Group of Eight, Cashless Society and the Mark of the Beast

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Reading this article - A New Bretton Woods, NWO style: EU, US call for a global summit to reshape banking - I couldn't help but think that the long prophesied "cashless society" is in the works. Naturally, observing global events plunging headlong into the abyss of disaster can be a bit depressing. That prompted me to revisit a session with the Cs from 14 years ago - the time when they were pretty clearly outlining in broad strokes, our future. Time and again they have proven to be startlingly accurate even if they don't pin anything down to specific dates, so maybe we should take another look at this session which just happens to be dated 14 years ago TO THE DAY.

16 October 1994

Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book of
Revelation?
A: Visa.
Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?
Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to
disconnect ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn't just credit also debit.
Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?
Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have you
not heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future
of money as controlled by the world banking system i.e.
the brotherhood i.e. Lizards i.e. antichrist.

Q: (L) If I don't have a credit card then I don't have to
belong to this system?
A: No. You will have no choices: belong or starve.
Q: (L) What happened to free will?
A: Brotherhood aka Lizards aka antichrist has interfered with
free will for 309000 years. They are getting desperate as
we near the change.

Q: (V) It has always been my nature to rebel against that
which I did not feel was good for me. Is rebellion
against this system possible?
A: If you are willing to leave the body.
Q: (L) Leave the body as in death, croak, kick the bucket?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If we were to move...
A: Changes will follow turmoil be patient.
Q: (L) We would like to move into the country. Will it be
possible to get along without this credit/debit card
leading that kind of life?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are they going to have the kind of capability of
controlling everything and everybody no matter where they
are?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Even if we moved to Guyana and built a log hut in the
rain forest and didn't bother anybody, we'd still get
sucked into this thing?
A: Laura you will feel the effect of the Lizard beings
desperate push for total control no matter where you go.

Q: (L) That is inexpressibly depressing. Do you understand?
A: Why? Change will follow.
Q: (L) Will it follow soon?
A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature "Bringers of
the Dawn". Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper
perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level
reality, understand?
Q: (L) In the reference cited, Joan of Arc is described as
feeling ecstatic while burning at the stake. Is that what
you mean?
A: Sort of, but you need not burn at the stake.
Q: (L) That's small comfort. There's other ways to die.
A: We are not speaking of death, Laura. If you listen to those
who are firmly rooted in 3rd level this is when you run the
risk of slipping in your knowledge learned no matter how good
the intentions...
Q: (L) What do you mean "Challenge will be ecstasy"? What
sort of challenge?
A: Living through the turmoil ahead.
Q: (L) Several books I have read have advised moving to rural
areas and forming groups and storing food etc...
A: Disinformation. Get rid of this once and for all. That
is 3rd level garbage.
Q: (L) We feel pretty helpless at the mercy of beings who can
come in and feed off of us at will. Do we have someone on
our side, pulling for our team, throwing us energy or
something?
A: Who do you think you have been communicating with?
Q: (L) Are you going to be able to assist us through this
turmoil?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are you going to?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) If we call, can we get your assistance?
A: All you have to do is ask.
Q: (L) Will we go through any periods when we may be cut off
from help?
A: You are never ever cut off.
Q: (L) Oh, I don't want to suffer!
A: You need not suffer. Stop thinking 3rd level.
Q: (L) I don't want anybody I love to suffer either. I don't
want any pain. I've suffered enough!
A: You are stuck at 3rd level tonight.
Q: (L) It's not just that. There is so much disinformation
you just don't know who to believe... I mean, how do we
know we can believe you? There are so many sources out
there deceiving and they do it so cleverly. Look at the
Bible... for 2,000 years people have been believing
that...
A: They deceive when you allow it.
Q: (L) I know you are supposed to take some things on
faith... but, do you see my problem here?
A: Yes, but you don't.
Q: (L) What is my problem?
A: Mental block.
Q: (L) In the recent past you indicated that chapter 24 of
Matthew and chapter 21 of Luke, were given by Jesus after
his extended sleep state. Now, both of those chapters
refer to the present time as being like the days of Noah.
Is that a correct assessment?
A: In a sense and individual events are as yet undetermined.
Q: (L) Well, the story of Noah tells us that Noah was told to
build an ark.
A: Symbolic.
Q: (L) Yet Noah built an ark. Was it true that certain
individuals, whoever they were, built boats or did things
to survive that terrible cataclysm?
A: No. Look at it this way. Noah built a boat because it
seemed like an enjoyable enterprise and when the flood
came it came in handy, see?

