Mass Shootings
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Well, I read it. It could be true or not. It still doesn't do much except make Padock the main or sole shooter which limits the investigation and finding any other suspects in the shooting.
c.a.,
At first I wasn't sure why you posted this here until I saw the interviewee is Laura Loomer. It is an excellent attempt at an interview at least. I think George Galloway was really doing a great job trying to get answers from her.
I think this could be cross-posted in some other threads about Israel, Gaza and even the Trump thread.
Hearing Laura Loomer's take on Israel and Gaza does make the Vegas information in aluminmfalcon's link even less credible I think.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mark7. That works much better.
Sorry about the link goyacobol. I was trying to follow the old forum way of putting an underscore before a link so that it wasn't "active". I couldn't achieve that with the new forum so I put spaces in the WWW to deactivate the link.
Thanks Mark7 for correcting the link!
No problem aluminumalcon. Usually, I would have noticed the spaces but since the new forum makes it more difficult to inactivate links by just using an underscore I see why you did it that way. I learned a little about Laura Loomed in the process too.
‘Cameras Off’: New Video Shows Vegas Shooting Strike Team Being Told to Turn Off Body Cams
June 16, 2018
Las Vegas, NV — After being forced to release information on the October 1 massacre, the Las Vegas police department—in an insultingly futile attempt at transparency—has been dumping information related to the shooting. In what appears to be a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters, much of the video released by the department has no time stamps and is provided without context. However, one particularly suspicious set of videos was released Thursday which shows cops being told to turn off their body cameras.
For months, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has been caught lying, railroading journalists, and done everything in their power to keep the facts on what happened on 1 October from ever reaching the public.
The department’s desire to keep the information secret was so overwhelming that they fought its release all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court. Early last month, however, the court rejected the police department’s bid to keep the records secret and they are now forced to hand everything over. Instead of cataloged evidence and detailed reports, however, they’re merely releasing random unlabeled pieces of information.
A large dump of video taken from 28 different body cameras was released this week. According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, most of the videos had no time stamps, but they were taken at some point during the response to Stephen Paddock carrying out the massacre.
Four of the videos in this massive dump of footage show officers who are part of a strike team assembling near the Mandalay Bay Casino. According to the chatter captured on the video, the strike team is prepping to enter the hotel.
“Officers are waiting. They’re waiting,” says a male voice off screen. “Officers are waiting to get in there.”
As police stand in line waiting to enter the hotel, multiple body cameras show a female officer walking down the rows, instructing the officers to turn off their cameras.
“Cameras are off? Cameras off? Cameras are off?” she says.
An officer repeats “Camera is off,” and each video ends.
As the Journal reports, it is not clear when or why the cameras were activated. One video is 18 minutes long, one is 20 minutes, and two others are just over a minute each. It is also unclear why the officers were told to turn their cameras off.
When the Journal reached out to the department to clarify why officers were told to turn off their body cameras, predictably, the department did not answer. However, their body camera policy is public and these videos appear to show them violating it.
According to their body camera policy, once the officer’s camera is activated, it should continue recording unless there is a reasonable exception.
As the Journal reports, exceptions include if the event is “of a sensitive nature,” such as the sexual assault of a child; if the event has concluded prior to an officer’s arrival; or if an officer determines the recording must be stopped, “based on clearly articulable reasons.”
What’s more, and what clearly did not happen in this footage, is that the department policy states, “Officers must state the specific reason(s) they are turning off their cameras before doing so.”
The more information that comes out on the horrific events of that fateful night, the more questions the public has. The uncooperative behavior by the Las Vegas Metropolitan police department is a kick in the teeth to the victims and their families.
As the suspect video below shows, from the very beginning of the shooting, Vegas police were actively engaged in keeping this information from the public. Shameful indeed.
If you’d like to voice your concern about their lack of transparency and overt attempt at covering up the facts as to what happened in Vegas, you can peacefully do so at the department’s Facebook page, here. or, you can call them at(702) 828-3394.
The ordinary heroes of the Oct. 1 Las Vegas shooting
Published on Jun 14, 2018 / 3:24
On Oct. 1, 2017, hundreds of heroes sprung into action in Las Vegas after the Route 91 Harvest festival shooting. Many were police or EMS. Many were ordinary people.
Reports of active shooters during Oct. 1 Las Vegas shooting
Published on Jun 13, 2018 / 2:38
Las Vegas police officers listen to reports of active shooters during their response to the Oct. 1, 2017, shooting at Route 91 Harvest festival near Mandalay Bay. Police body camera footage.
