Hi Donjaun, thanks for sharing your experience. Do you know how long the doctors have been using hydroxychloroquine to treat the virus? Have you seen any improvements with patients compared to previous treatments? And how's the situation overall in the region? Always interested to get information straight from people on the ground.

Hydroxychlorine seems works good. We use these from the beginning (1st/2nd week of March). The antiretroviral seems to do less and have also many side effects. The tocilizumab seems works also but we are using only on severe cases so the sample is limited.

Actually region Lombardia (11mln people) have 50% of all cases and mortality of Italy but concentrated in some areas.
I live near and the situation is less dramatic. But the number of admission in hospital, mild cases and heatlh operator cases are out of ordinary. Our hospital lack of medical personal because many have the illness (pneumonia) at home, some have been hospitalized for moderate pneumonia and even more tested + at covid with mild/no symptoms (like me) are in quarantene for 2 weeks.
 
I will put in my two cents on this topic:

Last year (it was about a year ago) my sister was vaccinating CHILDREN. This is Russia (Petersburg), I will remind. I remember that she often complained that 70 children came to them every day for vaccination. You can consider that these are 350 children a week (and only one clinic, and there are dozens of them in the city). This is a real conveyor! She was very tired and worked in this mode (literally for a second you can’t sit down or go to the toilet!) For several months, after which she transferred to administrative work.
Yes, there were children of different ages, from infants to 6-7 years old, different vaccines (not from one disease, I will ask her another time what vaccines they were).
Adults in our country are vaccinated much less often, I don’t remember when the last time I was vaccinated myself (almost 20 years ago!). But children are vaccinated constantly.

And we know that children do not die from a coronovirus (correct me if I made a mistake), but they can be carriers of it.

Conclusions? I don’t know, I'm just an old sick man. (this is not a mockery)

You reminded me of a conference I watched of Putin years ago where he brought up vaccination.

Here is the clip


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wanted to take a moment before i catch up on the previous posts to get this off my mind.

shelter in place orders have been implemented as of 5PM today for the county in which i work. i am EXTREMELY grateful as i work in a business that is qualified as essential.. so i can continue working (for now). the absurd part is that in order to prevent any problems, they dealership is gonna draw up some papers for me and my coworker. i have to have papers to travel now?? so i won't be harassed by law enforcement?? oof.

due to the changed hours, i have been getting home around 2AM. i commute to work ~150 miles a day so i am on the road a lot. the interstates have been eerily quiet at night, with the exception of big rigs and the occasional passenger car. i have passed several state troopers/sheriffs every day this week.

i think they are bored, tbh. in light of this 'pandemic',' they may have many LEO's on duty with not much to do besides sit around. of course, this doesn't sound too good.. bored officers who have the authority to enforce these shelter in place protocols. just as well, they could also be using it as a way to show force to the public, allow the people to get used to seeing the increased number of law enforcement. another oof.

anyways, i'll continue riding the wave and keeping my eyes peeled. stay safe and be keep being cool.

much love,
 
Another you can try that just might work is piperacillin/tazobactam. I have personal experience with this one and believe that it cured a case of CorVir with some extreme "extra" effects.
Thank you for the advice.
We normally use piperacillin/taz with bacterial pneumoniae but in most severe/moderate hospitalized case of covid pneumoniae there is always a super imposed bacterial infection which complicate and worsen the situation. So the piperacilline can be very useful.
Can i ask you what "extra" effects do you see?
 
Breaking: THE USA IS ABOUT TO BE NO.1

The US will shortly overtake China with highest amount of officially confirmed Covid 19 cases. They are less than 100 cases behind.

Talk about a MASSIVE own goal if it's indeed true they created this virus.

 
I'm a specialist in family medicine, and have ER experience and primary health care experience from various regions in Spain, and specialized experience (I did heart surgery in Milan, BTW).

I'm also in the front line right now in the primary health care sector (health centers), but we receive updates from our local hospital. I can see how this mess is/was created and you can read my posts by going to my username and checking what I posted in this thread in the past.

One problem that has brought up multiple times in this thread already, is that they're not testing people because they consider the entire population suspect. Those tested are hospitalized patients. The international codes for this COVID-19 are as follows:

B34.2 for both COVID-19 confirmed cases and PROBABLE cases, and Z20.828 for possible cases and contacts of those who were confirmed and/or are probable cases.

We just finally received detailed instructions TODAY as to how to use these codes in our primary health care patients. Before that, a bunch of people got labelled B34.2 when they should have received the second code. It will be taken into account for statistical purposes even though the data is not reliable. And notice how those whose tests were inconclusive (probable cases), still get piled up with the confirmed cases.

I highlighted in your post the problem that seems to be compounding this madness. A lot of people that could be at home with primary health care follow ups are staying in the hospital when they have no criteria of hospitalization. That is a luxury that you can't take in countries like Italy or Spain which has a very elderly population that could go into respiratory failure even with a banal bug. There are a lot of comorbidities in our populations as well.