Q: (L) So, you are saying that if we do what we do because we
enjoy it that we will be in the right place at the right
time, doing the right thing when whatever happens happens,
right?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are you saying that we will be led to do what we
should be doing and be where we should be?
A: You will just fall into it but if you force things you run
the risk of going astray.

{...}
Q: (L) Let's go back to the subject of the beast and the
number 666. You say that following the enforcement of
control by the Lizzies on the entire world that the change
is going to take place, is that correct?

A: Yes.
Q: (L) How long following?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Several prophetic works have said that this period is
going to last 6.3 or 7 years. Is that correct?
A: Open.
Q: (L) On the subject of the 666, I was given an insight into
this several years ago as to another meaning of it, is
that interpretation also correct?
A: Maybe. VI is 6 in Roman Numerals. S was 6 in ancient
Egypt. A was 6 in Sanskrit. VISA, see, is 666.
Interesting that to travel for extended periods one needs
a "visa" also, yes?

Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I
stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of
the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he
had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his
heads..." What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents
universal control of whole units of value.

Q: (L) So, the ten horns represent units of value, so we are
talking about money here. What are the blasphemous titles
on his heads?
A: In God we trust.
Q: (L) "And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard..."
A: New World Order.
Q: (L) "And to him the dragon gave his might and power and
great dominion..." Who is the dragon?
A: Read again please.
Q: (L) "And the beast I saw resembled a leopard..." What does
the leopard signify?
A: Leopard is fast moving and distinctly patterned.
Q: (L) "His feet were like those of a bear..." what do the
feet represent?
A: Russia.
Q: (L) Why are the feet like those of a bear?
A: Hidden power center in that geographic location.
Q: (L) What nature this power center?
A: Same as USA. Feet are not so easily seen.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly
united?

A: Under same control.
Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?
A: At the root.
Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth
represent and why is it like a lions?
A: Noisy and boastful.
Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to
manifest?
A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands
attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about
a new world order?

Q: (L) The United States?
A: Close. Elements of same.
Q: (L) "One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but
his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after
the beast in amazement and admiration..." What does it
mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the
Beast?
A: Initially.
Q: (L) "But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth
went after the Beast with amazement and admiration..."
What does this mean?
A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.
Q: (L) "They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because
he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and
authority..." Who is this dragon?
A: World Body Politic.
Q: (L) And who is this Beast?
A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka
antichrist.

Q: (L) "The Beast was given the power of speech uttering
boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to
exert his authority and exercise his will during 42
months..."
A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in
terms of audio and video media.
Q: (L) "And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God
blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those
who live in heaven..." Does this mean that this group,
this beast are going to...
A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging
worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.
Q: (L) "He was further permitted to wage war on God's holy
people and to overcome them and power was given him to
extend his authority over every tribe and people and every
tongue and nation..." Does this means trials and
tribulations of those who refuse to submit?
A: No. See previous answer.
Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down
in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded
from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of
the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation
of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded
in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?
A: Supercomputer.
Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name
has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who
are going to worship the Beast are names that have not
been recorded... does that mean that there is a
supercomputer recording the names of those who do not
worship the beast?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?
A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient
or disobedient.
Q: (L) Who is this "Lamb?"
A: Beast.
Q: (L) "If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever
leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if
anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be
slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity
of the saints (God's people)... "Who are God's people?
A: All.
Q: (L) What does it mean: "Whoever leads into captivity will
go into captivity?"
A: Follow the leader.
Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and
if they fight with the leader they will be killed?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land;
he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a
dragon..." What does this signify?
A: Other faces of the same entity.
Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb?
A lamb doesn't have horns. Why does it say he has horns?
A: Confusion by contradiction.
Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent?
A: Same face of the Beast.
Q: (L) What does it mean he "spoke like a dragon"??
A: Same.
Q: (L) "He exerts all the power and right of control as the
former beast in his presence and causes the earth and
those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose
deadly wound was healed and worship him..." Well, it seems
to say that there is a second beast that is different from
the first beast but you are saying that it is just another
face of the beast...

