DonaldJHunt said:
Look, if it's on TV it's COINTELPRO. The Revolution will not be televised. This is a given.
I think we can all take that to the bank. Maybe we should print this quote and past it in front of our TV's to keep reminding ourselves.
DonaldJHunt said:
With TV, you take what you can get.
Yes, but I think we should always keep in mind that "what you can get" may just be what they want you to get.
DonaldJHunt said:
IMO, what the fact that he was invited indicates is that there is a civil war going on behind the scenes in the U.S. power structure. Between those who want to run the Empire in a more rational way for longer term power and those who want to roll the dice on Armageddon. There is an ongoing attempt of a coup d'etat to force the neocons out and it may be that Bush's father is on one side and Bush on the other. There is a reason why Fitzgerald is still pursuing his indictments, that the retired generals are saying what they are saying. This would never happen if the ruling class were united. This is how STS hierarchies work, with real, bitter rivalries and competition at each level. Doesn't mean there isn't unity at the level above the competition. The fact that the war in Iraq was a massive, complete failure from the point of view of the United States empire (if not of the Powers that Be, it may be a big success for the real power brokers) means that some groups will want the people who pushed it to be replaced. IMO, this is more than just a show of fake opposition to keep people diverted, real power is at stake. But I could be wrong.
I think you are right.
I believe the C's mentioned somewhere that things often come in 3's. So it pays to make an inclusive assessment in that manner. There seem to be two polarized STS forces in this government and one umbrella over-faction that contains both of them, which most likely transcends anyone IN government.
You know, Pathocrats like to think, and convince others, that they are always in control. But today there are so many variables, non-linearities and complex combinations of events that I doubt any think tank can come out with a definitive plan. In such an instance I believe STS tends to resort to their fundamental primal foundations.
In other words: survival of the fittest. When you don't know which dog to back, just set them against each other and choose the survivor. Any Lucifer-worshipping Pathocrat would probably think in such a manner, IMO: Let the "Master" decide. STS tends to use this "may the best man win/ritual combat" pattern to make many of its choices when strategic predictions don't work.
So we may want to see these developments in terms of such ritual combat, where the stakes are high, and the loosers may well be the next scape-goats, since I doubt the winners will want them around. I think the people are merely a secondary audience to this boxing match. The umbrella STS group is probably for whom the match is really staged. And since the Pathocrats think economically and in terms of killing as many birds with as few stones as possible, this also serves to keep people entranced thinking its all about THEM and THEIR freedom.
At the same time, we may also consider that the umbrella faction may be prone to support one side over the other, and I do not think this is the Armaggedonist side. That may be considered to be a rabid dog that will have to be put down, but always in a manner that will serve the PLAN (such as UN intervention in US affairs).
And even if they back the "realists", the realists will still have to prove themselves in the eye's of their masters, or they may be considered to weak to carry the STS torch.