Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

goyacobol said:
josev,

While Hillary may be a broken machine that deserves as much sympathy as the next psychopath, I think she most likely will do great damage if elected. Of course that can be said for Donald Trump as well. I haven't noticed anyone here being misogynistic in their comments. I see hate and criticism directed at both Hilary and Trump in what seems to be fairly equal proportion to me.

I have heard people say "Well all politicians lie, that's normal." . We have been programmed to just accept lying as normal behavior but if we continue to approve of this I think we will pay a very high price. FWIW :(

Hi goyacobol,

Did you read the entire article?

I think I don't understand what you mean, why Killary deserve sympathy for being voted? That's what the writer ask in my opinion, I don't know whether naively or knowing what he is doing, ignoring the psychopathy and saying that all are only wounded people who want the best for us and we need an "insane level of cognitive dissonance" to learn to love them. "We only learn to love flawed men" and give two psychopathic characters. "The people should learn to love sycho women like Killary too", I'm misunderstood it? :D

Viola Davis is slowly balancing the antihero gender scales as Annalise Keating on How To Get Away With Murder. But like Clinton, she's frequently asked why her complex female character isn’t more likable. And as Davis points out to Variety, that’s just not something we question about male antiheroes like Tony Soprano and Hannibal Lecter. We find those characters inherently appealing despite the fact that they’re deeply flawed. Yet we struggle to do the same with imperfect female leads.
 
josev said:
goyacobol said:
josev,

While Hillary may be a broken machine that deserves as much sympathy as the next psychopath, I think she most likely will do great damage if elected. Of course that can be said for Donald Trump as well. I haven't noticed anyone here being misogynistic in their comments. I see hate and criticism directed at both Hilary and Trump in what seems to be fairly equal proportion to me.

I have heard people say "Well all politicians lie, that's normal." . We have been programmed to just accept lying as normal behavior but if we continue to approve of this I think we will pay a very high price. FWIW :(

Hi goyacobol,

Did you read the entire article?

I think I don't understand what you mean, why Killary deserve sympathy for being voted? That's what the writer ask in my opinion, I don't know whether naively or knowing what he is doing, ignoring the psychopathy and saying that all are only wounded people who want the best for us and we need an "insane level of cognitive dissonance" to learn to love them. "We only learn to love flawed men" and give two psychopathic characters. "The people should learn to love sycho women like Killary too", I'm misunderstood it? :D

Viola Davis is slowly balancing the antihero gender scales as Annalise Keating on How To Get Away With Murder. But like Clinton, she's frequently asked why her complex female character isn’t more likable. And as Davis points out to Variety, that’s just not something we question about male antiheroes like Tony Soprano and Hannibal Lecter. We find those characters inherently appealing despite the fact that they’re deeply flawed. Yet we struggle to do the same with imperfect female leads.

josev,

I am sorry I didn't read the entire article before posting since I was mostly surprised that your summary seemed to agree with the article that Hillary was a victim of misogyny.

http://boingboing.net/2016/09/15/to-find-hillary-clinton-likabl.html said:
Essentially what Clinton is saying is that the stiltedness of her public persona is a kind of self-preservation tactic born out of years of brutal misogyny.

My mention of sympathy was not meant as a vote for Hillary. It is a bit like having "Stockholm Syndrome" to sympathize with psychopaths I suppose but some psychopathic personalities are influenced by their environment I think. Many grow up in families that can be brutal in discipline and cruel in their punishments for minor childhood disobedient behaviors. It is not an endorsement or approval of psychopaths to try to understand them but you can be easily confused as Andrew Lobaczewski talks about in Political Ponerology.

The article does make some good points I think but maybe Hillary is not the best choice to illustrate those points. The author does not always give examples to prove some points such as Hillary's competence to be president:
Particularly as I try to wrap my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton is on one hand the most qualified human being to ever run for president of the United States, and, on the other, one of the most disliked presidential candidates of all time.

I am still not sure how you feel about the article. I find it it seems to have some valid points but I just don't think it considers some of what I would consider deeper aspects of the picture such as psychopaths running for the office of the president. Like you, I am not sure if the author is just naive or has an agenda to endorse a candidate. :huh: :/
 
Wikileaks Expose the Saudis Paid Hillary to Turn Libya Into an ISIS Hellhole… Saudis are as of now, funding approximately 20% of the entire Clinton campaign for U.S. president.

