TRANSCRIPT #52 From the Pentagon Strike to the Da Vinci Code Part 2

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2006-06-17 #52 From the Pentagon Strike to the Da Vinci Code and Sex Part 2

From the Pentagon Strike to the Da Vinci Code pt2

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Henry (H):  Welcome to this week’s Signs of Times pod cast. I’m Henry.

Scott (S):   Hi, I’m Scott.

Laura (LKJ):   Hi, I’m Laura.

H:  And this week we have a guest who is going to be sitting in.  The lovely ski bunny Joanne from Colorado.

Joanne (J): Hello, everyone.

LKJ:  Good to have you with this, Joanne.

H:  So on our last pod cast, we began our discussion of Dan Brown’s novel “The Da Vinci Code." We started by looking at the fact that there is a message in the book, not  necessary the code that Dan was talking about, but it’s a book that raises certain questions about Christianity.  We talked about how this aspect of it bypasses people’s logical minds.   These people look around them and they see the role of Christianity in the world and the other religions in the world.  And they see that they don’t live up to what they pretend to be that the world is not better off for 2000 or more years of these teachings, and so they’re posing questions.  We then gave a brief overview of  the history of Christianity beginning with a brief look at the Q document, which is the document that scholars say is the source of the teachings of a man who is come to be known as Jesus.  We then looked at the formation of Christianity under Constantine and some of the work of Graham Philips in his book “The Mary and Conspiracy� , where he began looking at the question of the grail and some dark secret that it is supposed to be  held in the secret library of the Vatican.  And we finished by looking at… touching a bit on the songs of the Solomon and what the real meaning of that would be.  And so that’s what we’ll pick up today.

LKJ:   Thank you Henry. The important thing that I think we need to consider is the fact that people are becoming more and more aware that the monotheistic religions, Judaism which gave a birth to Christianity, and then also inspired Islam, have not moved humanity any closer to finding the solutions to the pressing problems of civilization of man his relationship to the earth, his relationship to other man, and his relationship to the cosmos.

H:    And that should be clear to pretty much anybody who looks out on the world today. That shouldn’t be a shocking statement.

LKJ:   Yeah if we got two neurons firing you can see that we’re standing on the brisk and we are ready to fall in at the any moment.  And it’s not going to take too much to set off a global holocaust from which humanity may not emerge alive.  So these are very very important questions at this time and people are very frightened inside themselves.  Even the people who try to live in denial are aware and more people are becoming aware each day and being forced to face the cold hard facts as the economy tanks, and as the effects of the aggressive occupation of Iraq continue.  And more and more people in the United States are having their children come home in boxes.  Soon it is going to be so that there won’t be a family in the United States that doesn’t have a relative or friend who’s come home in a box.  And when that happens, I feel rather sorry for George Bush and the Neocons because people are going to wake up.  But in any event, we also talked last week about the Pentagon Strike and the fact that our Pentagons Strike video was being shown at the Cannes film festival and right at the time that George Bush and the Neocons decided to release their amazing footage of what hit the Pentagon, you know, the blurry little nose cone… which completely bombed.  I think it did more to contribute to people being convinced that there was no fight 77 at the Pentagon than anything else.  But in any event…

H:   Laura, you know, that is just a set up.  They going to come out with a tape that’s got the clear images any day now.

LKJ:   Oh yeah, well, Bring it on us.  As George Bush would say. (laughter)
But getting back to Dan Brown.  Dan Brown…it’s ..it’s kind of a cipher.  Because on the one hand, he wrote this book that really touches a lot of people and it touches them for reasons a quite different from what you might expect as you’ve outlined already.  So the question is why and how did this book become widely popular because quite frankly as a life long reader of you know, some voluminous capacity, I have to say it’s not a really very good book .  It has its moments that are you know, that are.. for somebody who wants some entertaining reading, it has moments that are entertaining.  But it is so imposable and most of the dialog and the activity it is really completely cheesy.  And for somebody who is familiar with “The Facts of the Hidden History of the World� , it’s beyond cheesy it’s insulting to your intelligence.

(Laugher)

LKJ:   For example, we have here Dan Brown’s famous tomb.  I need to mention that I actually read this book on the train back from Paris.  Last year we took our girls up to the Paris to go to the Louvre and we spent the day there and I had heard about the book you know, the several people have said, “Oh, have you ever read “The Da Vinci Code� ?�  you know, “No I haven’t read “The Da Vinci Code� � ….nadadadadada.  And since they had mentioned that it was based on Lincoln, Leigh, and Baigent’s “Holy Blood, Holy Grail� , I wasn’t really too interested in reading it because I’d already read all of that material and I had pretty much exploded it in some articles, in a series of articles called the “Grail Quest�  and we published on our website back in 1999/2000.  I did a lot of research on the so-called the Priory of Sion and came to the  inescapable conclusion that it was just a big fraud.  But I’ll get into to that in a minute because right now I want to tell you what Dan Brown wrote about the Priory of Sion.  And believe me, the information that it was a fraud was available on the internet and not just from my own articles because my articles were based on the research of some people who were on site who went to the archives who did some digging did some you know, first hand observation and analysis.  And there are several very fine books, factual books written about it, which were available to Dan Brown, but he didn’t bother to do his homework. This is what he wrote about…

H:   Or his wife didn’t bother to do his homework

LKJ:   Well yeah, oh yeah anybody who was… Anybody who was following the trial you know, where Lincoln, Leigh, and Baigent were suing Dan Brown for plagiarism are probably aware that it was pretty well concluded by the judge that he got most of stuff from his wife who did read “Holy Blood, Holy Grail� , so yeah he did steal some ideas but you know, that’s how the fiction goes you know, people.  You can’t own these ideas and it would only be if he lifted the actual text, you know bodily from their book and used it and he didn’t do that. He wrote the fiction novel, based on their research, and it was perfectly legitimated for him to do that.  But at the same time, he certainly should have given them a little more credit and he should have at least been honest about it and admitted it where he got it from.  But in any event, this is what he says about the Priory of Sion.  Right in the beginning of the book, big bold letters it says “FACT.�

F A C T :

The Priory if Sion— A European secret society founded in 1099 – is a real organization.
In 1975 Paris’s Bibliotheque Nationale Discovered parchments known as Les
Dossiers Secrets, identifying numerous Members of the Priory of Sion, including
Sir Isaac Newton, Botticelli, Victor Hugo, and Leonardo da Vinci.

The Vatican prelature known as Opus Dei is a deeply devout Catholic sect that has been the topic of resent controversy  due to reports of brain-washing, coercion, and a dangerous practice known as “corporal mortification.�  Opus Dei has just completed construction of a $47 million National Headquarters at 243 Lexington Avenue in New York City.

All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel
are accurate.

