Raping of Mother Earth? Ecosexuality

Solie123

Jedi Council Member
Recently I have been catching up with the Jordan Peterson thread on gender pronouns and free speech, and Nime had posted a video on that thread that I will embed below:


https://youtu.be/I-niI1Gijdk


So apparently Ecosexuality is a thing - it's when people feel sexually aroused, and perform sexual acts to the earth. Those who identify as 'ecosexual' view the environment as an erotic partner, have sexual fantasies with nature, and are physically in love with the Earth.... :umm: (Talk about taking tree hugging to another level...)

At first I thought, woow, what a deranged paraphilia - is this what society is coming to? The more it sat with me though, the more furious I got with the idea. The disturbing image in my head was of, the molestation of Mother Earth, and here I thought: well how symbolic that really is. We already rape and pillage her in a metaphoric sense, now society has begun to do so literally.

I'm not one to personify things, and forgive me if this all sounds like a personification of the Earth, but this whole idea really bothers me for some reason! It makes my stomach turn in disgust and disturbance. It feels like a utter disrespect to Mother Earth! :( I am baffled, and speechless at twistedness of such an idea. I'm not sure why I feel so strongly about this, but I would like to hear your guys' opinion.
 
Re: Raping of the Mother - Ecosexual

Well, it certainly is out there! We are sooo sexually oriented! I guess it was only a matter of time?
Although, this one almost seems purposely offensive. It's like someone went out of their way to be as offensive and off the wall as they could.
 
Re: Raping of the Mother - Ecosexual

Hi Solie, I too saw that on the Jordan Peterson thread, and I am speechless to say the least. To think that some people don't identify as human should really say it all. I read this article last night on SoTT, and it's just so on point with regards to having some decency etiquette and basically acting like an adult for goodness sake. I think what we are witnessing is infantile behaviour en masse.

author SoTT Society's Child said:
You're not being shamed. You're being expected to act like a civilized adult
Matt Wa
The Blaze
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:04 UTC

By some stroke of misfortune I happened across this headline from People Magazine: "Yoga Instructor Practices in White Pants While Free-Bleeding to Make a Point About Period Shame."

I only hope aliens from an advanced civilization aren't able to access our Internet. Surely, if they saw this, or pretty much anything else that gets posted to the internet on a daily basis, they'd correctly surmise that we are a race of dangerous lunatics. Their only recourse at that point would be to incinerate us with their alien Death Ray.

On second thought, maybe I do hope they can access our internet.

The article tells us about a woman named Steph Gongora who takes inspiring Instagram videos of herself bleeding into her pants while she does yoga poses. Her latest video has this caption:
"I am a woman, therefore, I bleed. It's messy, it's painful, it's terrible and it's beautiful. And yet, you wouldn't know. Because I hide it. I bury things at the bottom of the trash. I breathe, ragged and awkward through the cramps, all the while holding onto this tight-lipped, painted-on smile... Hundreds of years of culture have made us embarrassed to bleed, have left us feeling dirty and ashamed..."
I haven't investigated the rest of Steph's work, so I'm not sure how far she takes this philosophy. One wonders if she's launched similar campaigns to fight back against society's merciless shaming of other bodily functions. Just imagine the possibilities:

"I ate Taco Bell, therefore, I have diarrhea. It's messy, it's painful, it's terrible and it's beautiful. And yet, you wouldn't know. Because I hide it. I flush things down the toilet. Hundreds of years of culture have made us embarrassed to defecate in our pants, have left us feeling dirty and ashamed..."

A Shaming For Everyone

You think I'm joking, but "poop shaming" is actually a thing. There's a shaming for everything these days. Every week there's some new group of drama queens whining that they're being "shamed" for this or that.

As we know, the two most common anti-shaming efforts involve overweight people gallivanting around in various states of undress in order to fight "body shaming" (there are 12 types of body shaming, by the way), and promiscuous women also gallivanting around in various states of undress in order to fight "-jezebel- shaming" (after a while you begin to suspect that anti-shame warriors are just looking for an excuse to get naked). But that's just the tip of the iceberg of shame. Shaming comes in all shapes and forms and styles and flavors. There's skinny jean shaming, single shaming, formula shaming, house shaming, divorce shaming, tattoo shaming, selfie shaming, reader shaming, salad shaming, snack shaming, hook up shaming, millennial shaming, sweat shaming, sleep shaming, food stamp shaming, Instagram filter shaming, Pokemon shaming, pajama shaming, phone shaming, riot shaming, leisure time shaming, baby shaming, vacation shaming, stoner shaming, body modification shaming, and music shaming. Specifically for women, along with period shaming, there's also abortion shaming, pole dance shaming, sorority shaming, shirtless shaming, armpit hair shaming, and alcohol shaming.