It’s called the “tick tock” email, just recently released by Wikileaks. The email shows Hillary Clinton’s office outlining how Mrs. Clinton must be given full credit for what took place in Libya before and after the fall of the Gaddafi regime – a fall that resulted in a missing 1.5 billion dollars sent to Libya by Hillary Clinton, the subsequent death of four Americans, including the first U.S. ambassador to die on duty in more than thirty years, and thousands more deaths as Libya descended into anarchy.

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And it was all done after the House of Saud wished it so – the very same House of Saud that has“donated” millions to the Clinton Foundation and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

And here is the tick-tock email showing how badly Hillary Clinton wanted credit for Libya.

Since the country has fallen into chaos and become an ISIS stronghold, Mrs. Clinton and her campaign don’t wish to discuss it anymore…
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_https://tomfernandez28.com/2016/09/17/wikileaks-expose-the-saudis-paid-hillary-to-turn-libya-into-an-isis-hellhole/

[From the above]
Now here is a bit of history the Mainstream Media has said almost nothing about. The reason for its deletion is simple – it directly links to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and what took place with the fall of Libya in 2011.

For years, Gadaffi and the House of Saud were embroiled in a long-standing dispute over who was the true and rightful representative of Islamic power in the Middle East – though the dispute had more to do with Libya’s growing influence in oil production. Libyan oil is among the best in the world, commanding a top-dollar price, a fact that was not lost on the Saudi royal family who did not appreciate competition in that regard.

Gaddafi, unlike other Muslim leaders, was willing to openly challenge the House of Saud, and claim it was joined too closely with the American government, a challenge that in this video, was met with the following response from the Saudi King:

“The lie is before you, and the grave is in front of you.”


Some two years after this altercation, Gadaffi was killed via an effort orchestrated and funded by the Obama government and the Hillary Clinton State Department. The grave truly was put in front of him – by Hillary Clinton.

The House of Saud has since donated between $10 and 2$5 MILLION dollars to the Clinton Foundation and continues to donate to the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Saudi Arabia Has Funded 20% Of Hillary’s Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims


In what may be the pinnacle of hypocrisy, moments ago Hillary Clinton, while speaking live on national security and addressing the Orlando shooting took some time from her constant bashing of the Second Amendment and calling for a ban on assault rifles, to say some less than kind words about Saudi Arabia whom it accused of supporting radical organizations. This is what she said:
The third area that demands attention is preventing radicalization and countering efforts by ISIS and other international terrorist networks to recruit in the United States and Europe. For starters, it is long past time for the Saudis, the Qataris and the Kuwaitis and others to stop their citizens from funding extremist organizations. And they should stop supporting radical schools and mosques around the world that have set too many young people on a path towards extremism. We also have to use all our capabilities to counter jihadist propaganda online. This is something that I spend a lot of time on at the State Department.
There is nothing wrong with that statement, as it is the whole truth – Saudi Arabia’s involvement in supporting terrorism stretches from Sept 11 all the way through to ISIS – however, where there is a big, and potentially law-breaking, problem is what Jordan’s official news agency, Petra News Agency, reported on Sunday citing the Saudi crown price, namely that Saudi Arabia is a major funder of Hillary Clinton’s campaign to become the next president of the United States.

As MEE notes, the Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate’s campaign.
_http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims
And so the machinations continue both here in the US & in the continuing confrontations w/ Syria & Russia - and Israel/Saudis allied players as well. Separating the disinformation from the actual facts is even more challenging than ever. Will 'October surprise' = SHTF? For sure, WW 3 will cancel Prez elections w/ suspected homeland FBI enabled terror cells allowing martial law & Obummer and his neocon global consortium will continue to rule:
OBAMA TO UN: U.S. MUST “ACCEPT CONSTRAINTS” ON SOVEREIGNTY IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH UN GOALS

[9/21/16] In what is likely his final address to the United Nations General Assembly, President Barack Obama (shown at UN) offered what he described as the “broad strokes” of a “course correction” necessary to achieve “global integration.”

In order to “to carry this progress forward,” the president said that he is “convinced that in the long run, giving up some freedom of action … binding ourselves to international rules over the long term — enhances our security.”

Next, although not mentioning Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump by name, Obama warned of the dangers of pursuing an Americanist agenda. Speaking of the need for “global integration,” Obama warned that “aggressive nationalism” and “a crude populism” — a vision promoted by the “far right” — fails to embrace “our common humanity.”
_http://www.govtslaves.info/obama-to-un-u-s-must-accept-constraints-on-sovereignty-in-order-to-accomplish-un-goals/
And there it is - Agenda 21/2030! Killary is probably too far gone for the full-blown implementation, so Obummer will have to stay on the throne.

