Libel and Defamation Against SOTT, Cass, LKJ, QFG, etc

So many years of such dedication and so much time spent on these attacks. Who is paying these folks? WHere does V.B. get money from anyway?

I've watching this off and on for so many years, always "cult cult cult". So many websites and blogs dedicated to one thing: Keeping you away from Laura Knight Jadczyk cause YOU can't decide for YOURSELF, V.B. and company need to tell you the facts. :rolleyes:
 
Yet another defaming thread on the icke forum, but this one has an unusual twist...a senior member of the forum going by "neutrino" is claiming his/her dad has been "Brainwashed" by the Cass group.

Anyone know what this might be about?


_http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059535744

22-12-2010, 08:40 PM #1
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"The Cassiopaea cult

Hi

I'm just sending out a cult warning because being forwarned is being forarmed

The Cassiopaea cult which also goes under the name of

Quantum Future School

Fellowship of the Cosmic mind

Sign of the Times

Anything to do with Laura knight Jadczyk

These cult members hang around alternative conferences selling their cult bible 'The Wave' trying to recruit new members, they use all sorts of tactics such as lovebombing. They will go so far as to start a relationship with you to get you in. Once you are in it is very difficult to leave they use scare tactics and character assassination.

They usually pray on vunerable people

Look out for them and avoid them as much as possible!

_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/truth2.php
_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/ "


22-12-2010, 08:41 PM #2
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I'm trying to keep the awareness up as they destroy peoples lives

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Hi

I'm just sending out a cult warning because being forwarned is being forarmed

The Cassiopaea cult which also goes under the name of

Quantum Future School

Fellowship of the Cosmic mind

Sign of the Times

Anything to do with Laura knight Jadczyk

These cult members hang around alternative conferences selling their cult bible 'The Wave' trying to recruit new members, they use all sorts of tactics such as lovebombing. They will go so far as to start a relationship with you to get you in. Once you are in it is very difficult to leave they use scare tactics and character assassination.

They usually pray on vunerable people

Look out for them and avoid them as much as possible!

_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/truth2.php
_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/
that bad, some of the stuff on sott.net is very good
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Yep, its one of the ways they draw you in...."


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Closed his mind for a start to anything but what the Cassios say. "
 
Thanks for highlighting this Guardian. Unfortunately without more data like an IP or an email address, it would be difficult to find out who these characters are. I wouldn't be surprised if they are part of the VB crowd.
 
Guardian said:
Yet another defaming thread on the icke forum, but this one has an unusual twist...a senior member of the forum going by "neutrino" is claiming his/her dad has been "Brainwashed" by the Cass group.

Anyone know what this might be about?
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Hmm Yorkshire, that's my neck of the woods, almost. If someone on the forum has a son or daughter in that area, maybe you let the mods know offline, just to clear things up. Anyway what came to mind.... does anyone remember the attack surrounding 'shoutwire' a few years back. I can't remember the details now but at the time I remember noting the little flag that goes up when someone shouts about something. I checked the map and found the flag located in 'Black Park' an area not far from Skipton. (Yorkshire dales). That person was also on David Icke forum, and another one, and had a lot to say. I don't know how accurate the shout flags are but mine were always pretty accurate, anyway this one in black park was the middle of a moor. Just throwing that in as it came to mind.

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Guardian said:
Yet another defaming thread on the icke forum, but this one has an unusual twist...a senior member of the forum going by "neutrino" is claiming his/her dad has been "Brainwashed" by the Cass group.

Anyone know what this might be about?

_http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059535744

22-12-2010, 08:40 PM #1
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"The Cassiopaea cult

Hi

I'm just sending out a cult warning because being forwarned is being forarmed

The Cassiopaea cult which also goes under the name of

Quantum Future School

Fellowship of the Cosmic mind

Sign of the Times

Anything to do with Laura knight Jadczyk

These cult members hang around alternative conferences selling their cult bible 'The Wave' trying to recruit new members, they use all sorts of tactics such as lovebombing. They will go so far as to start a relationship with you to get you in. Once you are in it is very difficult to leave they use scare tactics and character assassination.

They usually pray on vunerable people

Look out for them and avoid them as much as possible!

