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alkhemst:

--- Quote from: SeekinTruth on April 28, 2015, 01:18:43 PM ---I'm wondering if the pyramid of power applies more to the hyperdimensional aspect than the human, 3D world. In the ultimate struggle for STS dominant position, going into the higher densities, it may be very accurate to symbolize it as a pyramid, but on the human level, the pyramid is never "perfect", so to speak. And in the overall scheme of things, the pyramid interpenetrates the different densities, so down here in 3D, we are so far away from the apex, that there's plenty more room for jostling for position in the STS hierarchy than as you go up into the higher densities....

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From the point of view that higher densities can look down and go down to lower ones but lower ones can't do the same - cant go up, there's a structure for that in place I guess. I reckon the pyramid structure that symbolises a model for how power works is relevant here on our 3d world too. But its relevance has more to do with appearance than reality I feel. For example, while it appears to us we are locked into an inescapable framework that dictates the way our lives are run controlled by a powerful few, we go along with it. We give it the reality - sort of like that parable of the elephant tied to a fence by a thin rope. The baby elephant couldn't break the rope, but as an adult it can easily do so but believes the hold on it is real, as it still appears that way to the elephant, even though the reality is entirely different.

alkhemst:

--- Quote from: goyacobol on April 28, 2015, 03:34:24 PM ---From this session above I think the pyramid/triangle symbolism may relate to the Quorum and other groups such as the Masons.  As long as we don't name names we may be OK to try to find more connections?  Like don't point our fingers at the Grand Puba or the wrong company execs?

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There was some references above on freemasonry, that they were an offshoot of the templars, apparently they discovered the ancient manuscripts that eventually ended up in the great library of Cordova but I'll see if I can find some references to that. In terms of the masons, you can see that their symbolism shows the measure in a triangle shape. Its core premise is about being the builders of the pyramids. What I feel this means is not the actual pyramids but the power structure of appearance I was saying above. The essence then is being reality builders, building an appearence that is believable enough for the majority to give their own power away, and go along with psychopathological dictates. If we go back to how the Jesuits began and bearing in mind that Ignatius was a member of the Alumbrados that came out of Spain we get a potential lead. There's some conceptual linkage here to the Templars, the Alumbrados, Jesuits and freemasonry.

Interestingly the New Catholic Encyclopedia tells us that Illuminati is Alumbrados and also the Templar link:

--- Quote ---ALUMBRADOS (ILLUMINATI)
Name given to the adherents of a Spanish pseudo-mysticism of the 16th century and deriving from their claim to act always under the immediate illumination of the Holy Spirit. The name was first so used in a letter from a Franciscan friar to Cardinal ximÉnez de cisneros in 1494. The movement itself was but a recurrence of the bizarre parody of true mysticism that is never long absent from the Church in the world. Proximately, its sources would most probably be found in the voluntarism of medieval Teutonic theology and in the Averroistic strains of Arabian mysticism, as well as in a Reformation anticlericalism. The movement was confined mostly to the Dioceses of Cadiz and Seville. …
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http://www.encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-3407700404/alumbrados-illuminati.html

alkhemst:
Came across this masonic pyramid showing steps to the top.
Who controls the BIS?

goyacobol:

--- Quote from: alkhemst on April 29, 2015, 03:58:58 AM ---Came across this masonic pyramid showing steps to the top.
Who controls the BIS?

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alkhemst,

That's a colorful picture.  It looks like a fairly straight forward depiction of the steps/levels of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.  I had a friend (now deceased from heart problems) who belonged to that order.  He used to keep a huge Mason Bible on a coffee table.  I kind of wish I had looked at it closer now.  Anyway the Cs do mention the Scots and Celts in relation to Freemasonry.

Here is one quote:

