suelarue
Jedi Master
I was just reading The Wave series on Cassipaea.org (Chapter XXXIII Torah, Kaballah and When I Dream...) and came upon the section talking about the black sun.
Q: (L) Among the things that were discussed among the Germans in the Thule Society and the Vril Society, was the "Black Sun That Illuminates the Interior." Can you tell us what this "Black Sun" is?
A: Ultimate destiny of STS orientation.
Q: (L) Is this Black Sun an actual astronomical phenomenon?
A: In essence.
Q: (L) What would we know this Black Sun as? A black hole?
A: Good possibility.
I couldn't help but think of the song titled "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden which came out in 1994. Take a look at the lyrics:
In my eyes,
Indisposed,
In disguise
As no one knows.
Hides the face,
Lies the snake,
And the sun
In my disgrace.
Boiling heat,
Summer stench.
'Neath the black
The sky looks dead.
Call my name
Through the cream,
And I'll hear you
Scream again.
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
Stuttering,
Cold and damp,
Steal the warm wind
Tired friend.
Times are gone
For honest men
And sometimes,
Far too long
For snakes.
In my shoes,
A walking sleep,
And my youth
I pray to keep.
Heaven send Hell away,
No one
Sings like you anymore.
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
(Repeat)
Black hole sun
Black hole sun
Won't you come?
(Repeat x3)
Black hole sun
Black hole sun
Hang my head,
Drown my fear,
Till you all just
Disappear...
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
(Repeat x2)
Black hole sun,
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
(Repeat x6)
Won't you come?
What I find even more interesting is the description Chris Cornell (lead singer and writer of Soundgarden) gave about writing the song which can be found on Wikipedia at the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Sun
Origin and recording:
"Black Hole Sun" was written by frontman Chris Cornell. Cornell said that he wrote the song in about 15 minutes.[1] He used a Gretsch guitar to write the song, and commented, "I wrote the song thinking the band wouldn't like it—then it became the biggest hit of the summer."[2] Cornell came up with the song while using a Leslie speaker. Guitarist Kim Thayil said that the Leslie speaker was perfect for the song as "it's very Beatlesque and has a distinctive sound. It ended up changing the song completely."[3] The song was performed in drop D tuning. Drummer Matt Cameron called the song "a huge departure."[4]
[edit]Lyrics
Regarding "Black Hole Sun", Cornell stated, "It's just sort of a surreal dreamscape, a weird, play-with-the-title kind of song."[5] He also said that "lyrically it's probably the closest to me just playing with words for words' sake, of anything I've written. I guess it worked for a lot of people who heard it, but I have no idea how you'd begin to take that one literally."[6] In another interview he elaborated further, stating, "It's funny because hits are usually sort of congruent, sort of an identifiable lyric idea, and that song pretty much had none. The chorus lyric is kind of beautiful and easy to remember. Other than that, I sure didn't have an understanding of it after I wrote it. I was just sucked in by the music and I was painting a picture with the lyrics. There was no real idea to get across."[4] Commenting upon how the song was misinterpreted as being positive, Cornell said, "No one seems to get this, but "Black Hole Sun" is sad. But because the melody is really pretty, everyone thinks it's almost chipper, which is ridiculous."[7] When asked about the line, "Times are gone for honest men," Cornell said:
It's really difficult for a person to create their own life and their own freedom. It's going to become more and more difficult, and it's going to create more and more disillusioned people who become dishonest and angry and are willing to -flick- the next guy to get what they want. There's so much stepping on the backs of other people in our profession. We've been so lucky that we've never had to do that. Part of it was because of our own tenacity, and part of it was because we were lucky.[8]
I find it so interesting that the song came to him so quickly and also the references to snakes, that times are gone for honest men and the asking of heaven to wash away hell.
And how crazy (or twisted) is it that this song was covered by Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gormé who did a JAZZ version of this song on the 1997 compilation album, Lounge-A-Palooza and Paul Anka gave "Black Hole Sun" a SWING treatment on his 2005 album, Rock Swings??!!
