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Title: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on March 02, 2010, 04:32:38 PM
A little background:

On December 20th, 2009, Martha Rose Crow, who some of you may be familiar with due to a few articles by her that have been published on sott.net and here in the forum, wrote to me proposing that she and a friend of hers, Judith Vary Baker (who was seeing Lee Harvey Oswald when the JFK assassination occurred), wanted to write: "Ponerology for Dummies."  The idea was to take the book and just simply re-write it in plain, everyday English.

I was familiar enough with Martha's writing and Judith's skill with language to think that the two of them would make a good team for this project.  I suggested a first chapter before I gave the go ahead and they agreed.

Chapter One arrived in my mailbox on January 10th.  It really was good and I was excited by what the ladies were doing with the text.  It was, in essence, unchanged, but vastly improved in readability.

From that day, until yesterday, both of them have been devoted to this project and chapter 12 was almost finished (they had divided one chapter into three so there were to be more chapters than the original had).   

Yesterday I received the last email from Martha late in the afternoon:

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:     Chapter 12 is going to be a couple days late
Date:     Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:07:40 -0800 (PST)
From:     Martha Rose Crow
To:     Laura Knight-Jadczyk


Judyth and I are under harsh attack. Our yahoo email accounts were hacked this weekend (mine longer than hers), her computer got hacked real bad last night (some people came over to help her and stayed up with her all night until it got fixed), she got a terrible death threat (one that not only describes how bloody she will be murdered, but he 'knows' where she lives), one of her big and famous supporters also got a terrible death threat, youtube took a video of her off minutes after it was posted and on and on...

I've got the flu real bad and I'm one of those picky, natural eaters. I've got a headache that won't quit and I don't get them. My leg has been swollen and on and on...

Listen Baby, you need to start putting the armor on!!! Although this Book is all on this side of the grid, we all know that demons are trying to stop this Book!!! Meditate, pray, cleanse your body and Soul, or do whatever you have to do to keep them off you and please warn the M.D. and Harrison. I'm worried about you guys. I AM SURE THE REASON WHY I WAS SENT BACK WAS TO HELP WITH THE BOOK. I guess it takes certain Alchemistic writers (Judyth and I) plus High Spiritual People (we are) to rewrite something as *Special* as Dr. L's *Great Gift* to the World! (That man is a *Saint* to me!!!) The Book is WHY the Cassiopaens came to SEE ME. I'm sure they exist (SMILE) BEcause I talked with them in the Future. I remember them clearly!!! Ask them about me. They'll tell you. *Please, BE EXTRA Careful!!!* ~Martha

That was at 4:07 CET. I responded with a couple of reassuring lines at 6:42, and it seems that just a short time later, she was dead.  I received the following today:

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Sasha Bloem  wrote:

    Hi everyone,

    through this email, I want to tell to all friends and writing partners of Martha Rose Crow,
    that she passed away last night 'round 19:00 CET.
    I was informed 4 hours later by her friend Ferry.
    As far as I know she died of a heart attack.
    My deepest condolences to all close ones,
    she was my best friend…
    The service will be taking place in Alkmaar,
    thursday 4th of March.
    I only know this so far.
    For more details please contact me tomorrow.
    I will know more then.
    The addresses on this list are some of the ones I got
    with the emails she sent me (she wanted me to have a back up of all she wrote)
    I hope some one can help me contact the missing ones.


Since I will be speaking at the Nexus Magazine conference in Amsterdam in May, Martha and I planned to meet.  We have been corresponding for a long time now and many of the articles on sott were ones that she gleaned in her wide and deep searches of the internet for clues to what was really going on. 

There is no doubt in my mind that getting Ponerology for Dummies (that wasn't going to be the real title, it was just our working title) finished and on the net was an important bit of work.  It's something that has been needed for a long time.  I am hoping that Judyth can finish it up and I can hand it over to an editor.  Otherwise, I will finish it myself.  The plan was to make it available for free AND publish it for those who wanted hard copy.

Martha, of all people, is undoubtedly fully aware on that other side.  I can't do much to honor her life and commemorate her passing except to try to make sure that this project is completed, and that I will do.  And part of that includes making it public so that if anything happens to me, someone else will grab the torch and carry it on.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: truth seeker on March 02, 2010, 04:51:47 PM
I don't even know what to say. I am so sorry and hope you can pass on my condolences to Sasha and Judyth.

edit: spelling
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Tigersoap on March 02, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
I just saw this and I am deeply shocked, this is so sad.

My condolences to her family.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: RedFox on March 02, 2010, 05:03:24 PM
This is indeed shocking. I really don't know what to say.
My condolences to her family also, and to Laura I hope you are ok. To say you've been having a hard time of it of late would be an understatement.
My heart goes out to her family and yourself.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Brenda86 on March 02, 2010, 05:11:32 PM
I can't even describe the feeling this gives me. I am so sorry to hear about this. But it is more than that. It reminds me of all the obstacles that have been in your way and anyone who has tried to really help with this work, and it really makes me want to buckle down and increase my knowledge that much more.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: AL Today on March 02, 2010, 05:19:11 PM
I am saddened that yet another has been taken. All I can do is offer my condolences and sorrow. I do know the Work will continue. Thank you Laura for sharing with us on the forum.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: RyanX on March 02, 2010, 05:19:52 PM
Laura,

My condolences to Martha's family and you as well. 

I had read a number of Martha's articles and found them to be spot on when it came to understanding the world and pathocracy.  When I saw the news of her death I looked back and reread some of her articles just to see if there was anything I missed.  She definitely had an awareness beyond many writers I've read.

I remember she had a short bio on OpEdNews which I read some time ago.  For some reason her story really stuck out to me: 

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I am a Crowned Anarchist, socialist, feminist, poet, writer and vegetarian. I left America seven years ago because I wasn't going to become a victim of the hidden holocaust (http://hiddenmurder.blogspot.com) Industry was downsizing so society was, too.

I earned four university degrees to become one of the legions of workers that industry finds redundant and American society finds as "useless eaters." Born from a lower tier of society, all I ever did was live in the gutter in America!

On August 29, 1999 at 11:20 CST, my husband smothered me with a pillow. He was angry with me because I couldn't get a job when all the newscasts from the Twin Cities kept pronouncing "stories" that there were more jobs than employees to fill them. I and my educated friends couldn't find those jobs. Years later, it turned out to be propaganda to shred social safety nets, force wages down and hide the other dark sides of the "free market."

When I was smothered, I had an "out of body" Spiritual Journey that lasted a long time and it changed me forever.

After reading this I felt a sort of connection because I was living close to the twin cities around this same time and looking for a job as I was going to school.  She was correct, there were no jobs, only propaganda as she describes - which I learned years later as well, but always had that suspicion.

I hope she will guide your hand and/or Judyth's hand in publishing a readable version of Ponerology.  Lord knows such a book is desperately needed!

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Oxajil on March 02, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Really sad... My condolences to her family and you Laura.
May she be in peace.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: manitoban on March 02, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
I am saddened that yet another has been taken. All I can do is offer my condolences and sorrow. I do know the Work will continue. Thank you Laura for sharing with us on the forum.



Yes, sadly another bright light in the darkness has been extinguished. My condolences to her family, Laura and all who were touched by her efforts on behalf of humanity. 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: NormaRegula on March 02, 2010, 05:47:32 PM
Oh, gracious...what terribly sad news. I so enjoyed reading Martha Rose Crow's insightful articles and clear-cut style. Had no idea she was involved with Laura, the C's, and working on Ponerology for Dummies.

TPB (and their demonic master controllers) must really be worried about the free online publication of this work. Now, more than ever, this important work must continue despite their desperately evil machinations and fear-mongering ways. And the the work will continue. Others will take Martha's place to help finish the project. They can't get to all of us.

Hope this doesn't sound silly or take away from the gravity of the situation as two quotes from the very first Star Wars (A New Hope) came to mind when reading about Marth's passing away:

Princess Leia to Imperial Governor Tarkin: "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

Obi-Wan Kenobi to Darth Vader: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more
powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Something inside me says Martha's passing, like that of Pepperfritz, has energized many of us to continue our work despite the threats and fear of harm. Martha has, at least for me, become more powerful than the Forces of Entropy could possibly imagine.



Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gandalf on March 02, 2010, 05:55:49 PM
What a sad new and what a loss.

My condolences go to all her family as well as to you Laura.

May the Divine Cosmic Mind help her in her new step.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Marcus Aurelius on March 02, 2010, 06:11:06 PM
Really sad... My condolences to her family and you Laura.
May she be in peace.
Yes, very sad...
My condolescences to her family, friends and co-workers.
If this is PTB work, they should know that this is was not needed for us to understand how important what she was doing is for humanity and will not prevent us to continue in this way.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anart on March 02, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
I was thinking about her just last night.   This borders on unbelievable.  I'm at a loss for words.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nomad on March 02, 2010, 06:43:32 PM
This is just...  I'm speechless.

Martha, you will be remembered for your contribution to the quest.
Your work will be honoured and carried on by those of us who remain.

I don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Meg on March 02, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
This is really disturbing. The Consortium is working overtime, it seems. 

My condolences to you, her family and Judyth.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: slowone on March 02, 2010, 06:56:05 PM
This is really disturbing. The Consortium is working overtime, it seems. 

My condolences to you, her family and Judyth.

I agree I feel really low hearing this news.  My condolences to everyone.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Alana on March 02, 2010, 07:39:32 PM
I am just shocked to read this! I don't know what to say...

My condolences to all who knew Martha.

Martha, may you have a great adventure on your spiritual travels. I hope you don't come back here again.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gawan on March 02, 2010, 07:49:44 PM
This is really disturbing. The Consortium is working overtime, it seems. 


I second that.

So many sad news and happenings just in a pretty short time.

May divine cosmic mind bless you Martha, your family and everyone who knew you.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Bo on March 02, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
very sad news... my condolences to the family and Laura.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Aragorn on March 02, 2010, 08:48:33 PM
What sad and disturbing news! I'm not familiar with Martha and her work but I sure will read her now. That last email of hers felt really creepy somehow. Reading it made my stomach hurt. RIP Martha. :(
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gaby on March 02, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
I'm sure her work will see the light of day. May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Chu on March 02, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
I'm sure her work will see the light of day. May she rest in peace.

Amen. Rest in peace Martha.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Stuart on March 02, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
RIP Martha. My condolences go out to her family and friends.  :( 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Spiral Out on March 02, 2010, 09:43:09 PM
Wow, I don't know what to say. The consortium surely is taking up a notch in terms of damage-control. My condolences go out to Martha's family and friends.
But I'm also glad to hear that her project and work will be continued....
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Bluelamp on March 02, 2010, 09:49:15 PM
OK "Bob and Sue" made me briefly think PepperFritz wasn't such a special case; this really does.  For some reason this reminds me of that doomed cloned ship and crew of Star Trek Voyager that did all that was in it to do right up until the moment of disintegration.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: RedFox on March 02, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
OK "Bob and Sue" made me briefly think PepperFritz wasn't such a special case; this really does.  For some reason this reminds me of that doomed cloned ship and crew of Star Trek Voyager that did all that was in it to do right up until the moment of disintegration.
I know what you mean, it was a good episode.....but to consider this is on the fatalistic side of thinking. It is anticipation and closes off alternate possibilities.
If a small bunch of us doing E-E regularly had an impact and in effect triggered 'climate gate' (as the C's suggest) wouldn't that make the PTB sit up and pay attention (even if its the 4D STS PTB).....as such (and as horrific and sad as this and the other events are) I see this as a possible act of desperation on the PTB's part. It was pretty dam blatant.....unlike PepperFritz it appears completely obvious that it was deliberate.
If the PTB's chief weapon is that of staying hidden until the last possible moment (also that of intimidation and fear)....surely this is a pretty large mistake (an act of desperation?) on their part then? They showed there hand....and by doing so have added fuel to everyones fire here.

This is my current interpretation....I do not know if it is totally accurate or just wishful thinking however. I am feeling pretty indignant about their actions at the moment and this may be clouding my judgement. fwiw
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: AerinK`el on March 02, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
I recall dear Martha's last words of encouragement to me, and my meager home-remedy recommendations to help ease the pain of her illness, and I cannot help but feel deeply blessed in having known her.  She remains a special gift to each of us, and I would like to honor her with my vision of her ascension from this level of Hell into a far, far better place: 

And as she lay wrapped in
 the misty soft warmth
 of awakening
she pondered
 the swirling pink spiraling
  around her, throughout
   her knowing,
   and she blessed the Goddess
    that lay between her and soul
and the three became one
and honor was shared
 among all.

Kathy
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Flashgordonv on March 02, 2010, 11:02:45 PM
This borders on unbelievable.  I'm at a loss for words.