And for those who shame all of this shaming there's shame shaming, which often leads to shame shaming shaming and even shame shaming shaming shaming, which gives rise to the shaming of shame shamers who shame those who shame shamers for shame shaming shaming. We're all just ashamed all the time, it seems, but not so ashamed that we won't post heroic pictures of ourselves doing whatever it is we claim we're persecuted for doing. And, although society supposedly "shames" this activity, we're sure to get 100 thousand likes and 50 thousand shares and 10 thousand laudatory comments.

It's Called A "Different Opinion"

Here's a good rule of thumb: If you are roundly congratulated for doing something, society is not shaming you. Often, when we complain of being "shamed," we really mean that a few random people have expressed mild disapproval or disagreement with some trivial, unimportant habit or preference of ours. Yeah, some people don't like your pants or your tattoos; some people think you read silly books and play dumb games; some people find your taste in music and fashion horrid, and guess what? They're allowed to have those opinions. They're probably right, anyway, but that's beside the point. The point is that you haven't been victimized or injured because someone differed with you.

You haven't been "shamed" just because your tastes aren't shared by every single person you meet. You've simply discovered the reality that other people are other people. They may have preferences that differ from your own. They may, God forbid, verbalize those preferences, even going so far as to offer some critique of yours. Perhaps their criticism is correct, perhaps it's wrong, perhaps nobody is exactly right or wrong and it really is just a matter of taste. Whatever the case, your job, as a rational adult, is to endure this encounter with the otherness of another person without collapsing into a puddle of tears over it. Besides, if you do collapse into a puddle of tears, you run the risk of being cry shamed. And, oh, what a shame that would be
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Well Deserved Shame

But there is another form of alleged "shaming" which I think deserves special consideration. Sometimes a person feels "shamed" not just for having an opinion or a preference or a point of view, but for doing something legitimately indecent and objectionable. This "shaming," what little still occurs, is objectively good and healthy.

If, for instance, you feel "shame" from walking around naked, or acting like a "-jezebel-," or being unhygienic, or taking a thousand selfies a day, or cross dressing, or wearing pajamas in public like a child, or having green hair and a thousand piercings all over your face, it's because those behaviors are some mixture of gross, inappropriate, asinine, and juvenile. It's not like you're getting locked in the stockades for it (although I wouldn't necessarily oppose such a measure), you're just experiencing society's natural reaction to ridiculous behavior. Indeed, much of what we consider "shaming" is, in fact, just the minimal standard of decency and decorum that comes with being an adult in a civilized society.


Here's the important point: If you are offended by basic rules of etiquette, it's not because our culture has too many such rules, but because it has too few. We moan about being "shamed" for everything, but, for the most part, we are free to slouch through life like a bunch of slovenly, uncultured barbarians, and hardly anyone will whisper a word of criticism. We're far more likely to be celebrated than scolded for being lewd, filthy, or self-destructive. We pretend that we live in the stuffy environment of a 17th century Puritan settlement, but in what kind of Puritanical culture can the morbidly obese be applauded for taking naked pictures? What sort of Puritanism tolerates menstruating women who intentionally soil their yoga pants as a protest against first world hygiene standards? That's not how Puritanism works, last I checked.

The Consequences of a Shameless Culture

Contrary to what these shame fighters say, many of our societal problems are born from a cataclysmic lack of shame. We have become something like the spoiled brat who throws a tantrum because her parents got her the wrong color Ferrari for her sweet sixteen. It's not as though this indignity is the last straw in a long series of incidents where the poor, neglected child wasn't given exactly what she wanted. Rather, this is the first time in her life that she didn't get exactly what she wanted. She doesn't know how to handle the smallest disappointment because she's never been forced to develop the skill. Her meltdown is the product not of a childhood beset by too many rules, but of a childhood entirely deprived of them.