LKJ:   That is this whole statement that he prefaces with this big bold word FACT, is pure horseshit!  (laughter) There is no other word for it… it’s horse hockey people!  Because number one, the Priory of Sion is NOT a European secret society founded in  1099.  Priory of Sion was a fraud perpetuated by a small time crook in France, name of Pierre Plantard who later added “de St.-Clair�  to his name to give himself heirs.  As I said the information on this is posted in great detail in a series of articles called the Grail Quest on our website called www.cassiopaea.org.  So that’s the first thing.
The second thing is, this issue about Opus Dei.  Now Opus Dei, I’m not going to say too much about that because I’ll let Opus Dei do their own defense.  I’m not into defending Catholic organizations since I’m totally against the whole you know, against the Christian fraud anyway so...  But let’s say that they probably are cult.  They probably are doing weird stuff.  You know anybody who gets into you know whipping themselves or you know, wearing hairshirts or total celibacy and think it’s gonna to get him to heaven are little weird in my book .

H:   Well it was also founded it in under Franco in Spain and had very very close ties to the Fascists.

LKJ:  Yeah, that tells us something too.  When he talks about “The descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.�   Like I said, now  there are maybe some group that engage in these so-called secret rituals like the kinky sex ritual that he describes somewhere around the middle of the book that the poor heroine Sophie witnesses her grandfather performing with some you know um…. “goddess receptacle...   (laughter)  Having a little hard time with terminology here tonight sorry.  Um yes, there are some groups that get into to this kind of weird stuff.  There are some groups that get into stuff that is so weird that you know, maybe one of these days we will do an entire show just on the some of the sick sick crap that goes around and passes as occultism.  But basically as far as the Christian Mythos, it has nothing to do with it.  Absolutely nothing.

H:      But it’s got a lot to do with occultism. (laughter)

LKJ:   Well…it depends on your…

H:       In what occultism is known as today in a

LKJ:   Yeah…well as we mentioned last week, according to the most definitive scholarly research which is being put together and written about by Burton Mack in two books, one is called “Who Wrote the New Testament?�  and the other one is called “The Lost Gospel: The Q document and Origins of Christianity� .  Mack pretty well establishes that - first of all, whoever the man around whom the Jesus legend was formed was first of all, he wasn’t Jewish.  He was probably a Greek or at least you know strongly Hellenic in his background.  He was a Senic philosopher along with the lines of the Senec philosopher.  Interestingly, Mack comments on the fact that there is a strong influence of the so called idea of ‘The kingdom of God’ threading its way through the material of the first and  earliest layer of the last layer of the Q document, which he doesn’t quite understand.  But if you think about it in terms of a group of people who more or less were ready to chuck out the whole religious shtick that they were dealing with at that time the from the all different points of view and a whole social thing and make a social statement and experiment with new ways of being, new ways of relating to the each other and at the same time, retain a certain spirituality because you know, as you might think that the Senic philosopher is pretty much tossed out spirituality, too.  They were very very realist, rationalist, you know, what existed was what you could see, feel, taste, touch, smell.  And they weren’t too much inclined to make spiritual speculations but if you take in…

H:   They were the Richard Dawkins of the era.

LKJ:  Yea they were… you know, blind watchmaker types.

H: Yeah

LKJ:   But whoever was behind this material that came to be known as the Q document they were in a sense very realistic and very scientific and very much involved in observing their reality and experimenting with new ways and new relationships.  And at the same time, they had an unusual concept called ‘The kingdom of God’ which as you know, been quoted, it was within, it was a spiritual condition.  So that is a little bit unusual.  However, it’s not so unusual when you begin to study some of the other spiritual doctrines that have existed continuously for these past 2000 years or more in certain areas of eastern Europe moving even into central Asia.  For example, the influence that later generated the Cathar beliefs came from that area of the world, they were from Bulgaria from you know..

H:   The Bulgamils

LKJ:   Bogamils yes, and there were strong similarities between that and some of the Sufi ideas and I think I mentioned the Sufi Shaykh Ibn al-‘Arabi last week, and then we find that in the construction of the layers of Christianity that the ideas of the crucified, dying and resurrecting god were added to the mix several layers after the first layer of Q and have been identified as originating from northern Syria, which is moving in that direction.  Now if you understand the ancient Siberian Shamanic practices you know that the death of the external self and the birth of the spiritual self, the decent to the underworld or the ascent to the heavens via a ladder, on a horse, by a tree, by some sort of divine sickness where you would fall off sick for number of days and rise from your bed and transformed being.  You know all those are evident in this myth of Jesus, the dying God who died and was buried for 3 days and resurrected and all of this type of ‘spiritual initiatic practice’ is evident in this myth.  So the first problem you have is when people like Lincoln Leigh and Baigent come along and they assume that there is any part of this myth that is historical and then began to try to find you know customs or you know actual historical lynch pins on which to hang a real history to try to prove that you know, a man named Jesus exists, that he was a Jew, and that he married with Mary Magdalene, that they had children and or that she escaped to the France or wherever and gave to a birth a child who then became a progenitor of the Merovingians you know, all of this is pure nonsense and also you have to remember that a lot of what they were writing was based on ideas of that sort that were propagated by a fraud.  A complete fraud.  And if you don’t believe this is a fraud you really need to do some research.

H:   We need to go back and we need to say this and repeat it and say it clearly: The entire story of Jesus coming into Jerusalem, being arrested, being scourged, being taken before Ponchus Pilot, being taking up the mount, caring his cross, being crucified all of that is bogus.

LKJ:  As history.

H:     As  history.

LKJ:   However, it is a stark mythical representation of a true ‘initiatic practice’, and that ‘initiatic practice’ can be found in bits and pieces and traces in some of the most ancient teachings that still continue to exist on this planet.  And those teachings that ‘initiatic practice’ apparently from the best we can determine, actually does lead to a heightened state of being; a permanent change in the being and even in fact possibly what we would called super human powers, so don’t knock that part of it and don’t think that it doesn’t have a seriously important significance, but just do not take it for history.  And forget the whole thing about Jesus being a Jew, Jesus being marrying Mary Magdalene, and having children etc.  Let me just say something about that when I first read Lincoln Leigh and Baigent’s book “Holy blood, Holy Grail� and they repeated some of their stories about the myth of the Mary Magdalene coming to France and bearing the child of Jesus and so on and so forth and that this was something that was well-known in France to the French.  I was little curious about that because at that time and still, my husband has a colleague who lives in Marseille and has lived in Marseille nearly all his life.  He’s a scientist, and he is also very interested in history, he’s kind of an interesting scientist, and he is very funny - he actually looks and talks a little bit like the old Brenner did in his heyday so he is a lot to fun to talk to.  But he is a very serious mathematician.  Stop laughing Henry it’s true! (Laughter)

H:      I know him I know it’s true (Laughter)

LKJ:   Yea, yea…(Laughter) I mean did I peg him? Does he not look like the old Brenner?

H:      You pegged him, you pegged him…

LKJ:   Yea, I mean you just almost expect him to just you know, stand up, shave his head and say “Shall we Dance?�  you know, and do the whole King and I thing.  But in any event, Robert was kind enough to answer some of my questions about this and his information was based on living on site and in the place and having studied these things himself and been interested in them.

