Contract Law

[Michal]

Hi,

My inspiration for this topic is the fragment from the below session:

(mkrnhr) There have been cases of attachments that persisted over several incarnations. When the host goes to 5D, where does the attachment go when there's still an energetic karmic affinity to the host?

A: Waits in Earth sphere.

Q: (L) So that's like...

(Andromeda) It waits for the host to reincarnate?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So it kind of waits in a...

(Chu) Limbo.

(Joe) In the ether.

(L) Yes.

Where to start?
1. Are attachements beings that we invite into our lives? I mean is it possible to have attachement without asking for them?

Asking for solution to one's problems could result in attachement I guess. Asking is form of making contract: I ask, other replies, I say OK or NOT OK and contract is made or not.
Sooooo:
Beware what you are asking for? That kind of thing?...
So maybe there are no innocent asks for a favor? No innocent whines into the air, asking God, asking the world etc to help with some problem?

Are there always consequences to a request spoken out loud, even one spoken in solitude, into the so-called ether?

2. Maybe not so hypothetical situation: attachement as in the session citation, awaits on Earth and as soon as baby is born? is that so? accompanies the person from such early on. So: how come we may say about validity of the contract in this particular life when baby is not able to:
- remember
- not able to distinguish the entity to see the attachement.
but attachement awaits...? For how many incarnations it lasts? Is it in the contract? Or maybe that is like with having pets: we just take them not asking for their consent. Is it a violation of a free will having a pet?

3. Is contract "forever" possible? - maybe doubtful because if true is that we are all "multiple personalities" of one greater being then one out of million should not have power over others to decide for all. All decide and their comes chaos.

4. If such a bond is made then in our earthly state we do not understand normally much out of other densities, we do not see full reality of the contract so thus we could treat it as signing contract that we had not been introduced to fully on.
Or maybe it is more like humans and apes: If I approach an ape and stick my paper contract for his/her signature for example that apes agree to be eaten and used for medical experiments how could I treat that contract as binding as I know that ape does not understand a thing from what I say?

But if ape suddenly spoke my language and understood all concepts that I say he/she could be a partner in this deal.

Still in our reality even that maybe violated... But yes: we say it is a violation when other person has same rights but we take advantage of him/her.

5. Other thing is forgetting. How come we may do any few lifetimes long binding contracts when we forget all when born? We would forget about contract even if this was made in full consciousness. Is attachement aware of our condition? Is that a violation in cosmic contract law or this bond need to be renewed like in the democratic state when new government comes it need to vow that all agreements are continued? So referring to point 2 above maybe baby is not affected by attachement until reaches enough (whatever it is) consciousness to accept attachement is his/her life?

6. Attachement being with the person since birth is like air. Hard to notice it's existence. Maybe then attachement is considered as part of us. Part of our personality which in fact it is not? Or maybe it is: we invited another part to our multiple personalities?

7. If there is some kind of contract - how such contract may be ceased?

I am curious of Your thoughts.

 

[Wandering Star]

Maybe then attachement is considered as part of us.

Yes, until you decide otherwise.

Part of our personality which in fact it is not?

It is until you decide otherwise.

Example: the alcoholic person.

Or maybe it is: we invited another part to our multiple personalities?

A person with a soul is unlikely to have several personalities.
The rest of clues are en this forum.

 

[3DStudent]

We made a contract with 4D STS and here we are 300k+ years later. Attachments are STS and would use manipulation tactics we're now aware of, and knowledge protects. I think we can click our ruby slippers and choose to get in the battle any time, but it's a process that will take some "time" to polarize ones self and become unpalatable to them.

 

[Paweł]

Hi Michał!
Interesting topic. I haven't written anything on this forum in a while, so hello Everyone!

1. Are attachements beings that we invite into our lives? I mean is it possible to have attachement without asking for them?

In my opinion, attachment works on the principle of resonance. Every perspective we adopt vibrates at a certain frequency. When a certain perspective/thought/definition is offered to someone (e.g. telepathically by a 4D STS entity) and the person agrees to match the frequency of that perspective, attachment can occur. You are offered a thought - you decide whether this thought is "yours". And then, you can carry that frequency - along with an attachment - for as long as you take it as "truth" which may last for a day... or for countless lifetimes.

Is it in the contract? Or maybe that is like with having pets: we just take them not asking for their consent. Is it a violation of a free will having a pet?

Isn't it a bit like when we are born into a certain family, for example, because we have some karma to work through with those souls? Maybe it's similar with attachments? Maybe in the period between lives we know that this attachment is something we want to work through, and so we agree to allow it in the next life of our own free will, hoping that this time we will finally be able to get rid of it? In other words, we want to gain some kind of spiritual strength from it, something like running in a weighted vest to strengthen our muscles :)

4. If such a bond is made then in our earthly state we do not understand normally much out of other densities, we do not see full reality of the contract so thus we could treat it as signing contract that we had not been introduced to fully on.

