Role of Russia

Laura said:
And then, amazing diplomacy:

Answering a question about Abbott's idea to "shirtfront" Putin over the downing of the MH17 jetliner, the Russian president said no such confrontation took place at the Brisbane summit.

"We had very constructive discussions of not only the themes that had brought us together, but some very grave issues involving the Malaysian Boeing. We discussed that in every detail. I can assure you that everything was decent and rather friendly," said the Russian leader.
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He simply is NOT going to be baited.
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Yep, before reading this article I saw on Russian TV a press conference with Putin when he was still in Australia. He was asked how he was treated and what are his impressions. His answer was that he was treated very well and there are no complains. He thanked his hosts very much. He also remarked, that even if there are things they disagreed on, the dialog was constructive and he hopes that they now understand him better...Well...that is a reaction and answer of a decent and normal human being, who respects the laws of hospitality and is being courteous toward his hosts. The fact is (and Putin probably knows it very well), the psychos of G20 aren't going to behave in a similar manner, and there isn't going to be "increase in mutual understanding". At least he again gave an example to the world how normal human beings should behave.
 
There's a really good book entitled "The Talented Mr. Putin: What the Government-Media Complex Doesn't Want You to Know About the New Russia" by Michael S. King. It's very concise and really lays out how effective Putin is and has been as a leader of Russia - how hard he works and how much respect he shows to all he comes in contact with, etc. And why he is seen as such a threat and hated so much.
 
Lumiere_du_Code said:
when Medvedev was president, whether it was better? he allowed to tear Libya. Medvedev - absolutely not a politician, he is doodle. he would just dance to the tune US if Putin was not the prime minister. why so many liberal bastards spawn in Russia, for what? You know the answer! and who dashed all plans of these heinous critters?
Anthony, you did not answer, what would you do, as president of Russia?
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Medvedev made many mistakes, it is true. Putin now has to correct them one by one by denouncing the laws previously adopted by Medvedev. But he is a decent person, which is a very important and rare, exceptional, quality in politics. He is naive and lacks experience at some crucial points, but Putin can trust him, he is not a traitor or a liar at least.

As for Lybia, this was the first time when Putin and Medvedev had a very serious clash which stretched far beyond the doors of Kremlin. They accused each other publically of "unacceptable positions" re Lybia. I hope Medvedev has learnt his lesson since then and revised his attitude towards "our Western partners'" agendas in the Middle East.

Here is what exactly Putin said:

(Reuters) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin likened the call for armed intervention in Libya to the medieval crusades Monday in the first major remarks from Russia since a Western coalition began airstrikes.

In some of his harshest criticism of the United States since President Barack Obama began a campaign to improve ties, Putin also compared the intervention with the Bush-era invasion of Iraq and said it showed Russia is right to boost its military.

Putin, whose country opted not to block the U.N. resolution last week leading to the strikes, said that Muammar Gaddafi's government was undemocratic but emphasized that did not justify military intervention.

"The resolution is defective and flawed. It allows everything," Putin told workers at a Russian ballistic missile factory. "It resembles medieval calls for crusades."

Russia, a veto-wielding permanent U.N. Security Council member, abstained from the vote Thursday in which the council authorized a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians against Gaddafi's forces.

"What troubles me is not the fact of military intervention itself -- I am concerned by the ease with which decisions to use force are taken in international affairs."

"This is becoming a persistent tendency in U.S. policy," Putin said.

"During the Clinton era they bombed Belgrade, Bush sent forces into Afghanistan, then under an invented, false pretext they sent forces into Iraq, liquidated the entire Iraqi leadership -- even children in Saddam Hussein's family died."

"Now it is Libya's turn, under the pretext of protecting the peaceful population," Putin said. "But in bomb strikes it is precisely the civilian population that gets killed. Where is the logic and the conscience?"

CASE FOR Defense

Putin said that "today's events, including in Libya, confirmed our decisions on strengthening Russia's defense capabilities were correct."

Russia is planning to spend nearly 20 trillion roubles ($707.2 billion) through 2020 to modernize its armed forces.

Russia, which faces accusations of backsliding on democracy during Putin's 2000-2008 presidency, has repeatedly opposed international intervention in what it says are nations' internal affairs.

"The Libyan regime does not meet any of the criteria of a democratic state but that does not mean that someone is allowed to interfere in internal political conflicts to defend one of the sides," Putin said.
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And here is Medvedev's responce to Putin's opinion:

“Under no circumstances is it acceptable to use expressions that essentially lead to a clash of civilizations — such as ‘crusade’ and so on,” said Mr. Medvedev, who spoke to reporters while wearing a bomber jacket with the presidential seal.

