't match any better than twins - they suffered great atrocities at the hand of Mengele and they are here and they have been interviewed, and that's the last picture that was taken of Dr. Josef Mengele who was said to have been in Arizona in 1960, there is a persistent rumor. But of course they say he wasn't, he was in Argentina and he died down there and yet they are not sure that those are his bones ...
It is also one of the persistent rumors that he was brought over in Project Paperclip. We know he worked on a farm in Germany for a few years before the end of WWII. There is the question of the Green programming, and the two protégés he had that were sent to Harvard and all that, and I am sure you have heard of this and more, but there is no proof of it. I keep harping on this - we won't find any documentation or proof until we repeal the National Security Act. As you begin to research in this thing, and I have been smashing my head against the NSA for 20 years. They do whatever they want. Colonel Fletcher Prouty is a friend of mine. He said "they are over there now", he lives nearby, you can look out the window. "See the lights are on. They are Xeroxing forged documents." The National Archives are locked up as far as this stuff goes. Anything that is useful, anything that is about mind control, and we'll get back to that ...
There are so many doctors - I guess Colin Ross is writing a book about it - he's following up on some of our research that we did 25 years ago. He's gotten the papers of Dr. Estabrooks and Estabrooks knew Milton Erickson, who I think was a great guy myself, but he did work for the government, and they all knew each other and Ewen Cameron comes in, it was a Who's Who of everybody who worked in the psychiatric mental health profession of that particular generation, my father's generation.
Sociologists as well, it's been going on for fifty years. Guys like Robert J. Lifton who is thought of very highly, worked with Dr. John Mack, the alien guy, the UFO guy. They had a partnership - they worked in a little company that was funded by the CIA MKULTRA project. And in national mental health, all the universities were used - you know the story - and Operation Mind Control gives you a big list on all this stuff. I mean, it's just scratching the surface.
And I hear some of you gasp at some of this stuff. Have you read Lifton's book, "The Nazi Doctors"? That's a pretty interesting study of how - it takes up the obedience to authority kind of thing, how people can be made to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do. Lest you gasp repeatedly throughout this presentation, let me generalize. Virtually every psychologist, psychiatrist, sociologist, cyberneticist, and so on of that generation previous to mine, were funded either wittingly or unwittingly by the CIA. The CIA through a number of cutout organizations co-opted the entire mental health profession and put it to work on mind control. It's a hard thing finding people that aren't part of the game, you know, part of the bad guys.
A few years after the end of WWII, about the CIA was being founded, and one of their first concerns in 1947 - the Soviets engineered a show trial against Roman Catholic Cardinal Minzente who appeared before a kangaroo court in a trance and confessed to everything he was accused of which a few years later he couldn't remember. The CIA looked into this and they said "oh they've got something we don't have, and we need this". We'd better look into this. It was a fledgling agency in those days. We're celebrating its 50th anniversary and I got a big kick out of George Bush standing up next to Richard Helms, who went to jail and was convicted of lying to Congress, he was the Director of the CIA, and Nixon was singing this man's praises, saying what a great patriot he was. If you are a patriot, you lie to everybody, you lie to your country. That's how far our morals and ethics have fallen.
[slide] These are some of the things you find on the internet too, you find a lot of very good stuff, very succinct. And that talks about Harris Isabell in 1955, part of MKULTRA Bluebird, the hospital in Lexington, Kentucky and things ... of course Nelson Rockefeller wanted to become president one day and he was standing at the bedside of lady liberty when she gave birth to her bastard child, the freak of nature, part of the invisible Cold War, information - they christened the baby "Information Warfare", they called it. The father nicknamed it "Brainwashing".
Brainwash. A previous speaker used the term. It is very non-specific, and the term "mind control" isn't much better. But "brainwash" was coined by a CIA propaganda specialist, Ed Hunter, and he advised Allen Dulles who gave a speech at the UN and that's how the term "brainwashing" got started. Dulles' brother was John Foster Dulles. He was the Secretary of State, and Allen called himself the "Secretary of State for Unfriendly Governments". He was the Director of the CIA. They talked about the insidious Fu Manchu Communists in Korea and China who had brainwashed our clean-minded American boys and made them confess to crimes that they did not commit. According to Dulles the Chinese had a way of making strong-minded Americans hallucinate that a US Marine wing had flown a mission over North Korean held territory, dropping germ bombs. Colonel Charles Schwabel here took most of the heat. He was one of the men who allowed himself to be filmed to the US use of germ weapons. The cries of "brainwashing" could not drown out the later revelations that the Marine Air wing had indeed dropped germ bombs on the insidious yellow peoples fighting against the U.S. Later it was revealed that the secret labs at Edgewood Arsenal had developed a race-specific encephalitis germ which infected only oriental people.
... Fu Manchu. Which turned out to be nothing more than isolation, deprivation, alienation ... what this guy was talking about. Very standard stuff. Nothing romantic about it. Just the same old take a person, put their hand in a vise, close the vise, say "talk". They'll talk at some point. That's what brainwashing was. It's like our prison and educational systems. Simple things. The Chinese didn't use drugs or anything sophisticated. But they did get these people to confess readily. So guess what happened? Those of us who served in the military service - we all were the beneficiaries of that - The Code of Conduct. You gave your name, rank and serial number and nothing else. But you wait a certain time and then you can tell them anything because the only thing you have to worry about is tactical information which gets obsolete very fast.
