Christian - Reply #315 on: Yesterday at 01:42:25 PM said:
Hi all,
An idea about the quantum theory, maybe we need to try another path to understand it.
For example, how about Sufi whirling? . . . .
<snipped out the Photo and Drawing of Whirling Sufis>
Hi
Christian -- Love the drawing. Apologies, but perhaps because I am completely out of my depth on this subject (quantum theory) I am failing to understand QT even with your beautiful drawing. Probably because I just don't understand the basics in layman's terms. Is there some connection to the ideas of time and/or chaos in QT? And how QT connects to the C's statement:
C's said:
A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.
I google searched Quantum Theory and below are the first 3 paragraphs from one of the sites. Frankly, I still don't understand it any better after reading about it than I did before. To me, it's all just tossed salad meaninglessness.
I think I would need QT explained with an analogy or example I could understand in order for me to get my little wits wrapped around this theory. Like explaining Morphogenic Resonance using the example of the story of the 100th Monkey experiment.
But thank you for trying to help me out here. Besides, I like your drawing even if I still fail to understand the Theory. :)
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_http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/quantum-theory
Quantum Theory
Quantum theory is the theoretical basis of modern physics that explains the nature and behavior of matter and energy on the atomic and subatomic level. The nature and behavior of matter and energy at that level is sometimes referred to as quantum physics and quantum mechanics.
In 1900, physicist Max Planck presented his quantum theory to the German Physical Society. Planck had sought to discover the reason that radiation from a glowing body changes in color from red, to orange, and, finally, to blue as its temperature rises. He found that by making the assumption that energy existed in individual units in the same way that matter does, rather than just as a constant electromagnetic wave - as had been formerly assumed - and was therefore quantifiable, he could find the answer to his question. The existence of these units became the first assumption of quantum theory.
Planck wrote a mathematical equation involving a figure to represent these individual units of energy, which he called quanta. The equation explained the phenomenon very well; Planck found that at certain discrete temperature levels (exact multiples of a basic minimum value), energy from a glowing body will occupy different areas of the color spectrum. Planck assumed there was a theory yet to emerge from the discovery of quanta, but, in fact, their very existence implied a completely new and fundamental understanding of the laws of nature. Planck won the Nobel Prize in Physics for his theory in 1918, but developments by various scientists over a thirty-year period all contributed to the modern understanding of quantum theory.
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ka said:
Hi, Christian & Miss.K:
Miss.K said:
in a scenario described by the music (and it seems to be happening in both the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual world at once now), one has to be quite flexible to survive, and go into a kind of intuitive dance mode to be able to use the force of the swaying of the piece of ground one stands on to jump onto the next piece of ground, and if one instead get scared or is too rigid, and try to hold on to the piece of ground one stands on, or think one can stay put while planning ones next move, one will fall into the abyss with it...
In a sense go with the chaos instead of resisting it, though surfing it instead of being part of it...
I don’t understand the drawing, either, but I enjoy looking at it, and I like the idea of dancing with the chaos!
Hi
ka -- I didn't understand the drawing connection with quantum theory either -- perhaps because I don't understand anything about quantum theory. But, like you, I LIKE the drawing anyway. And the idea of dancing with the chaos. Exactly! Sounds like an approach I would find easy to do since I love dancing.
It reminds me of trying to navigate a crowded dance floor when the dancers are drunk and have their eyes closed -- and they've all got drinks in one hand and a lit cigarette in the other hand. The way I do it is to keep my own eyes opened, and dance through the dancers like a ninja -- following the musical rhythm and beats -- being quick to side step or alter my course or stop on a dime. What doesn't work is to barge through like a steam-roller -- bumping into other dancers or knocking them down. My intention is to move through the space without disturbing anyone else and still reach my goal.
So I like
Miss K's idea of being like the flexible willow tree rather than the rigid stationary oak. Sometimes it's easier for me to retain my balance by being in motion than to remain standing still.
Thanks everyone for the interesting discussion. I do hope we are getting this orchestra tuned up so we can play a symphony as resoundingly powerful and moving as Pomp & Circumstance! :)
SeekinTruth Reply #314 on: Yesterday at 01:20:06 PM said:
I love the orchestra analogy in that C's session too. It actually describes some of the recent posting on the forum when people start misinterpreting the material or making wild, disconnected "word salad"-like speculations, etc. And then some other posters will join in for the salad shooter postings, while the rest of the forum is trying to bring things back to playing in tune and restoring the harmony of understanding, while others join in with the misunderstandings / misinterpretations and wild, disconnected speculations, and so on. Seems some can play true when those around them are playing a whole other piece, while others get triggered and start playing a whole other score too. Or so I think.
Holding up hand and hanging head in sheepish acknowledgment. Thank you
SeekinTruth for reminding me/us to refrain from going off on tangents and creating cacophony in the symphony the Forum Network is attempting to play here. I will pledge to be more aware of my own infractions in future. Good thing you Conductors are on your toes and can and will rap your conductor batons to gain our attention and bring us back into harmony. Blessings. :)
P.S. OMG -- it occurs to me that this very post of mine may be precisely what you are referring to
SeekinTruth. True? Not meaning to be wiseacre-ing, but if so, I've now graduated to sitting in the corner of the room on the stool with the Dunce Cap upon my head. :(
