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Dislocated Atlas (first cervical vertebrae)

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Vdosh:

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--- Quote from: Grok ---I authorize myself to wrote about this because I tested this, I've been there (two months ago). Tested and approved by my body with immediate spectacular significant results at multiple levels...
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Not sure if I can't find it or there aren't any explanations on the method itself. Since you've done it and since you've posted it here - can you please describe how it's done?  And what do you find to be the change for you after? Also - I've read how further massages and other treatments are recommended, on that site, after it's 'done' - so, how much do you think it has to do with the actual method applied and not with results from after suggested treatments?

Thank you
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--- Quote from: Color ---(...) can you please describe how it's done? (...)
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With a mechanical massage (with a machine) on some short muscles and ligaments near to the base of the skull. The vertebrae isn't directly touched, but goes in its right place with the massages of this muscles and ligaments. I said to the pratician: "It is very difficult to do a massage with the hands on this zone..."; "It's impossible." he replied. This is clever, the man who invented this really knows anatomy... Praticians of other methods try to replace the vertebrae touching it with hands, and their results are only temporary (the vertebrae moves again after some time).


--- Quote from: Color ---(...) And what do you find to be the change for you after? (...)
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The changes are individual, depending on personal history (wich is "printed" on the body). I have a high level of "body conscience" due to my past and present activities related to my body (professional classical and contemporary dancer, Taï Chi Chuan, Qi Gong). I can say: "Everything has changed !...". My daily body work now goes deeper, I get new sensations and some articular possibilities are expanded (particularly with legs, and also with head moves of course). I had a recurrent problem since 18 years with my nape of the neck, because of a professional accident, that not one osteopath had solved, this problem is now solved (immediately after the "application"). This has been incredible for me...

Immediately after the "application" at four o'clock, I took two coffees outside, and then at home I took two green teas, and at six o'clock I was in bed !...

...The changes are not over, two months later, it's like a a kind of new start. Not everything is perfect within my body, it has to be worked like always, but I feel "liberated". For some time after the "application", I tired more quickly than I was used to, when doing body work, maybe because "everything was new". Two months later, this quick "fatiguabilité" () is over.


--- Quote from: Color ---(...) Also - I've read how further massages and other treatments are recommended, on that site, after it's 'done' - so, how much do you think it has to do with the actual method applied and not with results from after suggested treatments?
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...I'm used to massages and all, before this method. My internal body feeling tells me that this is new. I have to go to my chinese "masseur" to see what he thinks now, he is interested also in this.


...Before going to this method, I asked myself a lot of questions, like you and everyone, and I decided that the only way to really know what's going on was to do this. I don't regret. If you can have other witnesses with persons that really have done it, that would be cool, also. I know some written witnesses but in some french forums. Some that haven't done it are afraid and find a lot of reasons to be afraid and to frighten people, those who have done it are not.

Vdosh:
...Thanks for your explanations, Rabelais !...

...Seems that one of the differences between what I've been through and what you have been through (the two methods) is that in my case there is no direct manipulation of the Atlas vertebrae and a definitive result in one application, and in you case there would be a vertebrae direct manipulation and a not definitive result ?...


--- Quote ---The Atlas vertebra, which lies high in the neck, is not anchored like other vertebrae, so it easily slips out of alignment. It relies solely on muscles and ligaments to stay in place. The vertebra also can become displaced without pain and often goes undetected and untreated.
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>>> This seem to be false; when in its right place the C1 is blocked by two plots named "processus styloidae" at the base of the skull, as shown in the video on the site I cited. When not in its right place, the C1 Atlas vertebrae moves.


I haven't said that now my two legs have the same length !... (before, my right leg was one centimeter shorter).

Regards

Vdosh:

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--- Quote from: Grok ---_http://www.atlasprofilax.ch/eng/index.php   There

...This is not about diet, but clearly related to health.

...Seems this goes very far.

