A comparison of channeled sources

[abeofarrell]

Recently I have been reading the Ra material and also the Law of One material. Although there are many similarities in content with the C readings, I felt there is a big difference in the communication style.

The Ra material almost feels as though it is coming from a robot, or an alien for that matter (which it is, right?). The communication is very rigid and feels almost translated. Kind of reminds me of how the Men in Black (not the movie) were supposedly talking.

The Bringers of the Dawn book is certainly encouraging, but at the same time I feel like the style of communication the source uses is too much like a modern American (too casual maybe?). Does this mean that too much of the channel is coming through in the communications? I guess that is unavoidable as she channeled the source alone, right? I find it hard to accept some of the content too, such as motherships beaming love from around the Earth, etc.

The Cassiopea source however uses very natural communication but at the same time it is formal, even intellectual. It is very believable to me that they are indeed "Us in the Future" as they say as they talk like advanced humans. They are very direct when they need to be and also do not waste time when it is better for the team to research it themselves. The C readings are very readable and contain a good balance of science and esoterica so I always feel that they have served me both mentally and also spiritually.

I am sure this has been discussed countless times, but I just wanted to express my appreciation for the Cassiopea Experiment, both to the Cs themselves and also to the team. Thank you again.

 

[David Topi]

I read an article from Michael Topper (If i remember correctly, in one of the Thunderbird publications) analyzing the strange way that Ra communicated via Carla. It was argued that it was not so the source that was having "problems" with our language (after all, Ra is also a 6D complex memory entity, same as the Cs, and the last ones do not have any problem in using everyday plain English language) but in fact the limitations within Carla, her mental structures or the way she had for working with the kind of concepts Ra was transmitting.


Laura has had some contacts with Carla, so she may know much better why that difference between a seemingly same level of entities transmitting via two human channels. Think also that while Laura and team use a board, Carla was departing her body, in trance, and Ra was channeling directly through her, maybe this accounts for some of the complexity and differences as well.


I have read the Law of One twice in the last years, the first time was very hard, the second time I understood many concepts (I just met the Cs recently so Ra was my primer source for quite a long time), and the third time, which I have just started again with book 1, many concepts seem terribly logical and easy (but after having read Laura's book and countless others recommendations).


I have the feeling you need to take it easy with Ra if it is the first time you read the books, same with Michael Topper, they are no light weights in the metaphysical literature!

 

[David Topi]

and btw! now that I am rereading the first book of the Law of One, in the intro they quote several transmissions of an entity names Hatonn. This forum showed several results implying that it is more non-sense and another new-age-asthar-command figure, however, the couple of transmissions quoted in the book intro appear to have a good level of information explaining pretty much the same that Ra explains later about the harvest, jump to 4D, cosmic changes, etc.


Wonder if that entity did a few "good" channelings and then was corrupted or it just happen that the book quotes only the few excerpts that pretty much make sense?




pd I was trying to quote the text, but I do not know how to copy-paste it from kindle!

 

[Palinurus]

Hi to both of you,

Just in case you wouldn't be aware of it, the following topic gives an overview of evaluations of channeled sources:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14234.0

As to the Ra material specifically, the following numbers from that list are important:

#13 part 1: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3886.0
#13 part 2: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3977.0
#20: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7490.0.html

Other materials here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cassiopaeans_ra_wanderers.htm
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,6873.0.html

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[Psalehesost]

I read an article from Michael Topper (If i remember correctly, in one of the Thunderbird publications) analyzing the strange way that Ra communicated via Carla. It was argued that it was not so the source that was having "problems" with our language (after all, Ra is also a 6D complex memory entity, same as the Cs, and the last ones do not have any problem in using everyday plain English language) but in fact the limitations within Carla, her mental structures or the way she had for working with the kind of concepts Ra was transmitting.

This part of The Wave addresses the question in the same way: http://cassiopaea.org/2010/05/12/the-wave-chapter-10-the-truth-is-out-there-but-trust-no-one/

and btw! now that I am rereading the first book of the Law of One, in the intro they quote several transmissions of an entity names Hatonn. [...] Wonder if that entity did a few "good" channelings and then was corrupted or it just happen that the book quotes only the few excerpts that pretty much make sense?

Another possibility, because the name does not equal the entity: Any entity (of a kind below 6D) can jump into a modern-day uncritical channeler and claim to be anyone or anything, including any other channeled entity.

Regarding early Hatonn (and other entities communicated with by them at that time) sessions: I read through some of the pre-Ra sessions (as available here: _http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/transcripts_toc_year.aspx ) before, and the quality is very variable, much of the content being on the fluffy side. If you filter out the fluff, you can find some good bits and pieces in there - at the cost of wading through a lot of text of little use.