It's true that the COVID factor is playing a role in atypical pneumonias in younger people that can go into respiratory distress. But I don't see much difference from previous flu seasons where I had to sell an elderly patient to the ICU doctor and the later would say no, so he can keep the beds for the younger population. It is often the case that an elderly patient with multiple diseases just wants to pass away and not be reanimated. The mortality right now still doesn't seem to match the mortality from previous seasons.

Right now, the problem is the hysteria and the directives which are fuelling ALL patients to the hospital (see below). The fact remains, MOST people in the general population will not go into respiratory distress. Perspective should be kept as to not break the hospital system - they're the only ones with ICU beds!

In my regional hospital, there are now 6 COVID confirmed cases. Most of them could be at home, but one woman specifically, demanded to be in the hospital. Her husband died last night and he had COVID. However, he also had a pneumonectomy AND lung cancer. I'm pretty sure he will be labelled COVID death, but he was already dying before COVID. The specialist decided to keep other COVID cases, even though we could have followed them from their homes.

I worked today in the COVID circuit and didn't saw a SINGLE patient. Yesterday I worked in the non respiratory circuit at the health center, and saw only 2 patients. I phoned half a dozen people with the common cold, and none have breathing problems, they're all doing better by the day. Nevertheless, as per protocol and because COVID patients are recovering and then after one week, it hits them again, we're doing follow ups after one week.

Now, before all of this began, I was seeing up to 60 patients with either the flu or the common cold in just ONE morning. It was one patient after the other with respiratory symptoms as you just described. But due to the directives of this emergency, these patients are all going to the ER and/or hospital (instead to primary health care centers) or essentially, staying at home instead. Now I'm seeing none or 2 patients at the most per the entire day. Again, primary health care has been effectively shut down. And we do a very important job in avoiding decompensations that otherwise ends up in the hospital. My patients have stuff like heart failure, cancer, COPD, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc, and they need constant check-ups and follow ups. None of this is being done during the "national emergency". They're waiting at home. If something happens to them that can't be managed by phone, they have to go to the hospital. A good number of my patients have 6 diseases or more in one single body.

If the regional hospital doesn't let go of the MILD cases, they will soon be in very big trouble. I can think easily of 100-300 people in my post which covers 1500 patients (1900 if you count the ones in the elderly residency hospital) that will easily go into respiratory failure or get into trouble if their check-ups are withheld for longer and/or if they catch a cold. And yes, this COVID is highly contagious and has its peculiarities. Fact remains, people have multiple comorbidities and MOST people, specially those without comorbidities, will only have a mild form.

Now, anything that happens to anybody, has to be dealt by the emergency services in the hospital because they can't come to me, nor I can derive them to specialists the usual way. And never mind the people that I was following up every week because they had either anxiety or depression, and I was leaving them homework and listening to their problems as to prevent suicide attempts.

It's like cooking up a storm. They emphasize so much the work of primary health care, but you don't see that in the news these days. They need hospital heroes and stories of how ER staff doesn't have time to eat and how a ICU nurse committed suicide after testing positive for COVID. I have received phone calls from people that I haven't heard of in decades because they are concerned about my welfare, now that I have only seen like 2 patients per day. Whereas before, when I didn't have time to eat nor go to the toilet, or was spending up to 4 consecutive days working non stop (sleeping like 2 hours per night) and even dealing with 4 significant emergencies at the same time, they didn't care for me. Such is life.

I thought I'd share this after reading your post, @Gaby :

In the health food centre where I work, there are people coming in looking for supplements because they cannot receive treatments from their GPs or from primary health care centres. People with pernicious anemia who get routine B12 shots are unable to receive their shots because they have cancelled their shots for the foreseeable future and no one is to go to their GPs. People with diabetes are unable to receive insulin shots. I'm not sure about allergies and epipens as no one has come in to ask about that specifically.

It's shocking and upsetting nonetheless. Those who were previously ill or in the process of receiving treatment don't seem to matter to national health services... until they end up in the emergency rooms and ICU units and become a COVID-19 death and statistic.

What in the world? :umm:
 
I forgot to add: no primary health care workers from referral services are visiting the residential elderly home I worked in. While not sure of the full reasons behind this, I will enquire.

One guess here is to protect the health care workers so they are able to deal with emergencies etc. In addition to protecting the elderly. So, protection on both sides.
 
I’ve fully transcribed Corbett's massive trawl through the last 20+ years on build up to Medical Martial Law


Thank you for putting all that info together. I had to take two breaks and go out for cigarettes whilst reading.
Some I already knew but reading it altogether was very heavy. My chest got very tight and I realised very deep down just, for the first time I think, what exactly the C's meant by Knowledge protects. It felt like staring into the abyss and acknowledging reality left and right. I just wanted to turn off the computer and go do a cross-word or something. Can't really say if I experiencing fear or anger or both. Guess I'll have to sit with it for a while.

