Does anyone have any plans for the coming Ice Age?

Woodsman

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Well.., when I look at the time frames involved, I'm not sure that survival (holding one's breath waiting for it to get warm again) is even possible simply due to the natural parameters of a human life span! Heck, even if ice age conditions only last fifty years or so, (and that seems impossibly optimistic), I doubt many of us would still be around to breathe a sigh of relief when the ice finally starts melting again like it's supposed to during Spring.

So I'm not sure what can really be gained by tucking away jars of preserves and emergency candles in the face of climate changes of this magnitude.

Barring some kind of magical density uplift into an alternate reality where everything is warm and nice, (which seems pretty sci-fi and make-believe), it would logically be that the only realistic means of surviving an ice age will be to pull up stakes and move somewhere equatorial. (Unless you happen to have a standing invitation to one of those underground THX 1138 cities. But that also seems kinda sci-fi and make-believe, not to mention more than a little off putting and scary).

But there just isn't enough black soup in your cellar or generator petrol in your shed to make it through a winter with no end. Especially when your house is buried under fifty meters of ice and snow.

And I just don't know if I have enough energy to embark upon a Caribbean relocation plan!

Frankly, listening to the early Winter wind blasting away outside right this moment, freezing through the cracks, I'm wondering if my wishful desire to be overlooked by catastrophe will be slamming nose-first into an icy wall this season, or if I'll be able to go for another 12 months before things get serious...
 

whitecoast

The Living Force
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I currently live in the northern hemisphere, in Canada, so pretty high up there, and I don't know if I should be considering moving somewhere closer to the equator, or if I should be preparing in any way. My hopes and dreams are that one day I have the means to acquire some land and make it self sustainable and able to fend off any catastrophe that happens, but at this rate I don't know if that is even feasible, the rising cost of living, especially in my city (Vancouver) makes this very hard to accomplish, I am not in the place I want to be yet.

Is anybody else planning or preparing for the cooling period, anybody else apprehensive about it? I am very curious as to what people on this forum, who know whats coming to some extent, are planning for the not so distant future, when all of these things we've been discussing for a long time finally ferment in to reality.
I agree with what Youlik said about internal preparation being the most important, so I'll try and address this more. The world is entering a period of chaos in general. Even if you take measures against an ice age and food shortages, you're facing earthquakes, fireballs, volcanoes, freak storms, crazy exotic EMF technologies, sinkholes, wars from brainwashed religious/ethnic/ideological extremists, nuclear meltdowns in the event of natural disasters, and either natural or engineered plagues. If you want to be preserved by the universe, you should first and foremost make yourself useful to the universe. This involves making a decision to be an STO candidate, which entails becoming a giving and creative force, healing your body, mind, and emotions, and constantly gaining knowledge and awareness through researching and networking.

I think it's absolutely normal for us to fear our smallness in the face of great shifts on earth and in the cosmos. In fact I think on some level we are programmed through some ancient memory to try and read these events, even if only on a symbolic level. But we have two options. We can face it with fear and supplication, in a very simplistic and undeveloped 3D-style thinking, and let that take us go nowhere until we get the hint. Alternatively we can face it sensibly and see that the universe sets out lessons and reasonable tasks for us that ultimately attempt to bring out the best in us -- that is to say, the parts of us that are valued by the universe and which it would seek to preserve for a more creative and harmonious world. The solution is to see all the terror bearing down on us as the perfect playground for us to work on ourselves, reduce our dissociation from ourselves and our dreams, and improve our relationships with those to whom we owe the most for helping us build a better world.
 

romochar

Jedi Master
We have moved from big city (Montreal) to the North, nine months ago. In the Laurentians where are now, most people and households are somewhat prepared to withstand a bit of harsh weather. Most houses have alternative heating (wood stoves), and most all of our neighbours grow some food themselves. There is also a feeling that these neighbours will join efforts in whatever may come conditions. In our minds, this is as much as we can do to prepare, other than stay alert and be open to what may come.

Also, as many others on the forum, we did think of moving to a place south but we decided that nothing could prepare us anyhow for what we imagine is to come. So! Being a family unit in a neighbourly community, helping those around us is as much as we feel is necessary.