Agreed.  Please continue to take great care Laura and the team.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: andi on March 02, 2010, 11:12:46 PM
Lately, things are going nuts!!! What's next?

My condolences.
Quote from: Ailén
Quote from: Psyche
I'm sure her work will see the light of day. May she rest in peace.

Amen. Rest in peace Martha.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: SAO on March 02, 2010, 11:42:30 PM
My deepest sympathy and condolences to Martha's family, Laura, and everyone who ever benefitted from Martha's work. It seems that lately so many people have been going through all sorts of attack. People's relatives and friends have been sick, all kinds of accidents, so many celebrity deaths and tragedies like plane explisions and earthquakes in 2009 and early 2010 now, etc. I don't know if things are escalating but it sure seems that way. The arrival of EE also seems to have a perfect timing. May Martha rest in peace, and let's not give the dark what it is trying to accomplish, let's keep shining that light.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: D on March 03, 2010, 12:02:50 AM
Wow.. this is very sad news. :cry:

I'm pretty much at a loss for words too..

May she RIP and my condolences to her family and you Laura. I look forward to reading the book she was working on. I know it will be of great value to everyone.

May the Divine Cosmic Mind bless her soul.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on March 03, 2010, 12:16:55 AM
What a brave lady. Determined to shine the light. In the tradition of Mr L and Laura.  What an inspiration. Divine Comic Mind bless her.

Mac :cry:
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Arctodus on March 03, 2010, 02:07:24 AM
If _ever_ there was proof needed that..... (shakes head)

Oh my Lord, my heart goes out to Martha Rose Crow, her family and friends. May this "Ponerology for Dummies" get published as quickly as possible and go viral.
The more that normal people understand about psychopathy and it's insidious effects on society at large, the better we will all be.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gimpy on March 03, 2010, 02:22:51 AM
Last night I almost emailed the group asking if anyone else felt something Weird Was Going On. All day Hubby and I were avoiding crazy drivers and other incidents, even bizarre accidents at home with dropping glasses and knocking stuff over...Hubby asked me outright;"Is there something going on out there honey? I mean, what the hell?" Today was spent resting and detoxing as gently as I could, but I had nightmares every time I slept.

So I agree with Martha, it appears TBP are taking pot shots, and we all need to be extra careful.  :cry: :(


She's cool where she is, I'm sure, once she got over being flaming mad.  :halo:
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Away With The Fairys on March 03, 2010, 02:33:19 AM
I saw your FB post today Laura , but knew not what project  you were speaking of. Solveig and I read through the post here  just now and it has saddened us deeply.

Be vigilant and be safe .


Our deepest condolences to Martha and all who were close to her.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Odyssey on March 03, 2010, 02:34:41 AM
I also wasn't aware of Martha Rose Crows work.  I'm going to seek it out now.  May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: mkrnhr on March 03, 2010, 03:00:25 AM
How sad. May she find he way, and those she love have patience in their hearts. May the Divine Cosmic Mind bless all.

Edit : and agree with Gimpy : We have to be very careful.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mrs. Peel on March 03, 2010, 03:33:47 AM
I was thinking about her just last night.   This borders on unbelievable.  I'm at a loss for words.

Unbelievable, yes.  Mighty suspicious.  My consolances to you Laura for the loss of a friend and to Martha's family.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nicolas on March 03, 2010, 03:36:26 AM
I also wasn't aware of Martha Rose Crows work.  I'm going to seek it out now.  May she rest in peace.

I also was not aware of her work. I hope she fulfilled her mission.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Niall on March 03, 2010, 03:37:58 AM
BASTARDS

Maybe we should move this project within the network, to protect Judyth and give this project running legs?
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Manuel on March 03, 2010, 04:04:43 AM
I had just invited her to be my facebook-friend last night...

My deep condolences to you, Laura, and to everyone who knew her and her work. The torch will keep shining.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Vulcan59 on March 03, 2010, 04:20:04 AM
May she rest in peace.  :cry:
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Lorraine on March 03, 2010, 04:56:29 AM
My condolences to Martha’s family, I’m not familiar with her work but she sounds like an outstanding lady.

Somehow this was a shock when I read Laura’s post this morning.  It chilled me and I felt my arms and legs go heavy.  I had watched The Matrix on TV last night.  Some things had gone over my head when I first saw it and things were clicking last night so when I read of Martha’s death it threw me.

So many horrible events are happening – please take care everyone.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Judyth on March 03, 2010, 05:05:00 AM
I am Judyth Vary Baker.  The book will be finished, into which we have poured everything.
It is relete with updated and current examples of ponerology in action in today's world.
We updated some aspects of psychoanalytic and sociological theory,and expanded the
book's quotability factors. I transmuted clinical termnology and jargon into understandable
English for intelligent readers (not dummies!), employing as memorable material to
provide sensory input in the visuals as possible.  Martha corrected for spirit and essence:
we had to pull disparate parts of the book together because many concepts were
scattered and undeveloped: it was obvious that the book had been compiled from reports
and papers.  We became more fiercely devoted than ever to our mutual goal of fighting evil
in this darkened place.  We finished 95% of the book. I assure you the final product will soon
be in Laura's possession.
   Martha Rose Crow could see what many could not.  We believed in spiritual purity and took
the warrior's stance. We always will. We received threats the days before she died, as did
Dr. James Fetzer who just wrote two blogs about my upcoming book, Me & Lee,who was
shocked, as in 20 years of impressive research nto dangerous areas, he had never received
a death threat before. So much then occurred to his blogs, posts, computers, websites and email
systems that he was astonioshed.
  You should not be.
  The battle is real. I have fled for my life more than once, and currently live in exile. I will be
able to post here only very infrequently. I have not posted on a newsgroup due to death threats,
stalking, harrassment and the harm that came to loved ones, or allowed an interview for these
reasons, since the documentary on my life with my lover, the innocent Lee Harvey Oswald (patriot
and hero, who died trying to save Kennedy--now how outrageous that may sound depends on
how far you know this evil system can carry its destructive lies!)....the documentary was
the first banned in the 'history' of the History Channel. Visit http://www.judythvarybaker.com
to view the documentary, or Dr. James Fetzer's blogspot.com JUDYTH...understand that only
a few hours after my last interview with Fetzer, the most vivid light in my life -- Martha--blazed iself to
extinction in the flesh--but never in the universe into which she has surely exploded in her own inimitable
and joyous way, probably creating a whole galaxy by doing so, filled with life and beauty.
  There wll never be another MARTHA ROSE CROW.  We were dear friends: she wrote on all
her blogs, JUDYTH VARY BAKER IS MY BEST FRIEND! and from that moment, the attacks began.
   All her blogs at one point vanished.  Restored, her yahoo account turned off. restored, her
listings on google shrank.  She said, "I don't care if I lose all my blogs, I will NEVER remove your
website or your picture from my blogs!"  Please forgive any typos, for I am weeping.
    Call it a 'heart attack' but funny things were going on.  Evil was slamming us around.
It is not as it seems. You need to know that.  When you go against the big guns of evil,
better have the guts to take the bullets-- for they will come.  it doesn't matter if your blood
 spills, for as as it spills, it writes the word LOVE, and floods the dark plains to the very
 highest turrets of the Dark Towers.  For every one of us dedicated to life and its wonders,
against suffering and evil, who know what hell we've been thrust into here, every drop of blood
we shed, every heartbeat in our breasts quickened by terror and fierce resolve to continue the
struggle, for every one of us who stands against the appalling darkness, a galaxy of light is born.
    Love is all we have, my friends.
    And it's enough.
JVB
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anart on March 03, 2010, 05:13:54 AM
Hello, Judyth, it is wonderful to hear from you.  Thank you - so much -  for your efforts and know that we are weeping with you.  This work will be published and, obviously, it will make an enormous difference.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Alana on March 03, 2010, 05:23:07 AM
We became more fiercely devoted than ever to our mutual goal of fighting evil
in this darkened place.  We finished 95% of the book. I assure you the final product will soon
be in Laura's possession.

Thank you for your post Judyth, and for your courage to continue. You and Martha are certainly an inspiration to us all. Loosing your best friend and comrade must be a very painful experience, i am sure. Know though that Martha is on a better place right now, and you, you are not alone, you will have our continual support.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: D on March 03, 2010, 05:23:32 AM
Hi Judyth

Thank you for posting. Your post brought tears to my eyes.. I'm very sorry for the loss of your dear friend. I just wanted to say that it is people like you two that give me strength to fight this evil. Please keep doing what you do. United we stand Judyth! We are with you!
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: NormaRegula on March 03, 2010, 06:19:45 AM
My condolences for your loss of a best friend from this world, Judyth. When I first read Laura's post about Martha's passing this morning, I felt sadness, anger, outrage, and then resolve to help light the way through the darkness that you and your late friend have been battling all these years.

Spent most of this day scouring the net for Martha Rose Crow's material and read of her love for you with links to your upcoming book - which I am going to order - and the videos of the Nigel Turner JFK documentary that featured your amazing story.

Prayers of healing go out to you.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Renaissance on March 03, 2010, 06:35:13 AM
This is awful news.  What an incredible loss for everyone.  My heart goes out to her family and loved ones.

Judyth, thank you for you message.  I'm sorry for the loss of your dear friend.  Martha Rose Crow was a powerful writer and had an amazing ability to see the world as it is.  I wish you safety as you complete this project.  We are here if you need support.


For anyone not familiar with Martha's material, you can see her gift by reading this:
America's Darkest Secret: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/124948-America-s-Darkest-Secret-The-Nine-Stages-of-American-Autogenocide)
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: c.a. on March 03, 2010, 06:54:54 AM
Truly a sad day of the passing of another Brave Soul whom did not lie down with lambs but ran against the wolfs. And would continue her fight for truth as a light bearer for  freedom. Another Warrior against the crusade of evil and the infernal chaos, intimidation, and fear they continue to peddle in there desperate attempts as means of control in the coming uncontrollable times.  Viva Martha's memory for her bravery and her undaunted efforts to spread the truth in the face of a lie.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mrs. Tigersoap on March 03, 2010, 08:21:02 AM
This is just awful, I don't know what to say.
My sincerest condolences.  :cry:
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Aidylsun B. on March 03, 2010, 08:55:50 AM
Hello Judyth,

Although I did not know your friend, Martha Rose Crow, I do know what it is like to lose a best friend.  It sounds like she committed her life to a mighty purpose.  My condolences to you and to all your loved ones and many blessings as you continue on your path.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: domi on March 03, 2010, 08:59:15 AM
Martha Rose Crow, warrior of truth and light, I salute you.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Biomiast on March 03, 2010, 09:21:44 AM
This is terrible news. I didn't know Martha's work, but her commitment and sacrifices brought tears to my eyes. I can't believe how low those guys can get to supress the truth. I was thinking about earthquake in Chilie and our fear for forum members there, then I read about Martha's death. I can't believe, how fragile life is on BBM, especially with catastrophes coming.

Judyth, it was nice hearing from you, please take care of yourself and loved ones.

Martha, you are a brave soul, and your sacrifice means a lot to all of us. I will never forget you or your efforts. I will carry your death as a mirror to show what we are fighting for. May you have fun and find peace wherever you are, you deserved it.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 03, 2010, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: Al Today
I am saddened that yet another has been taken. All I can do is offer my condolences and sorrow. I do know the Work will continue. Thank you Laura for sharing with us on the forum.

Quote from: NormaRegula
Something inside me says Martha's passing, like that of Pepperfritz, has energized many of us to continue our work despite the threats and fear of harm. Martha has, at least for me, become more powerful than the Forces of Entropy could possibly imagine.

There is little more to say. 

Today, I read her article posted on SotT, America's Darkest Secret: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide, it was insightful and knowledgeable, I can see that she will be sorely missed. 

RIP Martha.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Ask_a_debtor on March 03, 2010, 12:07:49 PM
Thank you so much, Judyth for taking the time to write to us here on the forum, and for continuing on to finish this project.  You are truly inspirational in your dedication, and I'm sure that Martha will follow with you in heart.

Just want to point out that the link given in Judy's post has the t and h switched and it should be: http://www.judythvarybaker.com   Since she only has one post and does not have the ability to edit, maybe one of the mods could go in and fix that?

Visit http://www.judyhtvarybaker.com to view the documentary, or Dr. James Fetzer's blogspot.com JUDYTH...

