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The white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Virginia has left three people dead and more than 20 injured from incidents that included a car slamming into a group of people and a helicopter crash.

3 Dead, 20 injured after supremacist march in Virginia
http://zeenews.india.com/world/3-dead-20-injured-after-supremacist-march-in-virginia-2032499.html

Washington: The white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Virginia has left three people dead and more than 20 injured from incidents that included a car slamming into a group of people and a helicopter crash.

The person who died when a car smashed into the crowd, there were also the pilot and a passenger in a state police helicopter that crashed outside the city, Xinhua quoted Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe as saying.

About the vicious car attack, Mayor Mike Signer made the announcement on Twitter, saying he was "heartbroken that a life has been lost here. I urge all people of good will--go home."

The car ran into a group of people protesting against the white supremacist march, and the driver has been arrested, according to eye-witnesses said.

For now, the identity and motive of the driver are unknown.

Authorities at the University of Virginia Medical Center confirmed the death following the car attack as well as the 19 it injured and who are being treated there.

They also noted that another 15 people were injured in violent clashes that morning.

In a brief appearance, US President Donald Trump condemned the violence and "hate" in the city.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," Trump said in a statement from Bedminster, New Jersey, where he is spending his summer vacation.

Trump added that "it has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."

The car attack occurred around 1:00 pm, soon after McAuliffe declared a state of emergency in the city for the clashes between participants in the march and those opposed to it.

The controversial "Unite the Right" march was organised to protest the removal of a statue honoring Gen. Robert E. Lee, commander of the Confederate Army in the 19th-century American Civil War.


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Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency Saturday amid violent clashes between hundreds of white nationalists and counter-protesters in Charlottesville.

US: Emergency declared as clashes erupt at hate rally
http://www.worldbulletin.net/haber/192868/us-emergency-declared-as-clashes-erupt-at-hate-rally

Riot gear-clad police officers ordered protesters to disperse after clashes quickly escalated in the southern city's Emancipation Park. But as the climate calmed down a car plowed into a group of counter-protestors, potentially killing one.


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US President Donald Trump on Saturday condemned hatred and violence "on many sides" as clashes between white nationalist demonstrators and anti-racist counter-protestors left one dead in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Trump condemns 'egregious' Virginia violence 'on many sides'
http://www.worldbulletin.net/america-canada/192870/trump-condemns-egregious-virginia-violence-on-many-sides

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides,"   Trump said from Bedminster, New Jersey, where he is on a working vacation.

In his call for unity the Republican president stopped short of denouncing the white supremacist groups that had descended on the normally peaceful university city for a far-right rally that erupted in violence.

"The hate and the division must stop right now," Trump said. "We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation."

The violent skirmishes between members of the far-right -- including Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi sympathizers -- and counter-demonstrators saw one person killed after a car rammed into a crowd.

According to multiple witnesses, the victims of the car ramming were counter-protestors denouncing the so-called "alt-right."

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe had earlier declared a state of emergency.


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President Donald Trump blamed "many sides" for violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, in the wake of a white nationalist demonstration, drawing swift reactions.

Reactions to Trump's statement on violence in Virginia
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/reactions-to-trumps-statement-on-violence-in-virginia-440087883.html

Democrats and some Republicans called on him to specifically denounce white supremacy and racially motivated hate by name. Vice-President Mike Pence supported the president's speech. A white supremacist website praised the comments.

What Trump said: - "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," Trump said. "It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump. Not Barack Obama. It's been going on for a long, long time."

What others are saying: — "I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame for a lot of what you're seeing in American today right at the doorstep of the White House and the people around the president." — Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer, a Democrat.

— "Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism." — Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., on Twitter.

— "Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists" — Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— "@POTUS needs to speak out against the poisonous resurgence of white supremacy. There are not "many sides" here, just right and wrong." - Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., on Twitter.

— "As @POTUS Trump said, "We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation... & true affection for each other." #Charlottesville" — Vice-President Mike Pence on Twitter.

— "There is only one side. #charlottesville" — Former Vice-President Joe Biden on Twitter.

— "Even as we protect free speech and assembly, we must condemn hatred, violence and white supremacy." — Former President Bill Clinton on Twitter.

— "The violence, chaos, and apparent loss of life in Charlottesville is not the fault of "many sides." It is racists and white supremacists." — Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring, a Democrat.

— "We reject the racism and violence of white nationalists like the ones acting out in Charlottesville. Everyone in leadership must speak out." — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican and Trump supporter.

— "We should call evil by its name. My brother didn't give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH" — Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, on Twitter.