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The CHAMPIONS of Democracy - the men who laid the groundwork for the NWO. What a happy bunch!
"We say to them: you are sad and vanquished -- we are happy."
 
According to this article: Hillary and Trump - Les Deplorables written by Pepe Escobar, Trump has big chances to win the presidential campaign, and that Donald is actually an insider, thus is being helped by the PTB otherwise he won't be receiving so much attention from the corporate controlled western media (which it seem pretty logical conclusion to me), anyway i recommend reading the article, Pepe Escobar writes nothing new concerning this subject but still it shows that both candidates Killary and Trumpy are just opposite sides of the same coin.
 
Andre' said:
According to this article: Hillary and Trump - Les Deplorables written by Pepe Escobar, Trump has big chances to win the presidential campaign, and that Donald is actually an insider, thus is being helped by the PTB otherwise he won't be receiving so much attention from the corporate controlled western media (which it seem pretty logical conclusion to me), anyway i recommend reading the article, Pepe Escobar writes nothing new concerning this subject but still it shows that both candidates Killary and Trumpy are just opposite sides of the same coin.

Yep - Israel is calling the shots. And we know who they're in cohoots with.
 
Andre' said:
According to this article: Hillary and Trump - Les Deplorables written by Pepe Escobar, Trump has big chances to win the presidential campaign, and that Donald is actually an insider, thus is being helped by the PTB otherwise he won't be receiving so much attention from the corporate controlled western media (which it seem pretty logical conclusion to me), anyway i recommend reading the article, Pepe Escobar writes nothing new concerning this subject but still it shows that both candidates Killary and Trumpy are just opposite sides of the same coin.

Pepe makes very valid points as to the "dynamic silence" control of the media and the puppeteers. There is also a strange rumor now that if the Obama administration were to continue due to WW3 threats and false flags in the US to seal the deal, Michelle Obama may replace Hillary due to health and email disclosures. It seems far-fetched to me that Michelle would run but here is one video that shows some of the Hillary health coverage and the congressional overseer committees' hearings:


https://youtu.be/YWsDln1Ksd0
 
As Trump appeals to black voters, Gary recalls casino deal

Donald Trump swooped into Gary, Indiana, on his private jet and pledged to make the down-on-its-luck city great again.

It was 1993, and the New York mogul was wooing officials in the mostly black city to support his bid to dock a showboat casino along a Lake Michigan shoreline littered with shuttered factories. Trump and his representatives later told state gaming officials he would leverage his "incomparable experience" to build a floating Shangri-La, with enough slot machines and blackjack tables to fill city coffers and local charities with tens of millions each year, while creating scores of well-paid jobs for minority residents.

"We are looking to make this a real peach here, a real success," Trump said of the project.

Today, as the Republican presidential nominee pursues black voters with vows to fix inner-city troubles, many Gary residents say his pitch to solve the problems of crime and poverty is disturbingly familiar. Like others who have done business with Trump, they say their experience offers a cautionary tale.

Little more than a decade after investing in Gary, Trump's casino company declared bankruptcy and cashed out his stake in the boat — leaving behind lawsuits and hard feelings in a city where more than one-third of residents live in poverty. Trump's lawyers later argued in court that his pledges to the city were never legally binding. Trump told The Associated Press that his venture was good for Gary.


Local civic leaders disagree.

"What you had was a slick business dealer coming in," said Roy Pratt, a Democratic former Gary city councilman. "He got as much as he could and then he pulled up and left."

Gary is a victim of the economic shifts Trump has bemoaned on the campaign trail. Just 30 miles southeast of Chicago, Gary's fortunes fell with the steel industry. The remaining 77,000 residents abide persistent crime and chronic unemployment.

In a presentation to the Indiana Gaming Commission in 1994, Trump's team touted his "superior marketing and advertising abilities" to pitch a 340-foot long vessel called Trump Princess with more than 1,500 slot machines.

To sweeten the pot, Trump's representatives said they would try to ensure that at least two-thirds of the casino's staff would be minority residents from the surrounding area, according to a transcript.

He offered to fund a new charitable foundation endowed with casino stock worth $11.5 million. His official proposal also listed eight "local minority participants" in the project, a diverse group of Indiana businessmen.

The state gaming commission eventually awarded Trump a casino license. A May 1996 agreement signed by the Trump organization said the developer would "endeavor" to fill 70 percent of its 1,200 full-time jobs with minorities. Trump was to invest $153 million.

