Dutroux Cover-up Protected Pedophile Networks

bngenoh

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loreta said:
seek10 said:
Interesting to see the Belgian monarchy's webpage banner. Look at the girl's face. I wonder They couldn't get any thing better than this.

_http://www.monarchie.be/royal-family/birthdays

This little girl looks very unhappy, right.
And those vultures just....
 

Skptyk

A Disturbance in the Force
Zandvoort File: Story of Marcel Vervloesem and the Elite Pedophile Networks

I was very interested in this story when it first broke the news in the late 80s and then tried to follow it through in the 90s when 300,000 Belgians demonstrated in the White March against their justice system and the protected people in high places, however, only recently have I read extensively on the Marc Dutroux conviction in 2004 and the suppression of the testimony of the X witnesses in the trials, the dismissal of the inteviewing police officers and their public disgracing and defamation. Then there was the publication of the leaked testimony of the X witnesses in the book, "Les Dossiers X", the lawsuit in a Paris, France court by King Albert of Belgium to remove the names of the abusers given by the X witnesses in the book, where he won a court order against the publisher to remove them and to write a disclaimer in every single book published exonerating the Royal Family. Then there was the removal of Judge Connerotte who had started the appeal for the child-abused witnesses...

In Part 1 video, at 17:28, the female reporter says this:
"There are two communities in Belgium (Flemish and Walloon-French speaking) and this union is fragile. One should know that the royal family represented the link between the two communities. And if some people had mentioned in some accounts the more or less close involvement of the Belgian royal family, then this Belgium could have, well I imagine that powerful people can imagine this: undermine the national unity. It was a question of the unity of Belgium in the Dutroux case. So I think there was a will to NOT look beyond Dutroux whether or not networks existed for questions of stability of the state."

I believe that this political analysis is incorrect since Belgians to the effect of 300,000 marched arm-in-arm at the White March in Oct 1996 whether they were Flemish or Walloon. It was a demonstration against lies, corruption, and the evil of having "justice untouchables" such as the Royal Family and their bourgeois subjects, capable of thwarting justice out of the way, from the leads given by the X witnesses. It was the extremely ineffective and corrupt Belgian justice system that made these people march and the realization that criminals were filmed and photographed and witnessed while committing these heinous crimes against humanity, in the society that would be forever protected (high justices, police commissioners, business elites, and royal family members including the King!). All they were seeking was justice in a supposed democratic and not nepotistic society and were concerned for the safety of their children (shocking, shocking statistics- about 2000 children go missing in a country of 10 million per year!). I think it is the royal family and especially King Albert that is afraid of the effect it could have on the Kingdom of Belgium, should the links of the network be traced to him and his circle. Belgians could, in their muted horror, demand the dismantling of the kingdom for a republic, since pedophile King would not present too well in the press! And yet many kings, popes and aristocrats have demonstrated unbelievably unsavoury sexual tastes in past history.

Brussels White March:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_March

Since The Dutroux and Zaandvoort cases, we've heard much much more about child pornography as pedophile networks go global and are hidden on the net, only to be revealed after they are busted. More and more cases of missing children are appearing in the media. The acts have increased in ferocity and intensity. The worst stuff is now coming out, abuse-to-order in real time, murder, long screaming torture sessions before murder, babies of 6 and 9 months- humanity is capable of the worse depravity anyone could not imagine existed until they are faced with the truth.

What's unique in this Belgian, Dutch, French, German, British (etc) case is that there are witnesses to much of the murder, abuse and torture. There are people who recognize the children in the Zaandvoort files. Some of the brave survivors have tried to tell their stories but they have been disparaged and ridiculed. Regina Louf- the witness X1 who revealed her identity, has finally got admission from her mother and her pimp about what happened to her from age 2-16. Elderly neighbours interviewed have confirmed that her grandmother was a madame of a brothel that delivered child services. Some of the relatives of the children recognize them from the Zaandvoort files, yet there are no prosecutions of the criminals involved. Something is rotten in the state of Europe!