We must say though, that the change in our lives, from city to countryside, has been a huge eye opener, and is keeping us busy enough not to over worry this change. In ourselves and our neighbours we trust! And wish everyone a smooth crossing of the winter and years to come!

romochar (DanleMiel) and MissRoBee
 

Martina

Jedi Master
To pay my college loan I got job to deliver mail, this tuesday it was snowing, it was 1 degree Celsius and I was 8 hours in wet shoes outside on cold. And nothing happened, my toes didn't fell off:-). I was just cranky. When you are moving your body warms itself. Maybe we have some genetic adaptation to cold. When I was searching why I don't have wisdom teeth, most of answers on the internet were the Inuit inheritage. It doesn't have to be that but I get warm pretty quickly and I have lots of strenght although I'm tiny and I can live only on lard and I won't miss anything of wordly pleasures. My heart is broken and I don't want to live alone in coldness. I got two babies in the family, both of my sisters got little girls so my family life is richer and happier I also got good friends at work but there is something missing. I know my life partner will never change or develop emotions.
Snow is snow. We'll make nice snowmans.
 

Corvus

Jedi Council Member
When it comes to prepping been doing it for a few years and took it seriously, when it comes to food have it for few months, almost every second month(depending on finances) I buy canned food, not that it is the most healthy but it has more duration then homemade food, hygiene stuff, candles, batteries, fire cubes, etc, ..having good supply of lighters and started buying large water bottles in recent months and filling many empty bottles at home, and will start with buying fuel and storing it in canisters. Already have many things like different types of batteries for gear I have, hand lamps(red light ones especially because at larger distances can not be noticed), water filters, pepper sprays, salt, first aid kits, thermal blankets, fish antibiotics, walkie talkies, etc.. Where we live we use chopped woods, every winter about 20-25m for central heating so it is enough to last for a year. There is woods nearby but for that you would need tractors and smaller trucks to transport it in larger numbers in the case of needed heating and that would last till having fuel stored.

When it comes to security been stockpiling ammo, but mostly for low caliber guns, kevlar bulletproof vests, plates, other military equipment, night vision optics(plan to get better ones when having more money because it is a huge advantage). When it comes to weapons assault rifles are banned and even if having it bullets for them are hard to come by, so the only option for most people is legal guns because even if having illegal ones without ammo you wont hold long. But if having knowledge there are ways to use holes in law and get some equipment that modifies guns in semi auto carbines because in serious situations guns are sometimes not enough and it comes to who has a bigger gun. Long range rifles are mostly only legal for hunters and police and army personnel, and the bullets are expensive so it is expensive sport and there being no ranges for rifle marksmanship. Not mentioning in the case of collapse and martial law all legal weapons being tracked and could be taken away by government. Still what is more important is getting skills that you can teach to others, and like all others it has to be practiced constantly to not get rusty, so I ve been practicing shooting 2-3 times a month, and practicing tactics and dry exercises home which I implement at the range. I learned basics at the force but more of it was through effort, research, practice and investing, but I am planning to do some private military courses and surviving courses when I got others things sorted out financially if I got a chance when it comes to time and money.

When it comes to fitness recently I ve been training cardio and calisthenics and upping my condition by being more constant and felt more younger again, took some months off when it comes to martial arts, not that I ever was in really bad condition because lifelong training but still when doing it all your life for 20 more years you get very easily saturated and having problems to keep it constant. Also getting heavier with close to 90kg and most of it being muscle mass makes things not so easy as before, but at least there are calories to spent in case of food shortages.

Still all of it is expensive when it comes to our country standards and many people barely surviving so it got me all in minus on bank account because have a credit for car to give back, helping family and fuel and maintenance for 19 year old car costs much in our country, so I am looking for other weekend or free times jobs to make it all together but still it is illegal if you work in enforcement to do other jobs(getting fired) but many work on side because of small paycheck and making ends meat. Planning to go to my aunt in Switzerland to work there for a month during vacation time to get my finances not only sorted because of their high standard but also to getting other things I need for prepping and also to get neurofeedback and other therapies, so if all goes as planned till the end of next year I will get it all sorted and get from now basic level to moderate level of having what is needed, but still things never go as planned. Been also considering to go out to work and try in security like most young people go to West being feed up by corruption, nepotism and high sky unemployment, but this is another more personal topic.