In a similar fashion, we have all grown up in a culture with almost no notion of decency or decorum. Whereas past societies had rules of conduct governing every human interaction, particularly between men and women, we have none. Perhaps these other eras were a bit too stifled by formalities, but, as we're discovering, it's better to err on that side than the other. We may laugh at the rigidity of earlier times, but even if they were rigid, at least they were sane. When you have too many rules of etiquette, you get the Victorian Era. When you have none, you get an ape colony.


We have so few social protocols that if ever we encounter even the most simple one, we panic. Don't have sex with everyone I meet? Practice basic hygiene? Eat healthy? Wear pants? Don't mutilate myself? How dare you! I won't stand for this oppression! Why shouldn't I defecate in my footsie pajamas as a form of political expression? Who are you to tell me what to do? I feel so shamed! Stop shaming me, you shaming shamer!

Whatever standards we still maintain ought to be protected and reinforced, not cut down to appease those who want to live like beasts.

The Only Proper Etiquette is Improper Etiquette

Now, I refer here to the standards, what few remain, which are rooted in human tradition and meant to encourage us to behave like decent, mature, refined, moral adults. There is, on the other hand, another sort of standard, a different set of rules, that should be ripped apart and destroyed. By that I mean the modern rules that say we can do whatever we want — except follow the old ones.

At the risk of contradicting everything I've just said, perhaps the worst thing about having no rules of etiquette is that having no rules of etiquette quickly turns into its own rule of etiquette, and it is a rule which is ruthlessly enforced. You might say that our culture has become rigid about its lack of rigidness; closed about its openness; narrow-minded about its broad-mindedness. It's not just that a man isn't expected to politely hold the door open, it's that, because such an act reeks of old fashioned chivalry, he's expected not to. He may do whatever he wants to the door — punch it, kick it, lick it, smash it, hump it, eat it, marry it — but what he absolutely mustn't do is hold it open for the lady behind him.

The only wrong way of doing things in our culture is the right way. A lady will not likely be shamed for dressing immodestly, but she may be shamed for dressing modestly. A man won't be shamed for having the tastes, habits, and demeanor of a middle school boy, but he may be shamed for comporting himself like a gentleman. A young woman will not be shamed for being a promiscuous airhead, but she will be shamed for being chaste and pure. Dignity is the only indignity these days.

It turns out that there can't really be a society with no rules. The only question is whether the rules will properly or improperly facilitate interactions between people, and whether they will guide us toward becoming sophisticated adults or absurd, selfish children. Given those options, I think we were better off choosing the former.

Comment: Liberalism once purported to stand for human values. However, Western society as it is today shows it values the absence of values most of all. The fringe and the degenerate are placed on pedestals. People now demand respect for a lack of basic human decency. A society centered on deterioration will get the very thing it seeks.
https://www.sott.net/article/343203-You-re-not-being-shamed-You-re-being-expected-to-act-like-a-civilized-adult
 
Solie said:
At first I thought, woow, what a deranged paraphilia - is this what society is coming to? The more it sat with me though, the more furious I got with the idea. The disturbing image in my head was of, the molestation of Mother Earth, and here I thought: well how symbolic that really is. We already rape and pillage her in a metaphoric sense, now society has begun to do so literally.

Yeah, that's exactly the image that comes to my mind as well, and it's disturbing, to say the least.

I was thinking that it's seems to be a reality based in materialism and the result of viewing the world in materialistic terms only. The world, the universe, must lack consciousness, that's the only way they'd be able to manifest this kind of paraphilia, and I'd say it's a paraphilia, where they can think so egotistically about satisfying sexual needs with nature, as if nature is just there, lacking any consciousness, thus one can do whatever one pleases with it. And it gives as hint of how this view is affecting our society in so many ways.
 
Yas said:
Solie said:
At first I thought, woow, what a deranged paraphilia - is this what society is coming to? The more it sat with me though, the more furious I got with the idea. The disturbing image in my head was of, the molestation of Mother Earth, and here I thought: well how symbolic that really is. We already rape and pillage her in a metaphoric sense, now society has begun to do so literally.

Yeah, that's exactly the image that comes to my mind as well, and it's disturbing, to say the least.