Regina Louf's testimony on BBC (1 of 7, see all 7!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg61N86dUIE

Regina Louf's testimony on France3 in French (1 of 7, see all 7!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmnervdWUw&feature=relmfu

Her book in French:
http://www.amazon.fr/Silence-enfants-Voyage-jusquau-r%C3%A9seau/dp/294031313X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1335770832&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.fr/Silence-tue-enfants-Regina-Louf/dp/2874020095/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335770832&sr=8-1

I would like to discuss what makes whole populations, indeed a whole continent, turn away from the truth when it gets too hot to handle? Why don't they show determination in saving the rest of the children today from this type of abuse? Even after Madelaine McCann's disappearance in Portugal (believed to be taken on-order by a Belgian network), these prosecutions have still not started! Shocking but true!

I believe that Marcel Vervloesem of the Workgroep Morkhoven made a big mistake when he sent copies of the Zaandvoort cd to the Belgian, British and Dutch Royal families. Clearly the cd alerted the office of King Albert of Belgium who was witnessed to have participated and enjoyed child S&M when he was still prince. As a result, Vervloesem has been imprisoned on what appear to be false and scurrilous charges by a strong invective, determined to keep the pedophile network file under wraps and anyone with a big mouth, out of the media. He languishes still in prison, while the courts load him up with gag-orders and "don't speak to media" or "participate in activist groups" orders.

However, if the Belgian Royal Family is at the very top of the pyramid behind this cover-up, then what about countries other than Belgium? France is a republic and so is Germany. And what of Britain where the royal family appears not to be involved? Have none of these nations any value for their precious children, even enough to catch the crimes' perpetrators with witnesses, photographs and film as evidence? Or is there a truly a "heart of darkness" across all nations, right to the top of the pyramid, where there is such uncontrollable sexual desire to hurt, maim and kill children, that no one can bring themselves to face or bring these crimes to justice?
 

Tigersoap

The Living Force
Re: Zandvoort File: Story of Marcel Vervloesem and the Elite Pedophile Networks

Hi Skptyk,

You may check this thread :

Dutroux Cover-up Protected Pedophile Networks

Skptyk said:
Or is there a truly a "heart of darkness" across all nations, right to the top of the pyramid, where there is such uncontrollable sexual desire to hurt, maim and kill children, that no one can bring themselves to face or bring these crimes to justice?

It has to do with psychopathy, so yes it is worldwide.
You may check this thread for links to various topics on the subject.
 

aragorn

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Just finished reading the whole thing, took me several days. Horror, horror, horror...at some points I felt pain in my stomach wanting to throw up. However, it felt important to keep reading in order to "share the pain" and remember those poor, poor kids.

I hope the documentary by Nick Bryant will be released soon.
 

SeekinTruth

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Aragorn said:
Just finished reading the whole thing, took me several days. Horror, horror, horror...at some points I felt pain in my stomach wanting to throw up. However, it felt important to keep reading in order to "share the pain" and remember those poor, poor kids.

I hope the documentary by Nick Bryant will be released soon.

I know how you feel. It's just impossible to really put into word the emotions stirred up and the physical upset.
 
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Gertrudes

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SeekinTruth said:
Aragorn said:
Just finished reading the whole thing, took me several days. Horror, horror, horror...at some points I felt pain in my stomach wanting to throw up. However, it felt important to keep reading in order to "share the pain" and remember those poor, poor kids.

I hope the documentary by Nick Bryant will be released soon.

I know how you feel. It's just impossible to really put into word the emotions stirred up and the physical upset.

I couldn't read it nor see the sott documentaries dealing with this and the french network till the end yet. I admit I couldn't bear it (yet)... If I can't bear it, how must it have been for the children who have actually gone through it??... It is absolutely unimaginable. Repulsive is the biggest understatement of the millennium.
 

