Diagram the scope of the states of consciousness about the Objective Reality

[Eongar]

Hi all

I would like to share a scheme in which I have been working a bit. The diagram shows the extent of the different states of consciousness regarding the Objective Reality, Truth. Publish it to share and to take a critical view for editing, because you might miss some detail or need to be adjusted. Thanks in advance for the comments.

The diagram:

The greater the level of consciousness, in turn, be-, the greater their understanding and perception of reality.
The base of the diagram represents the objective reality as such, each individual perceives reality differently depending on their level of consciousness.
The rectangles of different sizes, symbolizing the extent of each level perceptual consciousness. In dream consciousness and waking consciousness, we note that the perceptual area is rather limited. Viewed this way we can think better idea of ​​the limitations to which mankind is subject. Remember that "within these limits, very limited objective, but subjectively seem vast, man can give free rein to their fantasies and ambitions". In this state of consciousness, the individual is under the rule of General Law. The influence of the General Law on the individual is represented in the diagram as a rectangle with dashed lines, which involve the state of consciousness of waking and sleeping consciousness.

Once the form has worked continuously on itself, creating the magnetic core, achieves self-consciousness in which perception is increased to levels not seen in the waking state of consciousness. Still, it is not entirely exempt from the influx of the Act and, therefore, can sometimes fall into some errors. But at this point, the individual is sufficiently able to identify the aspects of each event, knowing to make amends in the vast majority of occasions.
As discussed above, once the form has developed its capabilities to the maximum, it reaches the Absolute Consciousness. Now perceive Reality as it is.
The arrows descending from the Absolute Consciousness to Awareness of sleep represent the manifestations of radiation of higher consciousness to the lower, what is erroneously called "intuition" or "sixth sense." These events make an appearance at the time when the individual's needs, is what some call "inner compass." These demonstrations, waking consciousness, I often get from Real, that is, from the state of consciousness itself. The internal compass is a guide, fairly and objectively judging current events.
The internal compass, if the seeker learns to recognize among the voices of different selves, can safely and securely to important results momentous in its way.

Maximum: The objective of Search:

"WHO IS ONE AND HOW MUCH CAN SEE".

 

[Leo40]

Hi, Alvaro:

This list is taken form David R. Hawkins' Book: "Truth vs Falsehood"
and shows his arrangement of the levels of consciousness.

Appendix B
Map of the Scale of Consciousness


God-view Self-view Level Log Emotion Process
Self Is Enlightenment700-1,000Ineffable Pure
Consciousness
All-being Perfect Peace 600 Bliss Illumination
One Complete Joy 540 Serenity Transfiguratiot
Loving Benign Love 500 Reverence Revelation
Wise Meaningful Reason 400 Understanding Abstraction
Merciful Harmonious Acceptance 350 Forgiveness Transcendence
Inspiring Hopeful Willingness 310 Optimism Intention
Enabling Satisfactory Neutrality 250 Trust Release
Permitting Feasible Courage 200 Affirmation Empowerment
Indifferent Demanding Pride 175 Scorn Inflation
Vengeful Antagonistic Anger 150 Hate Aggression
Denying Disappointing Desire 125 Craving Enslavement
Punitive Frightening Fear 100 Anxiety Withdrawal
Uncaring Tragic Grief 75 Regret Despondency
Condemning Hopeless Apathy, hatred 50 Despair Abdication
Vindictive Evil Guilt 30 Blame Destruction
Despising Hateful Shame 20 Humiliation Elimination

I have found that contemplation of this arrangement can be helpful.
Better would be reading the whole book.

 

[obyvatel]

This list is taken form David R. Hawkins' Book: "Truth vs Falsehood"
and shows his arrangement of the levels of consciousness.
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I have found that contemplation of this arrangement can be helpful.
Better would be reading the whole book.

Hi Leo40,
I have not read the said book but found this quote in the David Hawkins publishing website regarding this book

In this cutting-edge presentation, the author shares with the reader the simple, instantaneous technique that, like litmus paper, differentiates truth from falsehood in a matter of seconds.

Have you put this claim to the test? Did you find this claim to be true?

