Session 4 April 2015
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M, I understand about using colloquialisms on international forums. I usually stay away from them, but this time the story and colloquialism just seemed appropriate - apparently not for many members.
Sitting, yeah I've been through the ringer. In one case I had a Detective assigned to me. It was a relationship that lasted about a year and a half. I twigged to him after about two weeks but kept it all going as he was giving me legal briefs. I would give him some tid bit every now and then (nothing important) to take back to his superiors to justify the surveillance. I ran into him two years later in the elevator at District Court - I said Hello and he opened his jacket to reveal a Police Integrity Commission badge and said "I know nothing" - I figured he was working undercover on another case and I didn't want to blow his cover, so I kept my mouth shut.
Most of the spooks are just people like you and me, it is a job. Don't make it personal, keep it friendly. The one's you have to be careful of are the psychopaths. The main way I dealt with them is again not making it personal, make them feel like they are succeeding (they're narcistic) and then go about what ever I was doing on a parallel track that achieved the same result.
I've got heaps of stories, 'floating box', 'honey trap', 'agent provocateur' - I love the one where the bloke was trying to sell me an Uzi machine gun while his partner (a stunningly good looking woman all dressed up like a tart (can I say that on this forum?)) kept calling him 'Daddy' - you really had to be there, it was so over the top. I would catch her looking at me out of the corner of my eye, but when I looked at her she looked away. Yeah, they had her make-up, short skirt, knit stockings, tight top all worked out, but she couldn't play the part of the 'flirt'. She probably had a family out in the suburbs someplace.
Eipnvn, I usually don't hang out with groups. I find there is too much 'group think'. Like, you have to act like us to be like us. After all these years, I'd rather go it alone, I experience and learn more and my FRV doesn't feel compromised.
I see the C's keep referring to 'networking'. OK, I can see the advantages. I know when I was a pilot I really enjoyed having another pilot in the cockpit that was on the same page as me. However, finding people on the same page has always been a problem. For me, the jury is still out on whether the members of this forum have got the 'right stuff' - or are they just another bunch of wannabes. I've been watching Laura and the C's for a least 15 years. She's got it, but the rest of you? It doesn't impress me when you go all to pieces over a single comment, a word. Not much depth in that...
Maybe that's what the C's were referring to - members of the forum that are wound too tight and are compromising the WORK of networking.
Sitting, yeah I've been through the ringer. In one case I had a Detective assigned to me. It was a relationship that lasted about a year and a half. I twigged to him after about two weeks but kept it all going as he was giving me legal briefs. I would give him some tid bit every now and then (nothing important) to take back to his superiors to justify the surveillance. I ran into him two years later in the elevator at District Court - I said Hello and he opened his jacket to reveal a Police Integrity Commission badge and said "I know nothing" - I figured he was working undercover on another case and I didn't want to blow his cover, so I kept my mouth shut.
Most of the spooks are just people like you and me, it is a job. Don't make it personal, keep it friendly. The one's you have to be careful of are the psychopaths. The main way I dealt with them is again not making it personal, make them feel like they are succeeding (they're narcistic) and then go about what ever I was doing on a parallel track that achieved the same result.
I've got heaps of stories, 'floating box', 'honey trap', 'agent provocateur' - I love the one where the bloke was trying to sell me an Uzi machine gun while his partner (a stunningly good looking woman all dressed up like a tart (can I say that on this forum?)) kept calling him 'Daddy' - you really had to be there, it was so over the top. I would catch her looking at me out of the corner of my eye, but when I looked at her she looked away. Yeah, they had her make-up, short skirt, knit stockings, tight top all worked out, but she couldn't play the part of the 'flirt'. She probably had a family out in the suburbs someplace.
Eipnvn, I usually don't hang out with groups. I find there is too much 'group think'. Like, you have to act like us to be like us. After all these years, I'd rather go it alone, I experience and learn more and my FRV doesn't feel compromised.
I see the C's keep referring to 'networking'. OK, I can see the advantages. I know when I was a pilot I really enjoyed having another pilot in the cockpit that was on the same page as me. However, finding people on the same page has always been a problem. For me, the jury is still out on whether the members of this forum have got the 'right stuff' - or are they just another bunch of wannabes. I've been watching Laura and the C's for a least 15 years. She's got it, but the rest of you? It doesn't impress me when you go all to pieces over a single comment, a word. Not much depth in that...
Maybe that's what the C's were referring to - members of the forum that are wound too tight and are compromising the WORK of networking.
sitting
Dagobah Resident
Spur said:
Really? At least 15 years? Now that is impressive--if true.
She's only been around for 20.
You seem quite dismissive of all others. This without knowing a thing about their backgrounds. A good detective--or spook--would never do this. It shows a rather poor understanding, training, mindset--or all the above. Not the qualities required of a high level operative.
And do not be so proud of foul language. It's indicative of a lack of self control--and mental carelessness. Based on these early signs, I have some doubts about the "usefulness" or relevance of your spooky experiences--if I may be frank.