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: seek10 on March 03, 2010, 12:10:45 PM
I am Judyth Vary Baker.  The book will be finished, into which we have poured everything.
It is relete with updated and current examples of ponerology in action in today's world.
We updated some aspects of psychoanalytic and sociological theory,and expanded the
book's quotability factors. I transmuted clinical termnology and jargon into understandable
English for intelligent readers (not dummies!), employing as memorable material to
provide sensory input in the visuals as possible.  Martha corrected for spirit and essence:
we had to pull disparate parts of the book together because many concepts were
scattered and undeveloped: it was obvious that the book had been compiled from reports
and papers.  We became more fiercely devoted than ever to our mutual goal of fighting evil
in this darkened place.  We finished 95% of the book. I assure you the final product will soon
be in Laura's possession.
   Martha Rose Crow could see what many could not.  We believed in spiritual purity and took
the warrior's stance. We always will. We received threats the days before she died, as did
Dr. James Fetzer who just wrote two blogs about my upcoming book, Me & Lee,who was
shocked, as in 20 years of impressive research nto dangerous areas, he had never received
a death threat before. So much then occurred to his blogs, posts, computers, websites and email
systems that he was astonioshed.
  You should not be.
  The battle is real. I have fled for my life more than once, and currently live in exile. I will be
able to post here only very infrequently. I have not posted on a newsgroup due to death threats,
stalking, harrassment and the harm that came to loved ones, or allowed an interview for these
reasons, since the documentary on my life with my lover, the innocent Lee Harvey Oswald (patriot
and hero, who died trying to save Kennedy--now how outrageous that may sound depends on
how far you know this evil system can carry its destructive lies!)....the documentary was
the first banned in the 'history' of the History Channel. Visit http://www.judyhtvarybaker.com
to view the documentary, or Dr. James Fetzer's blogspot.com JUDYTH...understand that only
a few hours after my last interview with Fetzer, the most vivid light in my life -- Martha--blazed iself to
extinction in the flesh--but never in the universe into which she has surely exploded in her own inimitable
and joyous way, probably creating a whole galaxy by doing so, filled with life and beauty.
  There wll never be another MARTHA ROSE CROW.  We were dear friends: she wrote on all
her blogs, JUDYTH VARY BAKER IS MY BEST FRIEND! and from that moment, the attacks began.
   All her blogs at one point vanished.  Restored, her yahoo account turned off. restored, her
listings on google shrank.  She said, "I don't care if I lose all my blogs, I will NEVER remove your
website or your picture from my blogs!"  Please forgive any typos, for I am weeping.
    Call it a 'heart attack' but funny things were going on.  Evil was slamming us around.
It is not as it seems. You need to know that.  When you go against the big guns of evil,
better have the guts to take the bullets-- for they will come.  it doesn't matter if your blood
 spills, for as as it spills, it writes the word LOVE, and floods the dark plains to the very
 highest turrets of the Dark Towers.  For every one of us dedicated to life and its wonders,
against suffering and evil, who know what hell we've been thrust into here, every drop of blood
we shed, every heartbeat in our breasts quickened by terror and fierce resolve to continue the
struggle, for every one of us who stands against the appalling darkness, a galaxy of light is born.
    Love is all we have, my friends.
    And it's enough.
JVB

thank you Judyth for post and all your work. You and Martha , your teams  are all brave souls.  
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on March 03, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Hi, Judyth; Thanks for so much for your brave, perseverance. It is heartening to know this crucial work will be published.

The bad guys have revealed by their actions how important Martha and your work really is. They must be worried about this one.

Take care.

Mac
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Saša on March 03, 2010, 01:24:58 PM
Thank you Judith for your post.

Martha,
You've been an inspiration for many of us here and you'll be greatly missed.
Hope you accomplished at least some part of that you set in front of you for this lifetime and hope that we will meet in person sometime and somewhere in the future.
Rest in peace.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Chu on March 03, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Thank you so much for your post, Judith. I am sure that Martha knows you will keep fighting, and that she would have wished for you to finish this as well as other projects. Please take care, and know that although we don't know you nor Martha in person, we are with you and are your friends in this battle.

As E. Burk  said, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". We can't do it alone. Let's keep doing something together.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Puck on March 03, 2010, 02:33:02 PM
Thank you Judyth and Martha. I am also at a loss from words. Everything seems to be accelerating and the conflict is becoming more visceral. A timely reminder that this is a War. A Thought-War, a War between levels of awareness fought within our very own minds.

Every choice we make matters, from the smallest to life-altering commitments. It blows my mind.

RIP Martha - know that others will continue in your stead.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Niall on March 03, 2010, 02:33:09 PM
Thank you for letting us know you are safe Judyth. We are always near and cheering you on to the completion of the book. You're an incredibly brave and wonderful woman.

Quote from: JVB
....the innocent Lee Harvey Oswald (patriot and hero, who died trying to save Kennedy--now how outrageous that may sound depends on how far you know this evil system can carry its destructive lies!)

I recently watched Oliver Stone's JFK and learned for the first time that Lee Oswald may in fact have been playing a role as one of the assassins in Dallas that infamous day but with a view to warning people about the plot.

Now I've just watched Judyth's amazing interview that begins here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ry3DrsN9PY&feature=PlayList&p=0ED4E37B91ABEDC4&index=0&playnext=1). This is part one of an episode in the series The Men Who Killed Kennedy made by the History Channel, and aired in 2003. This episode however, was cut from the series and never shown. You'll soon see why.

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VUV6yxKLVo&feature=related)

Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aklVBe8Miag&feature=related)

Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stOc3dqZaVE&feature=related)

Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGg48WFkabY&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Harold on March 03, 2010, 03:19:13 PM
RIP Martha.
May our thoughts and prayers and cares soften the blow of this loss to those who were close to her and may it strenghten the resolve for Judyth and all of us to rise up, carry on from where those who have fallen, with their memories in our hearts, this will be our bond. Her last gift.... this bond.... may it shield us just long enough to close ranks and march on.

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieve it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: fille des bois on March 03, 2010, 03:24:15 PM
Quote from: Al Today
I am saddened that yet another has been taken. All I can do is offer my condolences and sorrow. I do know the Work will continue. Thank you Laura for sharing with us on the forum.

Quote from: NormaRegula
Something inside me says Martha's passing, like that of Pepperfritz, has energized many of us to continue our work despite the threats and fear of harm. Martha has, at least for me, become more powerful than the Forces of Entropy could possibly imagine.

There is little more to say. 

Today, I read her article posted on SotT, America's Darkest Secret: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide, it was insightful and knowledgeable, I can see that she will be sorely missed. 

RIP Martha.

Today i was thinking about Karla Turner too, Martha and Karla were so brave and talented , they can't really disappear , they will stay in our hart
sinceres condoleances
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nienna on March 03, 2010, 03:45:32 PM
Laura, Judyth, my deepest sympathies for your loss in such a wonderful and gifted person and friend.

There is no ends to the terrible, wanton destruction of lives and the death of good people that are happening to those who stand up for the truth and to share this truth with others.

May Martha Rose Crow rest in peace....but I have a feeling that her work is not done, she will be one of many fighting the darkness with us from 5D.

Judyth, I thank you so much for you help in getting this much needed version of Political Ponerology "out there" to the public.  It seems that you have been suffering at the hands of these despicable beings for many years now, and it is so unfair and unfortunate.

We are here for you if needed.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: zlyja on March 03, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
Thank you Martha and Judyth for all of your hard work. I am not familiar with Martha's material, but I will now seek to understand the messages she wanted to send. As others have said, it's horrible that the PTB are attacking us like this; first PepperFritz and now Martha, because they have helped us to wake up and learn the truth of this harsh reality, allowing us to learn and make our lives better. I hope that she is free of any pain she has endured on this planet, that she will continue to learn her lessons, and that what she has written will have a lasting impact on humanity. I pray that all involved in this great project will be protected from the influence of these foul beings. May Divine Cosmic Mind bless all who ask for its help, and may we continue to stand united.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: istina on March 03, 2010, 06:52:49 PM

So sad.

"The battle is real" ! Thank you Martha!! Thank you Judith!!

So much evil events this days. What a terrible world this is!

All I was thinking this days was that so much negativity must produced quite opposite for the balance.
I hope.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Tigersoap on March 03, 2010, 07:29:18 PM
Thank you Judith !!
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: rylek on March 03, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
Yes, this is very sad news indeed, as another important bearer or Truth has been taken out. I've learned much from her articles and will be re-reading them.

As already mentioned it seems like the attacks are intensifying, coming from all directions, not to mention all the happenings with world-wide disasters such as the recent earthquakes.

This makes me think about Laura's appearance at the Nexus conference, hope you all from the Chateau will be extra extra careful on your journey!
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gimpy on March 03, 2010, 08:34:04 PM
Laura, Judyth, my deepest sympathies for your loss in such a wonderful and gifted person and friend.

There is no ends to the terrible, wanton destruction of lives and the death of good people that are happening to those who stand up for the truth and to share this truth with others.

May Martha Rose Crow rest in peace....but I have a feeling that her work is not done, she will be one of many fighting the darkness with us from 5D.

Judyth, I thank you so much for you help in getting this much needed version of Political Ponerology "out there" to the public.  It seems that you have been suffering at the hands of these despicable beings for many years now, and it is so unfair and unfortunate.

We are here for you if needed.


Just finished watching the youtube segments, that are pretty jaw dropping.  I can't add to whats been said above here very well,...other than to say the same again.

We are here for you if needed.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Shijing on March 03, 2010, 09:29:47 PM
My condolences as well, to both Judyth and Laura, for the loss of Martha.  The circumstances that Laura related at the beginning of this thread about the time around Martha's death were surreal, and very troubling.  I hope that Martha is at rest right now after all of the hard work that she obviously did here during her life.  Thanks to Judyth for your past and present work and your willingness to get the ponerology book done, which I am sure will help a lot of people and I can't wait to see (and also to Laura, for giving her all of your support in this project).
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: lux on March 03, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
My condolences to Martha's family... And you Laura...
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Oxajil on March 03, 2010, 11:50:38 PM
Thank you Judith for your post. I have much respect for you, Martha and all those who stand for Truth.

Please be careful. I will pray for protection for you and others, Thank you.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Herakles on March 04, 2010, 12:14:13 AM
thank-you Judyth for such touching words and inner resolve,what a lovely way to describe your friend.  I knew Martha not but have viewed her sites since posted and the dedication and work is tremendous.  One way or another the work will carry forward, yet in the moments of bereavement, we just want to be human and feel deeply the sorrow, the triumphs, the joys and life of those known and loved.  but that is why the work must continue, for what a difference, to be human with conscience fighting to expose the fact that some in the world are, indeed, not human, without conscience.

thank-you Martha for all you have given.

I salute your courage and strength.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anya on March 04, 2010, 12:29:14 AM
Rest in peace Martha Rose Crow.  My condolances to Laura, Judyth and Martha's friends and family. 
I will pray that Laura and Judyth remain safe and able to continue their work.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Gertrudes on March 04, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
I am speechless.....This is so, so disturbing I really don't know what to say....

Quote from: Puck
Everything seems to be accelerating and the conflict is becoming more visceral. A timely reminder that this is a War. A Thought-War, a War between levels of awareness fought within our very own minds.

Every choice we make matters, from the smallest to life-altering commitments. It blows my mind.

So true...

I can only express my most profound admiration and gratitude to both Martha and Judyth for their work. Thank you.

Martha, may you rest in peace.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Rhiannon on March 04, 2010, 01:16:08 AM
My condolences to Laura, Judyth and Martha's friends and family.

I hope that Laura and Judyth remain safe and able to continue their work. Please be very careful!
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: sashabloem on March 04, 2010, 01:19:50 AM
Dear All,
I hereby announce that Her bodily rests will be cremated
next Friday at 08:30 in
Yarden Crematorium Schagerkogge
Haringhuizerweg 3 (In de buurt) (around)
1741 NC Schagen Telefoon: +31 224 213 409

my number is  for more info


[personal number removed by moderator for your protection]
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anart on March 04, 2010, 02:00:58 AM
Thank you very much for the information, Sasha. 

I have removed your personal number for your privacy, since this is a public part of the forum.  I've made the number available to the moderators if anyone needs it.  We'll be with you in spirit.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on March 04, 2010, 02:53:05 AM
Thank you for letting us know you are safe Judyth. We are always near and cheering you on to the completion of the book. You're an incredibly brave and wonderful woman.

Quote from: JVB
....the innocent Lee Harvey Oswald (patriot and hero, who died trying to save Kennedy--now how outrageous that may sound depends on how far you know this evil system can carry its destructive lies!)

I recently watched Oliver Stone's JFK and learned for the first time that Lee Oswald may in fact have been playing a role as one of the assassins in Dallas that infamous day but with a view to warning people about the plot.

Now I've just watched Judyth's amazing interview that begins here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ry3DrsN9PY&feature=PlayList&p=0ED4E37B91ABEDC4&index=0&playnext=1). This is part one of an episode in the series The Men Who Killed Kennedy made by the History Channel, and aired in 2003. This episode however, was cut from the series and never shown. You'll soon see why.