— "We must ALL condemn domestic terror & stand together against racism, hate and evils that if left unchecked will tear us apart #Charlottesville — Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., on Twitter.

— "White supremacists, Neo-Nazis and anti-Semites are the antithesis of our American values. There are no other "sides" to hatred and bigotry." — Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— "The President's talk of violence 'on many sides' ignores the shameful reality of white supremacism in our country today, and continues a disturbing pattern of complacency around such acts of hate." — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

— "Trump comments were good. He didn't attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. ... No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him." — Daily Stormer, a white supremacist website promoting the Charlottesville demonstration as part of its Summer of Hate edition.


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A police helicopter that was reportedly monitoring the protests and violence in Charlottesville, Virginia has crashed in a wooded area, killing two people on board.

2 die in police helicopter crash amid violent protests in Charlottesville   (Video)
https://www.rt.com/usa/399438-police-helicopter-crash-charlottesville/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7KHhW6LVw  (0:10 min.)

Virginia State Police identified the two people who died in the crash as the aircraft’s pilot, Lieutenant H. Jay Cullen, 48, and Trooper-Pilot Berke M.M. Bates. Cullen left behind a wife and two sons.

The police later confirmed that the crashed helicopter “was assisting public safety resources with the ongoing situation in Charlottesville.” “There is no indication of foul play being a factor of the crash,” the statement added.

The helicopter crashed near Old Farm Road in Albemarle County, which is just outside the city.

"Shortly before 5 p.m. today (Aug. 12), a helicopter crashed into a wooded area near a residence on Old Farm Road. There are two confirmed fatalities," Virginia State Police said in a statement on Facebook. Fire units and police were dispatched to the scene.

Witnesses CBS19 News that the helicopter went down in the woods, and that a strong smell of burning was in the air. Police have sealed off the area.


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The mayor of Lexington, Kentucky, says after the events in Charlottesville, Virginia, he is taking the steps to remove two Confederate-era statues from the lawn of a former courthouse.

A Kentucky mayor pushes to remove 2 Confederate statues
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-kentucky-mayor-pushes-to-remove-2-confederate-statues/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=RSS_nation-world

The Lexington Herald-Leader reports that Mayor Jim Gray said in a statement Saturday he will ask the Lexington-Fayette County Urban County Council at its Tuesday work session to ask a state military commission for permission to take down the statues of John Hunt Morgan and John C. Breckinridge.


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Police in Charlottesville, VA, have leveled murder charges on the driver of a car who plowed his vehicle into counter-protestors during Saturday's violent white supremacist rallies, killing one woman and injuring many more.

Murder Charge for Driver in Auto Attack in Charlottesville
https://sputniknews.com/art_living/201708131056418512-murder-charge-in-auto-attack/

A 20-year-old man, described as a "skinny white guy with a straggly beard" drove his automobile into a crowd of people, killing a 32-year-old woman and injuring at least 19, according to the Guardian.

The victim's identity has not been released as authorities attempt to locate her next of kin.

The driver of the car has been "charged with second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a death," said Colonel Martin Kumer, superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail, in an email, cited by the Guardian.

The tragedy occurred doing a day marked by violence, as white supremacists descended upon the college town   by the hundreds and thousands of counter-protesters blocked their way.

Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency in the city.
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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
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A car rammed into protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, during a far right rally. Several are reportedly injured in the incident.

Shocking Video Shows Car Ramming Into Pro-Confederate Protesters in US   (Photo of car + videos)
https://sputniknews.com/us/201708121056414209-car-protesters-charlottesville-live-video/

Thousands of white nationalists joined a rally held by Unite the Right in Emancipation Park protesting the removal of a statue honoring Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, which glorifies the era of slavery as critics say. The rally followed a night, when white nationalists organized a torch march at the University of Virginia.

Video footage suggests that the car rammed into protesters intentionally. Caution, the videos might offend sensibilities.

Another look at a car intentionally driven into counter-protesters in #Charlottesville. Suspect hit reverse & left. pic.twitter.com/SAiLmegj8W

According to media reports, the police detained the driver, the attack will be handled as a homicide, the city's commonwealth attorney said.

The protest's declared aim is to "affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution, as well as to "unify the right-wing against a totalitarian Communist crackdown" and to protest "displacement level immigration policies" in the US and Europe. It has been massively criticized as a "white nationalist" event.

Governor of the US state of Virginia declared a state of emergency on Saturday as a rally organized by far-right activists has turned violent in Charlottesville.