Yes, we cannot see the "contract", but from what I know, attachments are always based on resonance with STS thought wave patterns, so knowledge of the "contract" would not even be necessary here - all that is needed is to learn from the consequences of one's actions during this life. It's like some spiritual teachers' perspective on the concept of suffering: "you need it until you realize you don't need it". And the you just change.

maybe baby is not affected by attachement until reaches enough (whatever it is) consciousness to accept attachement is his/her life?

I think that small children do not necessarily have to live with their "destined" attachment from birth. I see no reason why it wouldn't attach in his or her teens for example, as a result of making some choice or reacting to a trauma (this choice or reaction would of course be to choose a STS perspective that would enable the attachment).

These are just few of my thoughts, of course I may be wrong.

 

[ranger]

I have similar thoughts about it. I think that some ideas, assumptions, traumas etc. may give a person something like flypaper tape on their back which works on certain entity.
I don't know why but it just reminded me of Tron Legacy movie scene when Flynn extracts invalid piece of code from unconscious Quorra.

 

[Chu]

In my opinion, attachment works on the principle of resonance. Every perspective we adopt vibrates at a certain frequency. When a certain perspective/thought/definition is offered to someone (e.g. telepathically by a 4D STS entity) and the person agrees to match the frequency of that perspective, attachment can occur. You are offered a thought - you decide whether this thought is "yours". And then, you can carry that frequency - along with an attachment - for as long as you take it as "truth" which may last for a day... or for countless lifetimes.

I agree with Pawel's take (and the rest of his post), and was thinking along several lines.

I would add that maybe your confusion comes from trying to understand it as a "contract", when in reality, it is probably more like a "frequency match", an attraction due to affinities (similar beliefs, thoughts, levels of being, etc.), which precludes the idea of any kind of agreement or conscious decision. When you let go of certain beliefs and thoughts, and you grow in a certain way, your frequency doesn't match the attachment's. Whether it takes one or several lives, that may depend on the lesson profile of each individual. And whether it's from birth or not, that would depend on when the beliefs and the frequency match "anchors" in each lifetime. Or something like that. Reality is probably way more complex than that, of course.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Yeah in my view in a free-will universe, contracts don't make sense. The only reason they work is because there's a legal authority that enforces them (with actual physical force if needed). In the universe, I'd say there could be agreements or frequency matches, etc. but you always have a choice. No one can "sue" you and no cosmic court can enforce things. Karma may be the closest thing to a cosmic court, in a way, but even that can be cleared in multiple ways - the same as a lesson can be learned in multiple ways, and doesn't always involve suffering unless you choose that route (and ignorance is one way we choose). With 4D STS it's a bit different because they can use actual physical force to do what they do, but even there frequency matches appear to be very important. And to all of the above, "knowledge protects", so to enact a choice one needs to act on certain knowledge in certain ways - whether to get rid of an attachment, or to be less "palatable" to 4D STS, to clear karma, to learn lessons, etc. Freedom of association is part of free-will, and knowledge is sometimes needed, just like on Earth, to avoid being a "victim" - which too, is a choice.

 

[Michal]

Hi,
True that by making the title Contract Law - I already primed myself into thinking in this specific way.
Title should be better "Contract Law ?" :)

Although it was only a hypothesis however I did like it "a bit" and I see that even this tiny bit of liking some hypothesis over other may skew the thinking into confirmation bias. Thanks.

Coming back to attachement waiting on Earth for reincarnation of the host. There are few billion people on Earth. How come that attachement awaits for reincarnation instead of finding suitable host among those who are available?

What is going on here? What kind of "law" if any?

When You point to frequency vibration. So does it mean that only this one and only host is so unique for this attachement that no way others would fit the "needs" of this attachement?
Whatever those needs are: distraction, energy harvesting, control, fulfilling orders from "higher rank" beings ?

Is this bond between attachement and host something akin to "friendship" or maybe better liking or romantic missing somebody? Or is it more of a hunger? It is like: I need You - which sound more like STS thing than STO? That is coming from lack of something and using somebody to fill the void, to feel good, to feed off?

STO would be - hey! may I do something for you? how may I help you? wouldn't it?

 

[Michal]

Or maybe it is indeed (well I try hard not to like new hypotheses) like between humans: shared moments, shared memories - they are unique. So it is not just a matter of feeding. It is not relation like human and potato :). This is much more sophisticated.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

When You point to frequency vibration. So does it mean that only this one and only host is so unique for this attachement that no way others would fit the "needs" of this attachement?
Whatever those needs are: distraction, energy harvesting, control, fulfilling orders from "higher rank" beings ?

Is this bond between attachement and host something akin to "friendship" or maybe better liking or romantic missing somebody? Or is it more of a hunger? It is like: I need You - which sound more like STS thing than STO? That is coming from lack of something and using somebody to fill the void, to feel good, to feed off?

STO would be - hey! may I do something for you? how may I help you? wouldn't it?