Laura

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Gertrudes said:
I couldn't read it nor see the sott documentaries dealing with this and the french network till the end yet. I admit I couldn't bear it (yet)... If I can't bear it, how must it have been for the children who have actually gone through it??... It is absolutely unimaginable. Repulsive is the biggest understatement of the millennium.

I know exactly how you feel. The only thing that keeps me going is thinking that such things could happen to the child of anyone I know, could have happened to one of my children, and I would certainly want others to know about their suffering, my suffering, the dreadful problem of this sort of thing in our world, and not turn away and say "It's not about me, so it's not my business." Oy, but it is so hard.
 

Howzat

The Force is Strong With This One
Having just read this far in the thread (without yet having read the articles linked to at the top), I bumped straight away into this article on the Guardian website, where it was on the front page (yesterday) for a few hours:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/28/jersey-secrecy-culture

It details how the Jersey police chief leading the child abuse inquiry into the Haut de la Garenne children's home scandal was suddenly suspended for no satisfactory reason. The invisible wall that investigators run into when they get too close to something. In this case even when they are from the bastion of officialdom, a senior police officer doing his job in a case with global profile. His suspension was apparently engineered by shadowy 'elite forces' who are supposed to 'run the island.' The stench of corruption is unmistakable.

The mainstream reporting from the interface between the 'official' world where 'the people' decide their destiny, and the 'conspiracy' world where elites rule from behind the scenes (in turn controlled by - a hierarchy of? - 4-D entities further behind the scenes.) Why should a senior police chief be laid off when he is investigating a major child abuse scandal? Isn't that within the reach of the general public to grasp and be concerned about? Isn't that a fair subject to be reporting? The Guardian prodding a stick into the shadows as far as it dares.

Before moving to Jersey to take charge of the island's police in 2000, Graham Power had served in the senior ranks of four other forces in a career spanning more than 30 years. A recipient of the Queen's Medal for distinguished service, he had been vetted by UK authorities to "top secret" level and was so well regarded that he had also been appointed an assessor for the body that selects chief officers for UK constabularies.

But after eight successful years on Jersey, Power found himself suddenly suspended in what one local politician supporter believes was a "coup d'etat engineered by a small group of powerful people who denied him natural justice".

The initial suspension, which related to Power's management and supervision of a child abuse inquiry centred around Haut de la Garenne, a children's home on the island, continues to be a hugely controversial topic in Jersey. It's an episode which Jersey's critics see as a prime example of the way the island's elite treats those who dare to challenge their authority.
 

seek10

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Be said:
Having just read this far in the thread (without yet having read the articles linked to at the top), I bumped straight away into this article on the Guardian website, where it was on the front page (yesterday) for a few hours:

The mainstream reporting from the interface between the 'official' world where 'the people' decide their destiny, and the 'conspiracy' world where elites rule from behind the scenes (in turn controlled by - a hierarchy of? - 4-D entities further behind the scenes.) Why should a senior police chief be laid off when he is investigating a major child abuse scandal? Isn't that within the reach of the general public to grasp and be concerned about? Isn't that a fair subject to be reporting? The Guardian prodding a stick into the shadows as far as it dares.
It looks pedophilia is the biggest HOOK to control all the pathologicals in layers of power in all fields ( government, business, media etc). There seems to be NO tolerance to the expose in this matter unlike other topics like war, murder, fun and games of industrial complexes. Sad state of affairs indeed.
 

SoCurious

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It looks pedophilia is the biggest HOOK to control all the pathologicals in layers of power in all fields ( government, business, media etc).

I think you've squarely fingered the problem.
 

bngenoh

The Living Force
This article by Joe: http://www.sott.net/article/253598-The-BBC-Protecting-Pedophiles-and-War-Criminals-Since-2004

Reminded me of a dream I had about a week ago. I became aware in the dream when a woman in red said "there will be no war if turkey doesn't give up ankara (or was it ankara doesn't give up turkey?) Anyways, I don't think that meant much other than to show some political connection assuming that she was speaking about the country.