A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another;
government another et cetera.

Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the
beast?

A: As represented by religion.
Q: (L) "He performs great signs, startling miracles, even
making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men's
sight.." What does that mean?
A: Aliens perform "miracles".
Q: (L) And what is the "image" of the Beast?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword
and still live?
A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.
Q: (L) "And he was permitted to impart the breath of life
into the Beast's image so that the statue of the beast
could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death
that would not bow down and worship the image of the
beast." What does this mean?
A: Total control once deception is complete.
Q: (L) "Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and
poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on
their right hand or on their foreheads...." What is this
inscription?
A: Visa ID number.
Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our
bodies?
A: Encoded.
Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct
people?
A: No.
Q: (L) How is it going to be done?
A: Stamped.
Q: (L) By what technical means?
A: Electronic encoding. A series of numbers.
Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or embed them
in the skin on our heads or hand...?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand
on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of
monetary transaction?
A: Precisely.
Q: (L) Okay, it says: "Here is room for discernment, a call
for the wisdom of interpretation, let him who has
intelligence, penetration, insight enough calculate the
number of the Beast, for it is a human number, the number
of a certain man, his number is 666. What does this mean?
A: Visa as explained previously. Everyone will get their own
number and it will be a Visa number, the number of the
Beast.
Q: (L) "Then I looked and Lo! the lamb stood on Mount Zion
and with him 144,000 men who had his name and his father's
name inscribed on their foreheads..." What does that mean?
A: ID. The Lamb is the Leadership council of the world bank.
Many will think they are taking the "mark" of God when
actually being marked by the Beast.

Q: (L) "And I heard a voice from Heaven like the sound of
great waters and like the rumbling of might thunder and
the voice I heard seemed like the music of harpists
accompanying themselves on their harps..." What is this
voice from heaven and the sound like great waters and
mighty thunder?
A: The return of Christ.
Q: (L) "And they sing a new song... No one could learn to
sing that song except the 144,000 who had been ransomed
from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of
the world bank and here it says they have been ransomed
from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the
144,000 have not defiled themselves by relations with
women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who
follow the Lamb wherever he goes...they have been
ransomed..."
A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate
point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends to encourage
elitism and divisiveness.
Q: (L) Are the 144,000 good guys or bad guys as we would term
them?
A: Both. But they are ones who have supreme knowledge.
Q: (L) Are these human beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) There will be 144,000 people on the earth who have
supreme knowledge?
A: Approximately.
Q: (L) Now, this 144,000, are we among that number? Just
curious.
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) "No lie was found to be upon their lips for they are
blameless, spotless, untainted without blemish. And I saw
another angel flying in midair with an eternal gospel to
tell to the inhabitants of the earth, every race and tribe
and people, and he cried with a mighty voice: Revere God
and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has
arrived, fall down before him, pay him homage and
adoration and worship him who created heaven and earth and
the sea and the springs of water..." What does this tell
us?
A: Added later by questionable source.
Q: (L) "Then a second angel followed declaring: Fallen,
fallen is Babylon the Great, she who made all nations
drink of the wine of her passionate unchastity..." Who is
Babylon and what does it mean she has fallen?
A: Same as previous answer.
Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty
voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits
his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too
shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and
wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he
shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence
of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so
that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.

Q: (L) "Again I looked and lo! I saw a white cloud and
sitting on the cloud one resembling a son of man with a
crown of gold on his head and a sharp scythe in his
hand..." Is that further additions?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Another angel came out of the temple saying with a
mighty voice to the one sitting on the cloud: put in your
scythe and reap for the hour has arrived to gather the
harvest for the earth's crop is fully ripened..."
A: More fear based disinformation.
Q: (L) Now, I have compared certain passages of Revelations
to the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, were those sections
accurate in what they describe?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those are events that will transpire after the
Lizzies have done their thing, after the Visa is in place,
and before or after Christ returns?
A: Before.
Q: (L) So the cluster of comets is going to come before the
return of Christ??

A: Yes. But return is just one event not the whole thing.
Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet
and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body
simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster
of comets and the earth.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?
A: As part of the whole.
Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets
activity?
A: After.
Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.
Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to
receive this teaching?
A: Open.
Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.
Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of
the whole as though there is some important thing that I
am missing the question to discover. Consider that
question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.
Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen
before the comets or after?

