UFO of some sort

Konstantin said:
Woodsman said:
This one is all over the internet as of today, but I thought I might post a link here in any case for the sake of being completist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cicrtWHpc0

The halo reminds me of rocket fuel spewing as seen in other videos of malfunctioned launches, but it also looks similar to plasma discharge events, just.., big.

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Update:

The news is apparently calling the phenomenon the result of an Atlas 5 rocket launch and a second stage separation.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/go-for-launch/os-atlas-v-launch-time-now-618-am-20150902-post.html
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I saw the video few times and i think its definitely some kind of plasma discharge. It looks like some comet that have an electrical interaction with the earths atmosphere . I dont think its a rocket.
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I think the broadcast pretty much proofed that this actually was from an Atlas V rocket launch. You can see, when the rocket reached the upper atmosphere, the exhaust fume starts to get wider while the sunlight illuminates it. This phenomenon can be observed through all rocket launches because if the atmospheric pressure lessens the higher the rocket gets, the exhaust fume gets wider and wider until the rocket reaches the vaccum of space and the particles of the fumes then expand more or less solely to their last moving impulse they got in the thrust nozzle without to collide with the atmosphere anymore that forces the fumes into a narrow line. Though, it seems possible that some kind plasma interaction was involved there and if this is the case, it might be nothing out of the ordinary since the only difference according to the launch cameras mounted at the rocket was the sunlight that made all this visible. During a day-launch or a night-launch, such beauty would remain invisible.
 
I wonder if the "authorities" would ever actually admit if it was an electrically charged bolide, or if they'd just spin it as a rocket launch?
Back to sleep! :zzz:
 
Alfisti said:
I wonder if the "authorities" would ever actually admit if it was an electrically charged bolide, or if they'd just spin it as a rocket launch?
Back to sleep! :zzz:
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Yep, I wouldn't expect much better. :mad: :cool2:
 
If the sun was lighting up the trail wouldn't it be red?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning

Also what if it is mixed? What if it is both a missile launch and a reaction of the electrified atmosphere to the missile?
 
monotonic said:
If the sun was lighting up the trail wouldn't it be red?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning

Also what if it is mixed? What if it is both a missile launch and a reaction of the electrified atmosphere to the missile?
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No, it wouldn't be red, because the red comes from the absorption rate in the atmosphere when the light have to travel long distances, so that only the long waves of the visible sectrum reaches the eyes. The short wavelength's are absorbed within a certain traveling distance.

The trail was not red because the distance between the observer and the trail was quite short so the reflected light that reached the eyes of the observer still contains most of it's spectral colors, because the distance between above, where the rocket went was much closer and therefore a shorter traveling distance for the light than when the sun is at the horizon on the morning or at the evening when the light then have to travel a way longer way through the atmosphere (and appear red).

Everything that can be seen on the footages perfectly explains what was visible from the ground and why it appeared that way. You don't even need electric phenomenons add to the mix to make it fit, though it could be possible that the particle distribution due to electromagnetic forces shaped the trail in the way he appeared (thinking about lines and edges) but if this happened, it also must happen by all rocket launches. The only difference is, that this time the sunlight came in at the right angle at the right time to make it visible.

Its a beautiful thing to observe and if its been understood in a scientific way, it becomes even more beautiful since it shows how many factors needs to match to make such a thing visible. There is really no need to suspect a cover-up or something along this line.
 
Like what Session from Feb.-13-11 had to say about a similar occurrence that looks identical.

Sure be raining a lot lately......:whistle:

Meteor Falls Over Bangkok
09 September 2015 ( Last updated at 13:13 )
_https://onewayjapan.com/News-World-News/2015/31-Meteor-Falls-Over-Bangkok.html

IRAN METEOR STRIKES & 'HEAT WAVE' - Why NASA & West Media COVER-UP,
July 31
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NyEekHgEcU

METEOR FALLS IN ARGENTINA CAUSING A GREEN SKY
(July 30th, 2015)
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrks3hTtl9U

Huge Fireballs Light Up U.S. Skies
Published on Aug 22, 2015
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OLo4NR8Ws

Session 13 Feb 2011
Laura, Ark, Belibaste, Perceval, Andromeda, Ailen, Galaxia, Psyche, Mr. Scott, Burma Jones, PoB, Atriedes

Q: (Perceval) The thing that we thought was a comet over Kazakhstan, was it a rocket from the Russians as reported?

A: No.

Q: (Perceval) Was it a comet?

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) It looked like a comet from what we know about comets.

A: Fragment. Expect a lot of the "rocket launch" excuses. If it was really a "rocket launch" they would have been able to announce it in advance.

Q: (Perceval) According to the two people who recorded the UFO over Jerusalem and the comet, they seemed to happen at very close to the same time. Was there any connection between the two?

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) What was the connection?

A: Thinning of the veil. Electrical phenomena can do that.

Q: (Perceval) Would the UFO that was there normally not have been visible, but was seen because of the thinning of the veil?

A: More or less. The electric charges also can affect human perception.

Q: (Andromeda) Was the thinning of the veil also responsible for the UFO some people saw at PaleoFest?