Thanks for the links, Knail, I hadn't seen this before. I was 16 when JFK was killed. When Lee Oswald was shot a few days later anyone with any common sense knew it was to shut him up. If he was the killer and acted alone why kill him?

Judyth's story is so moving, Lee Oswald becomes a real person who loved, had dreams then became entangled in a web of monstrous proportions. He has been painted a villain for so long. Thanks so much for telling your story, Judyth.

Mac



Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Woodsman on March 04, 2010, 03:10:55 AM
Oh god, so THAT's what was going on.

These last few days have been among the most dark I've experienced in years.  It has been an uphill battle just to get out of bed in the morning; for reasons I've been casting about trying to identify, I've been waking up with my heart wrenched around inside me, weird new pains in a body which is otherwise healthy and well-fed.  I've been enormously sad and depressed to the point where I've actually been reciting the reasons for incarnating in these times. . .

There were many candidates, but WE were chosen.  We argued for the position.  We came here because we promised to do the job and do our best.  To not give up!

To leave early, to leave by choice, even when the pain is suffocating, is to let everybody down.  Duty, duty, duty.  On bad days, staying alive long enough to laugh and love and work again after the cloud lifts, (and the cloud always lifts), is a win.  And some days, it is the job description.

Also. . , no matter how bad you have it, remember the Third World.  You are a prince or a princess by somebody else's standards; somebody who isn't giving up.

Martha Rose Crow did not give up.  She was slain.  She fought with courage and supreme will power, and in doing so, she made the battle easier for everybody else to win.  Don't let her efforts be in vain.  We owe her.  The nation asks, "Are you brave enough to die for your country?"  That's all backwards.  It should be asked, "Are you brave enough to LIVE?"

Cultivate and honor healthy friendships.  When things get to be too much, it's okay to put the day on hold to share hugs and tea and stories.  Encourage each other.  Help each other glow!  I've not yet seen the dark cloud which can survive that.  Then. . , get back to work!

I love you all.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: RyanX on March 04, 2010, 04:25:09 AM
Thank you for letting us know you are safe Judyth. We are always near and cheering you on to the completion of the book. You're an incredibly brave and wonderful woman.

Quote from: JVB
....the innocent Lee Harvey Oswald (patriot and hero, who died trying to save Kennedy--now how outrageous that may sound depends on how far you know this evil system can carry its destructive lies!)

I recently watched Oliver Stone's JFK and learned for the first time that Lee Oswald may in fact have been playing a role as one of the assassins in Dallas that infamous day but with a view to warning people about the plot.

Now I've just watched Judyth's amazing interview that begins here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ry3DrsN9PY&feature=PlayList&p=0ED4E37B91ABEDC4&index=0&playnext=1). This is part one of an episode in the series The Men Who Killed Kennedy made by the History Channel, and aired in 2003. This episode however, was cut from the series and never shown. You'll soon see why.

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VUV6yxKLVo&feature=related)

Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aklVBe8Miag&feature=related)

Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stOc3dqZaVE&feature=related)

Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGg48WFkabY&feature=related)

Just finished watching these.  Wow... I'm at a loss for words.   :cry:

Judyth, my heart goes out to you.  For the loss of your friend Martha, for the terrible things you've had to endure in this lifetime.  You are one brave soul

I really hope you guys can get this book published.  This evil on the planet must be exposed, once and for all.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: wanderer33 on March 04, 2010, 07:10:52 AM
Having to carry around that secret for so long must have been unbearable. As a long time anarchist, I feel like we have lost one of the best of us. There is no doubt in my mind that its a war for human dignity and true freedom. I take solace in the fact that whatever they try in preventing  the future, it won't be enough and they will eventually be steamrolled out of their positions of power. The cosmos itself is challenging them.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Darek on March 04, 2010, 07:24:35 AM
I am very sorry to hear of this very sad news. My condolences to friends and family.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on March 04, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
Could "Ponerology for Dummies" be published in the manner that Dave McGowan puts out his stuff?

If Chapter One is ready put it up on the net. Then maybe once a week or two add another chapter. This would allow time for the final chapters to be finished while getting at least part of it out there immediately. The dark forces seem to really want to stop this publication. Time is crucial.

FWIW

Mac
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: shellycheval on March 04, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
More horror—I first read some of Martha Rose Crow’s work several years ago—it was gut wrenching and carried that hair-raising, dead-weight feeling of undeniable truth.  Her work, like Laura’s, has been responsible for opening my eyes and literally changing my worldview and sense if purpose in life.

So much has been so well said here already that I am in complete and heartfelt agreement with:    

Quote
NormaRegula:  Something inside me says Martha's passing, like that of Pepperfritz, has energized many of us to continue our work despite the threats and fear of harm. Martha has, at least for me, become more powerful than the Forces of Entropy could possibly imagine.

Quote
Deedlet: Thank you for posting. Your post brought tears to my eyes.. I'm very sorry for the loss of your dear friend. I just wanted to say that it is people like you two that give me strength to fight this evil. Please keep doing what you do. United we stand Judyth! We are with you!

Tears also came to me reading Judyth’s post—my deepest sympathy goes out to you Judyth on the loss of your friend, and to all those who knew and loved Martha Rose Crow.  
Judyth your heroism in continuing the work is inspirational and I pray you, and Laura, and others who are “carrying the fire” remain safe.
shellycheval
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Breton on March 04, 2010, 01:27:52 PM
Could "Ponerology for Dummies" be published in the manner that Dave McGowan puts out his stuff?

If Chapter One is ready put it up on the net. Then maybe once a week or two add another chapter. This would allow time for the final chapters to be finished while getting at least part of it out there immediately. The dark forces seem to really want to stop this publication. Time is crucial.

FWIW

Mac

I was thinking in a similar way -  how I have understood from some of Laura's experiences that for certain projects and certain writings, once it is "out there" it can often eliminate the need for the dark forces to pursue the issue anymore because it is too late, and any attack after the fact might just lend the work more credibility, and bring unwanted attention to it.  But that assumes that the attacks are being stepped up because of this particular project and I cannot KNOW that for sure. But I thought Mac may have had a good idea about this.

By the way, I want to also share how a wave of anger washed through my body as I read this thread and put 2 and 2 together about what probably went on with Martha. My condolences to all who lost a dear one! She seems like someone I wish I had known. My heart goes out to you Judyth in particular, now I have become somewhat familiar with you and your story from looking at the youtube video postings of your interview.


Let me finish this with some memory of others that have been involved in this battle:

Quote

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventures215.htm

As we have already noted in several places, there were numerous instances when the Cassiopaeans gave instructions that we not publish certain material related to our research because it was dangerous. We can see from just the short examination of the subject above, that this isn't a joke. People really do die when they get too close to things. And often, their deaths are utilized to give credibility to a corrupted variation of what they were actually thinking or doing so as to keep the rumor machine going, and to lead others off the track.

Karla Turner is another one who was onto the hyperdimensional nature of the UFO phenomenon and she suddenly developed a particularly virulent form of cancer. The C's even sent a warning, which I duly delivered. She didn't take it seriously. I really valued our internet friendship, and when she wrote me for the last time, telling me that she was too weak to continue her correspondence, I wept.

There is another death that still bothers me. The old man I have written about elsewhere who was the "insider" to the Coral Castle story: Hilliard. He was in an auto accident the day after I first went to visit with him and talk about the Coral Castle. In December of 1996, he came to visit me here, and it was during that visit that he revealed his origins as Polish/Lithuanian when I shared with him the fact that Ark would soon be coming to America. He asked specifically that once Ark had arrived, I was to bring him to visit because he had something important to tell us together. We made the plans, and on the morning we were going to make the drive over to Orlando, I called to let him know we were leaving the house so he would know when to look for our arrival. His neighbor answered the phone and informed me that the old man had just suffered a stroke and was en route to the hospital as we were speaking. He died shortly after. Whatever he wanted to tell Ark, he never got the chance.


Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: RyanX on March 04, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
Could "Ponerology for Dummies" be published in the manner that Dave McGowan puts out his stuff?

If Chapter One is ready put it up on the net. Then maybe once a week or two add another chapter. This would allow time for the final chapters to be finished while getting at least part of it out there immediately. The dark forces seem to really want to stop this publication. Time is crucial.

FWIW

Mac

I was thinking in a similar way -  how I have understood from some of Laura's experiences that for certain projects and certain writings, once it is "out there" it can often eliminate the need for the dark forces to pursue the issue anymore because it is too late, and any attack after the fact might just lend the work more credibility, and bring unwanted attention to it.  But that assumes that the attacks are being stepped up because of this particular project and I cannot KNOW that for sure. But I thought Mac may have had a good idea about this.


I think this might be a good idea as well.  If the intention is to get the book out there online for free (along with a sale of hard copies), would it really change anything to release the first couple chapters immediately?  Distribute it as widely as possible and get it on a lot of blogs.  Get people talking about it.  It seems like getting it out there and distributing the text across a number of websites might be a good way to ward off attack on any one individual, OSIT.  
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: sleepermustawaken on March 04, 2010, 03:56:03 PM
Sadden by the news...My deepest condolances to the Family and to all that have known Martha.

prayer: Divine Cosmic Mind protect all who seek to share the truth.

 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: SeekinTruth on March 04, 2010, 05:41:52 PM
God, this is so sad. I'm trying to catch up reading on the forum and sott pages and the sad news just keeps piling up.

My deepest condolances to Martha's family, friends, Judyth, Laura and everyone who was inspired by this truly inspiring woman. Her work stands to affect humanity in a positive way and to give the rest of us the push to work ever harder in pursuit of getting the truth out to people so that we may all work together end this hell created by the most ruthless psychopaths. Each time one of these brave and beautiful souls is killed in this battle, the rest of us only become more determined to carry on their work and fight to get the truth out.

Laura, Judyth, and everyone affected by this really sad news, my heart goes out to you. Please be extra careful and take care of yourselves so we may be able to carry on our battle. We need trailblazers like these TRULY inspiring women for the rest of us to become our best.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Pierre on March 04, 2010, 09:20:02 PM
Martha and Judith are such exceptional sources of inspiration.

The best "revenge" of all is to publish "Ponerology for Dummies" so people can discover the real evil that plagues our world for centuries and they might stop, one day, being defenseless in front of those bullies who took so many beautiful lives and generated so much suffering.

From the depth of my heart thank you Martha and Judith.


Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Sid on March 04, 2010, 10:50:36 PM
My deepest condolances to the group and Martha's well wishers. I read the article on the Sott.net and became so much depressed for it was quite an eye opener and had a pretty stressful time all day yesterday. The tactics employed by the consortium are ludicrous to say the least. I wish to say more but short of words right now. The situation is so hopeless that at times I feel, there is no end to this despite re-assurances from C's themselves. Only nature can correct this and nothing else. O comets! where art thou!

-Sid :(
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on March 04, 2010, 10:52:10 PM
Could "Ponerology for Dummies" be published in the manner that Dave McGowan puts out his stuff?

If Chapter One is ready put it up on the net. Then maybe once a week or two add another chapter. This would allow time for the final chapters to be finished while getting at least part of it out there immediately. The dark forces seem to really want to stop this publication. Time is crucial.

FWIW

Mac

I was thinking in a similar way -  how I have understood from some of Laura's experiences that for certain projects and certain writings, once it is "out there" it can often eliminate the need for the dark forces to pursue the issue anymore because it is too late, and any attack after the fact might just lend the work more credibility, and bring unwanted attention to it.  But that assumes that the attacks are being stepped up because of this particular project and I cannot KNOW that for sure. But I thought Mac may have had a good idea about this.


I think this might be a good idea as well.  If the intention is to get the book out there online for free (along with a sale of hard copies), would it really change anything to release the first couple chapters immediately?  Distribute it as widely as possible and get it on a lot of blogs.  Get people talking about it.  It seems like getting it out there and distributing the text across a number of websites might be a good way to ward off attack on any one individual, OSIT. 


Maybe put them up as a serial on SOTT.  SOTT's fine editors could help with proofing and editing, and having the chapters in serial form would drive more traffic to the site. Promote the book and SOTT at the same time.

Mac
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: dantem on March 05, 2010, 01:07:19 AM
My condolences for this big loss.

Thanks for sharing this info about Martha, there's still hope if creative people like her are resonating with the C's material and offer a hand to help here.

Thanks Sasha for your message and consideration.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: salleles on March 05, 2010, 04:56:37 AM
When you go against the big guns of evil, better have the guts to take the bullets-- for they will come.  it doesn't matter if your blood  spills, for as as it spills, it writes the word LOVE, and floods the dark plains to the very  highest turrets of the Dark Towers.  For every one of us dedicated to life and its wonders, against suffering and evil, who know what hell we've been thrust into here, every drop of blood we shed, every heartbeat in our breasts quickened by terror and fierce resolve to continue the struggle, for every one of us who stands against the appalling darkness, a galaxy of light is born.