In the end this is only the level of prepping you can do on material level, this being very hard in these times and would get even harder because most people are having it already very hard, but it can all go to dust when it comes to earthquakes, fireballs, climate change, cosmic forces because it is only for this human level. But still it is better to do all you can at the level where you are and things you can change(better be safe and ready then sorry), and if it all comes to dust at least you tried if not for yourself then for your family and close ones. But I think most important thing is to change yourself because that is what lasts when all things are gone and has lasting value, and because not all have same conditions so it is a good thing to share skills when need be with less fortunate and in that way maximizing your chances because it is all about team work and only community can survive and thrive. But prepping in any way is preparation like life and all else and it comes down to what you take from it. What I most fear is seeing loved ones hurt, sick and in pain, it gets you that squeezing feeling in the chest.


When it comes to changing location mentioned here it all depends on the situation and timing. If you go to point B when it all collapses then you will end up with masses and lower your chances by many times by getting killed, raped, robbed, etc... Even if being smarter and wait it some time after first wave the roads are going to be blocked and jammed and you can get ambushed, robbed, etc... Sometimes it is better to stay in place if there is more safety in numbers, neighbors and leave it only when necessary if threatened. And when it comes going to south those countries are not going to greet masses with open hands it is going to be closed borders and free to shoot any illegals but I also wonder how those EU countries covered in ice will react and if there is going to be again colonization era catching Africa and other luckier but poorer countries. When looking a map of last ice age in Europe if we assume it will be similar then the country where I live that is half Mediterranean country will be covered in tundra if not "lucky" enough to be covered with swamps like other more southern countries.
 
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Dirgni

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At the end of WW II a lot of persons did flee from Soviet troupes quite fast and unprepared during winter time. Many could take only a few things with them. And even these few thing may have taken from them on the way. Other had to go what they had on their bodies. Many died on the way e.g due to the cold or war, others survived. Those who reached the Western parts of Germany were not welcome and had to struggle to build up their livelihoods again.
I think that in a breakdown situation you could loose everything. But know-how, knowledge is hardest to loose.
We do not know what we will experience and when. It could be that there will be something like the fall of the Roman Empire, the Black Death, the little ice age ...
There were breakdowns during the lifetimes of living people - breakdowns like these are happening quite often but still people experiencing them are struggling.

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cope

Jedi
Things change. Or like i read somewhere, everything swaps. I thought, with my 100+ community and the mountain of bits and bobs and tools, communal garden, chickens and ducks, knowledge of scrap food sources, contacts everywhere, we could hold out together quite well.
Well, we have to relocate before x-mas, because of zoning laws, and it is harsh. My fysical condition has collapsed, not shure why.
I do plan to draw back into my small Mongolian Jurt , when the weather gets too adverse, with more people in it, it will get warmer, but flooding will be its weak point. We are all buying shipping containers to stash our personal stuff and workshops into, and everybody is stressed, we have been happy here for 20 years..
 

Potatoes and Tomatoes

The Force is Strong With This One
Things change. Or like i read somewhere, everything swaps. I thought, with my 100+ community and the mountain of bits and bobs and tools, communal garden, chickens and ducks, knowledge of scrap food sources, contacts everywhere, we could hold out together quite well.
Well, we have to relocate before x-mas, because of zoning laws, and it is harsh. My fysical condition has collapsed, not shure why.
I do plan to draw back into my small Mongolian Jurt , when the weather gets too adverse, with more people in it, it will get warmer, but flooding will be its weak point. We are all buying shipping containers to stash our personal stuff and workshops into, and everybody is stressed, we have been happy here for 20 years..
That's very sad to hear cope...where will everyone go?
 

candasiri

The Force is Strong With This One
Since I found Laura's work in 2011 (I feel I have been searching for these types of truths for lifetimes), I have gone through major changes in terms of my perspective of "end times" the "ice age," and "preparations." About 10 or so yrs ago, I just felt a feeling of doom which led me to research about aliens and "end times" and eventually I found Cassiopaea (thank the higher powers). And at first I felt extremely desperate to prepare physically though not making much progress in such apart from getting $10K worth of gold coins and large gas cans and a really good water purifier which requires electricity . So far, having these items feels kind of silly. I perseverate about when money is going to fail, we'll get "chipped" and if my gold coins will be worth anything. Haven't started seriously gardening, learning to garden or hoarding food. We are doing a huge purge of our stuff at home which feels good which will make room for a deep freezer.