I was thinking that it's seems to be a reality based in materialism and the result of viewing the world in materialistic terms only. The world, the universe, must lack consciousness, that's the only way they'd be able to manifest this kind of paraphilia, and I'd say it's a paraphilia, where they can think so egotistically about satisfying sexual needs with nature, as if nature is just there, lacking any consciousness, thus one can do whatever one pleases with it. And it gives as hint of how this view is affecting our society in so many ways.

Very good points here Yas and Solie, the only one thing that came into my mind was: what the hell is going on with our society?!?!?!? I have to admit I haven't been active in the Peterson thread, but from the videos i've seen and the radio show from the LATAM guys last saturday, all this situation is very very disturbing. It's very sad to see the route that society is taking these days :(
 
Lunatics really taken over the asylum, literally.
I really don't care what other people do, living in NYC. I have seen people in their pajamas and flip flops in the middle of the cold winter,
I have seen crazy people walking around, but I learned to ignore them.
What I'm most concerned is: children.
What kind of example these loony tunes show for the next generation?
I have seen advertising on the subway for cosmetic surgery, for menstruation pants and I hope the children I take care of didn't notice.
I'm a nanny and take care of a 9 yo boy and a 5 yo girl.
:scared:
What's next?
:O :shock:
 
This is just a crazy hypothesis :whistle: but what about if this kind of people are PO or 3D souls resonating with 2D reality because they are in a kind of descend flow of evolution (really I am not sure if it is possible :rolleyes: ) or something like that?
 
Just another sign of the times, people literally losing their minds and their sexuality is so skewed that they get off on the environment instead of members of their own species.

Crazy.
 
The thing that i imagine looking at it from another angle is this thought that for instance homosexuality appears in animals and thus people rationalize this to explaine that is it actually possible to argument that is it normal. In reality it is, our brains are equiped and is capable of many things, and within that range of posibilities, a man liking a man or a woman liking a woman is possible and to some degree normal. Biologically speaking, and in evolutionary terms maybe homosexuality is "the end of a road", however in a much wider and bigger scope, if we talk possibilities, the universe presents many paths for these individuals, perhaps in the evolution of the soul.

This an idea that i have been gathering after some post regarding homosexuality and this whole deal of "i'm so special and welcome to My bubble".

The believing aspect of it at the personal level, the programing is one thing the other is the receivership of the individual, and while yes animals may express homosexuality either sporadically or continuously, and may even hump a tree, well, they don't reinforce themselves through reasoning in order to BELIEVE this is a reality. It represents more like a transitory action.

So why do these people lock these ideas into their , lets call it, believing systems? A transitory idea passes through and their own blockages seem to lock these thoughs and clog them up.

So it seems like an illness, i would normally call it "having nothing better to do kinda people",

When i thought this, and the comments of Ra regarding the many directions the consciousness of people is going, which i recently posted about somewhere, i thought that this percentage of the population express this blockages, and the whole planet being bombarded by programing etc, that these people can potentially drag the entire planet down with them and their beliefs.

It seems to me that this mass consciousness , of believing something or having a divided direction in the mass, is a MEDIUM for all sorts of possibilities and energies to vibrate on, (or at least that is how i think all these possibilities manifest). So in this sense shinning the light does prevent the minds of people to be dragged down at some levels entirely to the point that they feel attracted to mother nature.


I recall a session, (please correct if im wrong), where the C's answered that asexuality is a bain imbalance, not a realy sexual orientation.

When discussing sexuality with someone who is a neurologist he pointed out that there were two processes for arousal, one is down-to-up and the other is Up-to-down, and insidently, down to up starts with the stimulation of the sexual orgarns to create arousal, the other starts from the imagination down to the body, it is in the second process i think where people are less incontact with their real feelings from the moment and themselves where all these fetishes make their home.
On the first you are limited to experience what you experience, and associations come after.

This is an interesting and longer talk about the associations people make when the elements of sexual arousal takes place, and the input of dopamine and the need for more or more exiting stuff but i don't think i can cover that at the moment.

When i read this i thought that many of these fetishes and paraphilias had an origin in the rational mind and followed the reversed process (mind to body) and therefore is subject to all kinds of personal, biased and twisted associations from our own mind built in us, or being suggested through programing.
 
If I ever reincarnate on planet earth as a plant. Please let it be big giant cactus so people won't get inclined to start something intimate.