_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/truth2.php
_http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/ "


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It seems to me that this is probably Kate Gandolfo who has put a twist in her post for "distancing", i.e. the remark about her "father." After all, she met Nomad at something like a New Age convention where he was manning a table of RPP books, she had a relationship with him that turned out to be a disaster, and she certainly feels that her "character" has been assassinated by the thread exposing her activities in respect of this group.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=20431.0

So, the clues fit, though she has turned the whole thing around and is blaming the victim for her own predatory actions.

Typical.

Added: I guess her plans to sue fell through so she has had to resort to more defamation. Her signature line fits, too.
 
Laura said:
Her signature line fits, too.
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Actually, I think the signature line belongs to the other member who says his dad has been brainwashed. That being said, this sure does sound like Kate. Here is a follow-up post from the same thread:

Neutrino just wondering, does your Dad show signs of stress, confusion, depression. The people I have met in cassiopaea seem to be in a pretty fragile state they alternate between extreame Superiority to total self depreciation. Like bi-polar but it different.

They also seem to have something 'missing' in them that you can't connect to, like a normal persons sense of what is right and wrong is not there. In most cults it seems to be ok to lie to anyone outside of the group. They are also paranoid of everyone outside the group and fear the leadership and spy on each other.

Control seems to be gained through hypnosis and I have heard it is possible to get people dehypnotised back to their original state. But there are other layers of re-programming.

They put massive focus on pathology making them totally paranoid of anyone outside the group

The use of the enneagram - what they refer to as 'The Work' the SS used the same tool. _http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/intro.asp

They believe humans are machines and all emotion is manipulation, and you have to earn your soul, therefore becoming a machine themselves.

Plus spinning 33 times x 3 per day, meditation and breathing, all this takes up a great deal of time and it self absorbing as you are constantly anylysing yourself and other peoples reactions.

They seem to be artificially creating psychopaths - robots, devoid of any human emotion.


An organization that uses intensive indoctrination techniques to recruit and maintain members into a totalist ideology.

Intensive indoctrination techniques include:
1) Subjection to stress and fatigue
2) Social disruption, isolation and pressure
3) Self criticism and humiliation
4) Fear, anxiety and paranoia
5) Control of information
6) Escalating commitment
7) Use of auto-hypnosis to induce ‘peak’ experiences


One line I read on their forum is ' remember you are here because you can't trust the way you think' !!!!

Also you are not allowed to have a relationship with anyone unless you 'network' it first !!!!

If you are already in a relationship and your partner is not involved they will persecute the partner.

They even make you paranoid of your own family, this is all to gain total control over their lives.


Their overall ambition 'carrot' is to attain 4th density which they very much suggest you have to be celibate.


Scary stuff
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Added: Oh, and lookee -- the post you made here was on December 21, and the first post that was made on the David Icke thread was on December 22. Pretty quick turn-around!
 
Since I seem to have still a working account on the Icke forum (haven't been active there since I joined this forum), I thought I'd check out what's going on.

Well, it sure seems that 'explorer' is our gal, here are a few of her posts(from the thread: Are you ready for ascension?), explorers comments highlighted in blue:

explorer;1059554796 said:
I am sorry Cooperlee

I remember being pretty freaked out when I first stumbled on all this. I recently met someone who took this meditation to extreame and part of her just wasn't there, it just seemed like something was missing. She also seemed very confused so I started looking at the negative side to meditation and really didn't expect to find this demonic link.

I used to laugh when priests said no yoga / meditation classes in church, because it just sounds so ridiculous but maybe it isn't.

Nirvana, I agree with you, the safest place is no gods and no programmes, I'm still out on the meditation, but I do know the nwo is pushing the new age religion and they have a big focus on meditation.

This is a good information source on this: False Dawn
The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-World Religion by Lee Penn

_http://www.leepenn.org/FalseDawn.html
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explorer;1059554878 said:
I always think its a good idea to look at things a bit deeper rather then accept what I see on the surface, I'm just sharing another side to meditation and the New Age Religion. To truely understand whats happening around you you have to look at all angles surely.

A few months ago I would of thought that meditation was harmless, it sounds ridiculous to think any other way but there is alot more to it then meets the eye and I have provided plenty of good references to support what I'm saying but reading can be hard work :D
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Originally Posted by explorer:
A few months ago I would of thought that meditation was harmless

neutron flux:
Do you know what meditation is?