A: Oh indeed! But here the reason was a network enhancement of perception.
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https://youtu.be/5Ijct3zO1mM


https://youtu.be/MhYJH9dhq1g

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no man's land said:
This phenomenon can be observed through all rocket launches because if the atmospheric pressure lessens the higher the rocket gets, the exhaust fume gets wider and wider until the rocket reaches the vaccum of space and the particles of the fumes then expand more or less solely to their last moving impulse they got in the thrust nozzle without to collide with the atmosphere anymore that forces the fumes into a narrow line.
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Yes, this was an Atlas V rocket launch, but I doubt their explanation that the trail was like that because it was 'lit up by the Sun'. This 'luminescent' effect is not normally produced during rocket launches, which are regularly scheduled for fair weather at this time of day. Going by the collection of videos of this type of trail in recent years, however, it does appear to be happening more and more often.

What has changed, if anything, is that we're getting to see the trail because the chemical/electrical composition of the atmosphere is changing, which also affects the exhaust from the rocket and makes it 'luminescent'. All bodies - natural and man-made - passing in or out of the atmosphere produce electrically-charged plasma, but these days they seem to be producing more of it and/or the atmospheric plasma itself is behaving in strange new ways.
 
Niall said:
no man's land said:
This phenomenon can be observed through all rocket launches because if the atmospheric pressure lessens the higher the rocket gets, the exhaust fume gets wider and wider until the rocket reaches the vaccum of space and the particles of the fumes then expand more or less solely to their last moving impulse they got in the thrust nozzle without to collide with the atmosphere anymore that forces the fumes into a narrow line.
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Yes, this was an Atlas V rocket launch, but I doubt their explanation that the trail was like that because it was 'lit up by the Sun'. This 'luminescent' effect is not normally produced during rocket launches, which are regularly scheduled for fair weather at this time of day. Going by the collection of videos of this type of trail in recent years, however, it does appear to be happening more and more often.

What has changed, if anything, is that we're getting to see the trail because the chemical/electrical composition of the atmosphere is changing, which also affects the exhaust from the rocket and makes it 'luminescent'. All bodies - natural and man-made - passing in or out of the atmosphere produce electrically-charged plasma, but these days they seem to be producing more of it and/or the atmospheric plasma itself is behaving in strange new ways.
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Unfortunately, the recordings didn't show the moment when the rocket reached the sunlight from the perspective of the rocket-camera, so it's impossible to compare the surface recording when the trail starts to light up with the on-board recording. Here for example:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/go-for-launch/os-atlas-v-launch-time-now-618-am-20150902-post.html

at minute 6:48, one can see that the sun casts a distinct shadow from the rocket on the exhaust fumes, that means the rocket already reached the sunlight. If there would be simultaneous recordings from the rocket and the ground, and both would show that the trail starts to light up in the same moment the sun starts to cast the shadow, then its highly probable that the sun is the main contributor to the lightshow. But there are a few seconds between a dark rocket and in the next cut, the rocket is bright already. Between this time, the trail started to glow. It's a guess that leaving the shadow and the beginning of the glow happens at the same time.

However, it's true that such things seem to happen more often these days and I also wonder why such things weren't recorded before, especially in times when way more rockets went into space than today. I also consider the possibility that the fumes acted as a conductive plasmatrail and if the rocket left the shielding effect of the shadow of the earth, getting exposed to the radiation and charged particles from the sun, it might be something like "closing the circuit" between the upper atmosphere and the surface or some part of the lower atmosphere, thus causing the luminescence. Both explanations aren't mutually exclusive since they fit both with the observed timeframe when the rocket left the shadow of the earth and maybe even enhanced each other.
 
Niall said:
no man's land said:
This phenomenon can be observed through all rocket launches because if the atmospheric pressure lessens the higher the rocket gets, the exhaust fume gets wider and wider until the rocket reaches the vaccum of space and the particles of the fumes then expand more or less solely to their last moving impulse they got in the thrust nozzle without to collide with the atmosphere anymore that forces the fumes into a narrow line.
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Yes, this was an Atlas V rocket launch, but I doubt their explanation that the trail was like that because it was 'lit up by the Sun'. This 'luminescent' effect is not normally produced during rocket launches, which are regularly scheduled for fair weather at this time of day. Going by the collection of videos of this type of trail in recent years, however, it does appear to be happening more and more often.

What has changed, if anything, is that we're getting to see the trail because the chemical/electrical composition of the atmosphere is changing, which also affects the exhaust from the rocket and makes it 'luminescent'. All bodies - natural and man-made - passing in or out of the atmosphere produce electrically-charged plasma, but these days they seem to be producing more of it and/or the atmospheric plasma itself is behaving in strange new ways.
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Another recent example.
U-tuber Comment:
Atlas V Launch of Morelos-3 October 2, 2015
We left at 4:15 AM from Palm Coast and made it to Titusville just in time for the launch.
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https://youtu.be/HE5N1_C6aQQ

Not a peep about about the plasma phenomena. But it becomes very visible (at 3:33 seconds) from the payload platform traveling at approx. Mach 7 or 6000 mph.
Atlas V 421 - Morelos 3 Launch - Octob]er 2, 2015
Spaceflight101

https://youtu.be/zoe7owTJTUo
 
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