Crash of German Wings Flight over French Alps

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rs said:
Just a thought.

Much has been written in this thread about the level of disintegration of the plane. From the reports so far, it definitely seems this was a CFIT incident and this means that the plane was probably travelling at or near cruising speed on impact. Most airline accidents occur at a much lower speed because the airliner is either taking off or landing. Recall that the kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the velocity, so what seem like small changes in velocity result in tremendous changes in total energy released.

I've heard that it was around 700 knots upon supposed impact. Typical cruise speed is at about 511 mph. Adding the weight of the cargo (luggage), passengers, (144) support of passenger comfort (food beverage Crew of 6) wind direction (head wind, tail wind within the jet stream), humidity, fuel load (at that time of it's destination) and it does increase the kinetic energy quite a bit.

A-320 Statistics:

Seating capacity 156 [149] (1-class, maximum 134 (1-class, typical) 124 (2-class, typical)
Cargo capacity 27.62 m3 (975 cu ft) 4× LD3-46
Maximum takeoff weight-75.5 t (166,000 lb)
Maximum range, fully loaded 3,600 nmi (6,700 km; 4,100 mi)
Maximum fuel capacity 24,210 L (5,330 imp gal; 6,400 US gal) standard 30,190 L (6,640 imp gal; 7,980 US gal) optional
Service ceiling 12,000 m (39,000 ft)
Cruising speed Mach 0.78 (828 km/h/511 mph at 11,000 m/36,000 ft)
Maximum speed Mach 0.82 (871 km/h/537 mph at 11,000 m/36,000 ft)
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320_family
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He was a Muslim! that's what a German reporter told. The article is in French and it says that the co-pilot converted himself to Muslim religion. He was seeing a Muslim woman. He was attending a Radical mosque with links with ISIS. The news also said that the police have found in his apartment a "very important" element not related to his suicide.


http://breizatao.com/2015/03/27/germanwings-un-media-allemand-affirme-que-le-copilote-etait-converti-a-lislam/

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March 25, 2015

US Laser Test Destroys Germanwings Airliner Killing 150 Innocent Civilians

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

The Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reporting today that dispatches from the Northern Fleet (NF) appear to show that yesterdays downing of Germanwings Flight 4U 9525 in southern France yesterday was the “direct result” of a failed US Air Force test of its High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System (HELLADS) attempting to shoot down an ICBM reentry vehicle, but which, instead, destroyed this civilian airliner killing all 150 aboard.

According to this MoD report, the Northern Fleet, which is already on full combat alert, was alerted to this incident yesterday by the Severomorsk submarine chaser, currently operating in the Mediterranean, who reported that widespread atmospheric electrical anomalies over southern France, western Italy and southwestern Switzerland were being detected. The area where these detections were made by the Severomorsk, this report notes, also happens to be the combat operational area of the US Air Forces 510th Fighter Squadron operating out of the Aviano Air Base in Italy.

Curiously, this MoD further notes, these anomalies occurring in the 510th Fighter Squadron’s combat operating area of southern France yesterday came within the same time frame that British civilian radar systems went black; which was further confirmed by a Flight Emergencies posting stating: “Doing a bit of spotting at MAN, I look up and see an A380 passing overhead just past the BA, but nothing on radar? Hm”

This MoD report clarifies that US-UK-EU radar systems frequently go black upon the takeoff/landings of B1 bombers, and which in yesterday’s case, where this incident was reported in Manchester (MAN), it likely coincided with the deployment of a British B-1 Lancer Bomber, some of which are able to utilize the US Air Forces High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System too.

The MoD further notes that the US-UK-EU military structure frequently endangers civilian flights with their war games over the continent, such as last year when about 50 planes temporarily disappeared from radars in Austria, Germany, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia between 5 June and 10 June. Slovak air traffic services in their statement about this radar blackout admitted at the time: “The disappearance of objects on radar screens was connected with a planned military exercise which took place in various parts of Europe...whose goal was the interruption of radio communication frequencies. This activity also caused the temporary disappearance of several targets on the radar display, while in the meantime the planes were in radio contact with air traffic controllers and continued in their flight normally.”