Anyway, back to "hitting the books"! I'd be interested to know what you guys think.
Suzanne
Q: (L) Among the things that were discussed among the Germans in the Thule Society and the Vril Society, was the "Black Sun That Illuminates the Interior." Can you tell us what this "Black Sun" is?
A: Ultimate destiny of STS orientation.
Q: (L) Is this Black Sun an actual astronomical phenomenon?
A: In essence.
Q: (L) What would we know this Black Sun as? A black hole?
A: Good possibility.
I couldn't help but think of the song titled "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden which came out in 1994. Take a look at the lyrics:
In my eyes,
Indisposed,
In disguise
As no one knows.
Hides the face,
Lies the snake,
And the sun
In my disgrace.
Boiling heat,
Summer stench.
'Neath the black
The sky looks dead.
Call my name
Through the cream,
And I'll hear you
Scream again.
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
Stuttering,
Cold and damp,
Steal the warm wind
Tired friend.
Times are gone
For honest men
And sometimes,
Far too long
For snakes.
In my shoes,
A walking sleep,
And my youth
I pray to keep.
Heaven send Hell away,
No one
Sings like you anymore.
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
(Repeat)
Black hole sun
Black hole sun
Won't you come?
(Repeat x3)
Black hole sun
Black hole sun
Hang my head,
Drown my fear,
Till you all just
Disappear...
Black hole sun,
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
Won't you come?
(Repeat x2)
Black hole sun,
Black hole sun,
Won't you come?
(Repeat x6)
Won't you come?
What I find even more interesting is the description Chris Cornell (lead singer and writer of Soundgarden) gave about writing the song which can be found on Wikipedia at the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Sun
Origin and recording:
"Black Hole Sun" was written by frontman Chris Cornell. Cornell said that he wrote the song in about 15 minutes.[1] He used a Gretsch guitar to write the song, and commented, "I wrote the song thinking the band wouldn't like it—then it became the biggest hit of the summer."[2] Cornell came up with the song while using a Leslie speaker. Guitarist Kim Thayil said that the Leslie speaker was perfect for the song as "it's very Beatlesque and has a distinctive sound. It ended up changing the song completely."[3] The song was performed in drop D tuning. Drummer Matt Cameron called the song "a huge departure."[4]
[edit]Lyrics
Regarding "Black Hole Sun", Cornell stated, "It's just sort of a surreal dreamscape, a weird, play-with-the-title kind of song."[5] He also said that "lyrically it's probably the closest to me just playing with words for words' sake, of anything I've written. I guess it worked for a lot of people who heard it, but I have no idea how you'd begin to take that one literally."[6] In another interview he elaborated further, stating, "It's funny because hits are usually sort of congruent, sort of an identifiable lyric idea, and that song pretty much had none. The chorus lyric is kind of beautiful and easy to remember. Other than that, I sure didn't have an understanding of it after I wrote it. I was just sucked in by the music and I was painting a picture with the lyrics. There was no real idea to get across."[4] Commenting upon how the song was misinterpreted as being positive, Cornell said, "No one seems to get this, but "Black Hole Sun" is sad. But because the melody is really pretty, everyone thinks it's almost chipper, which is ridiculous."[7] When asked about the line, "Times are gone for honest men," Cornell said:
It's really difficult for a person to create their own life and their own freedom. It's going to become more and more difficult, and it's going to create more and more disillusioned people who become dishonest and angry and are willing to -flick- the next guy to get what they want. There's so much stepping on the backs of other people in our profession. We've been so lucky that we've never had to do that. Part of it was because of our own tenacity, and part of it was because we were lucky.[8]
I find it so interesting that the song came to him so quickly and also the references to snakes, that times are gone for honest men and the asking of heaven to wash away hell.
And how crazy (or twisted) is it that this song was covered by Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gormé who did a JAZZ version of this song on the 1997 compilation album, Lounge-A-Palooza and Paul Anka gave "Black Hole Sun" a SWING treatment on his 2005 album, Rock Swings??!!
Anyway, back to "hitting the books"! I'd be interested to know what you guys think.
Suzanne