Ongoing Events in China

Chinese leader Xi Jinping has called on his top security officials to prepare for actual combat.

31 May, 2023

'The war with the US is inevitable.'

From the article:
China cut off defense and climate ties with Washington last August over alleged meddling by US officials in Taiwan. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning demanded on Wednesday that the US stop flying spy planes over the South China Sea, calling the flights “dangerous provocations.” Her statement came one day after the US Indo-Pacific Command accused a Chinese pilot of causing a near-collision by buzzing his fighter jet in front of an American reconnaissance plane in international airspace above the South China Sea.

If this is just a continuation over Taiwan then one might expect such reactions and staging in my opinion.

Session 14 January 2023:
Q: (Regulattor) How possible is a direct confrontation between the U.S. and China in the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan?

A: There might be a kerfuffle, but it will be quickly quelled.

The U.S. is already feeling the "rude and painful awakening" and will probably continue to react as a "kerfuffled" bunch of "woke" idiots unless more of the population here stop believing lies and programming.

Session 30 August 2014:
(Alada) Well, China is so big, but it's so relatively quiet...

A: Still waters run deep and strong. The USA and allies are in for a rude and painful awakening.

Q: (Perceval) All that’s going on are hollow threats and blustering, and it has no effect. Which means the people they're directing it at are not threatened because they know that it's hollow. They know they can pull the rug out from under the US empire's feet whenever they want, really. The US has become so dependent on China.
 
'France does not want NATO to be dragged into war with China.'

6 Jun, 2023

By Svetlana Ekimenko - 3 hours ago
 
T.C. said:
First off, @Novelis, if your opening salvo in a debate is to attack the sentence structures of the person you want to disagree with, then that should make you stop and think about where you’re coming from and why.

There was no salvo, no attack, and no debate here, T.C. (as far as intentions go), the grammatical error that I pointed out above lead to an ambiguity in terms of meaning, and that was the reason why it was brought up – to give Chad the opportunity to clarify his meaning. If you noticed, Chad also made the mistake of failing to capitalise his ‘i’ here:

Chad said:
If i'm understanding the above correctly

…but I didn’t mention it, since the meaning, despite being another example of "poor sentence structure", was not ambiguous, and could not be misconstrued in any shape or form.

Perhaps my tone was not appropriate, or I could’ve been less crude, but I hope you can see that my intentions were not as they appeared to you.

As for where I was coming from, there was emotionalism there, for sure, but most of it stemming from dismay and surprise that this forum, this Network that I have loved, trusted and cherished for almost 20 years at this point, could’ve possibly let a statement like “poverty in China has been eradicated” slip by unchallenged.

Can you imagine if anyone had made such a claim about the US, how unchallenged that would’ve gone?

As for this:

SOTTREADER said:
@Novelis appears to have some interesting points though there's a strong anti-CCP bias I presume because your wife is from Taiwan.

Actually, I am “anti” ANYBODY who is actively engaged in concealing the light of truth, including articles like this one (which I read a while ago):


…from reaching the Chinese people, and, as a matter of fact, from reaching people in general. Now, if you say that the CCP are fighting with all their might to educate, enlighten and encourage the Chinese peoples’ thirst for the truth then by all means, enlighten me, but if not, then let me remind you that whatever the justifications might be, the door swings both ways with regards to the US.

To me, it’s not the relative “vicinity to Hell” of the US and Chinese governments (or any government) that’s important, since the US makes almost everybody look fairly decent by comparison (which might be intentional, I suspect, in some dark corners of my thoughts), but the “angle of approach”, how both seem to be de facto totalitarian states, but one is a covert one that's seeking more and more overt-ness, whereas the other is an overt one that’s incrementally tending towards covert-ness.

Is it ignorant/overly paranoid of me to suspect that, at some level, both are working towards the same goal, and are learning how to do so from observing each other in real time, using “catalysts” like Covid on the international scale to observe how things unfold? Haven’t both the US Govt. and the CCP gained more of a footing in their respective positions thanks to Covid? I’m going far afield in terms of theory and speculation, I know, but that’s how it appears to me for now, and that’s why I’m here, after all, aiming to learn how and why I might be wrong.
 
"Political analyst, historian, and host of Silk and Steel Podcast. @CarlZha joined me to discuss Chinese foreign policy toward the US, Russia/Ukraine, Taiwan & the Middle East".


Many people have wrongly assumed that political freedom would follow new economic freedoms in China and that its economic growth would have to be built on the same foundations as in the West.