H:     We should note that the legends that the authors of the “Hold Blood, Holy Grail�  talk about have Mary Magdalene showing up in France near Marseille, so it is right in that area.

LKJ:   Right and…but then they completely distorted these things.  Because the story actually is, which you know, the French of that region have told and retold for centuries that yes Mary Magdalene showed up on a boat with another Mary, Mary the Egyptian and St. Maximin and she went to an area not too far from Marseille, which is now called Saint Maximin, and she went to living a cave, became a recluse or a penitent and lived her life in prayer and penitence and died there.  And supposedly, her bones were later found and identified as hers, I seriously doubt it - I think they date to the second century.  I’ve been to see it,  I took some photographs, I’ve got some photo albums of these things on our website.  But in any event, there is no legend of Mary Magdalene coming to France and having a child, and that that child went on to become the founder of the Merovingian Dynasty and on the subject of the Merovingians…

( Henry and Laura Laugh)

LKJ:   Ohhhh!!! The Merovingians, the long haired priest kings.  Now, that goes in a whole different direction you know, they were obviously Frankish, and they had the whole long hair thing, and supposedly they had some sort of power, some ability to touch and heal, and all kinds of other legends rose up about them.  But if you actually read you know, go to the sources and read what Gregory of Tours wrote about these early Merovingians, you come immediately to the idea that these are people you wouldn’t invite into your home.  (Laughter)  Now, the fact is at one point in my life I got heavily into genealogy and discovered that you know I myself descend from some of those people through my Percy ancestors and several other branches and reading about them was quite interesting but you know, I realized “Gee!�  you know, who would want to have that blood in their veins?  These people were nuts!  [Henry Laughs]  I mean they were patricidal, matricidal, fratricidal… what’s killing your sister, sistercidal? (laughter) They were evil people!  Who would want to be related to these people?  Who would want to bring them back?!!  You know?…(laughter)
   
“So, we are getting back to the issue of the initiatic secret that it is encoded in Christianity. There is a teaching that has survived for over 2000 years.  And it has been transmitted through the oral traditions of the Eastern Orthodox Church.  These are traditions that are known to a number of teachers of some importance in the eastern European areas some of them are Russian Bulgarian etc.  George Gurdjieff was in touch with some part of this tradition and incorporated it into his experimental promulgation of the ideas that are behind this tradition.  Boris Mouravieff was little more familiar with the direct tradition, possibly not more familiar, but at least he transmitted the tradition itself from the monks on the island of Athos and writing his three volume compendium entitled “Gnosis I II and III� .  Figure that one out.  He talks about the fact that the human being has in his ordinary state three centers.  Gurdjieff talks about the centers also and in similar terms and these centers are the thinking, emotional, and the moving centre.  I suppose if somebody was really interested in trying to figure out how they relate to Freudian or Union psychology you know that they can have fun with that but I don’t think it’s terribly important.  And that there are three higher centers, the higher intellect, the higher emotional and then what was called in a sense, the sexual centre.  And I told you we were gonna talk about sex but I don’t think it’s gonna to be quite the way you wanna hear it but… But the thing is that the higher intellect relates to the thought that gives form to the formlessness of the sexual energy or the creative feminine energy.  And the higher thought or the intellect was depicted as light and this is how it is depicted in the Sufi teachings and the sexual centre or the feminine creative principle was depicted as black and the action of the light upon the or the light of thought or the word you know, the word (in the beginning was the word and the word was with the god, the word was the god) the word, the light acts upon matter in a creative way and matter as the divine mother and I believe I read the passages on that from Ibn al-‘Arabi last week.  The divine mother is that which receives the impression and essentially gives the birth to the forms that are contained in the idea of the light.  Well applying that to a human being you have the possibility of uniting the light, the father and the mother, the black the magnetic centre in your spiritual make up and seating this in your physical body which is essentially what is being asked for when the lords prayers says, “Thy kingdom come (remember ‘The kingdom of God’ is within), Thy will be done on earth ( ‘on earth’ being the sexual centre, the black part of the feminine creative centre), on earth as it is in Heaven�  (‘heaven’ being the higher intellect), so bringing the higher intellect together with the sexual center or the mother and seating it into the physical body was the act or the process of the initiatic sequence that would make human being into literally a superman, as much as can be possible in this reality because of course there are going to be certain limitations by the virtue of the circuitry that the human body is capable of carrying and that depends of course upon on the DNA, so naturally there is a family blood line there is a DNA connection that is necessary to be able to accomplish this to any great degree because if you don’t have the DNA potential to carry those higher circuits of energy you are going to burn yourself out.  But in any event, this process is very precise process it had been carried as an oral tradition for thousands of years, it is probably the exact tradition that was behind the imagery of the mother being impregnated  from heaven giving birth to the divine child who then was crucified and then after three days arouse because this actually describe the process of the initiation of the coming to be, of the bringing together of the higher intellect and the feminine creative principal of the higher centers and then marrying them or bringing them into being or into manifestation in your physical body.  Now we get it a little more precise about these things in some of the articles on our website and in my book “The Secret History of the World�  I talk about it in some length and towards the end of book I began to put the things together and give rather explicit details about the process itself but it’s not a process that you can necessarily undertake on your own, it has happened, it can happen, this is what the ancient alchemist were doing when they were transmuting lead into gold.  It had nothing to do with you know transmuting you know, physical lead and into physical gold it had to do with this process of seating the higher centers with the lower centers into the human body.  Part of the process of doing this is the merging of the lower emotional center with the higher emotional center, these two centers merge, and that is the shall we say the cross road or the link, that you have the lower moving, which is - corresponds to the higher sexual centre and then the lower intellect that corresponds to the higher intellect then you have the two emotional centers, lower emotional and higher emotional.  When the lower emotional and higher emotional merge, you then end up with a figure five, you have the two intellectual centers and the sexual moving center and then in the center you have the merged emotional centers which, you know, causes them all to function together.  In other words you live in this world but you are no longer of it.  So this is the secret. The doing of it is… is a bit more problematical because it’s not something that that you just decided to do you cant get it by meditating on it, you can’t do it by the any of the normal process that has been promulgated for a very long time as the ways to higher spirituality.  If it were possible to do it that way people would have been doing a lot and the world wouldn’t be in condition it’s in, so I’m telling ya take that one to the bank!  So the interesting thing about this is that, as you all know, back in 1994, I succeeded after couple of years of  experimenting and contacting myself in the future so to say you know, the Cassiopaean transmissions, you know, ourselves in the future.  And they began to talk about many things that relate specifically to this idea, to these teaching.  And they helped us to put together the elements from the all the various philosophies and esoteric teachings that were out there and they helped us to look for the clues and to discover these things and put together a cohesive and coherent narrative of exactly what is going on this planet, what has been going on this planet, what probably is going to happen on this planet, and what we can do about it if anything, which primary has to do with going through this process each of us individually, this being born, working, being crucified, laying dormant for three days, 96 hours, however many and then being resurrected.  So that’s the important message behind Christianity.  Christianity in this sense, esoteric Christianity has probably existed for many many thousands of years 20-25 thousand, there’s evidence that I present in my book “Secret History of the World�  that suggests that this is the practice that was the power behind the megalith builders you know, the groups of people who erected the blanket of megaliths that extends all over Europe, eastern Europe into Russia and many other places around the planet.  So, if you are interested in finding out you know, the truth about these things then you probably will want to get and read this book that I have put together after you know 35 years of research.  And the final thing I want to say about it is, as I was studying through these things, as I was collecting all this information and you know the issue of Da Vinci, and this is kind of an interesting thing because like I said, I was reading “The Da Vinci Code�  on the train when we were coming back from our trip to Paris.  I had taken it with me even though I was resisted reading it up to that point I had taken it with me as a travel read and on our way home, after we had spent the day in the Louvre, I picked up this book and started reading it and I thought “Well, this is really interesting,�  because of course at the time I had no idea that the opening scenes of the book were in the Louvre right where I had just been.  So I found that to be really interesting and when I got home I began to dig into the some of the ideas and began to look at Leonard da Vinci a just little bit more closely and that’s when I discovered that the links between Leonardo Da Vinci and Marguerite of Navarre who was married to a grandson of a very famous Cathar (a  great ground son as the case may be…) who also was a patron of Nostradamus of Rabelais and several other people that the great alchemist Fulcanelli mentions in his mysterious book, “The Mystery of Cathedrals.�  Also Marguerite was one of the sponsors of the great Cathedral in Auch and I have a photo essay of the cathedral on my website if you just go to www.cassiopaea.org click on the site map link and then you look for photo essays you’ll find the link to the essay about the Auch Cathedral because in Auch Cathedral, there is actually a series of statues and based on my research, I believe that Marguerite was very much influenced by Leonardo da Vinci who spent his last years in France with her brother and with her.  And she sponsored the building of this cathedral and the art work that went into it, I think Leonardo was very influential in the creation of the art that’s in this cathedral.  So there is this series of statues, it’s called “The Burial of Christ,�  and “The Burial of the Christ�  depicts a woman with a crown of thorns standing in a position of honor next to the body of Christ to her right is the mother and at the feet is Mary Magdalene but it is quite clear from this statue and from series of figures in this guilded statue, the Mary Magdalene is not the wife of Jesus if anything she might have been a daughter.  Because it is a family scene and she is in a position that a daughter would assume.  There is a mother, there is alleged wife which we have to understand is metaphorical because the wife, remember, is the sexual center which is black and she is standing there holding the crown of thorn which is you know the suffering of the initiatic process which is long been depicted as ‘a dismemberment’ you know ‘boiling in a cauldron’ the most ancient representations are the boiling in caul – the cauldrons of regeneration of the ancient kelts, so this woman is there depicting a certain symbolic event not necessary an actual wife it’s quite clear that in the 16 century when this art work was being created that there was an awareness, that there was some mysterious thing about the so-called the family of Jesus and about the religious depiction of the Crucifixion and someone was trying to encode this in this Cathedral in Auch.  The next thing that I noticed that as I continued to ponder the works of Leonard da Vinci and read everything on Leonardo the I could get my hands on as well as  translations of his own writing, it’s unfortunate that so much that he wrote was scattered far and wide and has never been fully assembled but there are several volumes that contain his notes and his writing and what I noticed was, as I was looking at the last supper, you know there’s been much made about the peculiar positioning of the hands of the various individuals sitting at the table especially the hand that bends backward with the knife in it.  Some people have tried to say that this is the hand that doesn’t belong there and it doesn’t belong to the any of the figures there because it’s such an odd gesture and a very awkward way to twist an arm.  However, if you look through all of Leonard’s sketches and studies that he did for this great painting in Milan, you will find that he actually did a study for this particular arm and it does survive so it is quite clearly an arm does belong to the one who had been identified as the apostle Peter.  I’ve described all of this in some detail in an article on our website which is called…the - what did I title it? Fulcanelli and…