The eight business partners in Trump's license application had been offered a chance to buy shares worth more than $1 million, but most didn't have the money.

So both sides negotiated a deal — for no cash up front — offering the group 7.5 percent of the stock for the riverboat and another 7.5 percent into a trust for charity.

However, the men said Trump reneged once the license was approved. None got stock in the casino, and the money for charity was less than promised.

All eight sued for breach of contract, alleging they were dumped after Trump's license was approved.

As construction proceeded in spring 1996, Trump's company began hiring in advance of the casino's grand opening in June. But his commitments to hire minorities and local businesses never came to fruition, according to local leaders.

"It simply did not happen," said Richard Hatcher, a Democrat who was Gary's first African-American mayor.

Hatcher helped bring a 1996 lawsuit alleging Trump's organization had only hired about 20 percent minorities. Though more than half of Trump's casino staff was eventually made up of racial minorities, the lawsuit said blacks were overwhelmingly relegated to minimum wage jobs, such as valets and janitors.

Trump's lawyers argued the minority hiring goals were not legally binding and succeeded in getting the lawsuit dismissed.


The other lawsuit, filed in federal court by the eight jilted business partners, continued. Six of the men dropped out of the case after Trump's company agreed to pay them a combined $2.2 million, but two refused to settle.

The jury awarded them $1.3 million. But Trump appealed, and in 2001 a federal appeals panel overturned the jury's award, saying their agreements with Trump's company had not been legally binding.

In 2004, Trump Hotel & Casino Resorts Inc., the parent company of the Gary casino, sought Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Trump sought to restructure $1.8 billion in debt, much of it tied to hotels and casinos in New Jersey and New York.

Trump sold his company's stake in the Gary casino the following year for $253 million. According to financial disclosures, the proceeds from the sale were used to shore up the financial condition of Trump's other casino and resort properties.
Through his spokeswoman, Trump told the AP he stood by his record.

"It worked out very well and was very good for Gary, Indiana," Trump said.


The riverboat is still docked in Gary's industrial harbor. On a recent workday, a sparse jeans-and-sweat-pants crowd lined up for the serve-yourself soda and coffee between games.

Asked about Trump's recent "What do you have to lose?" pitch to black voters, former Indiana gaming commissioner David Ross said it would be a bad bet.

"What you have to know is that Trump is for Trump and he's not for any black voters or anybody," Ross said. "What he's looking for is to make some money for Trump."

_http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2f9e391f09834dff9de3f6707339189a/years-after-casino-went-bust-gary-still-skeptical-trump

Trump's pledge to make Gary, IN 'Great Again' didn't happen & ultimately only served his interests. And his interests appear to be aligned w/ Israel's as well. He's made it clear that he has a very high opinion of how they do things over there. He'll be only too happy to do it over here & as Prez, we can expect it. And he'll get a Supreme Court to make it all "legally binding".


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Yeah, right! In case you haven't figured it out . . .

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No invitation to Putin?

Israeli Prime Minister to Hold Talks With Clinton, Trump in New York

https://sputniknews.com/us/20160924/1045653039/netanyahu-talks-trump-hillary-clinton.html

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will hold meetings with US Democratic presidential nominee Hilary Clinton and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump in New York on Sunday, the Haaretz newspaper reports.

The meetings will be held separately and Netanyahu’s meeting with Trump was agreed upon first, a senior Israeli source told Haaretz on Friday.

On September 14, the United States signed a 10-year $38 billion security MOU with Israel that represents the largest single bilateral pledge of defense aid in US history. The agreement consists of $33 billion in foreign military financing and $5 billion in missile defense. The MOU is set to go into effect from fiscal year 2019 through 2028, replacing the previous MOU, which granted Israel $3.1 billion annually.

After the agreement had been signed, Netanyahu faced intense criticism from his political rivals, claiming that his political disagreements with US President Barack Obama had led to a dramatic cut in the amount of the US military aid.


More accusations toward Russia?

Clinton Left Classified Data in Russian Hotel During State Secretary Trip - FBI

https://sputniknews.com/us/20160924/1045654585/clinton-classified-documents-russia.html

US Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton forgot classified documents at a hotel in Russia during a trip as secretary of state, documents released by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation show.

The documents, released on Friday and cited by ABC News, show that when Clinton was on a trip to Russia while serving as US secretary of state, her aide brought a classified briefing book into the hotel suite. The classified documents were left behind when the aide and Clinton left the room.

