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Heimdallr:
stevenwarren displayed a complete inability to control his emotions and communicate in a civil manner. He also was taking up the time of others to try and get him to calm down. He did not show any ability to do that, so he has been banned.
anart:
--- Quote from: stevenwarran ---Ottershrew said, "As you may already have gathered, the background to this forum lies in channeled communications."
I said, "I hadn't caught on that, at base, SOTT was about channeled communications, and that explains a lot."
Joe the Administrator said, "SOTT is not at base about channeled communications," without further elaboration.
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What further elaboration was necessary? Joe was being honest. Ottershrew was sharing his/her understanding which is simply not complete. Some of the associated web pages of this forum deal with 'channeled communications' but SOTT, by definition, does not. I really don't see the reason for your continued aggression.
--- Quote from: sw ---So it is rude of me to on the surface say an obviously vexing and provocative thing like, "Got it?" Unadorned. Unshielded.
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Actually, yes, it is rude.
--- Quote from: sw ---Yet Joe, the "Administrator," can tell me where I am wrong, with nary a concern for constructively righting my misinformation, and that is seen as sophisticated sophistry and not rudeness. This coming after his light chiding I was likely to find my beliefs will be found insane here.
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Actually, Joe was being extremely polite in his response, considering your provocation and aggression. If you were familiar at all with this forum, then you would realize that anyone advocating the 'no plane' theory here would have their sanity challenged - and - hmmm - didn't you previously say that you didn't advocate this theory - so how, then, are these your 'beliefs'?
--- Quote from: ws ---Is all this because of my imprecision with language? "At base," for "background." "My area of 9-11 advocacy," instead of "My area of 9-11 core competency?"
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Perhaps. So, are you now saying that you do advocate the 'no plane' theory, but it's not your 'core competency'? Does it depend on what the meaning of 'is' is?
--- Quote from: sw ---And who are all you other people? I was talking to Ottershrew and Joe. Is it fun to "lay on?"
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:lol: 'lay on'? In case you were unaware, this is a forum, not a personal telephone conversation. When anyone posting on this forum makes aggressive and offensive comments to another person on this forum, it is noticed, and quickly - because we do not tolerate such behavior here.
--- Quote from: sw ---Maybe I was having a bad day.
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Perhaps, but why should this forum 'pay' for your bad day by being the recipients of your verbal abuse? Judging from this last response, it seems a rather long day for you.
--- Quote from: sw ---And maybe I don't know how to get off on the right foot.
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Perhaps, but that is not this forum's responsibility.
--- Quote from: sw ---Maybe I have a spanking fetish and Joe is an authority trigger.
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Perhaps, but there are other forums for engaging in such behavior - let me guess - you think that was funny, right?
--- Quote from: sw ---And what the hell does "baking" mean?
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Hmmm - I believe it means 'cooking' with heat.
--- Quote from: sw ---I can hear your voices talking behind these words. Can you hear me? RI "came to me," is translated as either "I don't go trolling," or "I have been working in painful isolation. I don't reach out to while away the hours"
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What do you mean you can 'hear your voices' - is that literal? It also seems that 'came to me' means - by your definition - visited your website? Please correct me if I'm wrong - but if so, that's a rather interesting definition, especially when used as a defense against pushing your own agenda on another site. Perhaps you should put up a disclaimer on your web site stating that any visitor has 'come to you' thus you are free to return the favor and interact any way you see fit? It might cut down on confusion.
The painful isolation aspect is rather well understood, however - most truth seekers do find themselves at that point sooner or later, until they learn to network effectively.
--- Quote from: sw ---I can tell you I believe whole-heartedly in every word I've ever written, especially the mistakes. and if that reads as "agenda pushing," or "abusive language," or "an inability to discuss and share in a manner befitting normal human beings,"
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Apologies, but are you saying that you do not consider the language you used to be abusive? Are you also stating that you believe - especially - the mistakes you have written?
--- Quote from: sw ---to you, then I guess somewhere along the line I'll figure out what the spending the last half-hour of my life was worth. But not here. And not now.
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I'm a bit confused by this last part - are you stating that this is the 'last half hour of your life' - as in you are going to commit suicide? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, and I hope that I am, because committing suicide over getting banned by a website is indicative of much deeper problems and much deeper pain than we are able to deal with here. If this is the case, all I can suggest is that you hold on until tomorrow - just one more night. See how things seem tomorrow and look into getting some support - no one can do this alone.
If this was another sarcastic joke of yours, then it's still not a bad idea to get some support.
Perceval:
--- Quote from: beau ---stevenwarren displayed a complete inability to control his emotions and communicate in a civil manner. He also was taking up the time of others to try and get him to calm down. He did not show any ability to do that, so he has been banned.
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More than that, he was clearly not suited to this forum given his statement:
--- Quote from: stevewarren ---I can tell you I believe whole-heartedly in every word I've ever written, especially the mistakes.
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Joe
Ottershrew:
Hi everyone
I've sent Steven an email (and if you're reading this, Steven, check your email!) trying to explain some things about this forum, which he may not have appreciated before.
Agreed - Steven did a great job of losing his temper - and at this stage, at any rate, he proved rather too volatile for this place.
--- Quote from: stevenwarran ---I can tell you I believe whole-heartedly in every word I've ever written, especially the mistakes. and if that reads as "agenda pushing," or "abusive language," or "an inability to discuss and share in a manner befitting normal human beings," to you, then I guess somewhere along the line I'll figure out what the spending the last half-hour of my life was worth. But not here. And not now.
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I don't understand that point about believing especially in the mistakes one makes. I guess it might mean "je ne regrette rien" or something of the sort, i.e. one's mistakes are especially useful because it's through them that we learn useful life-changing lessons. I imagine that's what he means. After all, you couldn't yourself call them mistakes unless you had learnt that they were mistakes. But there's not much clarity here ...
I hope he learns something from this incident. Which he might - but, as he says, "... not here. And not now." If I've read it right, it seems to be his choice that he moves on - as well as that of the administrators.
For what it's worth, Anart, I don't imagine he's considering suicide, or even making a joke about it. After all, why would he say he would later figure out what significance this last half-hour of his life had (presumably the one he spent on the forum, not his last ever), if he was dead?
Perceval:
--- Quote from: Ottershrew ---Hi everyone
I've sent Steven an email (and if you're reading this, Steven, check your email!) trying to explain some things about this forum, which he may not have appreciated before.
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I can't say I agree with your decision to email him, mainly because he gave no indication that he was interested in having the rules of the forum explained to him. As I see it, all he wanted was to be right. If I were you I would prepare myself for a response email that is full of attacks on sott and justifications of his position, all with a large helping of "poor me".
In short, a direct experience with a "right man"
http://www.rightmansyndrome.com/
Joe
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