H:      You changed the title three or four times. (laughter)

LKJ:   Oh well, it has Fulcanelli and Da Vinci code in it, so just look for Da Vinci code on the site map page and you’ll find it because I actually show the images and show the studies that Leonardo worked from.  So Leonardo was connected to Marguerite of Navarre who sponsored the building of Auch Cathedral.  She was also a sponsor of the Nostradamus and Rabelais who were both mentioned by the alchemist Fulcanelli and his works “The Mystery of Cathedrals�  and also his book “Dwellings of the Philosophers� . Fulcanelli was also was a close associate of Camille Flammarion and Flammarion was a very good friend and supporter of Allan Kardec who was a great researcher into spiritism. And Henry, do you have some details on Kardec and Flammarion that you have gleaned from some of the French books that are not available in English, can you tell us a little bit more about him?

H:      In the mid 19th century, in the 1850s, as there was the United States there was table tapping there was an interest in spiritism.  Allan Kardec became interested in it, in the 1850’s and took upon himself to attempt to organize and publish some of the communications that had been received and he brought to this a critical eye and wouldn’t accept just anything that was going on.  One of the thing that they had used would be sometimes a planchette that was similar to the kinds of devices that Laura was using in the Cassiopaean transmissions. Ah other times, it was automatic writings but he never took what was said as a gospel.  He always sat down and did all the research he could to confirm or to reject and then he would compile this information.  During this period, of the 1850 and 1860s in France, there were hundreds of thousands of people involved in this and Kardec organized networks of these people throughout France it was very strong in the working class.  Kardec himself died in 1869 and as we have seen so often these kinds of movements break up and splinter but Camille Flammarion who became a very well-known strong French astronomer was very closely involved in with this work in the1860’s and we know that there is a connection between Flammarion and Fulcanelli or Jules Violle

LKJ:   Because as Patrick Riviere has written and analyzed and researched quite brilliantly the true identity of Fulcanelli is indeed Jules Violle, the great French physicist.

H:      And so we see a link between Kardec to Flammarion to Fulcanelli, Jules Violle…

LKJ:   Who then wrote about Rabelais and Cathedrals and actually as I demonstrate in my article gave the direct clue to us to lead us to Auch Cathedral where we can view this that astonishing statuary, this assembly of persons that it is called “The Burial of Christ�  not to mentioned that fabulous 18 windows of Arnaud de Moles and if you do a little anagram playing with this Arnaud de Moles you come up with “I am Leonard�  (laughter) so I’ve done it in my article…  I can’t remember the exact words that I came up with.  There are some very strong connections and when you circle these unusual hands and Leonardo’s great work “The Last Supper�  and you draw lines between them what you have is the most amazing figure. The exact, and I mean the exact depiction of the constellation Cassiopaea, the solution to “The Da Vinci Code� !

H:      The solution to the Da Vinci code is Cassiopaea.  There you have it folks.
Thank you for joining us.  We will be back next week.  For more information, visit our website www.signs-of-the-times.org thanks for joining us and we’ll see you next week.