The arrangement that Hawkins puts forward regarding the scale of consciousness has strong similarities with Indian metaphysical thought and current new age versions of spirituality which (usually) lead to a
"All is One
Nothing need be done"
type of enlightened outlook - at least that is my initial thought.

I have found Dabrowski's "Multilevelness of Emotional and Instinctive Functions" to be useful in a related context.

 

[Leo40]

Hi, obyvatel:

Dr. Hawkins' method of testing for truth of a statement is basic muscel testing which has
been used by many practitioners for diagnostic purposes and is well established to produce
results.
You can read more here:_http://consciousnessproject.org/articles/how-to-accurately-conduct-consciousness-research/

The most important fact to obtain accurate results is that the testing person must have a level of consciousness
above 200. The higher the level the better the result.

It would be interesting if members of this forum could explore this method.
Just imagine the time you could save by avoiding dead ends in research!

 

[Eongar]

Obyvatel Thanks for your post on Dabrowski. Fits well with the diagram above. It is an impressive work theory, and has great parallels with aspects of the Fourth Way. Work with it as it has plenty of juice to get.

Hawkins As I read about him and his method seems somewhat simplistic. Each person is manifested in different ways and technique does not necessarily work the same way in all individuals.

 

[ana]

Hi, obyvatel:

Dr. Hawkins' method of testing for truth of a statement is basic muscel testing which has
been used by many practitioners for diagnostic purposes and is well established to produce
results.
You can read more here:_http://consciousnessproject.org/articles/how-to-accurately-conduct-consciousness-research/

The most important fact to obtain accurate results is that the testing person must have a level of consciousness
above 200. The higher the level the better the result.

It would be interesting if members of this forum could explore this method.
Just imagine the time you could save by avoiding dead ends in research!

But learning/growing is no about saving time and avoiding dead ends, it is a process in wich experiences play a vital role, even "negative experiences".
If you are not able to discern by yourself and rely in such methods you loose the possibility of experiencing that wich will make you able to see and the joy that comes from self realizing you've learn.

A: When we say discover, we mean for you to use your given talents to learn, not to
have us lead you by the hand every step of the way. If we were to do that, we would
cheat you out of an opportunity to gain knowledge, and more importantly,
understanding. Thus, we would be abridging free will!

A: Laura, please learn just to trust your expanding insights. They will bring you to ever
increasing knowledge and ability. But, you want us to lead you by the hand. All this can do is ultimately lead this channel and conduit into an STS vehicle!

We suspect you have decided to "chuck" your quest, and have us "lead you by the
hand," and therefore, we will refrain from assisting you in this "short-cut" process, as it would not help you ultimately. You have overwhelming, uncontrollable curiosity, but patience pays, my Dear, and "haste makes waste.

Lead by the hand? No way, Jose`!

:D

 

[obyvatel]

It would be interesting if members of this forum could explore this method.
Just imagine the time you could save by avoiding dead ends in research!

I do not know enough about kinesiology to comment on whether such a method can exist in that field. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can respond. But while trying to evaluate the fruits of the method, I do not think it measures up (and that is being charitable). I am assuming that Dr Hawkins has used his method on himself and "measures above 200" - the requirement for the discernment method to work. I read an interview of Dr Hawkins in _http://newconnexion.net/articles/index.cfm/2004/09/hawkins.html. Here are some excerpts. DH is Dr Hawkins and MK is the interviewer Miriam Knight - this was published in 2004.

MK: Could you explain the scale?

DH: You calibrate truth on a scale of 1000, and that includes everything knowable in this domain, so bacteria – the first conscious organisms – calibrate at 1, and the highest level of consciousness that ever existed on the planet is that of the great Avatars – Buddha, Christ, Krishna, Zoroaster all calibrate at 1000. So the top level that man is capable of in this domain is 1000, and everything else is relatively true as compared to that.

So, for instance, people want to know who are integrous spiritual teachers, because there are a lot of false gurus out there. So we calibrated them, and gave the calibration level of their work. In the book we have a list of over a hundred that calibrated at 460 or over. So 460 is integrous truth and many of the most famous teachers calibrate in the high 400s.
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DH: Well in America, the overall calibration is at 421 – the highest in the world. In our population, approximately 50% of the people calibrate over 200 and 50% below 200, so half the people are integrous and half are not. In the world at large, 85% calibrate below 200 and only 15% above 200. So in the evolutionary sense, it’s sort of a rudimentary planet.
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MK: Given the high calibration of America, do you think we are leading the way in a new form of universal spirituality?