"Governor [Terry] McAuliffe has declared a state of emergency to aid state response to violence at Alt-Right rally in Charlottesville."

"It is now clear that public safety cannot be safeguarded without additional powers, and that the mostly out-of-state protesters have come to Virginia to endanger our citizens and property. I am disgusted by the hatred, bigotry and violence these protesters have brought to our state over the past 24 hours," McAuliffe said in a statement later in the day.

The state of emergency was declared as violent clashes started between the nationalists and their opponents. According to reports, several people were injured. Media reports suggested that tear gas and armored vehicles had been used to try stop the clashes.

The ‘Unite the Right Free Speech Rally’ came 3 months after alt-right activists held a torch-lit march against the removal of Confederate statue in Charlottesville and were confronted by counter-protesters.


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Two Virginia State Police troopers were killed in a helicopter crash near Charlottesville, Va., that officials say is linked to violent clashes in the city, President Trump confirmed in a tweet Saturday.

Two Virginia state troopers killed in helicopter crash at golf course tied to violent clashes in Charlottesville
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/killed-chopper-crash-va-charlottesville-clashes-article-1.3406606

“Deepest condolences to the families & fellow officers of the VA State Police who died today. You’re all among the best this nation produces,” Trump tweeted shortly before 7 p.m.

The chopper was hovering low over houses before it went down roughly two hours earlier in a wooded area near the Birdwood Golf Course, the Daily Progress newspaper reports.

Virginia State Police confirmed the fatalities in a Facebook post, but didn’t indicate the victims were troopers.

The golf course is some seven miles west of Charlottesville’s downtown area.

“The cause of the crash remains under investigation at this time,” Virginia State Police said in the post.

A woman was killed earlier in the day when a silver Dodge Charger plowed into a crowd of people protesting a white nationalist demonstration in Charlottesville.


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Fights erupted and multiple people were injured when a car plowed through a crowd Saturday as white nationalists and counter-protesters violently clashed here — prompting Charlottesville police and Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe to declare a state of emergency.

Virginia Gov. Declares State of Emergency as White Nationalist Rally Turns Violent   (Videos)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/torch-wielding-white-supremacists-march-university-virginia-n792021?cid=eml_onsite
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/violence-breaks-out-at-white-nationalist-protest-1023321667867  (0:28 min.)
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/drone-hovers-over-scene-of-car-crash-at-charlottesville-rally-1023449667512  (0:42 min.)
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/white-nationalist-rally-turns-violent-1023216195743  (1:00 min.)

Supporters gathered in Emancipation Park Saturday morning in anticipation of a noon rally held by “Unite the Right.” The aim of the rally was to protest the removal of a statue honoring Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. The park was formerly known as Lee Park.

State police and members of the Virginia National Guard surrounded the park after McAuliffe declared a state of emergency and the city of Charlottesville declared the alt-right protest an unlawful assembly — effectively cancelling the demonstration before its planned start time.

The Charlottesville Police Department reported that, as of 12:30 p.m. ET, it had made a single arrest and emergency medical personnel had responded to eight injuries.

But those may not be the only injuries related to the event. A video made after 1 p.m. ET and posted to social media appeared to show a car plow into a group of counter-protesters as they walked through the streets of Charlottesville.

CPD asked that people avoid and clear the site of the three-vehicle accident —Fourth and Water streets — in downtown Charlottesville. They reported multiple injuries. NBC News confirmed that the car that struck the crowd was a silver Dodge Charger, which built speed over two blocks before hitting the counter-protesters.

After striking a number of people, the car appears to back up and flee the scene.

Assistant city editor of the Daily Progress Mark Newton told MSNBC that witnesses reported at least nine people were injured and that “bodies went flying.”

The CPD estimated between 2,000 and 6,000 people were expected to attend the “Unite the Right” rally, according to local paper The Daily Progress. The controversial event was seeking to unify the far-right wing and “affirm the right of Southerners and white people to organize for their interests,” according to its Facebook page.

McAuliffe said he declared a state of emergency to allow for a response to quell the violence.

“It is now clear that public safety cannot be safeguarded without additional powers, and that the mostly out-of-state protesters have come to Virginia to endanger our citizens and property,” McAuliffe said in a statement released shortly before noon. “I am disgusted by the hatred, bigotry and violence these protesters have brought to our state over the past 24 hours.”

White nationalists, as well as apparent neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan members, were met in opposition by clergy members and other groups, who stood in a line singing “This Little Light of Mine” to drown out the profanity and slurs.

“Love has already won. We have already won,” the counter-protesters responded early Saturday.