In short, on the whole it's "mostly harmless". However, the very first session (which happens to be one with Hatonn - as in Hatonn the original from the 70s) is pretty good and, I think, at least read-worthy. It concerns the lack of maturity of humanity, and the true meaning of maturity. It was channeled through Don.

 

[jhonny]

Recently I have been reading the Ra material and also the Law of One material. Although there are many similarities in content with the C readings, I felt there is a big difference in the communication style.

The Ra material almost feels as though it is coming from a robot, or an alien for that matter (which it is, right?). The communication is very rigid and feels almost translated. Kind of reminds me of how the Men in Black (not the movie) were supposedly talking.

The Bringers of the Dawn book is certainly encouraging, but at the same time I feel like the style of communication the source uses is too much like a modern American (too casual maybe?). Does this mean that too much of the channel is coming through in the communications? I guess that is unavoidable as she channeled the source alone, right? I find it hard to accept some of the content too, such as motherships beaming love from around the Earth, etc.

The Cassiopea source however uses very natural communication but at the same time it is formal, even intellectual. It is very believable to me that they are indeed "Us in the Future" as they say as they talk like advanced humans. They are very direct when they need to be and also do not waste time when it is better for the team to research it themselves. The C readings are very readable and contain a good balance of science and esoterica so I always feel that they have served me both mentally and also spiritually.

I am sure this has been discussed countless times, but I just wanted to express my appreciation for the Cassiopea Experiment, both to the Cs themselves and also to the team. Thank you again.

From what I have understood, in these type of communication(superluminal), clarity of communication depends on the receiver, perhaps, that's why there is misinterpretation and the subsequent transmission of the message.

 

[truth seeker]

From what I have understood, in these type of communication(superluminal), clarity of communication depends on the receiver, perhaps, that's why there is misinterpretation and the subsequent transmission of the message.

Yes, my current understanding is that it all really depends upon how 'clean' the individual is (have they faced their own programming and are they free of attachments, how objective they are in order to receive as little noise as possible and the specific method used. As always, I could be off.

 

[abeofarrell]

Lots of links to follow up on, thank you for the information, I appreciate it.

 

[Nienna]

I found the LL research forum before I found Laura and the Cs. Read the books and then started reading their sessions. They had several people channeling during the course of those contacts and I found the channelings entertaining, but soon became bored and suspicious since most of the later channelings were about personal questions that I thought were a waste of time.

Then, I found Laura's site by searching for a Ra study group. I wanted to get to someone that could help me learn about the truth of what was going on in the world, etc. And, as I said, I came upon Laura's site. The difference in the communications were vast and I decided that Laura and Cs were going to teach me things, whereas the channelings being done by the Ra group were not. So I never looked back.


Added: Just want to clarify that by the session I started reading, I mean the ones by Hador and all of the other "entities". Also, after reading Laura's material with the Cs, I found it interesting how all of these other supposedly STO beings were interfering with things going on on the planet. Not very STO, but then, maybe 4D still does that. But I remember one instance where they were tampering with someone's mind or something along those lines. It's been years since I read that stuff so I've forgotten some of the essentials. Still, it gave me a bad feeling about them.

 

[abeofarrell]

This part of The Wave addresses the question in the same way: http://cassiopaea.org/2010/05/12/the-wave-chapter-10-the-truth-is-out-there-but-trust-no-one/

The channeled quotes in this Wave chapter clearly show what I was trying to say. This chapter contains possibly the best two 1-liners in channeled history:

"Q: (L) Why is that irrelevant? Is it because when a higher density being looks at us they know what they are looking at?
A: Yes. They know and understand the separations of your minds quite precisely. That would be like saying “when a human looks at a rodent, they notice that they are excessively furry.”"

"A: Any one seeking this can accomplish it. Do you really believe the “Zetas” would expend energy warning humans about impending earth changes?
Q: (L) Well, if they wanted humans to perceive the gray aliens as the good guys they would! That’s what occurs to me when I think about it.
A: How much energy do you expend warning squirrels about fires?
Q: (L) Okay, point taken. None."

In the C work I see clear evidence of a sense of humor (used for a constructive aim) and also a great deal of empathy. They are straight to the point and pull no punches when it comes to reality, but they also empathize with our difficulty in accepting things and are patient. Many channeled sources (or maybe it is just the channel rather than the source) take themselves way too seriously. By this I mean that they do not know how to be balanced about how to put people at ease while at the same time holding them accountable to knowledge and making them face reality.

So the Cassiopaeans have succeeded at bursting my bubbles but not in a way that is damaging to my psyche. I am always encouraged in my source for knowledge rather than just an obsession with the channeled data. To me this is clear evidence that the channeled source is legitimate.

As always, thank you.