[Aya]

2006-06-17 #52 From the Pentagon Strike to the Da Vinci Code and Sex Part 2

From the Pentagon Strike to the Da Vinci Code pt2

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You are listening to the radio free Signs-of-the-Times, broadcasting into the heart of an occupied America.

Henry (H):  Welcome to this week’s Signs of Times pod cast. I’m Henry.

Scott (S):   Hi, I’m Scott.

Laura (LKJ):   Hi, I’m Laura.

H:  And this week we have a guest who is going to be sitting in.  The lovely ski bunny Joanne from Colorado.

Joanne (J): Hello, everyone.

LKJ:  Good to have you with this, Joanne.

H:  So on our last pod cast, we began our discussion of Dan Brown’s novel “The Da Vinci Code." We started by looking at the fact that there is a message in the book, not  necessary the code that Dan was talking about, but it’s a book that raises certain questions about Christianity.  We talked about how this aspect of it bypasses people’s logical minds.   These people look around them and they see the role of Christianity in the world and the other religions in the world.  And they see that they don’t live up to what they pretend to be that the world is not better off for 2000 or more years of these teachings, and so they’re posing questions.  We then gave a brief overview of  the history of Christianity beginning with a brief look at the Q document, which is the document that scholars say is the source of the teachings of a man who is come to be known as Jesus.  We then looked at the formation of Christianity under Constantine and some of the work of Graham Philips in his book “The Mary and Conspiracy� , where he began looking at the question of the grail and some dark secret that it is supposed to be  held in the secret library of the Vatican.  And we finished by looking at… touching a bit on the songs of the Solomon and what the real meaning of that would be.  And so that’s what we’ll pick up today.

LKJ:   Thank you Henry. The important thing that I think we need to consider is the fact that people are becoming more and more aware that the monotheistic religions, Judaism which gave a birth to Christianity, and then also inspired Islam, have not moved humanity any closer to finding the solutions to the pressing problems of civilization of man his relationship to the earth, his relationship to other man, and his relationship to the cosmos.

H:    And that should be clear to pretty much anybody who looks out on the world today. That shouldn’t be a shocking statement.

LKJ:   Yeah if we got two neurons firing you can see that we’re standing on the brisk and we are ready to fall in at the any moment.  And it’s not going to take too much to set off a global holocaust from which humanity may not emerge alive.  So these are very very important questions at this time and people are very frightened inside themselves.  Even the people who try to live in denial are aware and more people are becoming aware each day and being forced to face the cold hard facts as the economy tanks, and as the effects of the aggressive occupation of Iraq continue.  And more and more people in the United States are having their children come home in boxes.  Soon it is going to be so that there won’t be a family in the United States that doesn’t have a relative or friend who’s come home in a box.  And when that happens, I feel rather sorry for George Bush and the Neocons because people are going to wake up.  But in any event, we also talked last week about the Pentagon Strike and the fact that our Pentagons Strike video was being shown at the Cannes film festival and right at the time that George Bush and the Neocons decided to release their amazing footage of what hit the Pentagon, you know, the blurry little nose cone… which completely bombed.  I think it did more to contribute to people being convinced that there was no fight 77 at the Pentagon than anything else.  But in any event…

H:   Laura, you know, that is just a set up.  They going to come out with a tape that’s got the clear images any day now.

LKJ:   Oh yeah, well, Bring it on us.  As George Bush would say. (laughter)
But getting back to Dan Brown.  Dan Brown…it’s ..it’s kind of a cipher.  Because on the one hand, he wrote this book that really touches a lot of people and it touches them for reasons a quite different from what you might expect as you’ve outlined already.  So the question is why and how did this book become widely popular because quite frankly as a life long reader of you know, some voluminous capacity, I have to say it’s not a really very good book .  It has its moments that are you know, that are.. for somebody who wants some entertaining reading, it has moments that are entertaining.  But it is so imposable and most of the dialog and the activity it is really completely cheesy.  And for somebody who is familiar with “The Facts of the Hidden History of the World� , it’s beyond cheesy it’s insulting to your intelligence.

(Laugher)

LKJ:   For example, we have here Dan Brown’s famous tomb.  I need to mention that I actually read this book on the train back from Paris.  Last year we took our girls up to the Paris to go to the Louvre and we spent the day there and I had heard about the book you know, the several people have said, “Oh, have you ever read “The Da Vinci Code� ?�  you know, “No I haven’t read “The Da Vinci Code� � ….nadadadadada.  And since they had mentioned that it was based on Lincoln, Leigh, and Baigent’s “Holy Blood, Holy Grail� , I wasn’t really too interested in reading it because I’d already read all of that material and I had pretty much exploded it in some articles, in a series of articles called the “Grail Quest�  and we published on our website back in 1999/2000.  I did a lot of research on the so-called the Priory of Sion and came to the  inescapable conclusion that it was just a big fraud.  But I’ll get into to that in a minute because right now I want to tell you what Dan Brown wrote about the Priory of Sion.  And believe me, the information that it was a fraud was available on the internet and not just from my own articles because my articles were based on the research of some people who were on site who went to the archives who did some digging did some you know, first hand observation and analysis.  And there are several very fine books, factual books written about it, which were available to Dan Brown, but he didn’t bother to do his homework. This is what he wrote about…

H:   Or his wife didn’t bother to do his homework

LKJ:   Well yeah, oh yeah anybody who was… Anybody who was following the trial you know, where Lincoln, Leigh, and Baigent were suing Dan Brown for plagiarism are probably aware that it was pretty well concluded by the judge that he got most of stuff from his wife who did read “Holy Blood, Holy Grail� , so yeah he did steal some ideas but you know, that’s how the fiction goes you know, people.  You can’t own these ideas and it would only be if he lifted the actual text, you know bodily from their book and used it and he didn’t do that. He wrote the fiction novel, based on their research, and it was perfectly legitimated for him to do that.  But at the same time, he certainly should have given them a little more credit and he should have at least been honest about it and admitted it where he got it from.  But in any event, this is what he says about the Priory of Sion.  Right in the beginning of the book, big bold letters it says “FACT.�

F A C T :

The Priory if Sion— A European secret society founded in 1099 – is a real organization.
In 1975 Paris’s Bibliotheque Nationale Discovered parchments known as Les
Dossiers Secrets, identifying numerous Members of the Priory of Sion, including
Sir Isaac Newton, Botticelli, Victor Hugo, and Leonardo da Vinci.

The Vatican prelature known as Opus Dei is a deeply devout Catholic sect that has been the topic of resent controversy  due to reports of brain-washing, coercion, and a dangerous practice known as “corporal mortification.�  Opus Dei has just completed construction of a $47 million National Headquarters at 243 Lexington Avenue in New York City.

All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel
are accurate.