According to the FBI documents, the briefing book should not have been brought into the hotel suite in Russia.

Most of Clinton’s emails recovered by the FBI will reportedly not be made public until after the US presidential elections in November.

The Judicial Watch has filed a lawsuit demanding that all 14,900 of Clinton’s emails uncovered by the FBI be released.

In 2014, Clinton released over 55,000 emails to US State Department investigators, stating that the documents contained only work-related information. She has admitted to erasing 33,000 emails.
 
Scott Adams, cited before in this thread, announced today that he switched his support from Killary: _http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to

As most of you know, I had been endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, for my personal safety, because I live in California. It isn’t safe to be a Trump supporter where I live. And it’s bad for business too. But recently I switched my endorsement to Trump, and I owe you an explanation. So here it goes.

Most of his explanations are some irrelevant technicalities but a few details are

To my untrained eyes and ears, Hillary Clinton doesn’t look sufficiently healthy – mentally or otherwise – to be leading the country.

or

And being chummy with Putin is more likely to keep us safe, whether you find that distasteful or not. Clinton wants to insult Putin into doing what we want. That approach seems dangerous as hell to me.

So maybe some people, even with no profound knowledge of ponerology, can sometimes see how pathological Killary (and those behind her) can be.
 
sToRmR1dR said:
Israeli Prime Minister to Hold Talks With Clinton, Trump in New York

https://sputniknews.com/us/20160924/1045653039/netanyahu-talks-trump-hillary-clinton.html


An important excerpt from Session 20 January 1996: :)

[...]

Q: (W) Well, I am just coming in in the middle and I don't know what has been asked before. Who is the most likely candidate to be elected president this year?

A: Well, this is not of great importance, as the president does not make the decisions, but it is likely to be Dole, as the points are aligning now. But, there is a lot to be seen between now and then. Future is open.

[...]


Trump tells Netanyahu he would recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-netanyahu-idUSKCN11V0Q6

U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Sunday told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that if elected, the United States would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the campaign said, marking a potential dramatic shift in U.S. policy.

During the meeting that lasted more than an hour at Trump Tower in New York, Trump told Netanyahu that under his administration, the United States would "recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel."

While Israel calls Jerusalem its capital, few other countries accept that, including the United States. Most nations maintain embassies in Tel Aviv.

Palestinians want East Jerusalem, captured by Israel in a 1967 war, as capital of the state they aim to establish alongside Israel in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Netanyahu held a separate meeting later on Sunday that lasted just under an hour with Democrat Hillary Clinton, Trump's rival in the Nov. 8 U.S. election.

Clinton emphasized her commitment to the U.S.-Israel relationship and her plan to take the relationship to the next level, according to a statement from her campaign.

She also talked about her commitment to a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict "that guarantees Israel’s future as a secure and democratic Jewish state with recognized borders and provides the Palestinians with independence, sovereignty, and dignity," according to the statement.

"Secretary Clinton reaffirmed her opposition to any attempt by outside parties to impose a solution, including by the U.N. Security Council," the statement said.

During the meeting with Trump, the Republican candidate's campaign said he agreed with Netanyahu that peace in the Middle East could only be achieved when "the Palestinians renounce hatred and violence and accept Israel as a Jewish State."

The Trump campaign said he and Netanyahu discussed "at length" Israel's border fence, cited by Trump in reference to his own controversial immigration policies, which include building a wall on the U.S.- Mexico border and temporarily banning Muslims from entering the country.

Other regional issues, including the fight against Islamic State, U.S. military assistance to Israel - "an excellent investment" - and the Iran nuclear deal, which both parties have criticized, were also discussed.


Clinton meets Netanyahu, rejects UN solution for Palestine

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/09/26/486421/US-Clinton-trump-Netanyahu-Israel-Palestine

US Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has told Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that she opposes a UN-brokered solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, pledging to fight efforts to “delegitimize” the Tel Aviv regime.

The former US secretary of state and Netanyahu met at a hotel in Manhattan, New York, on Sunday evening, hours after the Israeli PM’s meeting with Clinton’s Republican rival, Donald Trump.

During the meeting, Clinton endorsed the two-state solution for the ongoing conflict in Palestine, but also expressed “her opposition to any attempt by outside parties to impose a solution,” including the UN Security Council, her campaign said in a statement.

Clinton doubled down on “her commitment to countering attempts to delegitimize Israel, including through the BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) movement,” the statement further read.