And to how dangerous these Western war games can be to civilian airliners, this report continues, was evidenced on 3 March when, in an eerie pre-simulation to the demise yesterday of Germanwings Flight 9525, the US Air Force, while preparing for yesterday’s failed test over southern France, Lufthansa Flight LH1172, an Airbus A321 operating at a normal flight altitude, plummeted out of the sky in minutes, and as evidenced by its radar charts.

To the explanation of Lufthansa Flight LH1172 plummeting towards earth in southern France barely a fortnight ago, we can further read from the Airliner Reporter article titled Catching a Lufthansa Airbus A321’s Rapid Descent Live which, in part, says:

“There were a few moments where I thought I may have been watching a crash of some sort occur in real-time, from thousands of miles away. But thankfully, the pilots were just quick acting, and diverted to a nearby airport.

Lufthansa confirmed to AirlineReporter.com that LH1172 had 151 passengers on board and the captain decided to stopover in Nantes (NTE), France, “due to a medical case (sick passenger).” They confirmed that there was no emergency requested and that the aircraft landed safely.”

Unlike Lufthansa Flight LH1172 before it, however, this MoD report continues, Germanwings Flight 9525, yesterday, wasn’t able to recover from its rapid descent…instead it was obliterated in tens-of-thousands of pieces of metal and human flesh upon the side of a mountain in southern France.

To what caused Germanwings Flight 9525 to be so thoroughly destroyed, this report says, was first evidenced on 3 February when a US Air Force test of their High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System targeting one of their older weather system satellites completed obliterated it by heating it from within causing to it explode while in orbit.

However, MoD experts in this report say, chemical laser systems, such as the US Air Forces High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System which brought down Germanwings Flight 9525, and nearly crashed Lufthansa Flight LH1172, are notoriously known for being extremely difficult to aim at long range targets as their “effects” tend to spread throughout the atmosphere affecting anything and everything in their path.

And to the exact scenario causing the destruction of Germanwings Flight 9525 yesterday, these MoD experts continue, was a combined Western alliance attempt to target a “test re-entry vehicle” simulating a Federation nuclear warhead attack upon them yesterday.

The specific “test re-entry vehicle” used in this failed US missile test, this report says, was launched the day before on an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) fired early Monday from a US Air Force facility in California, and which the Obama regime stated was a “message to the world about Washington's nuclear capabilities”.

This “message to the world”, however, the MoD in their report state, was, instead, aimed directly at the Federation for their crippling of the USS Theodore Roosevelt using the superior “magrav” technology, and that aside from previously destroying this aircraft carrier in a war game a few weeks ago, likewise disabled the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea last year.

Sadly, this report grimly states, of the nearly 37 NATO aircraft taking part in this US missile test yesterday, just a single Italian military jet switched its transponder to the emergency code of #7700 upon seeing Germanwings Flight 9525 plummet towards the ground.

And as many German pilots are refusing to fly today because of these US war game actions against the Federation, this report concludes, the likelihood of the Western people being told the truth about what happened to Germanwings Flight 9525 is about the same as their being told the truth about Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, which was proved by satellite photos to have been shot down by a Ukrainian fighter jet, is about the same…Zero.

And to if the Western peoples even want to know the truth of the countless lives being destroyed on their military leaders alter of war? No one really knows the answer anymore.

Not convinced for my part.
 
While not conclusive because it doesn't address the situation where the door is set to "lock" by the pilot, this video raises questions about the idea that the Germanwings pilot was locked out. It's possible that he had only to input the override code and wait 5 minutes for the door to open. It kind of makes sense from a security POV that crew outside the cockpit would be able to access it if both pilots were unresponsive AND the door had been set to "lock". Maybe if it's on "lock" it can't be overridden from the outside?


https://youtu.be/ROIH3KCEIvs
 
I saw a bit on TV the other night that showed the inside of the cockpit and the lock mechanism of the Airbus 320 cabin door. I understood that the lock override, can be overridden from inside the cockpit, but the pilot has to keep his finger on the switch and manually hold it in position to do so.