I often perseverate about when things are going to get really bad--like when it's going to start snowing and not not stop but maybe less so than I did before. I live in the Boston area so definitely in the glacier path. But also finding that things are not falling apart as fast as I thought they would be--seems like more of a slower burn with larger more sudden, traumatic events like the earthquakes in CA yet to happen.

I started to read "A cold welcome." What struck me so far is how wet and variable the weather was during "the little ice age." It seems like sometimes it was warm out of season then very cold. Some places flooded and some places had droughts--just like now. Also was very frightening and interesting to read about how in 1608 the winter suddenly got really severe after some places had record warmth in 1607. There was a volcano that exploded in the early 1600s if I remember correctly. Also, people back then could not explain what was going on with the climate, thinking that the equator would be on fire and the planets that rotated around the earth absorbed the moisture from the earth (or something like that). It strikes me as such folly that the majority humanity is just as much in the dark about the climate and the cosmic climate as people were in the 1500 and 1600s, believing that only "global warming" is the cause of the current wild/weird weather. It's like believing that the earth's "humours" are out of whack.

I think that probably the best way for me to prepare is to have people to rely on/some sort of community--I have friends and husband but the one thing that I have not done enough is connect with the forum and people on the forum. As Laura said
supporting FOTCM, participating actively in the limited things we are doing at present, is basically helping us to be better able to help you.
I really need to do more active participation, so making a commitment to do so.
 

cope

Jedi
That's very sad to hear cope...where will everyone go?
Not shure, we do ask each other carefully, shellshocked. Half is preparing, me not yet. There is a former sludgefield under the main ringway we can be at for 2 years. It comes out like 100m2 each for half of us, after mandatory firecorridors, Ecotoilets, campsite-like. But main thing is, it gives an legal adress, the main problem outside costly buying or renting, no adress--> no bank, pasport problem, tax problem etc. So, we will have to make the best of it, try to collectively buy or rent the place, make a plan to set up a regelluwe (in the lee of the ruling wind) eco-zone, somewhere were we can also have the house-boat people and the ateliers and workshops (for income).
 

Oxajil

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Not shure, we do ask each other carefully, shellshocked. Half is preparing, me not yet. There is a former sludgefield under the main ringway we can be at for 2 years. It comes out like 100m2 each for half of us, after mandatory firecorridors, Ecotoilets, campsite-like. But main thing is, it gives an legal adress, the main problem outside costly buying or renting, no adress--> no bank, pasport problem, tax problem etc. So, we will have to make the best of it, try to collectively buy or rent the place, make a plan to set up a regelluwe (in the lee of the ruling wind) eco-zone, somewhere were we can also have the house-boat people and the ateliers and workshops (for income).
I'm sorry to hear that you are all having to relocate, cope. Hopefully, you can keep talking with the others and as you said maybe buy or rent that place together, so that you all can move together. Take good care! :hug2:
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Not shure, we do ask each other carefully, shellshocked. Half is preparing, me not yet. There is a former sludgefield under the main ringway we can be at for 2 years. It comes out like 100m2 each for half of us, after mandatory firecorridors, Ecotoilets, campsite-like. But main thing is, it gives an legal adress, the main problem outside costly buying or renting, no adress--> no bank, pasport problem, tax problem etc. So, we will have to make the best of it, try to collectively buy or rent the place, make a plan to set up a regelluwe (in the lee of the ruling wind) eco-zone, somewhere were we can also have the house-boat people and the ateliers and workshops (for income).
I've always thought, that the houseboat option was an interesting proposition and a good source of mobility.

Though berths can be expensive within Amsterdam's center.

 

cope

Jedi
I've always thought, that the houseboat option was an interesting proposition and a good source of mobility.
Our boat-people made an artists impression of a proposal for a more longterm setup. The boats are the ones pictured and all historical.
The garden would be on styrofoam islands. Anchoring with poles they can organise themselves.
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