This left me speechless. Thanks very much for your post Judyth.

And Sasha, I wish you all the strength today in Schagen.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Guardian on March 05, 2010, 05:40:03 AM

Yesterday I received the last email from Martha late in the afternoon: 

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:     Chapter 12 is going to be a couple days late
Date:     Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:07:40 -0800 (PST)
From:     Martha Rose Crow
To:     Laura Knight-Jadczyk


Judyth and I are under harsh attack. Our yahoo email accounts were hacked this weekend (mine longer than hers), her computer got hacked real bad last night (some people came over to help her and stayed up with her all night until it got fixed), she got a terrible death threat (one that not only describes how bloody she will be murdered, but he 'knows' where she lives), one of her big and famous supporters also got a terrible death threat, youtube took a video of her off minutes after it was posted and on and on...

I've got the flu real bad and I'm one of those picky, natural eaters. I've got a headache that won't quit and I don't get them. My leg has been swollen and on and on...

Listen Baby, you need to start putting the armor on!!! Although this Book is all on this side of the grid, we all know that demons are trying to stop this Book!!! Meditate, pray, cleanse your body and Soul, or do whatever you have to do to keep them off you and please warn the M.D. and Harrison. I'm worried about you guys. I AM SURE THE REASON WHY I WAS SENT BACK WAS TO HELP WITH THE BOOK. I guess it takes certain Alchemistic writers (Judyth and I) plus High Spiritual People (we are) to rewrite something as *Special* as Dr. L's *Great Gift* to the World! (That man is a *Saint* to me!!!) The Book is WHY the Cassiopaens came to SEE ME. I'm sure they exist (SMILE) BEcause I talked with them in the Future. I remember them clearly!!! Ask them about me. They'll tell you. *Please, BE EXTRA Careful!!!* ~Martha

That was at 4:07 CET. I responded with a couple of reassuring lines at 6:42, and it seems that just a short time later, she was dead. 

Ohhh Laura, I am soooo sorry!  If there is anything I can do for you or Martha's family, please let me know.

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Martha, of all people, is undoubtedly fully aware on that other side.  I can't do much to honor her life and commemorate her passing except to try to make sure that this project is completed, and that I will do.  And part of that includes making it public so that if anything happens to me, someone else will grab the torch and carry it on.

It appears someone is collecting her works here:
http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/12819-martha-rose-crow-just-passed-away-we-need-your-help.html
   

Thu  04 Mar 2010
   
Martha Rose Crow just passed away - we need your help
Tweet me!
Written by Roland Michel Tremblay   
Thursday, 04 March 2010 07:42

     
by Roland Michel Tremblay

Following the sudden death of Martha Rose Crow, the friends and family of Martha Rose Crow are mobilising to gather everything she has ever written under one roof, pending the acceptance of such a project by her closest friends and family. This will be her new voice from beyond the grave: http://www.martharosecrow.com

In the meantime I need your help. Please forward to me everything you can find that Martha ever wrote. Please send as many emails as you want or can to rm@themarginal.com

We are looking for articles, comments, URLs, and also particularly emails she would have written to you. We will delete what you wrote, but there may be in there a lot of important information Martha Rose Crow might have written to you.

Considering how important a life and message Martha Rose Crow had, and the impact she had on us all, and since many of her most important books are now left unfinished, we need every scrap of information she may have emailed you to help us understand exactly who she is and what her message was. All this to ensure the continuity of her work, just as she would have intended. I can assure you no one will make any money out of this, the message is more important, a message that could potentially change the world.

If you wish to help with such a project, please prove to us how deeply she trusted you (through her emails to you), and we will also trust you and let you participate in building the life’s work of a great woman.


 I’m sure many of you thought she was mad, I’m also sure you wondered: and what if she is not, what if she’s telling the truth? Well, we better make sure the whole truth is out there for everyone to read so they can decide for themselves. One thing we can agree on, you never met anyone like Martha Rose Crow before, there is only one of her. And God knows, even in death she might be more alive than any of us.


For now we are mobilising on this forum, please feel free to post your feelings:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=16529.0

To refresh yourself on what Martha Rose Crow was working on before she died, visit her numerous blogs:

http://www.blogger.com/profile/01077426832831131998

She was also on OpedNews and Atlantic Free Press:

http://www.opednews.com/author/author15624.html

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/writers/userprofile/marthacrow.html

Or just do a search on the Internet:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=martha+rose+crow&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=&redir_esc=&ei=W4aNS4eEIpj00gS08_nJCw

Martha Rose Crow’s message will live on!

Regards,

Roland Michel Tremblay

   
      
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on March 05, 2010, 07:20:58 AM
A little update:  Because a number of her friends were convinced that her death was not "natural," the Dutch police were contacted and asked to investigate.  I volunteered to speak with them.  After having an in-depth conversation with the officer who called here, I have the following to report:

1) The doctor who attended Martha says she died of a cerebral aneurysm, not a heart attack. 
2) There is no hard evidence that would persuade the prosecutor to request an autopsy or investigate further.

Now, considering the fact that Martha reported to me just before she died that she had a HEADACHE and she "never" had headaches, the cerebral aneurysm fits. 

That does not, of course, mean that it was not an engineered death, but if it was, it was engineered by those forces that can do this and leave no trace.  Any further agitation about "conspiracy" only looks a little nutty.

Martha was not concerned in any way about her health; she was not on the detox diet, she was not taking supplements, etc.  Therefore, it can be conjectured that wheat and dairy and heavy metals and so forth were abundantly present in her system.  This made her vulnerable.   I suspect that it is a lot harder to "engineer" death at a distance when there is nothing in the body that is frequency matched to the "waves".  So, this should be a lesson to us all.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: D on March 05, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
Martha was not concerned in any way about her health; she was not on the detox diet, she was not taking supplements, etc.  Therefore, it can be conjectured that wheat and dairy and heavy metals and so forth were abundantly present in her system.  This made her vulnerable.   I suspect that it is a lot harder to "engineer" death at a distance when there is nothing in the body that is frequency matched to the "waves".  So, this should be a lesson to us all.


Thanks for sharing this info Laura. This info gave me a huge pause and strength in will to battle 'cravings' of things I should not be eating and to keep up the healthy diet. This is indeed a huge lesson for us all.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Guardian on March 05, 2010, 02:36:17 PM
Now, considering the fact that Martha reported to me just before she died that she had a HEADACHE and she "never" had headaches, the cerebral aneurysm fits. 

That does not, of course, mean that it was not an engineered death, but if it was, it was engineered by those forces that can do this and leave no trace.  Any further agitation about "conspiracy" only looks a little nutty.

Yeah..."nutty"...right.  I remember when Stan Meyers invented a water fuel cell, and died of a "cerebral aneurysm" shortly thereafter.  No doubt there are others.  It makes me wonder, if we (any of us) actually begin to have an effect, what's to stop the same "forces" from popping us off one by one?

I want to say "be careful Laura, Judith, etc" but it sounds so lame  "Be careful not to let a blood vessel in your brain pop"   :(

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: wanderer33 on March 06, 2010, 03:08:30 AM
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"Today, we're going to discuss a most serious topic in sorcery," don Juan said abruptly, "and
we're going to begin by talking about the energy body."
He had described the energy body to me countless times, saying that it was a conglomerate of
energy fields, the mirror image of the conglomerate of energy fields that makes up the physical
body when it is seen as energy that flows in the universe. He had said that it was smaller, more
compact, and of heavier appearance than the luminous sphere of the physical body.
Don Juan had explained that the body and the energy body were two conglomerates of energy
fields compressed together by some strange agglutinizing force. He had emphasized no end that
the force that binds that group of energy fields together was, according to the sorcerers of ancient
Mexico, the most mysterious force in the universe. His personal estimation was that it was the
pure essence of the entire cosmos, the sum total of everything there is.
He had asserted that the physical body and the energy body were the only counterbalanced
energy configurations in our realm as human beings. He accepted, therefore, no other dualism
than the one between these two. The dualism between body and mind, spirit and flesh, he
considered to be a mere concatenation of the mind, emanating from it without any energetic
foundation. Don Juan had said that by means of discipline it is possible for anyone to bring the
energy body closer to the physical body. Normally, the distance between the two is enormous.
Once the energy body is within a certain range, which varies for each of us individually, anyone,
through discipline, can forge it into the exact replica of their physical body-that is to say, a threedimensional,
solid being. Hence the sorcerers' idea of the other or the double. By the same token,
through the same processes of discipline, anyone can forge their three-dimensional, solid physical
body to be a perfect replica of their energy body-that is to say, an ethereal charge of energy
invisible to the human eye, as all energy is....."What does it mean, that it's approaching me, don Juan?" I asked.
"It means that something is going to knock the daylights out of you," he said, smiling. "A
tremendous degree of control is going to come into your life, but not your control, the energy
body's control."
"Do you mean, don Juan, that some outside force will control me?" I asked.
"There are scores of outside forces controlling you at this moment," don Juan replied. "The
control that I am referring to is something outside the domain of language. It is your control and
at the same time it is not. It cannot be classified, but it can certainly be experienced. And above
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all, it can certainly be manipulated. Remember this: It can be manipulated, to your total
advantage, of course, which again, is not your advantage, but the energy body's advantage.
However, the energy body is you, so we could go on forever like dogs biting their own tails,
trying to describe this. Language is inadequate. All these experiences are beyond syntax."........."What is it, don Juan?" I asked. "I see fleeting black shadows all over the place."
"Ah, that's the universe at large," he said, "incommensurable, nonlinear, outside the realm of
syntax. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they
followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that
flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental."
He stopped talking and looked at me. His pauses were perfectly placed. He always stopped
talking when I was hanging by a thread.
"What did they discover, don Juan?" I asked.
"They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said, as clearly as he could. "We
have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives.
Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile,
helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it
demands that we don't do so."......"You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the
topic of topics," don Juan said. "I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to
you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic
fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico."
"Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?" I asked.
"There must be a logical explanation."
"There is an explanation," don Juan replied, "which is the simplest explanation in the world.
They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are
their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in
human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."......."I want to appeal to your analytical mind," don Juan said. Think for a moment, and tell me
how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the
stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe
that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social
mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure.
They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us
complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."
"But how can they do this, don Juan?" I asked, somehow angered further by what he was
saying. "Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"
"No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely
more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the
predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of
view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer
it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes
our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being
discovered any minute now.......He then made the most damaging statement he had made so far. He said that this narrow
fringe of awareness was the epicenter of self-reflection, where man was irremediably caught. By
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playing on our self-reflection, which is the only point of awareness left to us, the predators create
flares of awareness that they proceed to consume in a ruthless, predatory fashion. They give us
inane problems that force those flares of awareness to rise, and in this manner they keep us alive
in order for them to be fed with the energetic flare of our pseudoconcerns.......

"There's nothing that you and I can do about it," don Juan said in a grave, sad voice. "All we can do is discipline ourselves to the point where they will not touch us. How can you ask your fellow men to go through those rigors of discipline? They'll laugh and make fun of you, and the
more aggressive ones will beat the -shite- out of you. And not so much because they don't believe it.
Down in the depths of every human being, there's an ancestral, visceral knowledge about the
predators' existence."

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico," he said, "saw; the predator. They called it the flyer because it leaps through the air. It is
not a pretty sight. It is a big shadow, impenetrably dark, a black shadow that jumps through the
air. Then, it lands flat on the ground. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with
the idea of when it made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a
complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological
legends nowadays. And then everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man."


"What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and
organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is
destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat. There are no more dreams for
man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite,
conventional, imbecilic."

"The only alternative left for mankind," he continued, "is discipline. Discipline is the only
deterrent. But by discipline I don't mean harsh routines. I don't mean waking up every morning at
five-thirty and throwing cold water on yourself until you're blue. Sorcerers understand discipline
as the capacity to face with serenity odds that are not included in our expectations. For them,
discipline is an art: the art of facing infinity without flinching, not because they are strong and
tough but because they are filled with awe."