FWIW.
Spur, if you've been following along for awhile, then you probably know that I don't like vulgarity mainly because it reflects a want of creativity. Think about the difference between:
EFF YOU!
and:
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your private parts.
Now, as to your remark to the ladies, I can see what you meant and that it was appropriate and understood in the context in which it was delivered. But repeating it to others in exactly that way would require just a BIT of explanatory preamble, don't you think? Especially in a forum that is so full of international members where colloquialisms are not immediately understood? For the sake of external considering, the backbone of networking?
EFF YOU!
and:
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your private parts.
Now, as to your remark to the ladies, I can see what you meant and that it was appropriate and understood in the context in which it was delivered. But repeating it to others in exactly that way would require just a BIT of explanatory preamble, don't you think? Especially in a forum that is so full of international members where colloquialisms are not immediately understood? For the sake of external considering, the backbone of networking?
sitting said:
sitting,
I have been thinking about the questions above that seem to have been answered for you by Laura already as far as "proper networking" with others in our group and how we "depend" on each other to a great extent. It is sort of like Gurdjieff's idea of "women on a rope" where as we climb we need to support and help those on the rope behind us or with us to advance. Of course I think you were correct in considering the Work we have to do on ourselves to get our "magnetic centers" in order to be able to help/share in a beneficial way with others before we can connect chakras in a deeper or more significant way.
The connecting of chakras has me thinking that it could relate to "telepathy" which seems to me to be a "psychic" ability that may develop as one moves into 4D. As I was looking for more descriptions of the "psychic" aspects of our development I noticed that it may depend on an "awareness" of 4D.
Here is an excerpt from 1998_07_11 archived _http://web.archive.org/web/20030219132949/http://www.cassiopaea.org/sessions/980711.html
In the quote above I noticed that the awareness factor is key and that we may not develop this awareness until after "physical disasters" and the realm border changes. Some will just be confused like lost sheep "beying in the knight" while those who are ready to shift will be possibly triggered by the events to even notice more by DNA changes that are active "Both ways".
The following session mentions our "psychic" nature and some of the other aspects of changes that are related when one is ready to "bump it up a notch":
Session 10 October 1998
As you may notice in the above sessions there is still a physical component to the changes we may experience and it may be a gradual process that could also be accelerated by the coming realm border change and catastrophic events. For some the 4D aspect will go unnoticed while others may see changes in themselves and their relationship with the physical environment. I am only feebly making a case for the possibilities that may lie ahead for us.
When the group was making a special effort to attend a session in July of 2000 they sensed the need to be there and the Cs explained that they had difficulties to overcome just to come together:
Session 22 July 2000
After the above questions and answers were covered, the subject of reincarnation is discussed at length and is very thought provoking. It could also be related to connecting chakras I think. The connecting and unifying is a complex subject that we should maybe develop in steps or increments by taking time to reflect. I could make this reply longer but I don't want to get into too much "doodoo" and write a book.
Also there is one activity that the Cs say is beneficial in connecting to others and that is EE:
Session 20 August 2011
I suppose telepathy would help us even now as we try to communicate with others on the forum from so many backgrounds, cultures and languages.
And lastly, sitting, I just have this sense of feeling that you are a real person that I would like to "sit" across from and share ideas. I think that is almost what the forum should be about.
Sitting, yes it is something like 15 years I've been trying to figure out this whole Cs thing. One of my earliest memories was of Laura researching a pilot that had been killed in Viet Nam. I was a pilot in Viet Nam, so I had an interest in following it up. I also knew how to access various data bases that could tell me if the story was true. After researching it, I called it a 'miss'. However, there was something there that kept niggling away at me. I didn't understand it, but something at some level kept bringing me back.
Over the years and through many different resources, I finally 'got it' when I read Thomas Campbell's trilogy called 'My Big Toe'. So now I understand what Laura is doing and how it works. I also now understand what the Cs meant when they said 'open' - that used to confuse me.
As far as the 'spooky' stories, you're right, they probably won't be much use to you. Especially if you never get on their Radar, but I was causing them problems with some of their programs. Towards the end it was getting very heavy and I knew I was pushing my luck. I could only do so much and those guys had access to enormous assets.
And some of it is dated, I mentioned 'floating box'. That is an old style surveillance technique that probably isn't used anymore - everyone is carrying around their own 'bug' on their persons with a mobile phone. The 'floating box' story is also funny, but it takes too long to tell.
Laura, point taken. Won't happen again.
Over the years and through many different resources, I finally 'got it' when I read Thomas Campbell's trilogy called 'My Big Toe'. So now I understand what Laura is doing and how it works. I also now understand what the Cs meant when they said 'open' - that used to confuse me.
As far as the 'spooky' stories, you're right, they probably won't be much use to you. Especially if you never get on their Radar, but I was causing them problems with some of their programs. Towards the end it was getting very heavy and I knew I was pushing my luck. I could only do so much and those guys had access to enormous assets.