The authors suggest that those assumptions are rooted in three essentially false beliefs about modern China:

(1) Economics and democracy are two sides of the same coin;

(2) authoritarian political systems can’t be legitimate; and

(3) the Chinese live, work, and invest like Westerners. But at every point since 1949 the Chinese Communist Party—central to the institutions, society, and daily experiences that shape all Chinese people—has stressed the importance of Chinese history and of Marxist-Leninist doctrine. Until Western companies and politicians understand this and revise their views, they will continue to get China wrong.
 
US is not the only superpower anymore, the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said.

22 Jul, 2023
[...]
Such a development would certainly not sit well with Washington, which will want to remain “on top of the world” forever, Orban warned. He said attempts to challenge existing hegemony had led to major conflict on multiple occasions in human history. “There are no eternal winners and eternal losers,” he added.
Does this mean that Rothschilds' business is secured and they are "eternal winners"?'

By Nicholas Moore - 2018-02-28
 
I haven't seen a direct recording of the speech yet, but everything this person says is important a priori.
"From Lisbon to Vladivostok" via Beijing. Putin spoke at the "One Belt, One Road" forum
Russia and China have the same vision of the situation in a world that will never be unipolar again In Beijing, the opening of the III International Forum "One Belt, One Road" took place at the People's Assembly House on Tiananmen Square.

According to a number of media reports, Chinese President Xi Jinping delivered a welcoming speech to the heads of delegations, participants of the initiative and guests of the forum.

He stated that humanity as a whole unites the destinies of all people and that when everything is good in the world, then China is good, and when it is good in China, then the world is even better. According to him, rapidly developing countries should help those who lag behind them, they need to support each other, help and respect.

Immediately after Xi Jinping, Putin addressed the forum participants. According to him, the initiative "One Belt, One Road", put forward by the President of the People's Republic of China, is oriented towards the future and "aims to form a more just multipolar world."

Putin noted that Russia and China, like most states, share the desire for equal and mutually beneficial cooperation for progress and social well-being "while respecting the diversity of civilization and the right of each state to its own development model." The "One Belt, One Road" initiative, which is based on such principles, makes it possible to create an "integration circuit" where freedom of trade, investment, labor and interconnected infrastructure are ensured.

Vladimir Putin stressed that the initiative of the leader of the People's Republic of China is consonant with the initiative put forward by Russia on the formation of a large Eurasian partnership, where various integration initiatives can be combined: "One Belt, One Road", the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and the Eurasian Economic Union.

Putin told what Russia is doing to create an interconnected infrastructure, given that it is the largest country in the world in terms of its territory, and, accordingly, the connection of countries through it plays a big role.

— An international North–South corridor is being formed in Russia, linking Russian ports in the Baltic and Arctic with ports on the coast of the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean.

— One transport meridian from north to south will pass through the Ural region of Russia and Siberia. Its key element is the modernization of the central section of the Trans—Siberian Railway, including the West Siberian Railway in several regions of Russia.

— Russia is working with foreign partners on laying railway routes from Central Siberia to China, Mongolia, ports of the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

— The Russian Federation invites interested states to participate in the development of the Northern Sea Route. Transport corridors from north to south open up the possibility of directly connecting the Northern Sea Route with major logistics hubs in the south of Eurasia.

— Russia, within the framework of BRICS, has taken the initiative to establish a permanent commission on transport logistics.

Concluding his speech, Putin wished China success in implementing plans for the "One Belt– One Road" initiative.

"In his speech at the launch of the third One Belt, One Road forum, Vladimir Putin said that this Chinese initiative is in tune with Russian ideas about the formation of a large Eurasian space, where various integration processes will be intertwined. First of all, the President of the Russian Federation meant by itself the EAEU — the Eurasian Economic Union. Which will be much more profitable to participate in the Chinese project precisely as an organized community.

But Putin's thought is much deeper. The EU will inevitably string itself to the string of the belt-way sooner or later, when the realities force this formation to come to its senses. By the way, Orban's presence is an indicator of such a predetermined future.

Thus, the old idea of de Gaulle about Europe from Brest (French) to the Urals is waiting for another renaissance. This time in the development of the formula "from Lisbon to Vladivostok". But now through Beijing," the Temnik TV channel commented on Putin's speech.