"Sorcerers say that discipline makes the glowing coat of awareness unpalatable to the flyer,"
don Juan said, scrutinizing my face as if to discover any signs of disbelief. "The result is that the
predators become bewildered. An inedible glowing coat of awareness is not part of their
cognition, I suppose. After being bewildered, they don't have any recourse other than refraining
from continuing their nefarious task.
"If the predators don't eat our glowing coat of awareness for a while," he went on, "it'll keep
on growing. Simplifying this matter to the extreme, I can say that sorcerers, by means of their
discipline, push the predators away long enough to allow their glowing coat of awareness to grow
beyond the level of the toes. Once it goes beyond the level of the toes, it grows back to its natural
size. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico used to say that the glowing coat of awareness is like a tree.
If it is not pruned, it grows to its natural size and volume. As awareness reaches levels higher
than the toes, tremendous maneuvers of perception become a matter of course.
"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times," don Juan continued, "was to burden the
flyers' mind with discipline. They found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence,
the foreign installation would flee, giving to any one of the practitioners involved in this
maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin. The foreign installation comes back, I
assure you, but not as strong, and a process begins in which the fleeing of the 'flyers' mind
becomes routine, until one day it flees permanently. A sad day indeed! That's the day when you
have to rely on your own devices, which are nearly zero. There's no one to tell you what to do.

"What-what-what do you mean," I heard myself say, "by taxing the flyers' mind?"
"Discipline taxes the foreign mind no end," he replied. "So, through their discipline, sorcerers
vanquish the foreign installation."

"The flyers' mind flees forever," he said, "when a sorcerer succeeds in grabbing on to the vibrating
force that holds us together as a conglomerate of energy fields. If a sorcerer maintains that pressure
long enough, the flyers' mind flees in defeat. And that's exactly what you are going to do: hold on to
the energy that binds you together."

"The flyers are an essential part of the universe," he went on, "and they must be taken as what
they really are-awesome, monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us.
"We are energetic probes created by the universe," he continued as if he were oblivious to my
presence, "and it's because we are possessors of energy that has awareness that we are the means
by which the universe becomes aware of itself. The flyers are the implacable challengers. They
cannot be taken as anything else. If we succeed in doing that, the universe allows us to continue."


"Don't try to disperse them with your hand," he uttered in a firm tone. "Intend them away. Set
up an energy barrier around you. Be silent, and from your silence the barrier will be constructed.
Nobody knows how this is done. It is one of those things that the old sorcerers called energetic
facts. Shut off your internal dialogue. That's all it takes.
From Castenada "The Active Side of Infinity".

It seems that aside from the predator in all of us, some of us have implants which respond to EM signals.
These may be used to kill.

Laura's exercise and breathing program helps defeat the predator.

It may be possible using clearing techniques that implants can be made dormant. Work needs to be done in this area.

Edit: fixed quotes
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Shijing on March 06, 2010, 03:36:56 AM
It may be possible using clearing techniques that implants can be made dormant. Work needs to be done in this area.

By "clearing techniques", do you mean some kind of ritual?  If so, that is probably not the way to go since rituals have been actively discouraged as things which constrict and are therefore counterproductive.  However, it sounds like the quote above may have some connection to mental blocking (http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Mental_Blocking).  Please let me know if I misunderstood what you meant, though.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Aragorn on March 06, 2010, 01:02:39 PM
If I've understood correctly the Cs take on this implant business is that they cannot be removed but they can be made ineffective by choosing not to feed "them", so doing the work on self is crucial here.

From session 941126:
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Q: (T) Do I have implants?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) These implants are what they use to control my emotions and
amplify them so that they can feed off of them?
A: Not control, influence.
Q: (T) No, not to control; influence. But when, say, I get angry, then
I'm angry for a short time but then I'm angry for a long time because
they have used this technology to amplify and extend this; is this
what they do?
A: Yes. Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers.
Q: (T) Can I feed back through their equipment what I choose?
A: Not necessary.
Q: (T) In other words, if I get angry and realize that I am being more
angry than I should be, and I change that to something positive, and
feed that back to them while they have their amplifiers wide open,
will that affect them? Sour their milk, so to speak?
A: Now you are "fighting fire with fire."
Q: (T) Well, is that something that we are supposed to be doing?
A: Open. But what does phrase imply?
Q: (L) If you feed it back at them, in other words, what they are
saying is, I think, when you feel yourself getting angry, the only way
to stop the whole thing is to stop being angry and be happy or at
peace. When you are happy and at peace there is not in you the
desire to send anything back.
A: Bingo.
Q: (J) Redirect the energy into something positive. (F) You can't fight
fire with fire. (LM) Well, actually you can in reality. (T) What I am
getting at is, is it possible to do that, to change the emotional state to
something more positive than what they are expecting and feed that
back to them. Is that a possibility?
A: Why.
Q: (T) Just to give them a taste of their own for a change. (J) Do you
want to antagonize them? You are still feeding them your energy. (L)
The only change you could really have would be the opposite
emotion which would be peace and if you are truly feeling peace...
A: 4th density STSers feed off negative energy.
Q: (J) So, give them nothing. (T) But what I am thinking about is the
energy... I have a natural... They are feeding off negative energy.
They put something in me, some technological thing, because they
come into 3rd density to mess with us...
A: Yes.
Q: (T) ...that will amplify this for them. Make it even stronger.
A: Analogy follows: How effective is a light socket without a plug in
it?
Q: (T) Well, how effective is a light socket without a socket in it... I'm
trying to learn here so you guys give me some latitude.
A: What?
Q: (T) If you take a light socket and pull the socket... pull the plug on
the light socket you no longer have light. (L) Well, the Lizzies are the
light bulb and you are the power source so you just pull out their
plug. (J) Unplug yourself. (T) Am I the socket?
A: How effective is a motor that is never turned on?
Q: (J) Do not be their source. If they feed off negative energy, starve
them.
A: Implants are ineffective if not used.

Q: (J) The power source has to be on for the implant to work for
them to get the juice and the power is negative thoughts and
emotions. (T) But I am still a 3rd density being. I have all the
emotions of a 3rd density being, the whole gamut, and that is part of
what makes me a 3rd density being. Therefore I can't turn one
emotion off without upsetting the balance of the other emotions,
emotions are almost an analogy to the light and the dark.
A: No.
Q: (T) I have positive emotions and I have negative emotions; they
both make up who I am.
A: If you choose, you may have only positive emotions.
Q: (T) Now, if I have only positive emotions, which is a nice thing to
have and I'd like to have that, what does that do to the sensor
equipment of the Lizzies?
A: Cancels them.
Q: (T) So they are tuned to negative frequencies?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Having positive feelings cuts off the implants. If I cut off the
sensors by having positive feelings, what will the Lizards do?
A: Go elsewhere.

Q: (L) Am I correct in my thought that when you first start turning this
off that they may increase their efforts for a period and then finally
they realize that you are really in charge here and then they go
away?
A: Exactly.
Q: (L) So, when you first get a clue and you start getting a grip on
your emotions and dealing with everything that happens to you with
acceptance and knowledge that all is a manifestation of your own
creation and for your ultimate good, for a period of time they may try
ten times harder to get you back as a food source, but then once
they realize they can't, then they do finally let loose?
A: You and F*** are experiencing this right now.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: jane on March 06, 2010, 08:18:24 PM
... doing the work on self is crucial here.
From session 941126:
Quote
...
Q: (T) These implants are what they use to control my emotions and
amplify them so that they can feed off of them?
A: Not control, influence.
...
Q: (J) Do not be their source. If they feed off negative energy, starve
them.
A: Implants are ineffective if not used. [/b]
...
A: If you choose, you may have only positive emotions.
Q: (T) Now, if I have only positive emotions, which is a nice thing to
have and I'd like to have that, what does that do to the sensor
equipment of the Lizzies?
A: Cancels them.
Q: (T) So they are tuned to negative frequencies?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Having positive feelings cuts off the implants. If I cut off the
sensors by having positive feelings, what will the Lizards do?
A: Go elsewhere.

...
Q: (L) So, when you first get a clue and you start getting a grip on
your emotions and dealing with everything that happens to you with
acceptance and knowledge that all is a manifestation of your own
creation and for your ultimate good, for a period of time they may try
ten times harder to get you back as a food source, but then once
they realize they can't, then they do finally let loose?

This is an important tool to work with. Thank you for the quote!

It is no coincidence, that Martha death and what happened mentioned in the last 22/02/2010 C´s session is in the same period. The levels of war is rising, it is a fact. I sense this in my life since months. Martha Rose Crows death has a even more powerful impact on my determination concerning doing the work.

I do have implants right now. More or less I know when they were implanted and why. I know I am attacked and I know it is dangerous. I am determined to collect everything I can about the blind spots. And the tools to deal with these attacks effectively. Is there a thread here dealing with these issues specifically?
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mrs. Peel on March 07, 2010, 04:41:51 AM

I do have implants right now. More or less I know when they were implanted and why. I know I am attacked and I know it is dangerous.

Hi, could you explain this a bit more?
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Jakesully on March 07, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
Every time the Consortium is forced to act overtly, it causes a blowback effect.

Everyone who is committed to their defeat and to the freedom of mankind only becomes more emboldened and more knowledgeable as to the dangers of spreading the truth about Psychopathy and Ponerology, and thus more effective at spreading the truth.

Reading about Martha Rose Crow's death has certainly shocked me out of my complacency.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: wanderer33 on March 07, 2010, 06:14:07 AM
Thanks Aragorn.

The quote from the Cs session indicates that the way to block or disarm the implants is very similar to the Don Juan advice to Castenada.
That does make it easier in my view and it shows how important knowledge is in this process.

In regard to the death of Martha, whether it is the case that there was intentional manipulation of her processes, the fact that enough fear was generated due to the
death threats and hacking, therefore it remains the case that the result was the same regardless of the method. The intention doesn't change whatever the case.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anart on March 07, 2010, 06:16:05 AM
Every time the Consortium is forced to act overtly, it causes a blowback effect.

Everyone who is committed to their defeat and to the freedom of mankind only becomes more emboldened and more knowledgeable as to the dangers of spreading the truth about Psychopathy and Ponerology, and thus more effective at spreading the truth.

Reading about Martha Rose Crow's death has certainly shocked me out of my complacency.

As Faust said, there is a power "that intends to do evil, and constantly does good".    I think the key to that equation is human consciousness and its ability to transmute one to the other.  Just my take, though...
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: ReBecca.S on March 08, 2010, 03:10:07 AM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: jane on March 08, 2010, 11:47:54 AM

I do have implants right now. More or less I know when they were implanted and why. I know I am attacked and I know it is dangerous.

Hi, could you explain this a bit more?

I want ask here some questions for general discussion, before going into detail on what happened/happenes to me, that makes me assume, that I am under attack and that I have implants.

1. I want to find out, how to have more certainty about these assumptions as I do not have a robust feedback group around me. Would it be helpful to start collecting data on this subject, like a detailed "checklist", like eg the ultramind quiz, but focussed on etheric attacks and implants? 

2. Should this be discussed in another (new) thread? I am new to this forum... (Is this a question for the C.´s?)

3. Could knowledge also be collected about the subject of effective protection methods (like the above, eg. Castaneda, detoxification, etc...) and put in one place to read, like a manual? What are the criteria for effectivity here? Or is this idea not as helpful, as everyone has to do his own work? Or even  dangerous or counterproductive on other reasons...

I just know, that I have to go on investigating this subject in depth.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on March 08, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....


It's actually not a bad idea and maybe we'll do it for FOTCM... get a group life plan that pays out to FOTCM if anything happens to any of its members. If they want to harm people for being in FOTCM, or harm FOTCM, that would make it totally backfire.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on March 08, 2010, 12:45:01 PM
I just know, that I have to go on investigating this subject in depth.

Have you read the entire Wave series?  And the Adventures Series?
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: forge on March 08, 2010, 04:46:19 PM
Now, considering the fact that Martha reported to me just before she died that she had a HEADACHE and she "never" had headaches, the cerebral aneurysm fits.  

That headache must have been excruciating pain. My mother was reportedly crying, whimpering when the tiny 'spider' blood vessel popped in her brain. She became immediately dizzy, nauseous, weak, (later in the hospital had almost fatal fever, which wreaked havoc, then on intensive 24 then 72 hour risk of further damage). Her house doctor misdiagnosed her, prescribing only mild painkillers and left, leaving her at home only to get much worse. When finally she got to hospital long hours later, the brain surgeons were very angry, because she could have been saved with a quick proper diagnosis.

She survived with left side paralysis. Note, this was a tiny vessel, with a rupture of lesser output, still tissue was inundated with cells in affected areas liquified by the brain's life saving detox-function. The doctors told us thinness of vessel walls must have been genetic.

Common sense suggests in Martha's case the vessel must have been much bigger and the rupture as well, suddenly maybe no oxygen for the cells causing brain shock. There must have been simply no time to even 1. call a doctor[+time] 2. diagnose properly[+time] 3. get her to hospital[+time] 4. prepare operation[+time] or help her in any way. No time. This was way too fast.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: jane on March 08, 2010, 06:14:07 PM
I just know, that I have to go on investigating this subject in depth.

Have you read the entire Wave series?  And the Adventures Series?