DH: It’s the dominant culture in the world. As I say, 421 means intelligence, intellect, logic, science, reason, ethics, morality, responsibility. It’s a pretty high calibration; 421 is pretty advanced.
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MK: When one is faced with force, what is the higher level reaction? Take Iraq for example. Do we support war or peace?

DH: Yes, I have friends who had family members blown up on 9/11. Sometimes to support peace you have to make war – have a little war to prevent a big war. That’s called triage. I was in WWII, so we understand triage. That means you sacrifice a certain number of combatants on this side to save the life of many millions.

From what I have seen so far, Dr Hawkins seems like a candidate for the New Age Cointelpro section.

 

[manitoban]

MK: Could you explain the scale?

DH: You calibrate truth on a scale of 1000, and that includes everything knowable in this domain, so bacteria – the first conscious organisms – calibrate at 1, and the highest level of consciousness that ever existed on the planet is that of the great Avatars – Buddha, Christ, Krishna, Zoroaster all calibrate at 1000. So the top level that man is capable of in this domain is 1000, and everything else is relatively true as compared to that.

So, for instance, people want to know who are integrous spiritual teachers, because there are a lot of false gurus out there. So we calibrated them, and gave the calibration level of their work. In the book we have a list of over a hundred that calibrated at 460 or over. So 460 is integrous truth and many of the most famous teachers calibrate in the high 400s.
...............................................

DH: Well in America, the overall calibration is at 421 – the highest in the world. In our population, approximately 50% of the people calibrate over 200 and 50% below 200, so half the people are integrous and half are not. In the world at large, 85% calibrate below 200 and only 15% above 200. So in the evolutionary sense, it’s sort of a rudimentary planet.
................................
MK: Given the high calibration of America, do you think we are leading the way in a new form of universal spirituality?

DH: It’s the dominant culture in the world. As I say, 421 means intelligence, intellect, logic, science, reason, ethics, morality, responsibility. It’s a pretty high calibration; 421 is pretty advanced.
..................................

MK: When one is faced with force, what is the higher level reaction? Take Iraq for example. Do we support war or peace?

DH: Yes, I have friends who had family members blown up on 9/11. Sometimes to support peace you have to make war – have a little war to prevent a big war. That’s called triage. I was in WWII, so we understand triage. That means you sacrifice a certain number of combatants on this side to save the life of many millions.

From what I have seen so far, Dr Hawkins seems like a candidate for the New Age Cointelpro section.

I agree. I initially encountered the work of Dr. Hawkins when I attended a lecture by Wayne Dyer back in my new age days. During the lecture, Dr. Hawkins work was promoted by Wayne, and his book was available for sale along with many of Wayne's books. Given the "you create your own reality" slant of Wayne Dyer's books, I gotta wonder about the connection between the two.

 

[dugdeep]

DH: Well in America, the overall calibration is at 421 – the highest in the world. In our population, approximately 50% of the people calibrate over 200 and 50% below 200, so half the people are integrous and half are not. In the world at large, 85% calibrate below 200 and only 15% above 200. So in the evolutionary sense, it’s sort of a rudimentary planet.
................................
MK: Given the high calibration of America, do you think we are leading the way in a new form of universal spirituality?

DH: It’s the dominant culture in the world. As I say, 421 means intelligence, intellect, logic, science, reason, ethics, morality, responsibility. It’s a pretty high calibration; 421 is pretty advanced.
..................................

From what I have seen so far, Dr Hawkins seems like a candidate for the New Age Cointelpro section.

Anyone who claims America to have the highest collective consciousness on the planet is completely lost or deliberately misleading, IMO. And his scale of consciousness seems to be based on nothing at all - completely subjective. How does he know that "the great Avatars – Buddha, Christ, Krishna, Zoroaster" all had the same level of consciousness? How would one even begin to measure this? And how exactly does he "calibrate" people to determine if they're "integrous"? It seems to me like he's trying to put a quantitative measurement to his own subjective assessments/assumptions.

