Creativity, imagination and link to STO?

[aaronfransen]

This is kind of a two part thingy.

The first one is personal, and I know we discourage personal questions but this one seems to me that it *might* have some general interest for others who have experienced the same thing:

About 20 years ago my aunt passed away. She was the kindest, gentlest person anyone in our family had ever known, and she went way too early (thanks to Cancer). At the time I had been doing a lot of reading about spiritualism etc. and was definitely in a "asking lots of questions" phase. So as I lay in bed the evening after the funeral, I thought to myself "Aunty Teresa, if anything of what I'm learning is real can you give me a sign?"

Well, as soon as I thought it, I absolutely felt her in the room...her or ... something? It literally took my breath away and, frankly scared the bejezus out of me. I said, out loud, "I'm sorry, I thought I could handle it but I can't!" The feeling went away immediately.

So long runup to question 1: Is it possible this was her, or is it more likely it was an STS entity trying to confuse me? (It would seem to me that I would be far from the only person this kind of thing happens to, hence the reason I'm asking ;) )

Question 2 is easier: Creativity, at it's essence, is STO, yes? It's the antithesis to entropy, creation instead of destruction. However, it's easy for creativity to be perverted for STS purposes.

As a sci-fi writer I depend on my imagination, and even with the realization that this energy can be perverted, is it important to cultivate our creativity?

Thanks all!

 

[syldan]

Thank you 'Lost Spirit' for this post, as it touches something i also (others, i imagine too?) have wondered about for a long time. And it is connected to the last session (Dec.6, 2014) with the C's to date.

The way i ask myself this question has been as follows:

- Are there instances in the act of creating (songwriting, poetry, painting, etc) in 3rd density where a person's actions (creation) are truly of the STO realm? Or are we limited, by our very nature of being in 3D, to always create from an STS perspective?

From personnal experience, it has taken me years to feel as if i can create (music and writing) from a point of non-anticipation (as to results) and yet no matter how much i try, there is always the nagging feeling that it is impossible for me to reach a degree of purity of intent that i am striving to attain. This has made me come to the conclusion that there will always be a degree of anticipation, no matter what i do?! It would be interesting to find out what the C's have to say, at least so that if we are striving for the impossible, we can do so in a manner as to benefit those whom our creations are aimed towards?

 

[Deleted member 4320]

Question 2 is easier: Creativity, at it's essence, is STO, yes? It's the antithesis to entropy, creation instead of destruction. However, it's easy for creativity to be perverted for STS purposes.

Creativity and imagination are attributes of subconscious mind/ system 1.

If system 1 is rewired then in case of souled human being is possible to receive signals from higher self and predominately describing it as intuition. If somebody doesn't work on the self then creativity may be automatisms derived from programs loaded up in the process of "education."

The "STS creativity" and "STO creativity" is probably to drain off through The Work.

 

[MusicMan]

And then there was the Biblical injunction to "not take unto yourselves graven images", which Moslem communities get around by using stylised art forms. Where does art cease being STO and devolve into STS? Was it ever STO?

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

So long runup to question 1: Is it possible this was her, or is it more likely it was an STS entity trying to confuse me? (It would seem to me that I would be far from the only person this kind of thing happens to, hence the reason I'm asking ;) )

I can't really say was it your aunt or not, but i think that one important thing is to remember that STS forces don't respect free will. If this wasn't just psychological event due to sorrow, stress etc, then the question you could ask yourself is that was your free will violated when you asked "Aunty Teresa, if anything of what I'm learning is real can you give me a sign?". Is it violation of free will to give direct sign when you're trying to learn about paranormal phenomena? This is something that came to my mind, although i'm not sure of the answer in this particular case.

Question 2 is easier: Creativity, at it's essence, is STO, yes? It's the antithesis to entropy, creation instead of destruction. However, it's easy for creativity to be perverted for STS purposes.

Yes. The way i see creativity is that the end result will determine is something creative. Just because a process is sophisticated doesn't mean it is necessarily creative. For instance Manhattan Project included obviously a lot of complex information and high level scientific work but because the end result increased entropy inside the system, it can't be a creative process, imo. Similarly in a mental level a psychopath's manipulations -if intelligent enough- can be seen very complex but again the end result will only increase entropy through the suffering of people they're interacting. There's different ways to define creativity and usually people just equal creativity as any complex process or invention. In my opinion the more objective way is to look how they interact with the living system, do they create or destroy?

- Are there instances in the act of creating (songwriting, poetry, painting, etc) in 3rd density where a person's actions (creation) are truly of the STO realm? Or are we limited, by our very nature of being in 3D, to always create from an STS perspective?

If those creations are expressing Truth, then it's aligned with STO realm. That could happen for instance through lyrics that expose lies of our corrupted hierarchical control system. Or maybe even by creating music or painting that respects elements as harmony, order and structure. For instance a composition that is based on contrapunctal rules instead of some random notes has less entropy. Though i'm not sure would this qualify to be in STO realm, just a thought. The opposite of this would be art that is totally subjective. You can find more information on this by searching "objective art" from the forum.

According to this C's session some art can be inspired by 6th density:

March 11, 1995

Q: (T) Now, you keep referring to the movie, “The Wizard of Oz”. You have been saying…
A: 6th density inspired.
Q: (T) You have good filmmakers up there in sixth density. Okay, you keep referring to the movie, and that we have an ability within us that is something like the Ruby Slippers that can take us back to STO any time we wish.
A: Yes.

From personnal experience, it has taken me years to feel as if i can create (music and writing) from a point of non-anticipation (as to results) and yet no matter how much i try, there is always the nagging feeling that it is impossible for me to reach a degree of purity of intent that i am striving to attain. This has made me come to the conclusion that there will always be a degree of anticipation, no matter what i do?! It would be interesting to find out what the C's have to say, at least so that if we are striving for the impossible, we can do so in a manner as to benefit those whom our creations are aimed towards?

I think non-anticipation in creative process has a lot to do with mental condition called flow. When your mental resources are in balance with the task -so it's not too hard or too easy- and you enjoy the doing for the sake of itself, without anticipating any outside or future reward, you're more likely to enter the flow state. Any kind of anticipation will break the flow because you start to concentrate your thoughts into the future, instead of the present action at hand. For example when improvising music you're not going to achieve a nice flow of jazz lines, if you're thoughts are somewhere else than in the music itself that is constantly moving in time and requires you to be fully involved in the process.

 

[lilyalic]

It's rather confusing to distinguish whether those kind of events are merely created by us, or they are in actual fact from 'higher up'

In the wave it mentions that we can create something with enough energy towards it.. So I'm wondering whether you thinking about it, putting the energy into the communication/answer of your Aunt has the element of STS, but then again it's needed to have the higher connection?