With both series I am about half way through. I have read "Secret History". I am reading "In search of the Miraculous" now. I got to know your work and the sites last summer. I am very grateful for that. It is what keeps me stay focused.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: findit on March 08, 2010, 06:52:43 PM
Until I read this thread I had never heard of Martha or Judyth and it's an amazing story.  The lengths forces will go to try and suppress information especially in this day and age are utterly amazing.  Martha gave her life for telling the truth, but it will not be in vain because those of us that have read this will have even more resolve to move forward.  Thank you Martha and Judyth!
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Viv on March 08, 2010, 11:08:32 PM
It's so sad to hear about the death of Martha. She is another war casualty.

I'm not familiar with her work, but she sounds like an interesting and talented person.

My condolences to her friends and family.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nienna on March 09, 2010, 12:56:12 AM
I just know, that I have to go on investigating this subject in depth.

Have you read the entire Wave series?  And the Adventures Series?

With both series I am about half way through. I have read "Secret History". I am reading "In search of the Miraculous" now. I got to know your work and the sites last summer. I am very grateful for that. It is what keeps me stay focused.

I think that Laura was suggesting that you will find the answers to your questions in the Wave Series (http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm) and the Adventures Series (http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventureindex.htm).  They are jam-packed with information.  :)
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Iron on March 09, 2010, 05:34:20 AM
Every time the signs become more louder, and shake more people up.
The consortium is diggin their own grave... the problem is the damage they will do until they are stopped.

My condolences to the family and close friends of her.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Turgon on March 09, 2010, 06:53:38 AM
RIP Martha, my condolences to your family and to you Judith, for losing your best friend and having to continue on without her in your life. 

I'm deeply honoured to the two of you for attempting to make Political Ponerology more readable.  I had recently read the brief synopsis posted on SOTT in regards to how the book came into being and it amazed me.  So much trouble and efforts and lost lives in Europe, only to have Mr. L have to rewrite all from memory in regards to what he learned.  And then nearing the end of his life, send it to the editors of SOTT to have it published.  And now one of the two people that were working on a newly updated version dies ...

We must all endeavour and not let these fruits go in vain.  Rededicate ourselves, for every life that the PTB attempt to take from us, only strengthen's our resolve and demeanour, until one day all of it slips through their grasp, as their greed and insatiable hunger become their undoing. 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Woodsman on March 09, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....


It's actually not a bad idea and maybe we'll do it for FOTCM... get a group life plan that pays out to FOTCM if anything happens to any of its members. If they want to harm people for being in FOTCM, or harm FOTCM, that would make it totally backfire.

Hm.  Is there anybody who knows the ins and outs of having life insurance policies pay to a group in another country?  Things have been heating up over here, (I've been in two minor but unhappy car accidents in as many months on top of numerous other jolts and jabs and such), and I think it might be high time to investigate this more seriously.  I can't think of anybody who would be able to put money to more immediate and vital use than the SOTT team.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: truth seeker on March 09, 2010, 10:10:20 AM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....


It's actually not a bad idea and maybe we'll do it for FOTCM... get a group life plan that pays out to FOTCM if anything happens to any of its members. If they want to harm people for being in FOTCM, or harm FOTCM, that would make it totally backfire.

Hm.  Is there anybody who knows the ins and outs of having life insurance policies pay to a group in another country?  Things have been heating up over here, (I've been in two minor but unhappy car accidents in as many months on top of numerous other jolts and jabs and such), and I think it might be high time to investigate this more seriously.  I can't think of anybody who would be able to put money to more immediate and vital use than the SOTT team.

While getting an insurance policy may indeed cause the antics of STS to backfire, the best protection from STS is knowledge and awareness. You may want to consider what particular state of mind you were in when these accidents were occurring (were you distracted?). What also helps is doing everything you can (diet, EE, acquiring knowledge) to lower the odds of STS tactics.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: JEEP on March 09, 2010, 01:12:27 PM
I'm just now getting caught up with the various threads. I read Martha's article on Sott.net before I read this thread. It was one among many I have been sending out to inform those who don't know. I certainly did not know Martha or her work until now. I was jolted not only by the circumstances of Martha's death, but her connection to Laura and Judyth and Judyth's incredible story as well. My heart goes out to all of you, your friends, and your families. You are the bravest of the brave, facing grave peril on behalf of all humanity. We are definitely engaged in a great battle, and like all such, there will be casualties. Our fallen comrades, though down, are certainly not out. They are standing strong in 5D, continuing to add their energies to the cause - the revelation of TRUTH and the destruction of lies! We honor them and all that they have given and sacrificed. And to those nefarious forces who continue to throw everything they have at us, know that WE WILL NOT YIELD! The Light WILL triumph over the dark! Our efforts will only multiply the more adversity you send our way!

Again, my sympathies to those who had the privilege to know and work with Martha Rose Crow.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nathan on March 09, 2010, 02:09:45 PM
I'm very saddened to hear of Martha's passing. She sounded wonderfully resilient and focused; and the project she was working on seems exciting to say the least. A Ponerology for Dummies is exactly what is needed for Political Ponerology to reach an audience beyond the most persistent of truth seeking readers. Sadly, a fellow truth seeker has fallen in the process.

The idea of releasing what is complete so far might alleviate any attack, but I personally like the idea of not releasing something until it is complete. Also, releasing what is complete while finishing the rest could possibly invite an attack designed to halt release of the rest of the chapters. So maybe it would be wise to just wait that little bit longer until it is 100 percent complete.

A deeply sincere thank-you to Martha and Judith for their dedication and drive.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Yossarian on March 12, 2010, 03:54:50 AM
Just wanted to say that I was and am very saddened by the news of Martha's death.  I was very suspicious as soon as I saw Laura's note on SOTT, but it took me a while to find this thread.  After all revealed in this thread, and after Pepperfritz, it's pretty obvious what happened, isn't it?  I just finished Judyth's interviews linked in this thread.  Fascinating!  Judyth is obviously a woman of courage and strength, just as Martha is.  It took a lot of guts to reveal what she did.  What better endorsement than the fact her story has been buried!  One only has to study what is known about Lee Harvey Oswald and the Military Industrial Espionage Complex to know that there was much much more going on with him than the official cover story.  Judyth's story fills in quite a few blanks. 

Now, her ongoing work that Judyth's done with Martha will fill in a lot more blanks for so many people!  Really, it's about the path's trying to exterminate the normies and hypothesized hyperdimensional realities.  That's the basic story.  If you can grok this stuff, life and death starts making a lot more sense. 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: mocachapeau on March 12, 2010, 05:19:04 AM
My condolences to Martha's family.  Things are getting uglier every day.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Woodsman on March 15, 2010, 08:55:22 AM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....


It's actually not a bad idea and maybe we'll do it for FOTCM... get a group life plan that pays out to FOTCM if anything happens to any of its members. If they want to harm people for being in FOTCM, or harm FOTCM, that would make it totally backfire.

Hm.  Is there anybody who knows the ins and outs of having life insurance policies pay to a group in another country?  Things have been heating up over here, (I've been in two minor but unhappy car accidents in as many months on top of numerous other jolts and jabs and such), and I think it might be high time to investigate this more seriously.  I can't think of anybody who would be able to put money to more immediate and vital use than the SOTT team.

While getting an insurance policy may indeed cause the antics of STS to backfire, the best protection from STS is knowledge and awareness. You may want to consider what particular state of mind you were in when these accidents were occurring (were you distracted?). What also helps is doing everything you can (diet, EE, acquiring knowledge) to lower the odds of STS tactics.

Distracted?  Yes, in one instance; I was not clear in my thinking, my head was fuzzy, possibly due to low blood sugar, (though I had specifically eaten recently to make sure this wouldn't be a problem).  I didn't think I was that fuzzy until I realized I was.  It took me by surprise.  If it weren't for the weather conditions, (unfamiliar road with ditches disguised by heavy snow) it would have been okay, but my head was distorted at the time.

In the other incident, I was a passenger in a different car.  The driver seemed to be clear and in control, but the car started fishtailing on a stretch of bad snow.  You're supposed to drive into the fishtail, not out of it as impulse cries, but the driver followed impulse.  I could easily have made the same mistake; I've only ever fishtailed once before, years ago, and even though I knew you're not supposed to slam on the breaks and steer away from the direction the car suddenly wants to veer, the impulse was too strong for me at the time.  No harm was done in my case; the car corrected itself and I regained control.  I think as a result of that, I might have a chance today of getting it right if it happened again, but it's hard to say.  Either way, the driver in this case lost control, spun the car around and put us into a ditch.  It was pretty amazing, since we were going well under the speed limit.  Again, no injuries, but rattling.)

Lately I've been working to combat a strong feeling of depression and anxiety and it has been more difficult to work and to take accurate readings of reality; it's easy to get a bit morbidly paranoid.  I've combated this by altering my diet to match my blood type, getting back into yoga and I'm making arrangements to move out of my toxic situation with a lunatic landlord, but I still need to correct my sleeping patterns.  Being a night-owl in the past has often left me feeling tired when I need to do things during the day, but I'd always been reliably up-beat and happy for the most part.  That's changed.  I've never felt quite like this before, for so long, so it's somewhat new to me.  It's good that things are warming up outdoors.  I'll be able to start cycling again soon.  Things are getting better, but it has been a very difficult winter, easily the worst in my memory in terms of foul moods and depression.

Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Woodsman on March 16, 2010, 09:30:41 AM
Update. . .

Earlier this evening, my girlfriend said she wanted to leave my apartment because it felt yucky.

I agreed with her.  I wanted to get out too.  Just being there made my heart ache with negative feelings; anxiety, fear, pain.  Heartbreak.  After dealing with this for a few weeks now, and after observing things, it was becoming increasingly clear that those feelings weren't coming from either of us.  We had just spent an enjoyable hour at the local cafe talking with some friends of ours.  We were in excellent spirits when we got back to my place, and the foul mood here descended upon us like a fog.  I should note that we have a really wonderful relationship; its very supportive, we never fight, we each brighten up around the other.  But lately we've been avoiding my apartment.  We'll spend time in hers or do lots of things outdoors or around town.

This was getting ridiculous.  I couldn't justify running away from my own apartment just to avoid feeling bad.  I'm moving into a new place, but not for another few weeks.

Then while discussing this, I remembered a similar episode which had happened years before in a different time and place; a room mate of mine had been going through a very hard time and was holed up in her apartment next to mine.  That evening I spent hours tossing and turning, feeling just terrible, practically suicidal, filled with horrible angst.  Then it struck me that, "Hold on.  I have no reason to be feeling like this!  My life is pretty great right now.  Is it possible that I'm picking up on somebody else's feelings?"

I'd been doing a lot of meditation with a mind to opening myself up to feel other's emotions, and it struck me like a brick that maybe it was working.  It seemed immediately obvious that if such negative feelings were coming from anybody, then the most likely source was my room mate.  So I left the house in the middle of the night and went for a long walk to get away from the source of all that anxiety, (I am ashamed to admit that I didn't think to knock on her door and ask if I could help her.  I could barely manage my own head; I just wanted to run.)  Getting out and walking helped somewhat, but in the end, I ended up coming home praying to Christ, actually, (I'd never done that before; I'd always had a disdain for organized religion, but the feelings were just SO bad and I'd been reading the C's work wherein they described Christ in a non-religious sense; simply as a master who made himself available to anybody who asked in times of need.)  Well, I thought my heart was going to collapse under the strain of so much anxiety; I'd been in need such as I'd not experienced before so I grasped for the only thing which I could think of in the moment, and that was Christ.  The effect of prayer was instantaneous.  Within seconds, a calm descended and I let out a long breath.  If I'd not read up properly on the C's and Laura's materials, I'd probably have joined up at the nearest church the next day, but I felt I had a reasonable grasp on the true nature of the situation.  My roommate was the one who really needed help though, and with some effort and reaching out, she was in time able to pull herself together.  Those were some very interesting times.  I learned a lot back then.

Anyway, so return to now.  All of these memories and others came back, so I tried a technique I'd later learned and which I not used in a long time.  I turned off the computer because it was a distraction, (its humming an buzzing were like a cage), and I drew in through several deep breaths a whole lot of ambient energy into my center, (into my belly), collecting as much energy as I could, (or at least, that's what I intended and visualized; I've never been able to see energy.).  But I could really feel it.  Then with my spine and body tingling, I blew it outward in a big ball.  I expanded an energy bubble with the intention of pushing/clearing out the horrible anxiety vibe which had been filling my apartment.  I extended the bubble all around me so that my whole apartment flooded with my 'flavor' of energy.

My girlfriend caught her breath.  "Wow.  I felt a wave pass through me when you did that!  I could almost SEE whatever you just did.  Wow!"  (My girlfriend and I don't talk much about this kind of thing.  The subject has come up maybe twice in the year I've known her.  For some reason, unlike those times long ago when I was studying this stuff directly, it just doesn't seem appropriate to talk about it openly anymore.  We have a lot of friends who are a little weirded out by such ideas, and so we just don't go there.  Perhaps that should change, between us at least.)