My 2 cents.

 

[Palinurus]

Hi all,

This part of a session (6 Aug 05) came to mind as possibly relevant here:

Q: (H) What percentage of the US population actually thinks at all?

A: 12% if you define it rigidly.

Q: (group amazement at this figure)

A: What do you expect with HAARP turning brains to tapioca

Q: (J) So it's a Zombie nation then?

A: You took the words right out of 6th density.

Q: (J) so does HAARP only affect the US population?

A: Mostly.

Q: (J) In terms of our group members, the only solution would be to get out of the US then? Is that true?

A: Or be aware and network.

This snip can be found at two places: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg68061#msg68061 and http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7128.msg50376#msg50376 (you have to scroll down quite a bit in this one)

Seems that dugdeep is spot on with his/her assessment.

 

[seek10]

It would be interesting if members of this forum could explore this method.
Just imagine the time you could save by avoiding dead ends in research!

I do not know enough about kinesiology to comment on whether such a method can exist in that field. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can respond. But while trying to evaluate the fruits of the method, I do not think it measures up (and that is being charitable). I am assuming that Dr Hawkins has used his method on himself and "measures above 200" - the requirement for the discernment method to work. I read an interview of Dr Hawkins in _http://newconnexion.net/articles/index.cfm/2004/09/hawkins.html. Here are some excerpts. DH is Dr Hawkins and MK is the interviewer Miriam Knight - this was published in 2004.

From what I have seen so far, Dr Hawkins seems like a candidate for the New Age Cointelpro section.
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I have seeen lot of this type of tests ( short cut approaches ) for the curious minds. they charge a lot for his too. After looking at other things like leg pad's , auro photography type of things, this one seems to be like them.

We already know that Krishna is a fictional character as per C's. Does the simple muscle test tells persons consciousness?. If so, yogi's who are relaxed may have high consciousness or psychopaths who doesn't have consciousnmess may be relaxed too in this toxic world and will have high measeured consciousness too.

Sounds like another new age hook for novice.

 

[Leo40]

The scientific approach would be to reproduce the experiment and then decide
if the results merit considerarion.
All a priory dismissals are not appropriate.
imho the intent is to access the unconscious NOT to create a short cut.

What the man says or appears to be is irrelevant.

 

[anart]

The scientific approach would be to reproduce the experiment and then decide
if the results merit considerarion.
All a priory dismissals are not appropriate.
imho the intent is to access the unconscious NOT to create a short cut.

What the man says or appears to be is irrelevant.

That is incorrect. Who the man is relevant, as is what he says. You appear to be emotionally identified with this quite dubious information. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to examine why that is? The people in this thread have critiqued the information, not you - so why are you reacting as if they are critiquing you?

 

[obyvatel]

The scientific approach would be to reproduce the experiment and then decide
if the results merit considerarion.
All a priory dismissals are not appropriate.

Hi Leo40,
I had asked you (in reply #2) whether you had put the claims made by the author to the test. You have asked others to validate the method a couple of times - yet you have not disclosed your own results (if any) from trying it out. To get others interested in any experiment, usually some credible results are required which tells others that it could be worthwhile to walk down that path. From the interview excerpts, it does not seem that Dr Hawkins has developed the ability to discern the truth.

A couple of possibilities

a) He does not use his own method on himself - in which case I would very seriously doubt anything that he brings out. What kind of scientist would not test his theory (which can be easily applied) on himself?

b) He has used his method on himself (a logical assumption based on his premises would be that he "calibrates" to the level required to put his method to use) and then the results are nebulous.

If a hypothesis which states that truth and falsehood can be discerned cannot stand the test of basic reality check, why bother with it?

 

[Leo40]

[Hi Leo40,
I had asked you (in reply #2) whether you had put the claims made by the author to the test. You have asked others to validate the method a couple of times - yet you have not disclosed your own results (if any) from trying it out. To get others interested in any experiment, usually some credible results are required which tells others that it could be worthwhile to walk down that path.

The reason I did not and can not use kinesiologic testing is simoly the fact that I live alone and have
no suitable persons for testing.