“It is unacceptable,” Mr. Medvedev said. “Otherwise, everything may end up much worse compared to what’s going on now. Everyone should remember that.”
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The decision was made by Medvedev, not Putin. Putin would not allow that resolution to be passed.
 
Keit said:
Yep, before reading this article I saw on Russian TV a press conference with Putin when he was still in Australia. He was asked how he was treated and what are his impressions. His answer was that he was treated very well and there are no complains. He thanked his hosts very much. He also remarked, that even if there are things they disagreed on, the dialog was constructive and he hopes that they now understand him better...Well...that is a reaction and answer of a decent and normal human being, who respects the laws of hospitality and is being courteous toward his hosts. The fact is (and Putin probably knows it very well), the psychos of G20 aren't going to behave in a similar manner, and there isn't going to be "increase in mutual understanding". At least he again gave an example to the world how normal human beings should behave.
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If anyone missed the last Sott Talk Radio show, the G20 was discussed also discussed there and worth a listen. It's remarkable and inspiring to see a world leader behave with such decency in the face of madness and juvenile behavior from Western 'leaders'. I'm sure it couldn't have been easy, but it does serve as an example for those with eyes to see. Gurdjieff talked about how conscious suffering involves enduring the displeasing manifestations of others, and what could be more displeasing than dealing with a bunch of vacuous psychopaths!? Meanwhile he is strategizing and utilizing the law to demonstrate the injustice of Western hegemony. His recent Valdai speech packed quite a punch as well.
 
Ukraine, US, Canada do not back Russia-initiated UN resolution on heroization of Nazism.

UNITED NATIONS, November 22. /TASS/. The third committee of the UN General Assembly on Friday adopted a resolution urging countries to adopt more efficient measures to struggle against the heroization of Nazism and other forms of racial discrimination, xenophobia and intolerance.

A total of 115 out of 193 UN member-states voted in favor of the document, initiated by Russia. Three countries opposed the document - Canada, the United States and Ukraine. Another 55 delegations, including from the European Union countries, abstained.

The resolution expresses concerns over the spread across the world of various extremist political parties, movements and groups, including neo-Nazis as well as racist extremist movements and ideologies.
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http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/761115

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Siberia said:
Ukraine, US, Canada do not back Russia-initiated UN resolution on heroization of Nazism.

UNITED NATIONS, November 22. /TASS/. The third committee of the UN General Assembly on Friday adopted a resolution urging countries to adopt more efficient measures to struggle against the heroization of Nazism and other forms of racial discrimination, xenophobia and intolerance.

A total of 115 out of 193 UN member-states voted in favor of the document, initiated by Russia. Three countries opposed the document - Canada, the United States and Ukraine. Another 55 delegations, including from the European Union countries, abstained.

The resolution expresses concerns over the spread across the world of various extremist political parties, movements and groups, including neo-Nazis as well as racist extremist movements and ideologies.
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http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/761115

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Pretty nauseating, but not really surprising. ZioNazis, neo-Nazis, any Nazis are definitely in for the Anglo-American-Zionist Evil Empire, and are only given lip service now and again for their own purposes (if they say or do anything that can be used politically in their favor).
 
Siberia said:
Ukraine, US, Canada do not back Russia-initiated UN resolution on heroization of Nazism.
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Obama and Harper and their Ukie puppets are indeed the Nazi supporters. And yet it is Putin who gets identified with Hitler by all western media. What the @#$%?!

It's like the psychopaths tell the people: "here's a new reality for you where everything you ever knew it's turned upside down so obviously that you must be a very stupid and ignorant person to accept it" and most of the rest of the world enters with "we accept your reality, masters, we accept it!"

On many days I have this strong impression that western news are conspiring against my sanity!
 
Alana said:
Siberia said:
Ukraine, US, Canada do not back Russia-initiated UN resolution on heroization of Nazism.
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Obama and Harper and their Ukie puppets are indeed the Nazi supporters. And yet it is Putin who gets identified with Hitler by all western media. What the @#$%?!

It's like the psychopaths tell the people: "here's a new reality for you where everything you ever knew it's turned upside down so obviously that you must be a very stupid and ignorant person to accept it" and most of the rest of the world enters with "we accept your reality, masters, we accept it!"