The conclusion to this report was that Lubitz had one hand on the override switch, holding it in the lock position until the crash. So there is an override system to enter the locked cockpit door from the outside, unless, someone inside is overriding the override manually. :cry:
 
Lilou said:
The conclusion to this report was that Lubitz had one hand on the override switch, holding it in the lock position until the crash. So there is an override system to enter the locked cockpit door from the outside, unless, someone inside is overriding the override manually. :cry:

That seems to be the logical conclusion. Also note that in order for the aircraft to descend from cruise altitude, the round knob (directly below 39000 in the attached image) has to be rotated left (ie, set to a lower altitude) and pulled, again suggesting a deliberate action. :(
 

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While an aircraft slamming into a mountain at a speed of 700 km/h certainly carries a lot of kinetic energy, the images from the crash site oddly remind me of the pulverization of the twin towers on 9/11. Wonder if there was a similar technology involved in the destruction of the plane - if destruction happened prior to impact at all.
 
This tragedy will have significant consequences, perhaps rightfully so. CNN reports that the co-pilot was unfit to fly on the day, but failed to self-report that to his employer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/29/europe/france-germanwings-plane-crash-main/

It appears that my earlier conjecture that he might have been under the influence of anti-depressant drugs was correct. There will be hell to pay at Lufthansa, in German medical practices, and - one can only hope - in the pharmaceutical industry.
 
I was wondering, MH17 came down over Ukraine July 17, 2014, around this same time 15 July Israel started it's protective edge operation while the world was looking the other way so to speak we can all remember that. I'm not saying that was the reason for the bringing down of the aircraft, I think that was just one of the benefits of the situation, and gave Israel a degree of cover to move while everyone was distracted.

Could the same be said of this flight, the plane accident happened Tuesday March 24, 2015, Saudi Arabia unilaterally invades Yemen on Thursday March 26,
while the world is looking the other way, I'm not saying they had anything to do with it, maybe it's just an odd correlation
 
The French press reported that as per black boxes recordings, the pilot tried to force open the cabin with an ax! Is it really true that one can find an ax in a plane?
 
Marcus Aurelius said:
The French press reported that as per black boxes recordings, the pilot tried to force open the cabin with an ax! Is it really true that one can find an ax in a plane?

Well, yeah, sure, an escape ax, similar to this one:

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Seems the power outage in Holland wasn't just in the airport.

http://rt.com/news/244537-power-outage-north-holland/
 
Well, there has been another incident, this time with Air Canada.
http://www.sott.net/article/294464-Air-Canada-flight-crashes-on-runway-in-Halifax

Notice the following info:

The crash coincided with a sudden power outage at the airport.

Initial reports from the scene indicate that the plane was badly damaged.

According to reports, they saw a bright flash as the aircraft clipped power lines. One of the wings of the airplane is "completely" torn off.

What I wonder, if the wing being torn off and the airplane being so badly damaged happened due to bad landing, or something else happened to the airplane while still in the air? But then, if it was before, it would be kind of hard to conceal as all the passengers are alive.

In any case, still an interesting coincidence.
 
sitting said:
Seems the power outage in Holland wasn't just in the airport.

http://rt.com/news/244537-power-outage-north-holland/

Yep, large parts of the provinces North-Holland and Flevoland were affected. Though it hasn't been officially confirmed yet, but according to the distribution network operator, Netbeheer Nederland, it was one of the biggest power outages in the Netherlands.

http://nl.sott.net/article/801-Stroomstoring-in-grote-delen-van-de-provincie-Noord-Holland-en-een-deel-van-Flevoland (Dutch)
 
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