A: After.
Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth
going to....

A: Precede the transition.
Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.
Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with
electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the
atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and
then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.
Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing
around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to
do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a
new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ
comes?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media,
television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to
this transition, going to leave in large groups with the
Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving
into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with
the Lizzies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on
the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.
Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from
time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from
time to time?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced
population, people here and people there, none of whom are
totally united on the planet?
 
Laura said:
That prompted me to revisit a session with the Cs from 14 years ago - the time when they were pretty clearly outlining in broad strokes, our future.


Laura, As I understand you are still in comunication with Cass, is it still a clear comunication? I know you are not publishing some info in order to not to interfere in our own decisions, but it seems as if you were having difficulties and you felt overwhelmed, Is it a wrong perception?
 
ana said:
Laura said:
That prompted me to revisit a session with the Cs from 14 years ago - the time when they were pretty clearly outlining in broad strokes, our future.


Laura, As I understand you are still in comunication with Cass, is it still a clear comunication? I know you are not publishing some info in order to not to interfere in our own decisions, but it seems as if you were having difficulties and you felt overwhelmed, Is it a wrong perception?

You can read a recent session (3 september 2008) here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.0
 
Thanks for this Laura. I remember reading it when I first found the site, it was odd seeing the Visa poster adverts on the train station advertising doing away with 'cash'. If I could find a picture of them I would post them here.
This time however reading it hit me like...well I don't know what. Things I've read before but have reread in the last month seem to be having a greater impact.
To read it and almost see it on the horizon, I know the futures open but it was incredibly tangable...the utter sense of sinking dispair and forboding.
It did dawn on me however that with the right attitude and knowledge the whole situation offers a rather intense learning curve. I've no idea if that thought is a buffer, but it filled me with hope and excitement at the same time as forboding and dispair!
Is that what the C's mean when they say learning is fun?
Alternatively I'm going nuts :/ hmm

I read this before going to bed, woke up at 4am with my mind racing. After some rather sad/depressing thoughts I think I had my first victory (until I though 'I think I had my first victory'). Having dispair mixed with a feeling of elation is very very strange. I need to reread the thread on the first victory.

Apologies for the rambling post, but I feel like I've just been through the washing machine on spin cycle and want to check I'm not going loopy.
 
I know I've said this before, but here it is. Back in the 60's my gramma (mamaw), used to tell me about hill folk prophesy. Although illiterate, she quoted the bible extensively. She was born a little after the American civil war, had 13 children and lived deep in them mountains in moonshine country. There was a church at the head of the holler (one lane dirt road twisting through the mountains). She lived at the end of the holler, 5 miles deep into no man's land. That Church was a good ole fire and brimstone teaching to FEAR god. And I mean FEAR, big time. But anyway, she told me that:

Someday soon, there ain't gonn be no money. You're gonna haveta have the mark of the devil to live. Like a tattoo. And without that tattoo, you ain't gonna be able to buy nuthin'. You won't be able to sell nuthin'. You ain't gonna get a job without it. All who ain't got that tattoo are gonna be rounded up...
;) ;) ;)
We will see won't we.?.?.?
That has stuck with me all my life. I wish I would've written down all the hill folk stuff she told me. :(

edit: I gotta get used to using spell check. ;)

correction: My sister and I, last weekend, counted 18 Aunts & Uncles. ;D
 
RedFox said:
It did dawn on me however that with the right attitude and knowledge the whole situation offers a rather intense learning curve. I've no idea if that thought is a buffer, but it filled me with hope and excitement at the same time as foreboding and despair! .... Having despair mixed with a feeling of elation is very very strange....

You have described my state of mind over the last month or so. At any given moment I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or scream in terror....

:lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol: :scared: :lol:
 
This part struck me as never before:
Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.
It seems to me that this is what so many "patriot" types are encouraging, open resistance sometimes including violence. So they may be the "angel" cited, helping to bring the violent types out into the open where they can be picked off. We know that once you engage in open battle with the PTB, you're done for. As John Lennon said, "Once they have you violent, they know how to handle you." Being violent or anything close would not be "wise as a serpent." In fact, I'm sure the PTB would like a little violence to keep us all scared and provide a pretext for the presence of open, visible police-state apparatus.