The BDS movement was initiated in 2005 by over 170 Palestinian organizations that were pushing for “various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law.”

Since then, thousands of volunteers worldwide have joined the BDS to help promote the Palestinian cause.

The former first lady also backed Washington’s military support for Tel Aviv, saying that a “strong and secure Israel” was vital to the US.

Washington has been providing the Israeli regime with $3.1 billion annually since 2007, under a 10-year agreement with the administration of former president George W. Bush. The figure was recently raised to $3.8 billion for the next decade.

Earlier in the day, Netanyahu went to the Trump Tower in New York City to meet with the billionaire businessman.

During the 90-minute meeting, Trump promised Netanyahu that he will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the state of Israel,” the candidate’s campaign said in a statement.

He described East Jerusalem al-Quds, occupied by Israel since 1967, as “the eternal capital of the Jewish people.”

Like Clinton, Trump backed America’s military support for Israel, hailing it as an “excellent investment for America.”

Netanyahu, who was being accompanied by Israeli ambassador to Washington Ron Dermer during the meetings, thanked both candidates for their “friendship and support for Israel.”
 
Pashalis said:
Here is the live stream of the debate that will start in about 1-2 days:


https://youtu.be/XkoKMKwwsZ8

It isn't the best quality, I couldn't find a better one yet.

CNN is so obvious with using that video pic. Trump all retarded and Hillary collected. Propaganda for dummies.

Quality is fine, thanks Pashalis.


I just watched some of the MSM Hosts on that livestream and regret doing so.

They invited a ''Professional women'' to discuss how sexism can be prevented in the debates. What the hell is a professional women? And do amateur women fail to find the kitchen? I would like to ask her, because if you are discussing sexism, maybe they shouldn't use such distinctions, I find it all heavily confusing.

But jokingly aside, she as a professional women hopes that aggressive states such ISIS, Syria, China, Russia, and North Korea will be discussed. All the problems of the US lie always externally of course, never internally.

Oh and she hammered on security. Americans demand more safety, terrorists are everywhere.


And whatever happens during the debate let's not anticipate ofcourse, who knows what happens. Not-anticipation is difficult but the trick is I think to have Faith. Meaning you trust the Universe will provide you with lessons in whatever shape they come. You don't know what is really best for the Universe, you are here to learn. So don't strongly anticipate what you think should happen during the debates or not. Wait and see and try to take everything as a lesson.
 
Presidential election 2016: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

The show called the presidential debate is about to start, with the first debate starting at 9pm EST on September the 26th, which is at 3am Western European time September the 27th.

Here is a livestreaming link of the event _http://presidentialdebate-2016.com/live-streaming-presidential-debate/

The 'debate' has a duration of 90 minutes and is set up in this way:

The first debate will be divided into six time segments of approximately 15 minutes each on major topics to be selected by the moderator and announced at least one week before the debate. The moderator will open each segment with a question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. Candidates will then have an opportunity to respond to each other. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a deeper discussion of the topic.

Will Killary :whlchair: finally keel over? Will Russia be the scapegoat for everything? :violin: Will Donalds motormouth run away from him :offtopic: Be prepared, get the sickbags ready :barf:

This should be an interesting study in pathological deviance, so time to get the popcorn ready or coffee if you are in Europe. :rotfl:

Edit: Changed beating a dead horse to a violin, to avoid misunderstandings.
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Aeneas said:
The show called the presidential debate is about to start, with the first debate starting at 9pm EST on September the 26th, which is at 3am Western European time September the 27th.

Here is a livestreaming link of the event _http://presidentialdebate-2016.com/live-streaming-presidential-debate/

The 'debate' has a duration of 90 minutes and is set up in this way:

The first debate will be divided into six time segments of approximately 15 minutes each on major topics to be selected by the moderator and announced at least one week before the debate. The moderator will open each segment with a question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. Candidates will then have an opportunity to respond to each other. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a deeper discussion of the topic.

Will Killary :whlchair: finally keel over? Will Russia be the scapegoat for everything? :deadhorse: Will Donalds motormouth run away from him :offtopic: Be prepared, get the sickbags ready :barf:

This should be an interesting study in pathological deviance, so time to get the popcorn ready or coffee if you are in Europe. :rotfl:
I'll be sleeping but looking forward to catch up with events tomorrow morning. Got a feeling it may well be the same staged let down we often get but you never know???
 
Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

No way I can ruin my sleep for that. But I sure hope some of the stateside folks will record and comment on it here so that first thing when I get up I can have the scoop!!
 
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