Meanwhile From the "City of Sin": Art Bell Quote
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https://freedomoutpost.com/cameras-off-new-video-shows-vegas-shooting-strike-team-being-told-to-turn-off-body-camsJune 16, 2018
Las Vegas, NV — After being forced to release information on the October 1 massacre, the Las Vegas police department—in an insultingly futile attempt at transparency—has been dumping information related to the shooting. In what appears to be a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters, much of the video released by the department has no time stamps and is provided without context. However, one particularly suspicious set of videos was released Thursday which shows cops being told to turn off their body cameras.
For months, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has been caught lying, railroading journalists, and done everything in their power to keep the facts on what happened on 1 October from ever reaching the public.
The department’s desire to keep the information secret was so overwhelming that they fought its release all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court. Early last month, however, the court rejected the police department’s bid to keep the records secret and they are now forced to hand everything over. Instead of cataloged evidence and detailed reports, however, they’re merely releasing random unlabeled pieces of information.
A large dump of video taken from 28 different body cameras was released this week. According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, most of the videos had no time stamps, but they were taken at some point during the response to Stephen Paddock carrying out the massacre.
Four of the videos in this massive dump of footage show officers who are part of a strike team assembling near the Mandalay Bay Casino. According to the chatter captured on the video, the strike team is prepping to enter the hotel.
“Officers are waiting. They’re waiting,” says a male voice off screen. “Officers are waiting to get in there.”
As police stand in line waiting to enter the hotel, multiple body cameras show a female officer walking down the rows, instructing the officers to turn off their cameras.
“Cameras are off? Cameras off? Cameras are off?” she says.
An officer repeats “Camera is off,” and each video ends.
As the Journal reports, it is not clear when or why the cameras were activated. One video is 18 minutes long, one is 20 minutes, and two others are just over a minute each. It is also unclear why the officers were told to turn their cameras off.
When the Journal reached out to the department to clarify why officers were told to turn off their body cameras, predictably, the department did not answer. However, their body camera policy is public and these videos appear to show them violating it.
According to their body camera policy, once the officer’s camera is activated, it should continue recording unless there is a reasonable exception.
As the Journal reports, exceptions include if the event is “of a sensitive nature,” such as the sexual assault of a child; if the event has concluded prior to an officer’s arrival; or if an officer determines the recording must be stopped, “based on clearly articulable reasons.”
What’s more, and what clearly did not happen in this footage, is that the department policy states, “Officers must state the specific reason(s) they are turning off their cameras before doing so.”
The more information that comes out on the horrific events of that fateful night, the more questions the public has. The uncooperative behavior by the Las Vegas Metropolitan police department is a kick in the teeth to the victims and their families.
As the suspect video below shows, from the very beginning of the shooting, Vegas police were actively engaged in keeping this information from the public. Shameful indeed.
If you’d like to voice your concern about their lack of transparency and overt attempt at covering up the facts as to what happened in Vegas, you can peacefully do so at the department’s Facebook page, here. or, you can call them at
The ordinary heroes of the Oct. 1 Las Vegas shooting
Published on Jun 14, 2018 / 3:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloViv0CYxMOn Oct. 1, 2017, hundreds of heroes sprung into action in Las Vegas after the Route 91 Harvest festival shooting. Many were police or EMS. Many were ordinary people.
Reports of active shooters during Oct. 1 Las Vegas shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXqag4Xf7UPublished on Jun 13, 2018 / 2:38
Las Vegas police officers listen to reports of active shooters during their response to the Oct. 1, 2017, shooting at Route 91 Harvest festival near Mandalay Bay. Police body camera footage.
Meanwhile From the "City of Sin": Art Bell Quote
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Just wanted to make note of this for posterity and encourage people to take care. Despite the Russian govt. claiming that the Moscow event yesterday was an accident, it was clearly deliberate. Obviously the other two were. Seems like there's something "in the air". So keep all eyes open!
Russia taxi crash: Driver smashes into World Cup fans in Moscow - 8 injured
2 injured as woman with box cutter attacks people in French store, reportedly shouts ‘Allahu Akbar’
Suspect dead, 20 injured in New Jersey arts festival shooting
Dutch Police Arrest Suspect in Deadly Van-Ramming Incident at Music Fest (PHOTO)
Five people wounded in Malmö shooting
note: edited to include 2 more events. Between Saturday 16th and Monday 18th.