So, it seems to me that the C's are suggesting non-resistance to the changes to be handed down from the banksters, because resistance is an express ticket to 5th density. Rather, we should engage fully in the "challenge" of surviving this time of turmoil.

Now, I wonder about this supercomputer that records all as obedient or disobedient. What exactly constitutes "disobedient?" Any guessers out there?
 
Here's a video about the cashless society to come. Make sure to stay tuned til the end. The final ad says it all.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9ZO_QOzb8
 
PopHistorian said:
So, it seems to me that the C's are suggesting non-resistance to the changes to be handed down from the banksters, because resistance is an express ticket to 5th density. Rather, we should engage fully in the "challenge" of surviving this time of turmoil.

And perhaps also providing information who CHOOSES to hear. :D
 
I'm getting confused as to what we are supposed to do. I know violence it not the answer, this would make things worse by feeding the bad guys. I don't think cooperation with the PTB is the answer either as this will just lead to more slavery. Perhaps non violent refusal to play the game is the answer, of coarse this will lead to starvation or getting taken off to a concentration camp. Is it important for us to survive this turmoil? I thought the body matters not.
 
Hi Michael,
These are trying times indeed and the one thing that you can definitely do is increase your knowledge. Confusion sometimes is a very good sign because it precedes understanding! I certainly feel the same confusion and the thought that immediately comes to mind is that nothing really matters anymore......However, the fact that you can see the writing on the wall and watch the movie as the plot unfolds puts you in a much better position than somebody who wakes up to find themselves a TOTAL slave to the system with no idea of how they got there and no hope of escape whatsoever. As you watch the evil machinations unfolding, you will also be learning, and maybe somewhere down the road, an escape hatch will open up ever so briefly. Those who are awake, aware and able will choose to exit.
 
Al Today wrote: << And perhaps also providing information who CHOOSES to hear. >>

Yes, this is your "service" to others. The point in staying alive isn't to serve self, but to preserve your usefulness to STO cause.
 
I've read other opinions about sott & cass, saying that it's all gloom n doom, meant to promote fear. I don't get that at all, esp. from this excerpt. The C's aren't saying 'resist at all costs!' They don't state one must be a martyr to make it. So get the stamp. So what? One must survive & provide for one's family, right? My take on it is to get thru it as best as you can, staying vigilant & making the best choices you can in a given moment. Does anyone else interpret it this way? Or am I totally off, and fighting the system because that's the 'right' thing to do is the answer? Somehow I don't think so.
 
Amazing how this situation could turn into a veritable fork of paths. We either resist in some kind of Don Quixotic way and probably get killed right of the bat, but die with a free conscious (and perhaps in the end that can do us no good), or we submit with knowledge of what is happening, others submit totally without knowing what hit them, still others could submit with hope that they can implode the system from inside, etc. Lots of different gradations.
But perhaps none of them could be wrong, or at least totally wrong, because, and I will give an example, someone that as a kids for example, if he/she being a normal person, will always think first about their children and will have to do some sacrifices bowing down to the PTB and their control society. And for example someone that has no family could put himself in a lot riskier situation to confront the PTB.

Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty
voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits
his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too
shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and
wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he
shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence
of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so
that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.

If someone has the knowledge of what is really happening and still tries to resist, without having fear or any negative emotions, (from which the aliens could feed on) just some kind of intense will to stand up to something that is wrong, could this be wrong in light of our/this forum working hypotheses?
In the bottom line it could be tied down to the attitude in dealing with the situation. Never losing the amazement, and possibilities to learn from our troubled times.

P.S. Just wanted to be clear that I don't endorse any specific path, just giving examples, I too don't known what to do, or what path to choose when and if the time comes.
 
Doom and Gloom? I could already sense much of the Doom and Gloom (at least in terms of this physical world). I had already come up against some of the lies and ended up in "the void" (more later, i am working on a more comprehensive post for a new thread)

What I have found here at SOTT is Hope. Hope for the first time in many years. Finally, I find some information that makes sense of my life and the world around me!

To sense the Doom and Gloom, but be unable to define it, is anxiety producing. To find information that makes sense of it is freeing. At least, this is my experience.
 

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