LKJ:   That is this whole statement that he prefaces with this big bold word FACT, is pure horseshit!  (laughter) There is no other word for it… it’s horse hockey people!  Because number one, the Priory of Sion is NOT a European secret society founded in  1099.  Priory of Sion was a fraud perpetuated by a small time crook in France, name of Pierre Plantard who later added “de St.-Clair�  to his name to give himself heirs.  As I said the information on this is posted in great detail in a series of articles called the Grail Quest on our website called www.cassiopaea.org.  So that’s the first thing.
The second thing is, this issue about Opus Dei.  Now Opus Dei, I’m not going to say too much about that because I’ll let Opus Dei do their own defense.  I’m not into defending Catholic organizations since I’m totally against the whole you know, against the Christian fraud anyway so...  But let’s say that they probably are cult.  They probably are doing weird stuff.  You know anybody who gets into you know whipping themselves or you know, wearing hairshirts or total celibacy and think it’s gonna to get him to heaven are little weird in my book .

H:   Well it was also founded it in under Franco in Spain and had very very close ties to the Fascists.

LKJ:  Yeah, that tells us something too.  When he talks about “The descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.�   Like I said, now  there are maybe some group that engage in these so-called secret rituals like the kinky sex ritual that he describes somewhere around the middle of the book that the poor heroine Sophie witnesses her grandfather performing with some you know um…. “goddess receptacle...   (laughter)  Having a little hard time with terminology here tonight sorry.  Um yes, there are some groups that get into to this kind of weird stuff.  There are some groups that get into stuff that is so weird that you know, maybe one of these days we will do an entire show just on the some of the sick sick crap that goes around and passes as occultism.  But basically as far as the Christian Mythos, it has nothing to do with it.  Absolutely nothing.

H:      But it’s got a lot to do with occultism. (laughter)

LKJ:   Well…it depends on your…

H:       In what occultism is known as today in a

LKJ:   Yeah…well as we mentioned last week, according to the most definitive scholarly research which is being put together and written about by Burton Mack in two books, one is called “Who Wrote the New Testament?�  and the other one is called “The Lost Gospel: The Q document and Origins of Christianity� .  Mack pretty well establishes that - first of all, whoever the man around whom the Jesus legend was formed was first of all, he wasn’t Jewish.  He was probably a Greek or at least you know strongly Hellenic in his background.  He was a Senic philosopher along with the lines of the Senec philosopher.  Interestingly, Mack comments on the fact that there is a strong influence of the so called idea of ‘The kingdom of God’ threading its way through the material of the first and  earliest layer of the last layer of the Q document, which he doesn’t quite understand.  But if you think about it in terms of a group of people who more or less were ready to chuck out the whole religious shtick that they were dealing with at that time the from the all different points of view and a whole social thing and make a social statement and experiment with new ways of being, new ways of relating to the each other and at the same time, retain a certain spirituality because you know, as you might think that the Senic philosopher is pretty much tossed out spirituality, too.  They were very very realist, rationalist, you know, what existed was what you could see, feel, taste, touch, smell.  And they weren’t too much inclined to make spiritual speculations but if you take in…

H:   They were the Richard Dawkins of the era.

LKJ:  Yea they were… you know, blind watchmaker types.

H: Yeah

LKJ:   But whoever was behind this material that came to be known as the Q document they were in a sense very realistic and very scientific and very much involved in observing their reality and experimenting with new ways and new relationships.  And at the same time, they had an unusual concept called ‘The kingdom of God’ which as you know, been quoted, it was within, it was a spiritual condition.  So that is a little bit unusual.  However, it’s not so unusual when you begin to study some of the other spiritual doctrines that have existed continuously for these past 2000 years or more in certain areas of eastern Europe moving even into central Asia.  For example, the influence that later generated the Cathar beliefs came from that area of the world, they were from Bulgaria from you know..

H:   The Bulgamils

LKJ:   Bogamils yes, and there were strong similarities between that and some of the Sufi ideas and I think I mentioned the Sufi Shaykh Ibn al-‘Arabi last week, and then we find that in the construction of the layers of Christianity that the ideas of the crucified, dying and resurrecting god were added to the mix several layers after the first layer of Q and have been identified as originating from northern Syria, which is moving in that direction.  Now if you understand the ancient Siberian Shamanic practices you know that the death of the external self and the birth of the spiritual self, the decent to the underworld or the ascent to the heavens via a ladder, on a horse, by a tree, by some sort of divine sickness where you would fall off sick for number of days and rise from your bed and transformed being.  You know all those are evident in this myth of Jesus, the dying God who died and was buried for 3 days and resurrected and all of this type of ‘spiritual initiatic practice’ is evident in this myth.  So the first problem you have is when people like Lincoln Leigh and Baigent come along and they assume that there is any part of this myth that is historical and then began to try to find you know customs or you know actual historical lynch pins on which to hang a real history to try to prove that you know, a man named Jesus exists, that he was a Jew, and that he married with Mary Magdalene, that they had children and or that she escaped to the France or wherever and gave to a birth a child who then became a progenitor of the Merovingians you know, all of this is pure nonsense and also you have to remember that a lot of what they were writing was based on ideas of that sort that were propagated by a fraud.  A complete fraud.  And if you don’t believe this is a fraud you really need to do some research.

H:   We need to go back and we need to say this and repeat it and say it clearly: The entire story of Jesus coming into Jerusalem, being arrested, being scourged, being taken before Ponchus Pilot, being taking up the mount, caring his cross, being crucified all of that is bogus.

LKJ:  As history.

H:     As  history.

LKJ:   However, it is a stark mythical representation of a true ‘initiatic practice’, and that ‘initiatic practice’ can be found in bits and pieces and traces in some of the most ancient teachings that still continue to exist on this planet.  And those teachings that ‘initiatic practice’ apparently from the best we can determine, actually does lead to a heightened state of being; a permanent change in the being and even in fact possibly what we would called super human powers, so don’t knock that part of it and don’t think that it doesn’t have a seriously important significance, but just do not take it for history.  And forget the whole thing about Jesus being a Jew, Jesus being marrying Mary Magdalene, and having children etc.  Let me just say something about that when I first read Lincoln Leigh and Baigent’s book “Holy blood, Holy Grail� and they repeated some of their stories about the myth of the Mary Magdalene coming to France and bearing the child of Jesus and so on and so forth and that this was something that was well-known in France to the French.  I was little curious about that because at that time and still, my husband has a colleague who lives in Marseille and has lived in Marseille nearly all his life.  He’s a scientist, and he is also very interested in history, he’s kind of an interesting scientist, and he is very funny - he actually looks and talks a little bit like the old Brenner did in his heyday so he is a lot to fun to talk to.  But he is a very serious mathematician.  Stop laughing Henry it’s true! (Laughter)

H:      I know him I know it’s true (Laughter)

LKJ:   Yea, yea…(Laughter) I mean did I peg him? Does he not look like the old Brenner?

H:      You pegged him, you pegged him…

LKJ:   Yea, I mean you just almost expect him to just you know, stand up, shave his head and say “Shall we Dance?�  you know, and do the whole King and I thing.  But in any event, Robert was kind enough to answer some of my questions about this and his information was based on living on site and in the place and having studied these things himself and been interested in them.