Originally Posted by explorer:
I have provided plenty of good references to support what I'm saying

neutron flux:
No you haven't. I don't think you even know what a good reference would look like.

explorer;1059554885 said:
Neutronflux

Clearly you don't understand much about hypnosis and how it relies upon that unconscious state ;)


_http://coverthypnosis.com/category/black-hypnosis
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neutron flux;1059554896 said:
I do actually as it happens, and know a few clinical hypnotherapists, but judging by your link you seem to think that all hypnosis is bad - just like all meditation is bad. Get a clue. ;)

Edit: I should add that all hypnosis does not rely on an unconscious state.
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explorer;1059554902 said:
oh well, I'm out as its getting rude, its always impossible putting forward an alternative view with someone who argues with Frankfurt School thinking. Which is, just incase you are not aware;

critising rather then looking at content...:rolleyes:
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neutron flux;1059554908 said:
Your content is poor. You don't even understand the content matter. That's not being rude, but rather an observation displayed by your previous posts.
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explorer;1059554913 said:
You might as well say what is so bad about the One World Order. Nothing except that it is fascism on a global scale, the homogenisation of all cultures and religions, and millions have died in order to create it, and this new religion is the religion of the New World Order.
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explorer;1059554917 said:
Anything useful to say about meditation or are you just going to attack me?

As I said I'm just putting forward an alternative view I can't see why that bothers you so much, freedom of speech and all that, lighten up man
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explorer;1059554935 said:
False Dawn
The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-World Religion by Lee Penn



The interfaith movement, which began with the 1893 World’s Parliament of Religions in Chicago, has grown worldwide. Although this movement has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading us all from nationalism to ‘One World’.

The most ambitious organization in today’s interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative (URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California. Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements, and the direction they appear to be taking. The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions. The URI’s proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal Catholic theologian Hans Küng, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders of government-approved Protestant churches in the People’s Republic of China.

The interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment of ‘global governance’, and creation of a new, Earth-based ‘global spirituality’ – in effect, a one-world religion. Therefore, the URI and the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation of the New World Order: the ‘new civilization’ now proposed by Mikhail Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.

In The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, French metaphysician René Guénon spoke of the ‘anti-tradition’ (the forces of materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the ‘counter-tradition’ (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to the regime of Antichrist. The ‘anti-tradition’ weakens and dissolves traditional spiritualities, after which the ‘counter-tradition’ sets up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon’s time, as is well known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political and religious power than ever before. The ‘counter-tradition’ is making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is doing on the Left.

False Dawn painstakingly documents these trends, and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of the 21st century.
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now here;1059554939 said:
Not in meticulous detail. I'm just asking you to explain how you think they are gonna use their spirituality and meditation against us? And how it helps them to achieve global fascism? Iv'e already seen those silly/paranoid christian propaganda conspiracy videos about Blavatsky, new age, the externalisation of the hierarchy and all that... Even if it's true, I don't fear it.



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explorer;1059554942 said:
Silly :confused: what an odd thing to say

Blavatsky is not significant? Perhaps you should do some more research on her.
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explorer;1059554943 said:
Silly :confused: what an odd thing to say

Blavatsky is not significant? Perhaps you should do some more research on her.

It always amazes me how much darkness and intolerance there is in people who have 'woken up'
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explorer;1059554970 said:
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Maybe you should look into her seeing as you are so interested in meditation and kundalini she is the one who brought it to the western world after all, so I guess she has been significant in your life :D
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biblegirl;1059554974 said:
okay all this talk on meditation being a NWO conspiracy seems a bit much

meditation practices have been part of spiriuality and ancient religions since there was humanity on the planet, and it has more recently been deprived from western culture (thank you catholic church)

now that it has been making its way into our spiritually dead society, the conclusion is that it must be NWO??

I suppose I could believe the NWO would be lame enough to hijack meditation in their own way, but meditation in itself is not going to spiritually damage or demon possess anyone imo
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now here;1059554976 said:
explorer: you can't answer my simple questions?




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explorer;1059554977 said:
It was just a theory, just an alternative way of looking at things

Why are enlightened people so dark? they can't even look at alternatives without getting defensive, I did say earlier, I didn't know what to make of it of myself I was just sharing other views on meditation which are out there.