Session 12 November 1994

--- Quote ---Q: (L) And those who are in the quorum and the illuminati ...
Q: (L) Back to the quorum and illuminati.
A: Quorum mostly alien; illuminati mostly human.
Q: (L) Well, the quorum has been described...
A: Meet; two halves of whole.
Q: (L) Well the quorum seems to be described as being in touch with the Cassiopaeans, that is,
yourselves, which you have described as beneficial beings, is this correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) The illuminati has been described as being behind or with the brotherhood which has been
described as being in connection with the Lizard beings...
A: Close. But not that simple.
Q: (L) Well, if the quorum is the good guys and the illuminati is the bad guys, and they both are at the
high levels of Freemasonry, what is the story here?
A: Picture a circle or cycle first now then contemplate for a moment before follow up.
Q: (L) Okay, I am contemplating a cycling circle.
A: Now, two halves representing positive and negative. Two halves.
Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of that is the two halves and both sides are playing with the human
race. Is that it?
A: No. This is complicated but if you can learn and understand, it will be a super revelation.
Q: (L) Well, go ahead and explain.
A: Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Why do we so often have to ask things step by step?
A: In order to absorb the information.
Q: (L) The quorum is described as the good guys. The illuminati is described as bad guys. And yet, they
are both Masonic. When a person in the Masonic organization reaches the higher levels, are there
individuals at the higher levels recruiting masons to one side or the other?
A: First, not exactly one side or another.
Q: (L) I am beginning to not understand something here because if the Lizzies...
A: Unblock.
Q: (L) I don't have a block here. If the brotherhood AKA illuminati AKA Lizzies AKA beast are the ones
who are going to do detrimental things to this planet, how are they related or connected to the quorum
which is in touch with...
A: This will take time to explain be patient it will be worth it.
Q: (L) Well, are you going to explain it right now?
A: Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Okay. What is the nature of evil?
A: Blend.
Q: (L) Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are the Cassiopaeans what we would consider to be good?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yet, do the Cassiopaeans use and manipulate the Lizzies to accomplish certain things?
A: No.
Q: (L) The Lizzies work independently and in opposition to the Cassiopaeans?
A: Independently, not in opposition.
Q: (L) Well then, is there somebody over and above this whole project...
A: We serve others therefore there is no opposition. Careful now. Step by step. If you do not fully
understand answer ask another.
Q: (L) Part of a whole. Part of a circle.
A: Blend.
Q: (L) Does this mean...
A: Picture a blending colored circle image.
Q: (L) Are you saying that at some levels the two halves overlap?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are you saying that some of the Quorum are good guys and bad guys and the same for the
Illuminati because the two are on opposing sides of the circle but at the point of blending one is
weighted more to one side and the other to the other side? And these organizations are where the
interactions come together?
A: Closer.
Q: (L) Let's leave it for the time being.
A: No. Now please.
Q: (L) Okay. So it is a blending. Does it have something to do with ... in your case service to others
means that you even serve those who serve self, is that correct?
A: Yes; we serve you and the Lizards have programed your race to self service remember.
Q: (L) Well, I am down a notch or two. So, I am still a service to self individual to some extent, is that
correct?
A: But moving slowly toward service to others. Not all humans are.
Q: (L) Does this mean that when people who are members of the quorum or illuminati call for
information or help, that you, because of your service to others orientation are obliged to answer
whoever calls?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) What is the no part.
A: If vibrational frequencies are out of pattern we do not connect.
Q: (L) Is the work of the Lizzies part of an overall grand plan or design?
A: All is.
Q: (L) Let's go on. I am depressed because you guys told me I was a bad person.
A: You are not a bad person.
Q: (L) Well, I am feeling pretty crummy right now.
A: Lizzies induced.
Q: (L) You mean my crummy feelings are Lizzie induced?
A: As always.
Q: (L) Well I am feeling crummy because you guys let me know that I am in the same sinking boat as
the rest of the poor slobs on this miserable planet. I was working pretty hard to get out of the boat.
A: Silliness; you're in your own boat.
Q: (L) I would like to know where Dr. Usui got the Reiki symbols?
A: Must answer question.
Q: (L) What question? The quorum and illuminati question?
A: You will feel ecstasy once answered.
Q: (L) Okay. A blending. Yet two halves
Q: (L) Okay. A blending. Yet two halves.
A: Of a circle.
Q: (L) Who designed this circle?
A: Natural frequency wave. Some near conjunction blend both service patterns and each "camp" to
create perfect balance.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Illuminati are the higher level on the pathway of service to self and somehow, by
reaching these higher levels may have come to realizations or frequencies which have caused their
position to be modified or blended to where service to self becomes or incorporates or moves them to
service to others realizations, is this correct?
A: Continue.
Q: (L) Okay, the ones in the quorum are those who are focused on service to others and they, in their
pathway of service to others begin to understand that some service to self is service to others.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And the whole idea is to blend both pathways no matter which direction you come to it from?
A: Service to others provides the perfect balance of those two realities; service to self is the diametrical
opposite closing the grand cycle in perfect balance.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have a pathway of service to self in order for the pathway of service to
others to exist?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those who are in the quorum and the illuminati ...
A: Blends in middle.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have the darkness in order to have the light...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And it is necessary to have the Lizzies in order to have the Cassiopaeans...
A: Close.
Q: (L) And both groups evolved through the Masonic organizations..
A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these processes.
Q: (L) Okay, thank you very much. I think that is all for tonight.
A: Good Night.
End of Session