I think you probably answered that one. People are "attracted" to specific other people sometimes, just like you may love or want to be around a specific person. It's not always general like "oh this person is an alcoholic and so am I". Sometimes people become obsessed or infatuated with that person. But it's probably not limited to STS obsessions and cravings - affinity for another specific soul is probably common and natural like friendships are on Earth. The C's mentioned that relationships in 4D STO are even more important than in 3D. So spending time with people whose unique company you enjoy and working/playing together seems to be just a thing souls do.

It doesn't have to be a "law", and we don't necessarily need to deconstruct the dynamic into its constituent parts to try to define it, osit. It's like breaking love into reasons why you love someone. I mean it's good to have reasons and be conscious of who you're spending time with and why, but a lot of the "why" may be simply indescribable - it's unique to the individual and simply free will - because you choose to. If you could break free will into "laws" or mechanical explanations and subcomponents, it really wouldn't be free will anymore I think but something mechanical.

And if you could define a person based on their physical and spiritual components, then we'd just be a collection of components with no real individuality or uniqueness. We all have an FRV, but the FRV is a result of who we are - we are not the result of our FRV. In other words, our choices, knowledge, thoughts, personality, experience etc generate all these "frequencies" that emanate from us, but we are not the product of those frequencies, they don't "define" us. In fact, FRV couldn't even be the totality of who we are no matter how much information about us can be packaged into it - it's just an approximation, and a momentary snapshot. The part of us that can choose to change our FRV with our choices and new knowledge cannot itself be contained in the FRV.

So I guess what I'm saying is that you could be attracted to someone because of a frequency match. But sometimes, it's simply because they are them, and no one else. Of course, the trick is knowing who they actually are. Sometimes what we think is "them" isn't them at all. Maybe one day they become a they/them lol

 

[Michal]

When I say law I mean natural law not statutory law. For example our physical realm is full of laws: gravity, termodynamics, electircity, etc.

 

[Chu]

Is this bond between attachement and host something akin to "friendship" or maybe better liking or romantic missing somebody? Or is it more of a hunger? It is like: I need You - which sound more like STS thing than STO? That is coming from lack of something and using somebody to fill the void, to feel good, to feed off?

STO would be - hey! may I do something for you? how may I help you? wouldn't it?

I'm not sure I follow you. I never heard of an STO attachment... Attraction because of a "frequency resonance" doesn't mean you are friends. My understanding is that, although the spirit that attaches may not have malevolent intentions per se (it may just have unresolved issues), yes, it's always to fill the void, feel good, feed off, etc.

Anyway, just keep in mind that other than the replies you have been getting, nobody knows exactly how it all works. I think you are trying to find laws and contracts based on our 3D terminologies of such, when it's not so clear-cut or easy to understand from our realm. FWIW!

 

[Michal]

I also do not know.
Anyway this thing that attachement awaits for a person until he/she is born again on Earth is very interesting.

For example another aspect of it:
So attachement knows previous lifes of a person.
Does attachement know the purpose of coming back to Earth? Not necessary while it stays on Earth plane and is not accompanying the soul to other realm.
Or maybe knows the purpose? Maybe the purpose is not known to us but to attachements it is? Who may verify that? :)
So attachement may have more knowledge of the person than the person him/her self.
Also knowledge of the karmic circumstances which may be express in one's life and is not recognized as such by a person.

Just thought came to me: You remember allies of Carlos Castaneda? Maybe attachement is this kind of ally? Not by default but again to make it useful there would need to be some good school for it.

Other thought that came to me today earlier was: guardian angel.
Although I have checked Cass material earlier and found nothing about such concept but maybe this could be some skewed concept that for example if a person has attachement for example grand mother or grand father or something like this than this entity could be in some cases behaving like guardian angel, right?

And one more thought: that maybe attachement could be helpful in this sense that knows about me quite much.
Downside is that I know nothing about attachement and to know him/her and how to use this relation to own growth would be rather tedious and probably or even for sure there are simpler ways to know better oneself however as a possibility is open I guess.

 

[Michal]

One more thought: what if attachments first come close to us as attachments and after some time reincarnate together with us.

Did we have also episodes as attachments?

 

[Paweł]

Other thought that came to me today earlier was: guardian angel.
Although I have checked Cass material earlier and found nothing about such concept but maybe this could be some skewed concept that for example if a person has attachement for example grand mother or grand father or something like this than this entity could be in some cases behaving like guardian angel, right?

Michał,
I think the word "attachment" usually refers to the attachment of an STS entity and is more like a parasite feeding off your energy than an entity that simply chooses to "hang around you".

STO entities (e.g. a deceased relative acting as your guardian angel in this life) do not attach in the same way that STS entities attach. A guardian angel does not manipulate, because they respect your free will, in fact - they assist you in your quest to increase it!

Of course, this does not mean that all deceased relatives always play the role of guardian angels for us, just as relationships with living relatives can be supportive (STO) or draining us of energy (STS). Depends on the relationship.