After the opening ceremony of the forum, the leaders of Russia and China held bilateral talks.
«От Лиссабона до Владивостока» через Пекин. Путин выступил на форуме «Один пояс – один путь»
 
A lot of truth spoken by Wang Huning here which gives some background to the lead up to what we see now in the USA. What he says isn't new as the observation that Americans are overly obsessed with consumerism has been a major criticism for many years.



The life of the average American has been fairly comfortable and without threat allowing them to become more superficial in how they spend their time and real values are there but in a subliminal state. From what I see, this is all changing now for a growing number of people since that way of life is being destroyed. The evil overtaking the country is having the effect of bringing those important values right to the surface and making people defend and fight for those values of family, faith and freedom. These things never went away but where just taken for granted in a significant way.

The majority of MAGA people are Christian conservatives and the convictions that faith entails are obvious to anyone following that movement. The country was founded upon these principles at its best and is another "subliminal" current rising to the surface. The USA was invaded long ago and as is the practice of the dark ones, the people where kept in the dark of that take over. The USA hasn't been a Constitutional Republic for a very long time and the purposeful decay has been growing all the while.

The C's say the USA is to far gone to be saved. Looking at that in a more hopeful way, perhaps the seriously corrupted state its become will be destroyed and a new US will be built upon the values of its original intentions. We don't know but I do know there's a lot of praying going on and asking for help.

I will ALWAYS defend my people from any source that belittles them. As I've said here in the past, there are a lot of good people in the US and they aren't the enemy, we all share that enemy in common, world wide.

But, its going to take a more substantial shock to kick all these people into action....its coming.

as the cass said "greed is a sickness". the us translate EVERYTHING into money...
 
is putin our new general de gaulle? i would welcome it...
If he is de Gaulle, then he is in development. De Gaulle, I remember, spoke about "from Brest to the Urals", it's already noticeably wider here.

Если он и де Голль, то в развитии. У де Голля, помнится, было от Бреста до Урала, тут уже ощутимо пошире.
 
If he is de Gaulle, then he is in development. De Gaulle, I remember, spoke about "from Brest to the Urals", it's already noticeably wider here.

Если он и де Голль, то в развитии. У де Голля, помнится, было от Бреста до Урала, тут уже ощутимо пошире.

yes, de gaulle said "de l'atlantique jusqu'a l'oural"...he is my only favourite politician, because he did not want to be politician but a writer.
 
The Australian Institute of International Affairs is mostly a basket case of hysterical geopolitical hallucination at this point, but occasionally they propose something that piques interest. In this case, it was a lecture called Chinese Style Modernisation: Promoting Chinese Morality and Civilisation as Alternatives to Western Liberalism.

AIIA said:
Over the last decade China has proposed both a model of ‘Chinese-style governance’ and more recently at the 20th Party Congress in late 2022, ‘Chinese-style modernisation’. Chinese-style modernisation carries the claim that China has created a ‘new form of human civilisation’. It contains a number of discursive similarities to Chinese-style governance that centre around the idea that Chinese (including Confucian, revolutionary and advanced socialist) governance thinking can reshape society by moulding the behaviour of its citizens. This workshop explores points of intersection and divergence between Chinese-style governance and Chinese-style modernisation. It examines two main questions:
  • What is the nature of Chinese-style moral governance and Chinese-style modernisation?
  • How do they initiate new conceptions of state and citizen as ideological and ‘civilisational’ alternatives to modern liberal democracy?
Of course, digging a little deeper into the speaker schedule, we get a slightly more comprehensive picture of where this is going:

AIIA said:
The Culturalisation of Governance Under Xi Jinping

Ideological terms such as ‘spiritual civilisation’ and ‘rule by moral virtue’ have been part of the Chinese Communist Party’s moral governance repertoire since the 1980s. But moral governance under Xi Jinping today has taken a more ‘comprehensive’ turn; indeed, comprehensiveness is what Xi intends to achieve by embedding moral governance into the Party’s overall social governance design. Here, moral governance plays a central part of a wider program of Chinese-style social governance first introduced at the 18th Party Congress in 2013, which seeks to ‘modernise national governance ’and ‘enhance governance capacity’.

