Evil Genes - by Barbara Oakley

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I've been reading this book over the last few days. Quite intriguing really. Essentially it purports to be an investigation into machivellian personalities, inspired by the author's sister, who sounds like a fully fledged psychopath to me. Much of the material is quite technical and relates to brain chemistry and biology. There is a strong focus on borderline personality disorders and ao studies on psychopathy and machievellian personalities and whether there is a similarity between these types, ar they in fact the same. She says not. Interesting that she does not reference the more common material on psychopaths - Marth Stout, O'Hare etc - though.

A lot of the material was really interesting but every so often something comes up which smacks me in the face as clear and obvious cointel. There are a number of examples but the most striking one is when she mentions the 911 conspiracy debunk done by Popular Mechanics. She talks about how the authors of this article discovered that people "prone to Conspiracy Theories" are incapable of changing their views even when confronted by clear evidence to the contrary (makes me wonder if she ever read the PM article or ever investigated any of the 911 theories). That is also very strange as the rest of the material is well researched and exhaustively documented and yet she slips in material like the 911 stuff, perhaps so that people will assume that she has investigated this material deeply as well).

All in all, I would not recommend the book, the mix of truth and lies is a bit too well done for my liking.
 
Another instance of questionable comment relates to Chile. The author is dismissive of the Allende socialist government and has praise for Pinochet who despite his Machiavellian behaviour, she says, achieved an economic miracle in Chile.

Overall, the conclusion the author arrives at is that people with Machiavellian tendencies, people with borderline personality issues, people with psychopathic tendencies cannot be blamed for choosing their actions according to their free will, as they are constrained by biological shortcomings - they are either born that way or their condition is caused by some medical trauma. The author posits that the consequences of this type of behaviour is not all bad and that we indeed need people with Machiavellian and narcissistic traits for progress and developments to be achieved in many areas of life.

This was an interesting read, but at best with some deeply flawed conclusions and at worst a case of flagrant cointel, OSIT.
 
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Sounds like cointelpro to me. But then, we expected it when we brought out Ponerology.
 
She talks about how the authors of this article discovered that people "prone to Conspiracy Theories" are incapable of changing their views even when confronted by clear evidence to the contrary
lol and here I was thinking that it's the opposite - people prone to believing "authority" declarations without questioning them because of their emotional investment in said declarations are the ones incapable of changing their views even when confronted by clear evidence to the contrary, at least not without a powerful enough shock. Boy, was I wrong on that one! :P
 
Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

CSPAN had Barbara Oakley on discussing her book 'Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed and My Sister Stole My Mother's Boyfriend'. I thought it might be interesting to review or discuss the book, although I have not read it yet myself.
 
Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

I saw her on CSPAN yesterday.

She glossed over the fact that her sister had no empathy or compassion. Seems to me her sister is a psychopath but she was unwilling to look at that angle. Instead, she seemed to find excuses for her.
 
Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

I have considered writing a lengthy review of her book. In fact, I think I should do so. It'll take me perhaps a month or two, but I think the book warrants some heavy criticism, despite its good aspects.

In short, her book is a polemic against every "evil" government, which happens to mean "everyone but the good and proud US of A". In other words, "It's OK when we do it, but not anyone else."
 
Re: Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

I'm listening to Barbara Oakley on Coast to Coast... right now she's amping up the 'high intellect' of leaders such as Stalin, Hitler, Clinton. She didn't factor in or relate how the psychopaths 'intellect' is mostly made up of lies. She doesn't seem to have an accurate knowledge of the subject as, imo, she's overlapping narcissism, borderline personality and psychopathy in the interview. She did go into gaslighting, but all in all the interview seems to fit right in with Coast to Coast. I'm left wondering if she's even read the basic literature on psychopathy.
 
Re: Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

Los said:
I'm listening to Barbara Oakley on Coast to Coast... right now she's amping up the 'high intellect' of leaders such as Stalin, Hitler, Clinton. She didn't factor in or relate how the psychopaths 'intellect' is mostly made up of lies. She doesn't seem to have an accurate knowledge of the subject as, imo, she's overlapping narcissism, borderline personality and psychopathy in the interview. She did go into gaslighting, but all in all the interview seems to fit right in with Coast to Coast. I'm left wondering if she's even read the basic literature on psychopathy.

She HAS read the basic literature, which is the amazing thing. The problem is that her views are entirely "unilevel" to use Dabrowski's term. She's presents no understanding of multilevelness, real conscience, psychoneurosis. If I get time sometime next year, I'll review her book.
 
Re: Evil Genes: Why Rome Fell, Hitler Rose, Enron Failed...

I just listened to Barabara discussing her latest book pathological altruism, co-authored by three other people/ Sounds like a must read.
http://www.amazon.ca/Pathological-Altruism-Barbara-Oakley/dp/0199738572
 
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