Devils advocate as it were, for people who meditate you certainly are tense :)
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I don't know how common it is to use the word 'lovebombing' in the context of recruiting, but I found it also in one of the emails of Kate G., in the Kate Gandolfo thread:

I realise you must of been just lovebombing / trying to recruit, yes I was pretty naive about this sort of thing and maybe you know what you are doing or maybe you don't. It numbs me to think that you do know.
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Shijing said:
Actually, I think the signature line belongs to the other member who says his dad has been brainwashed. That being said, this sure does sound like Kate. Here is a follow-up post from the same thread:

Neutrino just wondering, does your Dad show signs of stress, confusion, depression. The people I have met in cassiopaea seem to be in a pretty fragile state they alternate between extreame Superiority to total self depreciation. Like bi-polar but it different.
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That might describe Nomad by the time Kate got done with him. He was stressed, confused (because she said one thing, acted another), and became depressed because he realized pretty soon that there was something seriously wrong with her.

Can we say pathological crazy-making and then blaming the victim???

They also seem to have something 'missing' in them that you can't connect to, like a normal persons sense of what is right and wrong is not there.
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Translation: I couldn't find a place to permanently hook this person because they were free of social programming that makes "right and wrong" black and white.

In most cults it seems to be ok to lie to anyone outside of the group.
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Ummmm.... anybody who tells the truth and the whole truth to a pathological person will have it used against them. This is common knowledge even in the world of pop psychology. So to call this realization "cultic" is definitely telling us which side of the pathology line this writer is standing on!

They are also paranoid of everyone outside the group and fear the leadership and spy on each other.
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What a load of nonsense! Now it has descended into outright lies. But then, this possibly tells us a bit more about Kate's agenda vis a vis Nomad: to make him paranoid about anybody but her, to fear her and obey her, and to spy on others and tell her everything.

Control seems to be gained through hypnosis and I have heard it is possible to get people dehypnotised back to their original state. But there are other layers of re-programming.
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Ummm.... anybody notice any hypnosis going on around here lately???

They put massive focus on pathology making them totally paranoid of anyone outside the group
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Yeah, we put focus on pathology, backed up by science. And Kate, assuming this is her, is a good example of why. And anybody on this planet who does NOT put massive emphasis on pathology in power at all levels, is either lunch or the diner.

The use of the enneagram - what they refer to as 'The Work' the SS used the same tool. _http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/intro.asp
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Ummm... when is the last time anybody talked about the enneagram on this forum except as a general topic of exploration and discussion? I don't find it to be useful, myself, and think that the pop psychology people who got hold of it completely misunderstood it, but I don't claim to understand it either, thus I leave it alone unless and until some information comes my way that sheds light on it. Yeah, I wrote a bit about it but only in the sense of numerology and number symbology.

So, again we have an outright lie.

The connecting of Gurdjieff to Nazis, the dissing of the term "The Work," all point to Kate Gandolfo and display not just her ignorance, but her agenda. I think we nailed her pretty well on her thread and now - assuming this is her - she is just proving the case.

They believe humans are machines and all emotion is manipulation, and you have to earn your soul, therefore becoming a machine themselves.
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Whoah, is that ever an over-simplification, misunderstanding, twisting and distortion of some of the things we talk about all rolled into one!

Plus spinning 33 times x 3 per day, meditation and breathing, all this takes up a great deal of time and it self absorbing as you are constantly anylysing yourself and other peoples reactions.
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Well, these are interesting activities that we experiment with, some having more benefits than others, and the fact that she is dissing what has been shown to be beneficial, plus making the ridiculous comment that it "takes up a great deal of time", again displays the COINTELPRO agenda of this writer.

They seem to be artificially creating psychopaths - robots, devoid of any human emotion.
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Ohh.... scary! I guess people who can't be manipulated by psychopaths are scary to a psychopath! But there is a vast difference between controlling your emotions and being devoid of them. Strikes me that this individual doesn't perceive the difference - has semantic aphasia on that topic, for sure!

An organization that uses intensive indoctrination techniques to recruit and maintain members into a totalist ideology.
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We can agree on that point and further point out that this is what is done by the groups and social standards being defended by this individual - groups and societies run by psychopaths in power, I should add.

Intensive indoctrination techniques include:
1) Subjection to stress and fatigue
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We must have missed that memo since we work constantly to help people reduce their stress, get more sleep, eat healthy, take care of themselves.

2) Social disruption, isolation and pressure
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We must have missed that memo too since we advocate that people work on themselves in the context and relationships in which they find themselves, being always externally considerate of others.

3) Self criticism and humiliation
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Ummm... guess we missed that one too. We work pretty hard to help people get over self-criticism and feeling humiliated by understanding the splits in personality that are well-documented by many researchers, Martha Stout and Clarissa Pinkola-Estes, to name two.