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Session 24 September 1995

--- Quote ---Q: (L) I am curious about what I call the "Scottish Question." Why is it that every time I start a paper
trail on any issue of conspiracy, there always seems to be a link to Scotland and Scots?
A: "Celtic," what does it mean?
Q: (L) Well, the word "kilt" comes from "Celtic," but no one seems to know where they originated...
they just sort of appeared on the landscape, so to speak.
A: Exactly!
Q: (L) Are you going to tell us?
A: No, not just as of yet.
Q: (L) So, there is some interesting connection! (RC) Does it mean "warrior race?"
A: If you prefer! We have close affiliation with the "Northern Peoples." Why? Because we were in
regular, direct contact with them on Kantek, before they were "lifted" to Earth by Orion STS.
Q: (L) If you were in direct contact with them, how come they were in cahoots with the Orion STS
bunch?
A: Who says they are in "kahoots?"
Q: (L) Weren't they rescued by the Orion STS?
A: Yes. But one need not be in "kahoots" to be rescued!!!
Q: (L) Well, if the Orion STS brought the Celts here, they must have brought them for their own
purposes, am I correct?
A: Essentially, but herein lies the reason why you need a review. You see, you have some gaps in your
knowledge base which are caused by channeling, absorbing and analyzing information out of sequence
with what we have given you and mixing it all together!
Q: (L) Okay, what's my problem?
A: You are doing wonderfully, my dear, but it is difficult for you to keep up this way, because your
natural drive for the truth makes you impatient, and therefore you tend to fill in the gaps with simple
reasoning and assumptions. While these are often correct, they can tend to allow you to get ahead of
yourself.
Q: (L) Okay, square one: Is the quorum composed of humans who have been alchemists, who are
presently in possession of a substance called "the elixir of life" and which David Hudson calls
"monoatomic gold?"
A: And much, much more! Monoatomic gold is but one minor issue here. Why get lead astray by
focusing upon it solely. It would be akin to focusing on the fact that "Batman" can fly! Is that the only
important thing that "Batman" does in the story? Is it?
Q: (L) Of course not! (R) Batman fights crime!
A: What we mean is that alchemy is but one minor piece of the puzzle.
Q: (L) Okay, I understand. But, understanding the alchemical connection, and its potential for
extending life and opening certain abilities, makes it more feasible to think of a group that has been
present steadily and consistently for many thousands of years on earth.
A: They are not the only ones!
Q: (L) Oh! I knew I was opening a can of worms!
A: Let us go to the root.
Q: (L) What is the root?
A: Who, or what made you?
Q: (RC) The Creator. (L) Prime Creator.
A: How? And who is Prime Creator?
Q: (L) Everything, I guess.
A: You are "Prime Creator."
Q: (L)Well, we know we are... (RC) We are creators, but we aren't the Prime Creator...
A: Prime Creator Manifests IN you.
Q: (L) Okay, so at the root is Prime Creator.
A: But... who was secondary?
Q: (RC) The Sons of God? The Elohim?
A: Who is that? Remember, your various legends are "seen through a veil."
Q: (L) Okay, the secondary creators are the ones interacting with us directly?
A: Okay.
Q: (L) Is this the source of the stimulation to discover knowledge?
A: Basically, but, let us take this step by step.
Q: (RC) Okay, getting back to the Celts, were the Pleiadians the secondary creators who brought in the
Celts?
A: Review what we have just said!
Q: (L) They said it was the Orions. Are the Orions these secondary creators? (RC) Well, I read that it
was the Pleiadians. And the Hebrews were originally the Hoovids who came from Sirius...
A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry
on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate
knowledge!!!
Q: (L) If the Orion STS brought the Celts here, were the Celts, while they lived on Kantek, in the form
they are in now?
A: They were lighter in appearance.
Q: (L) You have told us on other occasions that the Semitic peoples were remnants of the Atlanteans,
and yet they are quite unlike...
A: Whoa!! Wait a minute, let's not get ahead of ourselves. First things first. What Roxanne said was not
entirely factual. Remember, there is much disinformation to weed through.
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I feel this is probably information overload and I am a little tired so I'll continue later.  It is these kinds of sessions that make me think the Masons may be part of the BIS connections although they are lower level than the Illuminati according to the Cs which I don't is mentioned in the above but I can find it later if you need it.  Or maybe they are really small potatoes and we should look more at the Illuminati level.

alkhemst:

--- Quote from: goyacobol on April 29, 2015, 07:54:52 AM ---I feel this is probably information overload and I am a little tired so I'll continue later.  It is these kinds of sessions that make me think the Masons may be part of the BIS connections although they are lower level than the Illuminati according to the Cs which I don't is mentioned in the above but I can find it later if you need it.  Or maybe they are really small potatoes and we should look more at the Illuminati level.

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Bringing it back to what the C's say really puts it in context I feel.

After reading that, occurred to me that religion on it's own is just a good tool for mass control, so it doesn't really matter what kind or how, religion itself has that resolute purpose. The word religion apparently means "to bind". So it's just about binding people together and also binding them under a set of rules. That means the belief in government is as much as a religion as the catholic church is.