Now, this woman was a mother and her son was there as well, I only know this because he followed her to a room that looked like a closet but turned out to be a bathroom. What I saw in there hit me like nothing else ever has, the boy was raped, by a man who was performing this sick act like it was the most normal thing to do, the mother did nothing while her son was screaming. I will spare you the filthy blood soaked details but suffice it so say, I woke up wanting to vomit, this is the first time I have ever been so revolted. My dreams have showed me much on the topic of abuse of women and children in various dark places, but none have hit me like this one.

There really is no way to co-exist with such creatures, our natures are different at a fundamental level, to quote Gurdjieff, "the being of two people can differ from one another more than the being of a mineral and of an animal. This is exactly what people do not understand. And they do not understand that knowledge depends on being. Not only do they not understand this latter but they definitely do not wish to understand it.”

If people ever realize what these creatures stand for, represent and have done, that will be a day to remember. Whatever the being inside humans stands for, may represent and can do, these creatures stand for the opposite or have no being at all.
 

Mariama

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I read the article over the week-end, except for the notes, which I will read later.

I reacted in different ways to the article.
At one point I thought I was going mad, at one point I wanted to destroy the world, started dissociating (going away in my head) for a while and my frozen shoulder started acting up, together with pain in my neck.
But I also observed a destructive "I" in myself. I had some bizarre thoughts while reading.
I must have internalized the perversion of my caretakers/members of my family, OSIT. Maybe it is also a weird kind of defence mechanism?

I found this quote in 'Betrayal Trauma' by Jennifer J. Freyd, daughter of Pamela Freyd, one of the co-founders of FMSF, False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which I thought was rather apt.
The FMSF is mentioned in the beginning of the article? I am not sure, everything has started to blur a bit.

from Betrayal Trauma said:
Approximately eight months after I first presented betrayal trauma theory, my parents, in conjunction with Ralph Underwager and others, formed the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF). Before the organization was formed, my mother, Pamela Freyd, had published an article presenting her version of family history under the name "Jane Doe" (Doe 1991). The Jane Doe article, when circulated to my professional colleagues and to the media by my mother, made public allegations about my professional and personal life, at the same time that it helped spawn the false memory movement. With the incorporation of the FMSF, my personal situation continued to become more public, and I began to receive almost daily queries and comments from my colleagues about this situation.
During the next two years I grew increasingly uncomfortable with the way in which my own efforts to work on betrayal trauma theory were constantly being undermined by personalized reactions from any professional colleagues, who had come to believe various things about me through the popular and national media (see, for example, Weiss 1993).
I was also uncomfortable with the way a distorted version of my story was being used by the FMSF and the media to create the impression that most adult women who recover memories of childhood abuse are deluded, unstable, or under the undue influence of others. In August 1993, two years after my mother's Jane Doe article and a year and a half after the formation of the FMSF, I broke my public silence and, at a mental health continuing education conference in Ann Arbor, Michigan, presented my perspective on my family of origin and the formation of the FMSF (Freyd 1993b).
Having spoken my personal truth, and having addressed the issues necessary to meet my own standards of integrity and honesty, I have since returned my attention to the development of betrayal trauma theory. Yet hardly a day goes by that my work is not interrupted by challenges to my integrity or attempts to derail my work. Sometimes these challenges are quite intrusive. Other times they are obtrusive: in 1994 an FMSF member picketed the front of the building in which I work.
This pattern of diverting attention from the message to the messenger has shown up in the academic and scholarly world at large (see Chapter 3). It emerges, too, when children and adult victims of abuse who dare to attempt to communicate their experiences suffer attacks on their credibility. We see it in the current societal debate about recovered memories. This pattern is so pervasive and central that it ultimately demands explanation by the very theories that attempt to account for the psychological response to sexual abuse. If people who dare to speak about sexual abuse are attacked by those whom they have relied on and trusted, is it any wonder that unawareness and silence are so common?
 
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