Anyway, it now felt like Summertime in my apartment!  The horrible feelings were gone.  It was really amazing!

I think now that it was simply that I'd been not taking care of myself, been allowing myself to feel really bad and scared for a number of reasons, and even when I wasn't feeling anxious in the moment, the energy of those feelings lingered for days, affecting me and anybody who visited.  Emotions seem to be like weather patterns or emanations which people broadcast and leave behind them.  -Or perhaps it had indeed partly been coming from somewhere else; maybe my landlord who lives below me was feeling bad and I was picking up on that.  Either way, when I'd completed the process, all of the negative feelings had dispersed and everything felt right and wonderful and healthy again.

My girlfriend and I were suddenly, like a switch had been flipped, feeling happy and bright and clear.  We were joking and laughing together, and were amazed that only minutes earlier, we'd been feeling heartsick.  I walked her home and came back to finish the job.  I used the same energy expanding bubble technique through all the corners of the apartment, having read somewhere that energy collects in corners of rooms, (geometric shapes, like the insides of cube corners), and now things feel right again.  It felt, actually, a lot like the apartment and workout space of a Kung Fu teacher I'd once trained under.  (Not a lot of combat training for me, though.  My focus was primarily on the energy awareness stuff.  I have a great distaste for causing pain.)  When I was done, I felt exhausted, but in a good way; like coming home and lying down after a day of skiing.

The funny thing is that I'd let that part of my life slip as I focused on regular work and the fact that I needed to pay bills.  I'd stopped meditating, stopped eating well, became overwhelmed with life and draining people around me.  I had generally descended into 3D quite deeply without really paying attention.  I didn't really associate my crumbling psyche and horrid moods with this regression until it came to a head with Martha Rose Crow's untimely departure.  That hit me really hard.

When I am feeling cornered and frustrated like I was, perhaps because there's more adrenaline or immediacy involved, hidden or forgotten abilities rise to the surface.  Thank goodness!  It was getting pretty grim around here.

Okay.  That's a fair bit off topic and I don't want to be inappropriate in talking about myself and my stuff too much, but this has been a process I went through over the last few weeks and I thought it might be useful to share.  These energy techniques are available to anybody, I believe.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: 3D Student on April 09, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
I had missed this thread when it first came up, and I heard about it in the March session. I just finished watching the JFK History Channel documentary that was banned.

I give my condolences to Martha, Judyth, and Laura and their family and friends. I must say that it is very brave to do these things for a better world. I hope that the Ponerology book will be a success for the betterment of society.

Martha seemed like a wonderful person. She is a part of our team, which will continue to work to make this a better place. Thank you for sharing Laura and Judyth.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mac on April 09, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
Any progress to report for "Ponerology for Dummies"? Possible publication date?

Mac
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mona on April 12, 2010, 01:00:14 AM
I really hate this is happening to such brave intelligent loving people.

After Pepperfritz died, I remembered reading in the Wave that Laura had taken insurance policy out on herself and said if anyone does anything to me, this money is going to this cause....
Do you think that might be a good idea for the sott writers as a kind of protection to deter and/or fight back?
Just a thought. I hope it's not insensitive....


It's actually not a bad idea and maybe we'll do it for FOTCM... get a group life plan that pays out to FOTCM if anything happens to any of its members. If they want to harm people for being in FOTCM, or harm FOTCM, that would make it totally backfire.

Hm.  Is there anybody who knows the ins and outs of having life insurance policies pay to a group in another country?  Things have been heating up over here, (I've been in two minor but unhappy car accidents in as many months on top of numerous other jolts and jabs and such), and I think it might be high time to investigate this more seriously.  I can't think of anybody who would be able to put money to more immediate and vital use than the SOTT team.

While getting an insurance policy may indeed cause the antics of STS to backfire, the best protection from STS is knowledge and awareness. You may want to consider what particular state of mind you were in when these accidents were occurring (were you distracted?). What also helps is doing everything you can (diet, EE, acquiring knowledge) to lower the odds of STS tactics.

Are you serious? I had no idea that Laura has got a life insurance? After all she has done for this world I dont think the CC's would have let harm come her way. I mean they have to protect her. Don't they? I don't know what to think anymore, it seems that even knowledge does not seem to protect in some situations. I think I will just sit here for a while and think about this in silence. There are too many things going through my mind right now. :cry:


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Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Joe on April 12, 2010, 01:14:23 AM
Are you serious? I had no idea that Laura has got a life insurance? After all she has done for this world I dont think the CC's would have let harm come her way. I mean they have to protect her. Don't they? I don't know what to think anymore, it seems that even knowledge does not seem to protect in some situations. I think I will just sit here for a while and think about this in silence. There are too many things going through my mind right now. :cry:


Hi Mona, it seems to me that the idea of taking out life insurance was an example of knowledge protecting. Knowledge that attack can happen, and knowledge about the need to take preventative measures, and knowledge about which measures are best to take. All of this was acting in Laura when she took that decision way back then.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Nathan on April 12, 2010, 02:36:13 AM
Any progress to report for "Ponerology for Dummies"? Possible publication date?

Mac

Or perhaps an estimate of which quarter? Third quarter, or fourth quarter of 2010, for example. I'm hoping sooner :P
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: anart on April 12, 2010, 04:26:24 AM

Are you serious? I had no idea that Laura has got a life insurance? After all she has done for this world I dont think the CC's would have let harm come her way. I mean they have to protect her. Don't they?

Living in 3D is hazardous to your health.   ;)

With that said, Perceval explains the general idea. 
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mona on April 13, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
Anart and Perceval,
So does it mean that by taking a life insurance we can protect ourselves by detering the STS from attacking us? Or does that mean that Laura's work will be protected by keeping it going if something happened to her, but they can still attack her/us still physically and even in some cases make us check out into the 5D? If that is the case that a life insurance can actually protect someone's life from STS attacks, then I would even consider buying a life insurance for my mom.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Shijing on April 13, 2010, 07:05:26 AM
Hi Mona --

So does it mean that by taking a life insurance we can protect ourselves by detering the STS from attacking us?

No, I don't think that's what was being described. 

Or does that mean that Laura's work will be protected by keeping it going if something happened to her, but they can still attack her/us still physically and even in some cases make us check out into the 5D?

Yes, that's closer.

If that is the case that a life insurance can actually protect someone's life from STS attacks, then I would even consider buying a life insurance for my mom.

If only that were the case -- imagine how the STS-insurance market would take off  ;)
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on April 13, 2010, 09:26:17 AM
Anart and Perceval,
So does it mean that by taking a life insurance we can protect ourselves by detering the STS from attacking us? Or does that mean that Laura's work will be protected by keeping it going if something happened to her, but they can still attack her/us still physically and even in some cases make us check out into the 5D? If that is the case that a life insurance can actually protect someone's life from STS attacks, then I would even consider buying a life insurance for my mom.

Let me try to explain my reasoning.

Back when we were still in the US, there was a whole lot of attack going on against me and Ark that included physical stuff.  I've chronicled it elsewhere, but briefly it included the stalking of our children even via vehicle, causing two auto accidents and one child was lucky to survive.  Then,  the poisoning of our daughter, the dead cat on the lawn, the poisoning of our dog (who died) and so on.  We received regular death threats and with all this going on, I took it serious.  I was aware that they very likely would not go after ME because, for some reason, it seems that they want to keep me going but barely functional.  They went after my children.  So, what I did was insure every one of my children to the max and make it clear that if anything happened to any of them, every cent of that money would go into the "work", into exposing psychopathy, etc.   Ark and I were insured for enough to pay off our debts and pay for a decent funeral, but not more than that.  That's just practical when you have children and don't want to leave them with a burden.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: adam7117 on April 13, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Laura
So, what I did was insure every one of my children to the max and make it clear that if anything happened to any of them, every cent of that money would go into the "work", into exposing psychopathy, etc. Ark and I were insured for enough to pay off our debts and pay for a decent funeral, but not more than that. That's just practical when you have children and don't want to leave them with a burden.

Death insurance, hey...?

That gives me an idea since I have also been pounded with paranoid thoughts of own accidental death. It turns out that I have such insurance through the superannuation fund. It's not much but certainly enough to pay for a few things. I have no beneficiaries since I can't think of anyone who wouldn't either mis-spend it or cause more dramas through greed. Such are the joys of growing up in a narcissistic family.

So. Do you accept such benefits as donation? I'd much rather you had the money and diverted it to a cause that helps others. You could add a new building to house more people, for example.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Laura on April 13, 2010, 12:33:22 PM
Death insurance, hey...?

That gives me an idea since I have also been pounded with paranoid thoughts of own accidental death. It turns out that I have such insurance through the superannuation fund. It's not much but certainly enough to pay for a few things. I have no beneficiaries since I can't think of anyone who wouldn't either mis-spend it or cause more dramas through greed. Such are the joys of growing up in a narcissistic family.

So. Do you accept such benefits as donation? I'd much rather you had the money and diverted it to a cause that helps others. You could add a new building to house more people, for example.

As a rule, I hate the whole insurance racket because that is what it is: a racket.  There you are, betting that you are gonna die and your beneficiaries will get a lot of money (double indemnity if you go out in a blaze of glory, too!), and the insurance company is betting that you are gonna live... and you are hoping that THEY win!!! 

How sick is that?

But anyway, yeah, I think that insurance policies that benefit the work might be just the ticket to keep the "forces" off your back.  It's just a theory, mind you, but that's what I did and sure enough, the attacks on the kids backed off. (Knock wood and all that.)

I would not like to receive money because a member died, but if I did, I'd sure use it to further the exposure of all that is wrong on this planet - which is what we work on all the time anyway.  We've got a dozen projects going on as we speak which need manpower, preferably forum members/FOTCM members, but it would sure be nice to be able to pay them for their time so we could have a real functional organization devoted to full time activities.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Mona on April 14, 2010, 03:21:28 AM
But anyway, yeah, I think that insurance policies that benefit the work might be just the ticket to keep the "forces" off your back.  It's just a theory, mind you, but that's what I did and sure enough, the attacks on the kids backed off. (Knock wood and all that.)

I would not like to receive money because a member died, but if I did, I'd sure use it to further the exposure of all that is wrong on this planet - which is what we work on all the time anyway.  We've got a dozen projects going on as we speak which need manpower, preferably forum members/FOTCM members, but it would sure be nice to be able to pay them for their time so we could have a real functional organization devoted to full time activities.

Thanks for the explanation Laura, that really makes sense now. I have always disliked insurance companies of any kind, but looking at it from your point of view it would not be a bad idea to get those that we love most insured and have the money donated to this cause. You see, Laura, you mentioned that there were many times when you wanted to quit your important work. There are too many  people believing in you. The quitting option is just out of the question. And that is my final answer.  :D


Moderator's edit: fixed quote.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Tykes on April 14, 2010, 09:26:53 AM

I would not like to receive money because a member died, but if I did, I'd sure use it to further the exposure of all that is wrong on this planet - which is what we work on all the time anyway.  We've got a dozen projects going on as we speak which need manpower, preferably forum members/FOTCM members, but it would sure be nice to be able to pay them for their time so we could have a real functional organization devoted to full time activities.

One more time i´m amazed though i know i shouldn´t about your generosity. It really would be fantastic to have a real organization as you call it, and i am sure that for several people would be more than fair to receive payments, but for others (like me) it would  be shameful to take something when this wonderful project has gave us so much.


Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: DickMcManus on November 22, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
And CIA funded research into using a cancer virus as a bio-weapon to kill Castro.
This is another example of people scheduled to testify before a grand jury or Congress dying suddenly at a young age of a heart attack, was in the case of Mary Crow, who was speaking out about the JFK assassination.
See
The CIA plotted to kill JFK a recap with additional facts part 3
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHistory/message/437

SOME UNKNOWN HISTORY OF THE U.S.
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHistory/messages

Dick McManus for Congress, D-WA, 1st or 2nd CD
Democrat, Everett, WA
Chief Warrant Officer/counterintelligence special agent, US Army, retired.

_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DickMcManusforCongress/

I request your endorsement, and it doesn’t matter where you live.
Title: Re: The Death of Martha Rose Crow
Post by: Renaissance on November 22, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
Dick McManus for Congress, D-WA, 1st or 2nd CD
Democrat, Everett, WA
Chief Warrant Officer/counterintelligence special agent, US Army, retired.

_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DickMcManusforCongress/

I request your endorsement, and it doesn’t matter where you live.


This thread is based on a friend of the forum who had died suddenly. Did you read it? It felt pretty awful to see your request for some political endorsement here.