True to nature? I'd gladly try to stop Hitler etc, even if it somehow stops people from learning lessons.
Anyway, who says the lessons had to be learned that way? What we know about these "karmic lessons" is not exactly clear. They actually sound quite limited and linear. What is non-linear? Exactly what Joe said- to jump in to save a kid on instinct/automatic reaction. My point to him was that a lot of things are not as STO as we think. There's little to no free will involved when the "low road" brain wiring takes over and you decide to save a child drowning (despite the huge risk), or go back in time to stop a horrible event.
The work itself dictates that the worst thing to do is lying to oneself, correct? I can't lie that I would do things out of anger. According to the ideals of STO, that's pure STS. Well, at least I don't lie to myself about it. Or maybe some people don't feel that anger for injustice? If so, I envy them, because feeling angry about the BS going on in the world is not fun. It sucks!
Well, to think that a police officer or you or me jumped into a river to save a child because we were STO is the same hero worship that runs all over religious and war heroes. This is the exact thing that angered me, this childish idealistic view that only good would do it. Maybe I'd kill Hitler because I knew he was a part of the system that lead to the current semi-fascism around the world. Maybe someone else does it because their family died in the holocaust. Any one of us really STO? No.
You say .........even if it stops someone from learning lessons. Sounds very much like RIGHTOUS ANGER but more I feel as indignation & rage. Pure gut reaction. I really apologise if this is not the case, I'm just stating what I get from reading the above.
It sucks ,yes, and it scares the life out of me but living in the West I have never been tested unlike some on this forum. I feel I may be tested in the coming future and I quoted Joe's comment as something I could work on that would, maybe, hopefully help me and temper my reactions.
Sorry if I created noise.