This paper looks at three ways in which the Party is currently making moral governance increasingly central to its comprehensive governance ambitions. First the Party is institutionalising moral governance programs into municipal and rural social governance plans. Second, it is creating spaces for civil society volunteers to participate in the governance of their peers and third, it is bolstering the Xi Jinping era ‘discourse power’ of China style governance by basing the Party’s legitimacy increasingly on civilizational discourse in an effort to dominate the discursive space of ‘values’ and restrict the spread of alternative (western) values.
Here we see the postmodern geopolitical perspective of 'narrative wars' between countries and attempts to dominate the 'discursive space of values' in order to maintain that political authority's own 'legitimacy'; ie. there is no inherently "legitimate" government, just power politics and structures that vie with each other for whose ideology/values can accrue the most influence, thus dominating land, natural resources and people through the minds of those that possess them.

AIIA said:
The Road to Moral Unfreedom

One of the key developments in social governance in the Xi era has been the ramped-up role that state-sanctioned ‘socialist’ moral codes—such as patriotism—plays in the shaping of theory and practice of law and justice. This new development works hand in glove with an intensified anti-West discourse. We suggest that the Chinese Communist Party’s obsession with anti-Westernism in ideology essentially derives from a rejection of individualism as a philosophical option and fear of the return and popularisation of individualism (which does have its roots in China’s own philosophical tradition) brought by increased economic freedom and social mobility. As moral judgement prevails, self-worth is obliterated and personal freedom to pursue one’s own conceptions of the good diminishes, which in turn damages respect and self-respect in social relations.
After the establishment of a "Clash of Civilizations" pseudo-context, the next speaker apparently wishes to expound on China's 'slide into authoritarianism' as due to an obsessive anti-Western ideology brought about by a fear of individualism, especially that lurking seed of individualism in China's own indigenous philosophies! Can't the Chinese people see that such a course of action will lead to a destruction of social relations and subsumation into a Borg-like cultural collective? (Western projection to the max here, or what!?) In reality, the CCP's "obsession with anti-Westernism" is rather an obsession with prophylactic measures against ponerogenic western cultural 'innovations' like the LGB and 'gender fluidity' agendas and Race Marxism.

AIIA said:
“There is great order under heaven; the situation is excellent”

Mao Zedong, driving the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution: “There is great disorder under heaven; the situation is excellent.” In contrast for Xi Jinping, his family banished from the Zhongnanhai Eden during that chaos but now seeking full redemption from Mao's spirit by rejuvenating the Party, only order matters. He embodies his own Thought’s “Chinese Characteristics,” which essentially comprise locking eyes with him and following his orders as he strips back now-redundant layers of government to enable his complaisant Party to rule directly. The resulting infantilising of decision-making causes a swingeing[sp] between hierarchic immobilism and bursts of radical reconstruction, as the Emperor – no longer far away, with mountains being razed– lours over all in this sacerdotal New Era during which struggle offers a welcome opportunity for sacrifice such as Xi’s own family made earlier, and eating bitterness enables all to dedicate themselves humbly to the Party’s apotheosis.
And where would the new Borg Empire be without its Emperor! Clothed in golden robes like Supreme Leader Snoke from The Last Jedi, Xi Jinping taps into his former incarnation as Mao Zedong, locks his hypnotic gaze on his billions of infantile imperial subjects, stretches out his hand and demands that they "give him everything". The level of western projection here is off the charts.

AIIA said:
Production and Global Dissemination of Chinese Legal Ideology

The leaders and ideologues of the Chinese Communist Party profess an interest in increasing the impact of Chinese social sciences and governance ideology in foreign countries. On its face, this project amounts to an ambitious, even radical, ideological challenge against liberal legal thought. Nevertheless, these attempts can also be seen to highlight various challenges that illiberal regimes face in the production and global advocacy of governance ideology. First, the domestic priorities of illiberal ideological speech may not support ideological advocacy in foreign contexts. Second, characteristically illiberal argumentative strategies may be less effective in front of foreign audiences than they are domestically. Third, illiberal ideological sensitivities may impair, or make unavailable, certain advocacy strategies, which could be effective in front of foreign audiences. Despite such challenges, Chinese ideological speech has had effects in foreign contexts. Among other things, Chinese ideological advocacy has made it easier for foreign politicians and legal scholars to criticize Western promotion of the rule of law and human rights.
Having established "great order under heaven" at home, the Emperor has turned his gaze to the world beyond his empire's borders, and the catapults have begun hurling the propaganda across thousands of miles, into the very heart of the judicial structures and policy think-tanks upon which the "rules-based international order" is allegedly founded, safeguarding the world's most precious treasures: freedom and democracy! And, *shock, horror*, the 'propaganda' appears to be working!!! Foreign politicians and legal scholars are now actually beginning to think that the west's promotion of the rule of law and human rights is just an ideological mask for hegemonic domination! How would they ever have been able to come to those conclusions if not for those 'damn chinky-chinks'!