4) Fear, anxiety and paranoia
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Whoah, this person is batting a thousand about now... Facing primary reality without fear, anxiety and paranoia is what we are all about! How come I get the feeling that this person never really read anything on this forum? Or, if s/he did, didn't grok it one bit?

5) Control of information
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This one leaves me rather speechless since, above all things, we send people out to find answers, to discuss what they find, and we, ourselves, are transparent both on the net and in person as hundreds of people who know us and work with us will attest.

6) Escalating commitment
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Load of nonsense. Indeed, we hope that people will commit to their own growth and if that is with us, fine, if not, fine.

7) Use of auto-hypnosis to induce ‘peak’ experiences
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Say what? Oh, I suppose that this refers to using EE which is composed of scientific tried and tested methods of reducing stress and achieving emotional catharsis and stability. ( And what about numbers 1, 3 and 4 that are contradicted by this activity???)

One line I read on their forum is ' remember you are here because you can't trust the way you think' !!!!
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Well, duhhh! And never was it proven more unequivocally than by this mish-mash of lies and projections!

Also you are not allowed to have a relationship with anyone unless you 'network' it first !!!!
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Ummm... someone please tell me where that rule is? We definitely suggest that people network about relationships because, as Sandra Brown - and many others - have proven, and the horrors of relationships that we know about just in general, show us quite clearly that a whole lot of human suffering would be relieved if people were taught from infancy how to spot pathology and also how to recognize love and caring and empathy and how to avoid feeding or being fed on others in an unhealthy way.

If you are already in a relationship and your partner is not involved they will persecute the partner.
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Oh, boy, I think we have a whole lot of members who have been in difficult relationships where we have done nothing but try to find ways for them to work out their relationship and stick with it. In fact, overall, I think our members have a lower separation/divorce rate than the average of non-members!

As for the use of the term "persecute", I again think that this is evidence that the writer is Kate Gandolfo who feels "persecuted" because her plans for domination and control didn't pan out.

They even make you paranoid of your own family, this is all to gain total control over their lives.
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Ummm... like I said, this person obviously did not do much reading on this forum and clearly is abysmally ignorant of psychology, psychopathology, much less the statistics regarding abuse in our society.

Their overall ambition 'carrot' is to attain 4th density which they very much suggest you have to be celibate.

Scary stuff
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Right. We point out repeatedly that we don't know that 4D is real, but it's a useful hypothesis and has significant scientific support from the fields of physics and math not to mention the weird stuff that happens on this planet.

Conclusion: this person is TRULY EVIL - a veritable pharisee. I'm gonna go Biblical and quote a few things that apply here:

11:15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.
11:16 And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven.
11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
11:18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.
11:19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
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23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? 23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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9:36 And he took a child, and set him in the midst of them: and when he had taken him in his arms, he said unto them, 9:37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

9:41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.

9:50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.
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Aragorn said:
I don't know how common it is to use the word 'lovebombing' in the context of recruiting, but I found it also in one of the emails of Kate G., in the Kate Gandolfo thread:

I realise you must of been just lovebombing / trying to recruit, yes I was pretty naive about this sort of thing and maybe you know what you are doing or maybe you don't. It numbs me to think that you do know.
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If I remember correctly, it was Nomad who was pursued by Kate. Perhaps he will correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Laura said:
Aragorn said:
I don't know how common it is to use the word 'lovebombing' in the context of recruiting, but I found it also in one of the emails of Kate G., in the Kate Gandolfo thread:

I realise you must of been just lovebombing / trying to recruit, yes I was pretty naive about this sort of thing and maybe you know what you are doing or maybe you don't. It numbs me to think that you do know.
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If I remember correctly, it was Nomad who was pursued by Kate. Perhaps he will correct me if I'm wrong.
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That would explain her use of the word. I was only referring to the fact that 'explorer' used the same phrasing in the post on the DI forum. Well, there's little doubt it's the same person, not that it matters that much.
 
Laura said:
Herr Eisenheim said:
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
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Only problem is, I'm the one who gets the flak.
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From Thesaurus.com:

Main Entry: flak
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: complaint, criticism
Synonyms: abuse, bad press, brickbat, censure, condemnation, disapprobation, disapproval, disparagement, fault-finding, hostility, knock*, opposition, pan, rap, swipe

Yep, you get it all!

Thanks for 'taking it on the chin' for all of us!
 
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