But as the violence intensified with shoving and punching, demonstrators covered their mouths after tear gas was apparently released into the crowd.

Two people were also treated for serious but non-life-threatening injuries near Emancipation Park, the city of Charlottesville tweeted, as tensions flared with back-and-forth shouting and physical posturing.

A large group of counter-protesters wore black shirts and masks and carried shields, yelling to the white nationalists: “We have replaced you. Strong, united, interracial crew.”

Once the violence had mostly come to an end, President Donald Trump denounced the clashes via a tweet that called for “ALL” to be united in their condemnation of hate.

The city and Albemarle County both issued a “declaration of local emergency” for the two jurisdictions to request additional resources.

McAuliffe said that his entire team would continue to monitor the situation and continue to coordinate with Virginia State Police, Virginia National Guard, the Virginia Department of Emergency Management as well as local and state officials.

“Local officials continue to closely monitor the situation,” Charlottesville police added on Facebook.

The University of Virginia, located in Charlottesville, cancelled all events and programming on the school’s campus.

The rally followed a night of torch-wielding white supremacists clashing with counter-protesters at the University of Virginia. Chants of “You will not replace us!” and “Blood and soil!” were met with shouts of “No Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA!”

Reuters and a number of local reports put the number of protester Friday in the hundreds. The Washington Post reported that the march lasted between 15 and 20 minutes.

At least one person was arrested Friday night and several others treated for minor injuries, according to The Daily Progress. Both sides reported being hit with pepper spray, the newspaper added.

Rep. Don Beyer, D.-Va., tweeted Saturday morning that “white supremacists chanting Nazi slogans aren’t Virginia or America. They are weak, ignorant, fearful people with citronella tiki torches.”

In videos posted to social media from Friday night, the white supremacists can be seen goading their opposition with shouts of “Jews will not replace us” and “white lives matter.”

The display drew condemnation from local and university officials.

“I am deeply saddened and disturbed by the hateful behavior displayed by torch-bearing protesters that marched on our grounds this evening,” University of Virginia President Teresa Sullivan said in a statement. “I strongly condemn the unprovoked assault on members of our community, including university personnel who were attempting to maintain order.”

The violence displayed on the grounds is intolerable and is entirely inconsistent with the university’s values,” Sullivan added.

Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer called the demonstration a “cowardly parade of hatred, bigotry, racism and intolerance.”

He added: “Everyone has a right under the First Amendment to express their opinion peaceably, so here’s mine: Not only as the Mayor of Charlottesville, but as a UVA faculty member and alumnus, I am beyond disgusted by this unsanctioned and despicable display of visual intimidation on a college campus.”

The King Center, founded by civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow, Coretta Scott King, tweeted that “racism never left America.”

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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 05:20:24 AM »
Here is some perspective atm from three people on the right who were there.


https://youtu.be/bfIfywQkxOk


https://youtu.be/4UpF8H1Zjcw


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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 11:34:07 AM »
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In videos posted to social media from Friday night, the white supremacists can be seen goading their opposition with shouts of “Jews will not replace us” and “white lives matter.”

Another version I read in Spanish said that they were chanting "you will not replace us". So I wonder if the phrase was misheard or even maliciously altered by the media? Does anyone know?
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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 12:34:13 PM »
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In videos posted to social media from Friday night, the white supremacists can be seen goading their opposition with shouts of “Jews will not replace us” and “white lives matter.”

Another version I read in Spanish said that they were chanting "you will not replace us". So I wonder if the phrase was misheard or even maliciously altered by the media? Does anyone know?

The only quote I heard from watching some of the footage was a guy yelling "You will not replace me. You'll have to kill me first." The BLM were saying that they will replace them so "you" seems to make more sense.

Someone also mentioned the car involved in the attack had baseball bat marks on its side so I wonder if it was malicious intent or if he panicked when trying to navigate down a street with anitfa. Either way it seems like the madness is only going to get worse.
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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
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In videos posted to social media from Friday night, the white supremacists can be seen goading their opposition with shouts of “Jews will not replace us” and “white lives matter.”

Another version I read in Spanish said that they were chanting "you will not replace us". So I wonder if the phrase was misheard or even maliciously altered by the media? Does anyone know?


Seems to be deliberately spun that way. I only heard "YOU will not replace us". It's kind of ridiculous to suggest that these people would consciously go out in public and shout "Jews will not replace us", then again, the mainstream media is kind of ridiculous these days.
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 08:17:21 PM »
Trump was not wrong when he pointed out:

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What Trump said: - "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," Trump said. "It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump. Not Barack Obama. It's been going on for a long, long time."