If religion is soup laced with arsenic, you'd have to make the soup taste good so people will swallow it. So that means there's got to be some sound principles in your religion, for example a lot of STO concepts need to be at the forefront. The point is not what's good about it, but the fact that is is a poison, right?

OK I know I'm sounding like Mao Tse-tung :P

So I'm thinking for secret (and not so secret) societies - these are just these off-shoots of religion that are also a good tool but more a tool for  organising how things get done in a mass way (like a middle to upper management). For the government, the secret and not so secret societies are just called companies or corporations, they do things in the shadows and only report on what "we need to hear".

So in a nutshell if it's a tool, then the next question is who uses that tool and how? I guess that goes back to what the C's are saying.

I think that's all there really is to it to be honest.

So back to the Catholic Church, perhaps it just indicates that this religion has been the spearhead for a long time, but eventually as the spearhead gets blunt, a new spearhead will just replace it. That's probably this idea of a one world government.

I mean Bill Gates seems to like the idea and Windows never had any bugs:


--- Quote ---"Take the UN, it has been created especially for the security in the world. We are ready for war, because we have taken every precaution. We have NATO, we have divisions, jeeps, trained people,” Gates said. “But what is with epidemics? How many doctors do we have as much planes, tents, what scientists? If there were such a thing as a world government, we would be better prepared.”

_http://www.westernjournalism.com/bill-gates-calls-for-global-government/

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Just some reflections. Anyway, here's an interesting piece that ties freemasonry back again to the church.


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--- Quote ---We are then in complete agreement on the point that freemasonry was the only author of the revolution, and the applause which I receive from the Left, and to which I am little accustomed, proves, gentlemen, that you acknowledge with me that it was masonry which made the French revolution.

(Taken from the chamber of Deputies during the session on July 1, 1904 and stated by the Marquis de Rosanbo)
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According to Fisher, again, the rebellion in Italy against Papal governments during the 1830s,

--- Quote ---was known as the Risorgimento, which, in reality, was a classic Masonic revolutionary movement. Its leaders were Giuseppe Mazzini, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Camillo Cavour and King Victor Emmanuel II - all ardent Freemasons.”

(King Victor Emmanuel II was later poisoned by his son, Prince Umberto, who it is then claimed was assassinated by the order of Masonic Lodges.)

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Mazzini, according to the Grand Commander of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in America, was the first head of modern Freemasonry in Italy.

--- Quote ---One historian, Charles Heckethorn, in his book, Secret Societies, says the chilling word “Mafia” is an acronym meaning,

--- Quote ---Mazzini Autoriza Furti, Incendi, Avelenameti: that is: Mazzini authorizes thefts, arson and poisoning.
(Behind the Lodge Door, Paul A. Fisher)

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--- Quote ---Practically all the heroes of Italian liberty were Masons.
(New England Craftsman 1920)

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--- Quote ---A great part of Europe - the whole of Italy and France, and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries - are covered with a network of these secret societies, just as the superficies of the Earth is now being covered with railroads. And what are their objects? They do not attempt to conceal themselves. They do not want constitutional government. They do not want ameliorated institutions; they do not want provincial councils nor the recording of votes.

(Benjamin Disraeli, future Chancellor of the Exchequer of Great Britain and Prime Minister - Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates, 1876)

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A lot of these quotes seem to point at a war between the Catholic Church and the Freemasons.
 
This is an interesting point and one that confuses many people when they see that the Masons are actually linked and were created by the Catholic Church (or the other way around). This is a standard ploy used by secret society people across the world, and even to be found within the Statutes of many secret societies and even religious orders. It was the “done thing” to appear on the outside to be against the powers of authority, while all the time working for them.

The Freemasons can clearly be shown to have evolved from esoteric sects emanating from within and even before the Catholic Church and as a direct result of Templar influence in Scotland. So the Masons could be traced back to the Catholic Church.

This goes back to the Templars, a Catholic order. It also goes back to the Knights of St. John or Knights of Malta.
 
Both the Templars and the Knights of Malta have reemerged from within the Masons and are now orders themselves - in various forms. Most still owe allegiance to the Masons, but are distinct. The Knights of Malta can directly be traced back to their origin and are now located in the Vatican.

Now the Jesuits are spoken of elsewhere in this book, but they certainly are part of the Catholic Church and, in my opinion, originally influenced the Illuminati. This created a secular and separate society that later formed back into the Masons - who were created by the Catholics anyway - do we see a picture emerging here?

There is a glimmer of that central part of the wheel to which all the spokes seem to be attached. Before the Illuminati merged into the Masons, they had been implicated in the creation of several other groups such as the Rosicrucians, Golden Dawn, and even the Lutherans and Protestants!

Even South America was regained via the Spanish under guidance of Jesuit and other Monastic Orders - all Catholics.

_http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretsoc/secretsoc14.htm

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Edits: grammar etc.
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