AIIA said:
Chinese-style Modernisation: Civilisation as Soulcraft in Contemporary China

Chinese-style Modernisation is distinguished by its recent emphasis on ‘spiritual civilisation’. The paper examines prominent contemporary initiatives, such as socialism with Chinese characteristics, China Dream and Tianxia to explore the nature of this ‘new’ civilisation and evaluate the extent to which it represents a credible alternative to the universalism of contemporary liberal democracy. The core argument of the paper is that these civilisational approaches do provide a form of soulcraft, but to the extent that they are either too general, or too distinctly Chinese, or indeed implicitly recall an older conception of Chinese empire, they will not represent a viable alternative model to replace liberal democracy. Nevertheless, these civilisational claims are significant in two important ways. They will be theoretically influential by their corrosive effect on liberal universalism and the institutions founded on its principles. More ambitiously, they seek to demonstrate the insufficiency of ‘performance’ legitimacy for modern states. Chinese modernity with its civilisational claims therefore represents a lesson for ‘smart’ authoritarian regimes on why they should be proud of their own cultural and ideological heritage and how they can combine technological advances with their unique religious, nationalistic or ethnic principles to fashion distinctive modern ideologies that can resist the challenges of modern liberal democracy.
This is actually a little more interesting.

"Chinese modernity with its civilisational claims therefore represents a lesson for ‘smart’ authoritarian regimes on why they should be proud of their own cultural and ideological heritage and how they can combine technological advances with their unique religious, nationalistic or ethnic principles to fashion distinctive modern ideologies that can resist the challenges of modern liberal democracy."

Are we seeing here a suggestion that the social engineering agendas in the west regarding materialism, anti-religion, open borders, ethnic dilution, postmodern anti-philosophy, gender fluidity et al. are now completely past the point of usefulness to the elites, and a strong rebuilding of a techno-religious-nationalist-ethnic ideology with sufficient cultural gravitas is required, asap, lest the PTB quite literally lose influence over the souls of their populations?

In the context of the situation in the Middle East, this is even more interesting, because it provides a potential window into why there has been so much effort on the part of of the west to 'prop up' Israel as a political entity: Israeli culture does represent a particular sort of such an experiment in "modern ideology", one that is no doubt intended for use as a 'template' for other western cultures should the experiment not end in failure.

Yet, it seems that the "4/10 Club" haven't done a particularly good job regarding their pivot from one phase of the 'plan' to the next. If Israel ends up going down the same path as Ukraine... it's all over for the empire, for good.

And as for China? It appears that all they need to do is keep on keeping on.
 
I admit that I did not follow the events in the Philippines at all and was surprised to learn that Marcos was back in power there. What a noisy epic it was at one time with the elder Marcos. I wonder if they will overthrow the new one too and try to put him in prison?
There was a skirmish between Chinese and Filipino ships in the South China Sea
There was a skirmish in the South China Sea between a Chinese Coast Guard ship and Philippine vessels. The Chinese vessel used water cannons against the Filipinos, who were delivering food to the Sierra Madre ship, used by the Philippines as a garrison. The incident has caused concern in the Philippines, which considers China's actions to be aggression, while the PRC claims that almost the entire sea area belongs to them and violates their territorial rights.

The situation in the region is heating up due to recent political changes in the Philippines. With the coming to power of Ferdinand Marcos Jr., who takes a pro-American position, relations between the Philippines and the United States have strengthened. The United States gained access to more military bases in the Philippines, while the Philippines rejected Chinese investments in a number of infrastructure projects and increased joint exercises with the US military.

The actions of the Chinese Coast Guard, despite the Philippines' statements about aggression, do not fall under the terms of the US-Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty, which involves US intervention in the event of military aggression against the Philippines. Despite repeated cases of China using water cannons against Philippine vessels, the United States has not taken active action in response to these incidents. This event once again highlights the growing tensions in the South China Sea and the increased political activity in the region.
В Южно-Китайском море произошла стычка между китайскими и филиппинскими кораблями

Я признаюсь, что совсем не следил за событиями на Филиппинах и с удивлением узнал, что Маркос там опять у власти. Какая шумная эпопея была в свое время со старшим Маркосом. Интересно, нового они тоже будут свергать и пытаться посадить в тюрьму?
 
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