It's not normal to find a bunch of trees attractive. It just isn't, that said, I knew of this already, some people can only get upset whenever nature is involved. They are so extremely pro-green, it was only a matter of time before they took the next-step and actually start having sexual-relationships with their houseplants. Whet ever the plant agrees with this is something else.
 
I've been thinking about it and I get this sense that, it's a twisted and sick reflection of the current state of our society. At least in the west, where the planet, Mother Earth is but a pile of rocks and resources to be dismembered and looted. It occurs to me that this is the way we generally treat our planet and each other.

All these wars around the globe are for the purpose of keeping more of said resources, but that's not enough. I remember hearing in the last SRN interview with the moriartys that at some point prior to his death and the demise of his country, Gadaffi had said to the west something along the lines of "here, take the money and the oil, just don't destroy my people" but as we know this didn't stop them from raping and torturing the entire nation.

Having a paraphilia for nature is the sickest twist of a fetish I've ever heard. But it does seem to go in line with the way we've treated her for centuries if not longer. And this seems to me to be the ultimate insult to injury. Even if those who losses it are delusional about how they "feel" for her.
 
bjorn said:
If I ever reincarnate on planet earth as a plant. Please let it be big giant cactus so people won't get inclined to start something intimate.
(...)
:lol:
There's also an interesting one Heracleum mantegazzianum or giant hogweed a phototoxic plant:
Important note: The sap produced by giant hogweed is toxic and causes photodermatitis. When skin is exposed to sap and the sun, severe skin rashes, blisters, and possibly permanent scarring or staining can occur. Giant hogweed sap in the eyes can cause temporary or possibly permanent blindness [35]. Sap is considered most toxic when the plant is in flower. If skin contacts giant hogweed, exposed areas should be sheltered from sunlight and washed with cold water. A physician should be consulted . Burns or blisters often appear within 24 to 48 hours of plant contact .

W. Benjamin:
Instead of using technology to make Earth habitable, imperialist war used it for destruction. The technology made it possible to play tribute to this immense cosmos globally. But as the profit lust of the ruling classes sought to quench it, technology betrays man and made the nuptial bed bloodshed. The greed of man leads to unfair control over nature; Instead of impregnating the nature of power to take care of him in return, it makes a loan subject to consume. The alienation of humanity by itself has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order.
 
The video with that strange attitude toward the plants reminded me of a scene at the beginning of the movie “The loves of a Blond” a Czech cinema classic comedy, the former Czechoslovakia, which made famous its director Miloš Forman.

This is the part with subtitles in English where the blonde protagonist hangs ties In the birches.

Loves of a Blonde - The Necktie - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZKsWoXs6P4
 
Solie said:
Recently I have been catching up with the Jordan Peterson thread on gender pronouns and free speech, and Nime had posted a video on that thread that I will embed below:


https://youtu.be/I-niI1Gijdk


So apparently Ecosexuality is a thing - it's when people feel sexually aroused, and perform sexual acts to the earth. Those who identify as 'ecosexual' view the environment as an erotic partner, have sexual fantasies with nature, and are physically in love with the Earth.... :umm: (Talk about taking tree hugging to another level...)

At first I thought, woow, what a deranged paraphilia - is this what society is coming to? The more it sat with me though, the more furious I got with the idea. The disturbing image in my head was of, the molestation of Mother Earth, and here I thought: well how symbolic that really is. We already rape and pillage her in a metaphoric sense, now society has begun to do so literally.

I'm not one to personify things, and forgive me if this all sounds like a personification of the Earth, but this whole idea really bothers me for some reason! It makes my stomach turn in disgust and disturbance. It feels like a utter disrespect to Mother Earth! :( I am baffled, and speechless at twistedness of such an idea. I'm not sure why I feel so strongly about this, but I would like to hear your guys' opinion.
I understand the disgust and disturbance... if we look at the planet as an organism, on top of our mistreatment, this is indeed like adding insult to injury. I kind of see this as a much more carnal and perverted twist on the "beaming love and light to the planet" kind of thing.

Like Emma said, this worries me in regards to children. Like how do you even explain to them that this is a thing? What kind of example does it set?
:barf:

And like Puck said, indeed another example of the signs of the times. I'm wondering what this means in terms of energy transfer... is this just another outlet of our energies for 4D STS to harvest? Will these outlets continue to increase in variety as we keep decaying?
 
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