...I emits the curious and questionable hypothesis that this definitely correct an external genetic manipulation on human beings (I vaguely remind the Cs talking about something similar, if my memory is right, so had I to share this curious thought). A known fact is: two parents who haven't been there produce a child with the same vertebra problem, and two parents who have been through this directly produce a child who has no problem and need no treatment. Seems that all humanity has this problem since birth (or perhaps sooner), human beings without this problem are very rare exceptions. I was used to have it but now it's over.
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While there seems to be a lot of evidence for support that this luxation of the axis could be quite common, I haven’t found any evidence that most people are born with it. Even the link you provided doesn’t claim that. The main theory is that the possible causes are injuries from using forceps at birth, childhood knocks and falls, hitting your head etc.

It seems like some folk in the new age crowd has picked up on the condition though, and making unfounded claims that 99.9% of people are born with it and that Sitchin’s Anunnaki caused it.
It’s as though the new agers have taken what the C’s said about the knot in the spine, and twisted it to fool people into believing that this axis condition is a control mechanism and if you get it corrected you’re free of control and you can sit back and be showered with enlightenment.

 A search for luxation and saitchin I found this:
This is a snippet from this site:

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 While I enjoy a good story every now and again, this one begged for independent corroboration. A few days later I called my friend Wynn Free the author of The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce? (_www.caycesback.com), who teams with Terry Brown in channeling an evolved extraterrestrial intelligence called the Elohim. When he responded several days later with a message from the Elohim, my information was confirmed: The luxated C1 was deliberately engineered into the Homo sapiens coding by the Anunnaki in order to render their native pool of mining slaves more docile, programmable, and controllable. This mechanism has remained in the human genetic makeup ever since, and I suspect it is well known to those who understand how best to exploit such things.
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Well, your thinking is instructive.

I've done it and I'm (physically and mentally, if not to say spiritually) satisfied with that doing (knowing that the work is not over, but a little bit facilitated now for me). So had I to witness my experience, in case it could do some good to some others, as it seems it could.

Regards

Alice:

--- Quote from: Grok ---...Seems that one of the differences between what I've been through and what you have been through (the two methods) is that in my case there is no direct manipulation of the Atlas vertebrae and a definitive result in one application, and in you case there would be a vertebrae direct manipulation and a not definitive result ?...

... I haven't said that now my two legs have the same length !... (before, my right leg was one centimeter shorter).
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Thanks for the info Grok :)

Now I have new questions rising, so please help me to make something clear. I have problems with my spine ever since pregnancy for drastically lost weight over that period. And later everyone I saw for that problem told me that if they start to 'correct' my spine - it will take a constant and long term treatment, because when you put first vertebrate in place - the second one moves etc... So, they all need to be put in place, one after another, during the period of couple of months.

Because of my spine - my hips askew and that's causing the slight difference in legs 'length', just like you mentioned above. So, I want to be sure to understood right what you said: just because of that treatment one's whole spine gets into place?

Thank you :)

Rabelais:

--- Quote from: Grok ---The Atlas vertebra, which lies high in the neck, is not anchored like other vertebrae, so it easily slips out of alignment. It relies solely on muscles and ligaments to stay in place. The vertebra also can become displaced without pain and often goes undetected and untreated.
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--- Quote ---This seem to be false; when in its right place the C1 is blocked by two plots named "processus styloidae" at the base of the skull, as shown in the video on the site I cited. When not in its right place, the C1 Atlas vertebrae moves.
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The information in the article came from the Chicago Tribune. Journalists are not upper cervical corrective specialists. You would need to take this point up with the author.

Since I am in France, it would be most helpful if you could pass on the name and contact information of the practitioner of yours, s'il vous palit. Perhaps email me if you do not wish to post this information. I would certainly visit him if he is nearer than Annecy. The drive from the south to the Alps is too long for me to do round trip in one day.

Someone with upper cervical procedures that are effective would be most convenient to know about, especially if they might be closer to Toulouse.

Merci

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