H:     We should note that the legends that the authors of the “Hold Blood, Holy Grail�  talk about have Mary Magdalene showing up in France near Marseille, so it is right in that area.

LKJ:   Right and…but then they completely distorted these things.  Because the story actually is, which you know, the French of that region have told and retold for centuries that yes Mary Magdalene showed up on a boat with another Mary, Mary the Egyptian and St. Maximin and she went to an area not too far from Marseille, which is now called Saint Maximin, and she went to living a cave, became a recluse or a penitent and lived her life in prayer and penitence and died there.  And supposedly, her bones were later found and identified as hers, I seriously doubt it - I think they date to the second century.  I’ve been to see it,  I took some photographs, I’ve got some photo albums of these things on our website.  But in any event, there is no legend of Mary Magdalene coming to France and having a child, and that that child went on to become the founder of the Merovingian Dynasty and on the subject of the Merovingians…

( Henry and Laura Laugh)

LKJ:   Ohhhh!!! The Merovingians, the long haired priest kings.  Now, that goes in a whole different direction you know, they were obviously Frankish, and they had the whole long hair thing, and supposedly they had some sort of power, some ability to touch and heal, and all kinds of other legends rose up about them.  But if you actually read you know, go to the sources and read what Gregory of Tours wrote about these early Merovingians, you come immediately to the idea that these are people you wouldn’t invite into your home.  (Laughter)  Now, the fact is at one point in my life I got heavily into genealogy and discovered that you know I myself descend from some of those people through my Percy ancestors and several other branches and reading about them was quite interesting but you know, I realized “Gee!�  you know, who would want to have that blood in their veins?  These people were nuts!  [Henry Laughs]  I mean they were patricidal, matricidal, fratricidal… what’s killing your sister, sistercidal? (laughter) They were evil people!  Who would want to be related to these people?  Who would want to bring them back?!!  You know?…(laughter)
   
“So, we are getting back to the issue of the initiatic secret that it is encoded in Christianity. There is a teaching that has survived for over 2000 years.  And it has been transmitted through the oral traditions of the Eastern Orthodox Church.  These are traditions that are known to a number of teachers of some importance in the eastern European areas some of them are Russian Bulgarian etc.  George Gurdjieff was in touch with some part of this tradition and incorporated it into his experimental promulgation of the ideas that are behind this tradition.  Boris Mouravieff was little more familiar with the direct tradition, possibly not more familiar, but at least he transmitted the tradition itself from the monks on the island of Athos and writing his three volume compendium entitled “Gnosis I II and III� .  Figure that one out.  He talks about the fact that the human being has in his ordinary state three centers.  Gurdjieff talks about the centers also and in similar terms and these centers are the thinking, emotional, and the moving centre.  I suppose if somebody was really interested in trying to figure out how they relate to Freudian or Union psychology you know that they can have fun with that but I don’t think it’s terribly important.  And that there are three higher centers, the higher intellect, the higher emotional and then what was called in a sense, the sexual centre.  And I told you we were gonna talk about sex but I don’t think it’s gonna to be quite the way you wanna hear it but… But the thing is that the higher intellect relates to the thought that gives form to the formlessness of the sexual energy or the creative feminine energy.  And the higher thought or the intellect was depicted as light and this is how it is depicted in the Sufi teachings and the sexual centre or the feminine creative principle was depicted as black and the action of the light upon the or the light of thought or the word you know, the word (in the beginning was the word and the word was with the god, the word was the god) the word, the light acts upon matter in a creative way and matter as the divine mother and I believe I read the passages on that from Ibn al-‘Arabi last week.  The divine mother is that which receives the impression and essentially gives the birth to the forms that are contained in the idea of the light.  Well applying that to a human being you have the possibility of uniting the light, the father and the mother, the black the magnetic centre in your spiritual make up and seating this in your physical body which is essentially what is being asked for when the lords prayers says, “Thy kingdom come (remember ‘The kingdom of God’ is within), Thy will be done on earth ( ‘on earth’ being the sexual centre, the black part of the feminine creative centre), on earth as it is in Heaven�  (‘heaven’ being the higher intellect), so bringing the higher intellect together with the sexual center or the mother and seating it into the physical body was the act or the process of the initiatic sequence that would make human being into literally a superman, as much as can be possible in this reality because of course there are going to be certain limitations by the virtue of the circuitry that the human body is capable of carrying and that depends of course upon on the DNA, so naturally there is a family blood line there is a DNA connection that is necessary to be able to accomplish this to any great degree because if you don’t have the DNA potential to carry those higher circuits of energy you are going to burn yourself out.  But in any event, this process is very precise process it had been carried as an oral tradition for thousands of years, it is probably the exact tradition that was behind the imagery of the mother being impregnated  from heaven giving birth to the divine child who then was crucified and then after three days arouse because this actually describe the process of the initiation of the coming to be, of the bringing together of the higher intellect and the feminine creative principal of the higher centers and then marrying them or bringing them into being or into manifestation in your physical body.  

   "Now we get it a little more precise about these things in some of the articles on our website and in my book “The Secret History of the World"  I talk about it in some length and towards the end of book I began to put the things together and give rather explicit details about the process itself but it’s not a process that you can necessarily undertake on your own, it has happened, it can happen, this is what the ancient alchemist were doing when they were transmuting lead into gold.  It had nothing to do with you know transmuting you know, physical lead and into physical gold it had to do with this process of seating the higher centers with the lower centers into the human body.  Part of the process of doing this is the merging of the lower emotional center with the higher emotional center, these two centers merge, and that is the shall we say the cross road or the link, that you have the lower moving, which is - corresponds to the higher sexual centre and then the lower intellect that corresponds to the higher intellect then you have the two emotional centers, lower emotional and higher emotional.  When the lower emotional and higher emotional merge, you then end up with a figure five, you have the two intellectual centers and the sexual moving center and then in the center you have the merged emotional centers which, you know, causes them all to function together.  In other words you live in this world but you are no longer of it.  So this is the secret. The doing of it is… is a bit more problematical because it’s not something that that you just decided to do you cant get it by meditating on it, you can’t do it by the any of the normal process that has been promulgated for a very long time as the ways to higher spirituality.  If it were possible to do it that way people would have been doing a lot and the world wouldn’t be in condition it’s in, so I’m telling ya take that one to the bank!  So the interesting thing about this is that, as you all know, back in 1994, I succeeded after couple of years of  experimenting and contacting myself in the future so to say you know, the Cassiopaean transmissions, you know, ourselves in the future.  And they began to talk about many things that relate specifically to this idea, to these teaching.  And they helped us to put together the elements from the all the various philosophies and esoteric teachings that were out there and they helped us to look for the clues and to discover these things and put together a cohesive and coherent narrative of exactly what is going on this planet, what has been going on this planet, what probably is going to happen on this planet, and what we can do about it if anything, which primary has to do with going through this process each of us individually, this being born, working, being crucified, laying dormant for three days, 96 hours, however many and then being resurrected.  So that’s the important message behind Christianity.  Christianity in this sense, esoteric Christianity has probably existed for many many thousands of years 20-25 thousand, there’s evidence that I present in my book “Secret History of the World"  that suggests that this is the practice that was the power behind the megalith builders you know, the groups of people who erected the blanket of megaliths that extends all over Europe, eastern Europe into Russia and many other places around the planet.  So, if you are interested in finding out you know, the truth about these things then you probably will want to get and read this book that I have put together after you know 35 years of research.  