I talked to Laird Gunderson and guys that were in Vietnam and they really stood up to torture. It's an interesting thing to see those men come back in the fifties, standing at a strange angle, behaving like these automatons - it's very interesting - just what isolation, deprivation, alienation can do to somebody. I suffer from it myself, being a writer, sitting in front of that computer so many hours. I catch myself in the mirror, staggering around. So the result was The Code of Conduct.
Out of this came the best psychological study ever done - on 3000 men who were POW's in Korea. They studied them all with a fine-tooth comb. Most interesting, they had three categories: the guys that collaborated outright with the enemy, the guys who resisted the enemy to the death, and the guys that just went along with the enemy. The ones who just went along with the enemy were the same guys that just went along with our military, they were draftees. The guys that collaborated with the enemy outright were the people in our own military who were known as gung-ho. The people that resisted the enemy were the people that resisted our own military and they wanted us all to resist the enemy the same way that those guys did. They studied the "resisters" and they found there was a spectrum of on one hand, there were the criminals, and then at the other end, there were the ones who were highly creative. They began to study more and they saw that criminality is nothing more than misplaced creativity. We have an actual industry in this country of misplaced creativity.
Slide - Brainwashing in Red China. Edward Hunter, the man who coined the term "brainwashing" wrote several books about it. Then came the fictional version of that story by Richard Condon, The Manchurian Candidate. That caught everybody's attention. I knew Richard when he was alive. He was a PR flack who dropped out. He was sixty, and this was his first novel and it was a big hit. It was the story of a guy who was captured - Laurence Harvey played the assassin in the movie. He was programmed. They captured him behind enemy lines, take him up to Manchuria, programmed him, then he came back. He did assassinate the candidate for president who happened to be a guy he didn't like anyway, it was his stepfather, so ... the Queen of Diamonds over the phone triggered the assassination. I asked Condon over the phone - now that he can't defend himself - some guys are writing that Condon knew all about this. He loved my book back in 1974 - I think he saw a rough draft and he wrote great things about it. He said he just read Pavlov and Salter, and invented the rest because it was a pretty basic premise. Frank Sinatra was in the film, he was one of the programmed POW's, and he bought a large piece of the film. It's an interesting movie to watch. When Kennedy was assassinated, he pulled the film out of circulation and it remained out of circulation for probably 15 years which I thought was interesting. Maybe he knew something about the assassination of Kennedy that we don't know.
Slide - These are some of the 1940 stills that I found of soldiers under hypnosis being marched around ... demonstrating before others. In 1978 I went all over the world with these slides. It was shocking to people. They didn't know you could be made to do something against your will and without your knowledge. They didn't know you could do mind over matter kinds of things with your body, control blisters, what have you. I learned from Anthony Robbins when I saw 200 people walk over a bed of coals as long as this room - they were trying to do the Guinness Book of Records. It was a mesquite fire, the hottest kind of fire because of the oil which stuck to their feet. 60% got burns, but 40% didn't. Now you explain that to me ... Andy Wile, the new age healer, he's an MD - he wouldn't walk in it. He knew what a hot fire was. We know you can control blisters.
Cathy O'Brien tells an interesting story about being burned between her breasts with nitrous oxide while in a hypnotic state, and having a baphomet appear - a demonic star, goat like figure which was used by Knights Templar and has a whole history - apparently Noriega was very superstitious and she had a message, she claims, from high ranking government (George Bush) to give to Noriega. To get his attention, her handler gave her that cue phrase and that baphomet appears - it would only come out in that state. Things like that can be done, and have been repeated in laboratory experiments. But in 1940 they weren't doing that. I just threw this in as a filler, because what we are talking about is how to divide your mind.
If Daddy hasn't already done it - I don't know what this guy said - he said it happens at an early age - it's got to be emotional - true. But he didn't say it's got to happen before you can speak. Real DID has to happen before you can talk. So that's a very early age, probably a year, if not before. All of us that have had - that know a lot of MPD stories - realize that there are personalities and different identities anchored to various body parts. I have a great video of the most wonderful little lady - she's on our website - Patty - and I have never seen anybody react like this little lady. She herself is the schoolhouse, and she is full of children, trying to burst out. It's almost like her eyeballs move sideways, and one comes out and says "hey, what about me?" - and she can't control this when she gets started. I was trying to do an interview with her, and I said "let me anchor your executive personality". She is a volunteer for certain police things, she has her take-charge personalities, very competent. I wanted to anchor her in that, so I said "let me touch your knee and every time you go off in another personality I will touch your knee and that's your executive, all right?" So I thought I had anchored it pretty good. Well in the middle of the interview here is this little kid again, so I touched her knee, and she says "what do you think you're doing? you're just touching my knee with your finger ... they used a cattle prod". Then she looked at the camera. My girlfriend was the camera operator, Pat - both of them were Pat - they got along great. But she had this great big old studio video camera. And she says, "you know, we did that before, but there was never a woman running the camera ... we were making blue money". I didn't know what blue money was, which is child porn as it turns out.