Russia taxi crash: Driver smashes into World Cup fans in Moscow - 8 injured
2 injured as woman with box cutter attacks people in French store, reportedly shouts ‘Allahu Akbar’
Suspect dead, 20 injured in New Jersey arts festival shooting
Dutch Police Arrest Suspect in Deadly Van-Ramming Incident at Music Fest (PHOTO)
Five people wounded in Malmö shooting
note: edited to include 2 more events. Between Saturday 16th and Monday 18th.
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Я хотел бы высказаться по поводу московского события.
Официально утверждается, что водитель заснул за рулем, однако на записи событие выглядит похожим на преднамеренное действие. Возможно это так и есть, но нужно учесть общую ситуацию с такси в городе. Штат водителей в такси укомплектован выходцами из средней азии (Киргизия, Таджикистан, Узбекистан, несколько меньше Туркмения) на 40-50 процентов. Владельцы таксопарков эксплуатируют их нещадно, люди работают по 16-20 часов. Причем проверки при приеме на работу практически нет. Водители не знают город, пользуются навигаторами, а эти гаджеты не всегда корректно работают. Много случаев, когда с водителем практически невозможно объясниться по причине незнания языка. Есть случаи, когда на работу принимали людей никогда не получавших водительских лицензий. Я много времени каждый день провожу на московских дорогах и ответственно могу сказать, что то что вытворяют на дорогах эти азиаты, это просто ужас. И без всякого терроризма.
Во втором видео водитель, совершивший наезд говорит, что водительскую лицензию он получил 5 лет назад, практически ездил только 2 года и в Москве всего один месяц. Непосредственно перед инцидентом находился за рулем 20 часов, перед этим спал 2-3 часа! Чего от такого можно ожидать?! Событие скорее закономерное, чем случайное. И если здесь и можно говорить о терроризме, то со стороны руководства транспортных организаций и контролирующих органов власти. ИМХО
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I would like to speak about the Moscow event.
It is officially claimed that the driver fell asleep at the wheel, but on the record the event looks like a deliberate action. Perhaps this is the case, but keep in mind the overall situation with cabs in the city. The staff of drivers in a taxi is completed with natives of Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, a little less than Turkmenistan) by 40-50 percent. The owners of taxi parks operate them mercilessly, people work for 16-20 hours. Moreover, there is practically no check when hiring. Drivers do not know the city, use navigators, and these gadgets do not always work correctly. There are many cases when the driver is almost impossible to explain due to lack of knowledge of the language. There are cases when people never received driver's licenses were employed. I spend a lot of time every day on the Moscow roads and responsibly I can tell that what these Asians do on the roads, it's just awful. And without any terrorism.
In the second video, the driver who made the impact says that he received a driver's license 5 years ago, practically driven only 2 years and in Moscow only one month. Just before the incident was driving for 20 hours, before it slept 2-3 hours! What can you expect from this?! The event is more natural than accidental. And if we can talk about terrorism here, then from the leadership of transport organizations and regulatory authorities. IMHO
hitting pedestrians on Ilyinka
The driver-Kirghiz made arrival on the pedestrians on Ilyinka
Официально утверждается, что водитель заснул за рулем, однако на записи событие выглядит похожим на преднамеренное действие. Возможно это так и есть, но нужно учесть общую ситуацию с такси в городе. Штат водителей в такси укомплектован выходцами из средней азии (Киргизия, Таджикистан, Узбекистан, несколько меньше Туркмения) на 40-50 процентов. Владельцы таксопарков эксплуатируют их нещадно, люди работают по 16-20 часов. Причем проверки при приеме на работу практически нет. Водители не знают город, пользуются навигаторами, а эти гаджеты не всегда корректно работают. Много случаев, когда с водителем практически невозможно объясниться по причине незнания языка. Есть случаи, когда на работу принимали людей никогда не получавших водительских лицензий. Я много времени каждый день провожу на московских дорогах и ответственно могу сказать, что то что вытворяют на дорогах эти азиаты, это просто ужас. И без всякого терроризма.
Во втором видео водитель, совершивший наезд говорит, что водительскую лицензию он получил 5 лет назад, практически ездил только 2 года и в Москве всего один месяц. Непосредственно перед инцидентом находился за рулем 20 часов, перед этим спал 2-3 часа! Чего от такого можно ожидать?! Событие скорее закономерное, чем случайное. И если здесь и можно говорить о терроризме, то со стороны руководства транспортных организаций и контролирующих органов власти. ИМХО
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I would like to speak about the Moscow event.