On many days I have this strong impression that western news are conspiring against my sanity!
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My thoughts exactly, Alana. This theater of absurd has a long history, but today they officially recognized their ideology. It is mindboggling that Germany, for example, OFFICIALLY abstained. What the @#$% is that?! They now think that Nazi Germany was OK or what? And these people blame Putin that he is "on the wrong side of history?" Have they ever studied history at all?

Here is the voting sheet: http://www.un.org/en/ga/third/67/docs/voting_sheets/l.55.Rev.1.pdf.

And the article by the Global Research: http://www.globalresearch.ca/combating-the-glorification-of-nazism/5365424.
 
Siberia said:
It is mindboggling that Germany, for example, OFFICIALLY abstained. What the @#$% is that?! They now think that Nazi Germany was OK or what? And these people blame Putin that he is "on the wrong side of history?" Have they ever studied history at all?
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They are all cowards. And by abstaining they still as if voted yes to evil.
 
Persej said:
As far as I can see, from Europe only Serbia and Belarus said 'Yes'.
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Yes, most likely so: those are the results of previous vote - the new ones are not yet available. I've been reading about the history of this resolution, and here are some interesting facts. As it occurs, Russia has been suggesting similar resolutions on a yearly basis since 2006.

2011:

Following World War II, innumerable Nazi war criminals were comfortably and illegally settled in countries of Europe and throughout the United States, where at least some of their children and grandchildren may well have been educated in the Nazi doctrine of racial supremacy that required the extermination or enslavement of all races deemed inferior to “Aryans.” This may help explain why, since 2006, members of the European Union abstained on this United Nations resolution “expressing deep concern at the glorification of the Nazi movement,” while in all preceding years the United States, in virtual isolation actually opposed the Resolution A/66/460. This year, a year which is exposing the failure of the capitalist system in Europe and the USA, the members of the European Union for the first time actually opposed Resolution A/66/460 together with the United States. Iran, Syria, Israel, the Democratic Republic of Korea, together all supporters of A/66/460 revealed their revulsion at the nazi resurgence. One can only wonder by what moral authority nazi-condoning Europe condemns anti-nazi Iran, Syria and the Democratic Republic of Korea.

Read more: http://www.globalresearch.ca/neo-nazism-united-nations-anti-nazi-resolution-and-falsification-of-history/28800
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2012:

In fact, the UN adopts similar resolutions every year since 2006 – and every year, some countries refuse to support these resolutions. One of the countries that, as a rule, do not support them, is Ukraine. A statement recently released by Russia’s permanent mission in the UN says that Russia regrets that Ukraine does not condemn attempts to present Nazi collaborators as heroes.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussia/2012_11_27/Why-not-everyone-supports-UN-anti-Nazi-resolution/
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No wonder that neo-Nazism is spreading and flourishing in some countries now.
 
But why such Nazi hatred toward Russians? Russians are also “Aryans”, right?
 
Persej said:
But why such Nazi hatred toward Russians? Russians are also “Aryans”, right?
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I don't think it has something to do with whether Russian are "Aryans" or not. The history of the Ukrainian Nationalism goes back to the World War II as many Ukrainian nationalists colloborated with German SS and fighted against Communists/Soviet Union. Since Russia is a "heir" of the Soviet Union, this hatred is now against Russians in general. Ironically enough, both National-Socialism and Communism are creations of the Zionists to some extent whose main aim is to destroy Christiantity and Christian values (because the Jewish God doesn't allow any other gods), ignite a world revolution and install an (official) world government. So the modern neo-nazists who brainwashed by the Nazi-Ideology fullfill unwittingly this purpose.

You may want to read Douglas Reed's The Controversy of Zion.
 
Today's news: "evil" Russia sends humanitarian aid to Palestine..

The humanitarian aid is provided pursuant to Russian government’s resolution in connection with Palestinian authorities’ request for medications and medical equipment.

Healthcare institutions in the Gaza Strip experience severe shortages of medical supplies after the Israeli military operation Protective Edge.
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and decorates a Christmas tree for Notre Dame de Paris:

In the past, it was customary for donations toward the tree to be collected only with the help of the local parish. This year, however, it couldn’t make the target. In the short space of time remaining, Moscow City Hall came to the rescue.

Saturday’s ceremony was attended by Russian ambassador Aleksandr Orlov and the rector of the Notre Dame de Paris, Monsignor Patrick Jacquin, both of whom took part in switching on the enormous tree.
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