And some of it is dated, I mentioned 'floating box'. That is an old style surveillance technique that probably isn't used anymore - everyone is carrying around their own 'bug' on their persons with a mobile phone. The 'floating box' story is also funny, but it takes too long to tell.
Laura, point taken. Won't happen again.
sitting
Dagobah Resident
Spur said:
Hi Spur,
I appreciate your reply.
The story you're referring to was not a "miss", but rather an incredible "hit." I too had access to data bases. And I found that pilot's full name. Plus what came out of Laura's subsequent hypnotic session with her son was even more revealing. You might want to re-research that one--with more care.
My point with you had more to do with attitude than details. Whatever stories you can provide I assume we've already seen from Hollywood. My guess is their inside access trumps yours. But I could be wrong.
It might be useful to review (and reflect) on the session where "covertly antagonistic" and "disrespectful" were brought up. It did me a ton of good. Might very well do same for you. I say this because I believe you can contribute a lot. But it won't come without an attitude adjustment, in my opinion. FWIW.
And I apologize if I sound a bit preachy this morning.
sitting
Dagobah Resident
goyacobol said:
Hello goyacobol,
Thank you for another outstanding summation. You know this material SO well. Reading through your postings, I sense an artistic AND disciplined mind. And much kindness too. It is an honor and privilege to be your friend.
I agree with you that our salvation is probably awareness--in the truest sense of the word. It's in the psychic realm rather then the physical one that our hidden powers will manifest I think. "Super-strength and resistance" they said. Those are strong words and they choose their words carefully.
As I mentioned once before, I'm working everyday--on my knowledge AND my faith. Doing my best to keep up with Laura and this group. It's become a big part of my daily life. And each time I gain something, I say a mental "thanks" ... to the lady who made all this possible.
sitting
Dagobah Resident
goyacobol said:
An additional comment if I may.
I think Laura made amply clear in her response and in subsequent remarks, that group connection is possible ONLY when the right FRV has been achieved by the individual. Otherwise that person remains on the periphery and is in effect "left behind."
This is a striking choice confronting those still sitting on fences. I sat there once, but I don't sit there anymore.
This also means that those who CAN connect, have already done substantial work on themselves. Being almost but not quite there. The group link then accelerates further movement and eventually fills that remaining gap. At the risk of sounding pompous, I think (and I also feel) I'm kind of in the midst of that phase. I sense you are as well. Along with many others here.
And when enough members achieve this cohesion, tribal strength is achieved. And then it's a big problem--for the bad guys.
sitting said:
sitting,
I agree whole hardheartedly that Laura is a true example of everything we are all striving to become as conscious souls with "holy awareness of true existence". If it was not for her openly sharing her life and experiences freely, I would not be here on the forum. If everyone who joined the forum would at least read Amazing Grace I think they would pause before being negative in their attitudes towards her and what this forum is about. The more we get to know each other the more we see that we are alike and have a kinship. Thank you for reminding me of how we are alike. It is an honor for me as well to be in such good company.
is it just me that are not used to the mac version of the SoTT page or have the old podcasts been removed?
Yeah, that was one of the more amazing hits, I'd say.
I agree, but would add reading the Wave series would have the same effect. When I first found the C's material, I read (out of ignorance) the online Adventures series (after reading the intro to the C's experiment thinking that was the only material that dealt with it), then the Wave and was really impressed and kept reading and reading all the huge amounts of writings freely available. I kept running into mentions of Amazing Grace, but by the time I wanted to start reading it, it was no longer available (around 2005 or 2006?). Then it became available again around 2011. So the Wave series had the same effect on me (having reread it a couple of times too) until I finally got to read Amazing Grace.
goyacobol said:
I agree, but would add reading the Wave series would have the same effect. When I first found the C's material, I read (out of ignorance) the online Adventures series (after reading the intro to the C's experiment thinking that was the only material that dealt with it), then the Wave and was really impressed and kept reading and reading all the huge amounts of writings freely available. I kept running into mentions of Amazing Grace, but by the time I wanted to start reading it, it was no longer available (around 2005 or 2006?). Then it became available again around 2011. So the Wave series had the same effect on me (having reread it a couple of times too) until I finally got to read Amazing Grace.
Miss.K
Dagobah Resident
SeekinTruth said:
I agree too,
Amazing Grace one can read as a novel, that at the same time will bring a lot of knowledge, and understanding of Laura and her work.
The Wave is half novel half textbook, and will bring even more knowledge, but still understanding of Laura and her work.
Amazing Grace can be a great intro, specially for those that are slightly textbook challenged, (and 1 book takes less time to read than 8 books), so it is a quicker way to check out if one is interested in knowing more about what Lauras work is about.
-And if one is not interested in knowing more after reading Amazing Grace, I would imagine one would never be interested in knowing more, (or that one is a stone)