It is officially claimed that the driver fell asleep at the wheel, but on the record the event looks like a deliberate action. Perhaps this is the case, but keep in mind the overall situation with cabs in the city. The staff of drivers in a taxi is completed with natives of Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, a little less than Turkmenistan) by 40-50 percent. The owners of taxi parks operate them mercilessly, people work for 16-20 hours. Moreover, there is practically no check when hiring. Drivers do not know the city, use navigators, and these gadgets do not always work correctly. There are many cases when the driver is almost impossible to explain due to lack of knowledge of the language. There are cases when people never received driver's licenses were employed. I spend a lot of time every day on the Moscow roads and responsibly I can tell that what these Asians do on the roads, it's just awful. And without any terrorism.
In the second video, the driver who made the impact says that he received a driver's license 5 years ago, practically driven only 2 years and in Moscow only one month. Just before the incident was driving for 20 hours, before it slept 2-3 hours! What can you expect from this?! The event is more natural than accidental. And if we can talk about terrorism here, then from the leadership of transport organizations and regulatory authorities. IMHO
hitting pedestrians on Ilyinka
The driver-Kirghiz made arrival on the pedestrians on Ilyinka
Well, unfortunately the statistics of such mass events like the Olympic Games or the World Cup shows that quite often they "coincide" with mass violence, especially if such events are hosted by Russia. The Ukraine coup and the Georgia war are just the two recent examples: both took place during the Olymplics.
Recently Russia has warned of the planned provocations in Syria and/or the Ukraine. And I think it's no accident that Putin's recent comment about possible provocations in Donbass was very straightforward: should such events actually occur during the World Cup, they may have grave consequences for the *statehood* of the Ukraine.
Ditto keep all eyes open.
Recently Russia has warned of the planned provocations in Syria and/or the Ukraine. And I think it's no accident that Putin's recent comment about possible provocations in Donbass was very straightforward: should such events actually occur during the World Cup, they may have grave consequences for the *statehood* of the Ukraine.
Ditto keep all eyes open.
I had sense that something was in the works when I read killerys recent tweet's, and a visit to Baghdad by the Bay.
Coupled with the renewed lies of the Vegas event. FF radar on.
San Francisco 8th graders get a special treat: A visit from Hillary Clinton
Friday, June 15, 2018 05:41PM Video / 01:08 BS
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SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) --
The news of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaking at an eighth-grade graduation in San Francisco was kept hush, hush. But the cheers and applause from the audience who gathered behind the Hamlin School's gates in San Francisco's Pacific Heights neighborhood could be heard all the way down Broadway on Friday morning.
Coupled with the renewed lies of the Vegas event. FF radar on.
San Francisco 8th graders get a special treat: A visit from Hillary Clinton
Friday, June 15, 2018 05:41PM Video / 01:08 BS
Snip:
SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) --
The news of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaking at an eighth-grade graduation in San Francisco was kept hush, hush. But the cheers and applause from the audience who gathered behind the Hamlin School's gates in San Francisco's Pacific Heights neighborhood could be heard all the way down Broadway on Friday morning.
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Indeed Joe! We should keep all eyes opened!
Bus Rams Into Concert Goers in Netherlands, at Least One Killed - Police (PHOTO)
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The Living Force
Updates on the Dutch case:
Pinkpop van crash kills one, hurts three; Suspect & vehicle missing
Arrest made in Pinkpop fatal crash
Suspect in Pinkpop fatal crash turned self in to Amsterdam police
Local man turns himself into Amsterdam police after Pinkpop fatal crash - DutchNews.nl
I also read in Dutch sources that the father of the suspect couldn't believe his son would've driven deliberately into the walking party and thinks "it must have been accidental". Sources (in Dutch): link 1, link 2, link 3.
Pinkpop van crash kills one, hurts three; Suspect & vehicle missing
Arrest made in Pinkpop fatal crash
Suspect in Pinkpop fatal crash turned self in to Amsterdam police
Local man turns himself into Amsterdam police after Pinkpop fatal crash - DutchNews.nl
I also read in Dutch sources that the father of the suspect couldn't believe his son would've driven deliberately into the walking party and thinks "it must have been accidental". Sources (in Dutch): link 1, link 2, link 3.
There is definitely something in the air imo. And the World Cup in Russia just began and I think many dark figures would like to see more of it and then they could also blame Russia again, because they could not "secure the games". This is really mind boggling and better to keep all eyes open.