The whole thing is the 2020 version of the PROTOCOLS OF ZION in action. Oh my, where does the hubris come in.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
i commute to work ~150 miles a day so i am on the road a lot.
Take good care of yourself, alwaystired. Especially when I consider the irony of your nickname here. I presume you are knowledgeable in terms of getting suitable supplements but driving 150 miles a day is a lot. I have done it myself in the past and when your work is exhausting and stressful, you can easily loose concentration. Sorry if I sound like your mother ;-)
 
Breaking: THE USA IS ABOUT TO BE NO.1

The US will shortly overtake China with highest amount of officially confirmed Covid 19 cases. They are less than 100 cases behind.

Talk about a MASSIVE own goal if it's indeed true they created this virus.


Follow up... Now confirmed. The USA is officially top of the world.


Trump said he hoped the country can get back to work by Easter? As in 2 weeks away? Riiiiiiiight! Let's watch how this will happen.

Guys also remember, it was just over 60 days ago that all this officially begun... It feels like we've been on this ride a long time. But no, just over 60 days since the ride really got going.

Back then we were splitting hairs about there being a couple thousand 'officially' infected. Now we are at 500k... Btw, we were at 400k like 3 days ago. 100k like last week. Lets see where we are in another 60 days.
 
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🇲🇽 President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has an advice for Mexicans: "Live life as usual!"

The Guardian

“We’re going to keep living life as usual,” a relaxed Andrés Manuel López Obrador insisted in an online video shot during a weekend tour of the southern Mexican state.
“I’ll tell you when not to go out any longer,” the left-wing populist said, explaining that the pandemic was still only in its first phase.

“If you’re able and have the means to do so, continue taking your family out to eat … because that strengthens the economy.”

López Obrador, who most know as Amlo, has responded to the coronavirus crisis with nonchalance – never missing an opportunity to contradict the advice of public health officials or paint the pandemic as a plot to derail his presidency.

In recent weeks Amlo has routinely avoided social distancing and organised campaign-style rallies rife with gladhanding, hugs and baby-kissing. (..)

He is also drawing unflattering comparisons to other populists such as the US president, Donald Trump, who has downplayed the urgency of the coronavirus pandemic, and Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, who has dismissed the crisis as a media “trick” and a “fantasy”.

This week the left-wing American magazine Mother Jones branded Amlo “the most irresponsible president on the continent” and said his weak response compared badly with those of other Latin American governments such as Colombia and El Salvador.

Analysts said Amlo’s apathetic response stems partly from concerns over Mexico’s economy – and partly from his conviction that his political foes are behind calls for him to take more drastic action.


In a world dominated by a one-world government and a one-world opinion people must be surprised that some political leaders in other countries are actually holding different views and are behaving as we all did during any old influenza epidemic.

Watch the "Guardian" calling them left-wing and right-wing populists (populist= a politician not totally owned by the World Gov't) and of course Donald Trump, the populists' populist!
 
And what could go wrong when you vaccinate "experimentally" 4,000 healthcare workers exactly when you need them the most? (in Australia)

They are using an old tuberculosis vaccine (The vaccine bacillus Calmette-Guérin, or BCG) according to that link and it seems that it is also used as chemotherapy for bladder cancer.

The other interesting thing is that in Spain they announced the benefit of this drug from the beginning. And what did they decided? To restrict the prescriptions only for hospital use. Essentially, piling up more of the workload to the hospital setting when the majority of the doctors (those in primary health care) are NOT located. I can't prescribe it any more, only to chronic patients who have lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. So even more work to the ER and those in the hospitals!

Sounds like they might be trying to reduce the number of private practice's in favour of state run hospitals.
 
🇲🇽 President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has an advice for Mexicans: "Live life as usual!"

The Guardian




In a world dominated by a one-world government and a one-world opinion people must be surprised that some political leaders in other countries are actually holding different views and are behaving as we all did during any old influenza epidemic.

Watch the "Guardian" calling them left-wing and right-wing populists (populist= a politician not totally owned by the World Gov't) and of course Donald Trump, the populists' populist!

Very admirable bravery.

If I was Mexico, I would cut off all testing (don't test, don't find out would be the motto), live normally and hope for the best. For good measure, if I was feeling really daring, I'd encourage Americans north of the border to come on down, escape the hysteria in their country and spend some tourism dollars in my economy.

This is what I'd call my 'going all in' strategy on a specific bet. Who knows, gambles do pay off and they say, the bigger the risk, the greater the reward.

Mexico currently sits at a nice comfortable 475 cases - luxury living that is.
 
More AI coming up ! Is Georges Orwell becoming old news already ?
No way they came up with this drone in the past month, this IMO was already pre-planned.

As the Covid-19 pandemic continues to spread, governments are using technology to clamp down on those who are not obeying their orders in an Orwellian nightmare that may very well be the new norm! Pandemic drones can now read your temperature to detect if you’re sick and your cell phone is being used to track your movements to ensure you’re not gathering with 5 or more people, all for “your safety” of course. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth covers the latest technological advances being made to obliterate privacy rights under the guise of keeping us safe from Covid-19.

 
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