Had a listen to the Faith Goldie interview from above, who was there on the scene, and she is not wrong to point out may of the things she did. However, it's always interesting, osit,  that there is such a manufactured feel to these events, the groups in attendance - Antifa etc, the action or non actions of the authorities and even why an obscure reporting group from another country, such as Canada, are right on cue at the scene. Perhaps, not sure, someone in Canada gets the call and says, pack up your gear we are going to Virginia - and that takes time, some planning. This happened before when CBC was suddenly on scene when the nightclub shooting happened; they just happened to be there. So, just speculating out of curiosity with more data to review.

Soros and company on the left and who on the right is orchestrating to maximize effects, might be one question?

Very sad that people were crushed and injured - another who went off to soon or as intended?
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Re: Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 08:32:26 PM »
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In videos posted to social media from Friday night, the white supremacists can be seen goading their opposition with shouts of “Jews will not replace us” and “white lives matter.”

Another version I read in Spanish said that they were chanting "you will not replace us". So I wonder if the phrase was misheard or even maliciously altered by the media? Does anyone know?

Seems to be deliberately spun that way. I only heard "YOU will not replace us". It's kind of ridiculous to suggest that these people would consciously go out in public and shout "Jews will not replace us", then again, the mainstream media is kind of ridiculous these days.

That's also what I heard, "you". I mean a lot of hardcore alt-right racists don't even really hate Israel or Jews, but in fact envy them. Richard Spencer actually even looks up to Israel as how an identitarian nation should be run, which says volumes about their intentions in turning America into a "white" nation in the same way that the Zionists try and turn Palestine into a "jewish" nation.  :shock:
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 08:36:27 PM »
On second thought, to clarify, went I said;

...why an obscure reporting group from another country, such as Canada, are right on cue at the scene.

The Rebel likely tracks and follows potential left/right conflicts, so being ready and on scene might be just following their nose knowing that the likelihood of tensions spilling over would be high.
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 08:42:07 PM »

Ya'll might want to check out today's post on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/laura.knightjadczyk/posts/10155711918799679
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 08:49:20 PM »

Ya'll might want to check out today's post on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/laura.knightjadczyk/posts/10155711918799679

Thanks, had a read and it made sense to me!
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 08:55:31 PM »

Ya'll might want to check out today's post on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/laura.knightjadczyk/posts/10155711918799679

Thanks, had a read and it made sense to me!

One of our French members, Tomek, was talking to me today and describing a conversation he had with someone else and suddenly, when he said one thing, the whole scene just opened up for me and began to make sense in terms of what Cs have said. They have said that the plan is to annihilate those with Semitic genetics... and that Caucasian types are the Nephilim relatives or basis. So, up to the moment when it became clear that pushing the Whites into a corner in order to force them to retaliate - which they always and only ever do with a lot of overkill - was the plan, nothing made sense.  Realizing that it was planned this way made the whole thing clear.
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 09:04:41 PM »

Ya'll might want to check out today's post on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/laura.knightjadczyk/posts/10155711918799679

Wise words! Okay, so the psycho-deep-state-elite want to stir up a civil war, where the Left and Right are fighting each other. Do you mean, that it has been their plan all along?

What do you see as their motive to do this? Is it just the old "create a lot of chaos, and then we will take over" thing? Or, is it more like since their frustrated of the situation, with Trump still hanging around, they want to mess things up, as a revenge or something.

Or, perhaps a combination of many things, and the fact that psychopaths are eeeevil, and just enjoy watching people kill each other.

ADDED: This guy is saying that civil unrest is being staged by agent provocateurs, so that it all can the be blamed on Trump, and then get him removed. Could be one of the reasons...

https://twitter.com/American1765/status/896769590390210560
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 09:35:58 PM »

Ya'll might want to check out today's post on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/laura.knightjadczyk/posts/10155711918799679

Wise words! Okay, so the psycho-deep-state-elite want to stir up a civil war, where the Left and Right are fighting each other. Do you mean, that it has been their plan all along?

At some level, yes, I think so. See what I wrote above.

What do you see as their motive to do this? Is it just the old "create a lot of chaos, and then we will take over" thing? Or, is it more like since their frustrated of the situation, with Trump still hanging around, they want to mess things up, as a revenge or something.

See post above.

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And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget
Falls drop by drop upon the heart,
And in our own despair, against our will,
Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
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Re: Violence at Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 09:41:43 PM »
A bit of an Extreme View, but it does point to the same people funding both sides.

https://youtu.be/c1h8iP1fCYM