   "And the final thing I want to say about it is, as I was studying through these things, as I was collecting all this information and you know the issue of Da Vinci, and this is kind of an interesting thing because like I said, I was reading “The Da Vinci Code�  on the train when we were coming back from our trip to Paris.  I had taken it with me even though I was resisted reading it up to that point I had taken it with me as a travel read and on our way home, after we had spent the day in the Louvre, I picked up this book and started reading it and I thought “Well, this is really interesting,�  because of course at the time I had no idea that the opening scenes of the book were in the Louvre right where I had just been.  So I found that to be really interesting and when I got home I began to dig into the some of the ideas and began to look at Leonard da Vinci a just little bit more closely and that’s when I discovered that the links between Leonardo Da Vinci and Marguerite of Navarre who was married to a grandson of a very famous Cathar (a  great ground son as the case may be…) who also was a patron of Nostradamus of Rabelais and several other people that the great alchemist Fulcanelli mentions in his mysterious book, “The Mystery of Cathedrals.�  Also Marguerite was one of the sponsors of the great Cathedral in Auch and I have a photo essay of the cathedral on my website if you just go to www.cassiopaea.org click on the site map link and then you look for photo essays you’ll find the link to the essay about the Auch Cathedral because in Auch Cathedral, there is actually a series of statues and based on my research, I believe that Marguerite was very much influenced by Leonardo da Vinci who spent his last years in France with her brother and with her.  And she sponsored the building of this cathedral and the art work that went into it, I think Leonardo was very influential in the creation of the art that’s in this cathedral.  So there is this series of statues, it’s called “The Burial of Christ", and “The Burial of the Christ"  depicts a woman with a crown of thorns standing in a position of honor next to the body of Christ to her right is the mother and at the feet is Mary Magdalene but it is quite clear from this statue and from series of figures in this guilded statue, the Mary Magdalene is not the wife of Jesus if anything she might have been a daughter.  Because it is a family scene and she is in a position that a daughter would assume.  There is a mother, there is alleged wife which we have to understand is metaphorical because the wife, remember, is the sexual center which is black and she is standing there holding the crown of thorn which is you know the suffering of the initiatic process which is long been depicted as ‘a dismemberment’ you know ‘boiling in a cauldron’ the most ancient representations are the boiling in caul – the cauldrons of regeneration of the ancient kelts, so this woman is there depicting a certain symbolic event not necessary an actual wife it’s quite clear that in the 16 century when this art work was being created that there was an awareness, that there was some mysterious thing about the so-called the family of Jesus and about the religious depiction of the Crucifixion and someone was trying to encode this in this Cathedral in Auch.  

   "The next thing that I noticed that as I continued to ponder the works of Leonard da Vinci and read everything on Leonardo the I could get my hands on as well as  translations of his own writing, it’s unfortunate that so much that he wrote was scattered far and wide and has never been fully assembled but there are several volumes that contain his notes and his writing and what I noticed was, as I was looking at the last supper, you know there’s been much made about the peculiar positioning of the hands of the various individuals sitting at the table especially the hand that bends backward with the knife in it.  Some people have tried to say that this is the hand that doesn’t belong there and it doesn’t belong to the any of the figures there because it’s such an odd gesture and a very awkward way to twist an arm.  However, if you look through all of Leonard’s sketches and studies that he did for this great painting in Milan, you will find that he actually did a study for this particular arm and it does survive so it is quite clearly an arm does belong to the one who had been identified as the apostle Peter.  I’ve described all of this in some detail in an article on our website which is called…the - what did I title it? Fulcanelli and…

H:      You changed the title three or four times. (laughter)

LKJ:   Oh well, it has Fulcanelli and Da Vinci code in it, so just look for Da Vinci code on the site map page and you’ll find it because I actually show the images and show the studies that Leonardo worked from.  So Leonardo was connected to Marguerite of Navarre who sponsored the building of Auch Cathedral.  She was also a sponsor of the Nostradamus and Rabelais who were both mentioned by the alchemist Fulcanelli and his works “The Mystery of Cathedrals�  and also his book “Dwellings of the Philosophers� . Fulcanelli was also was a close associate of Camille Flammarion and Flammarion was a very good friend and supporter of Allan Kardec who was a great researcher into spiritism. And Henry, do you have some details on Kardec and Flammarion that you have gleaned from some of the French books that are not available in English, can you tell us a little bit more about him?

H:      In the mid 19th century, in the 1850s, as there was the United States there was table tapping there was an interest in spiritism.  Allan Kardec became interested in it, in the 1850’s and took upon himself to attempt to organize and publish some of the communications that had been received and he brought to this a critical eye and wouldn’t accept just anything that was going on.  One of the thing that they had used would be sometimes a planchette that was similar to the kinds of devices that Laura was using in the Cassiopaean transmissions. Ah other times, it was automatic writings but he never took what was said as a gospel.  He always sat down and did all the research he could to confirm or to reject and then he would compile this information.  During this period, of the 1850 and 1860s in France, there were hundreds of thousands of people involved in this and Kardec organized networks of these people throughout France it was very strong in the working class.  Kardec himself died in 1869 and as we have seen so often these kinds of movements break up and splinter but Camille Flammarion who became a very well-known strong French astronomer was very closely involved in with this work in the1860’s and we know that there is a connection between Flammarion and Fulcanelli or Jules Violle

LKJ:   Because as Patrick Riviere has written and analyzed and researched quite brilliantly the true identity of Fulcanelli is indeed Jules Violle, the great French physicist.

H:      And so we see a link between Kardec to Flammarion to Fulcanelli, Jules Violle…

LKJ:   Who then wrote about Rabelais and Cathedrals and actually as I demonstrate in my article gave the direct clue to us to lead us to Auch Cathedral where we can view this that astonishing statuary, this assembly of persons that it is called “The Burial of Christ�  not to mentioned that fabulous 18 windows of Arnaud de Moles and if you do a little anagram playing with this Arnaud de Moles you come up with “I am Leonard�  (laughter) so I’ve done it in my article…  I can’t remember the exact words that I came up with.  There are some very strong connections and when you circle these unusual hands and Leonardo’s great work “The Last Supper�  and you draw lines between them what you have is the most amazing figure. The exact, and I mean the exact depiction of the constellation Cassiopaea, the solution to “The Da Vinci Code"!

H:      The solution to the Da Vinci code is Cassiopaea.  There you have it folks.
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