Effects of the wave as emotional sensate?

[davey72]

I am not sure how to word this, but i just went through a spell that seems to happen every so often, starting a few years ago. I was/am an opiate addict, and what happens is very much like opiate withdrawal for me. I get extremely anxious, with panic attack type of feelings. It is hard to explain. I even notice that my pupils are very big at this time, as if i was going through opiate withdrawal, but there is no chance that this is the case. I cannot sleep, and when i do i have very bad dreams,etc. I was thinking of this last night, and thought of something i had heard, which was emotional sensate, as in the wave creating an ever growing state of such. If i remember correctly, this is an effect that the wave will have on people, and i am wondering if this is some type of affect, or bleedthrough? Perhaps i should have posted this in the q's to the c's section, but i always feel that i shouldn't be asking personal questions. Has anyone noticed these types of feelings before? They can be very extreme, and if it is any indication of what the wave will bring, then i know i have a lot of work ahead of me, and it will be an extreme struggle for me, as these are the feelings that i have been suppressing with drugs my whole life. This is the worst feeling i can ever imagine going through. I remember that if it wasn't for this extreme anxiety, and restlessness, that withdrawal would have been easy for me. If it was just extreme pain, and sickness, could have quit long ago. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[Mrs. Peel]

I am not sure how to word this, but i just went through a spell that seems to happen every so often, starting a few years ago. I was/am an opiate addict, and what happens is very much like opiate withdrawal for me. I get extremely anxious, with panic attack type of feelings. It is hard to explain. I even notice that my pupils are very big at this time, as if i was going through opiate withdrawal, but there is no chance that this is the case. I cannot sleep, and when i do i have very bad dreams,etc. I was thinking of this last night, and thought of something i had heard, which was emotional sensate, as in the wave creating an ever growing state of such. If i remember correctly, this is an effect that the wave will have on people, and i am wondering if this is some type of affect, or bleedthrough? Perhaps i should have posted this in the q's to the c's section, but i always feel that i shouldn't be asking personal questions. Has anyone noticed these types of feelings before? They can be very extreme, and if it is any indication of what the wave will bring, then i know i have a lot of work ahead of me, and it will be an extreme struggle for me, as these are the feelings that i have been suppressing with drugs my whole life. This is the worst feeling i can ever imagine going through. I remember that if it wasn't for this extreme anxiety, and restlessness, that withdrawal would have been easy for me. If it was just extreme pain, and sickness, could have quit long ago. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Well, if I recall, you went through some bad experiences that led to your addiction in the first place, which could possibly explain having panic attacks and anxiety in the first place. Add to it years of addiction, and your attempts to get clean, and to me it seems that long-term brain chemistry imbalances and all the microwave "beaming" going on out there (which one is more susceptible to when eating evil food) may be playing a huge part here more so than any sort of "bleedthrough."

How is your diet? Are you doing EE (without the breatha) regularly?

 

[Rick3]

Hi Davey72. I am a recovering alcoholic, dry for three years, ten months - and, by the way, I still go through those withdrawal-like experiences, panic attacks, anxiety and insomnia. All I can say is that it's worth surviving them - and they happen less and less frequently. Two essentials: your 'higher power' and your relationship with your higher power and attending N/A meetings. Obviously the desire to stay clean preceeds these two things. It's worth it, I promise. And You are worth it.

 

[herondancer]

Hi Davey72,

Another possibility may be that as you practice the pipe breathing and meditation, the layers of defense you've built against those terrible experiences are starting to peel off. Each layer could has the emotional "flavour" of the traumas you were medicating/hiding from. Patience with yourself and with the process will pay off as Rick3 has said. Is it a continuous sense of panic, or do you have stretches where you feel balanced and ok? Pipe breathing can be done at any time. From what I understand, a panic attack can be felt as it it developing. If you can remember to start pipe breathing before things really start rolling, you might be able to short-circuit the pattern. This will begin to rewire your brain in a healthy way.

Hang in there! Remember where you were a year ago. You've made a wonderful amount of progress. Just keep that determination going with the proper diet and EE, and whatever counselling you're getting. We're all rooting for you! :)

 

[SeekinTruth]

Hi Davey72,

Another possibility may be that as you practice the pipe breathing and meditation, the layers of defense you've built against those terrible experiences are starting to peel off. Each layer could has the emotional "flavour" of the traumas you were medicating/hiding from. Patience with yourself and with the process will pay off as Rick3 has said. Is it a continuous sense of panic, or do you have stretches where you feel balanced and ok? Pipe breathing can be done at any time. From what I understand, a panic attack can be felt as it it developing. If you can remember to start pipe breathing before things really start rolling, you might be able to short-circuit the pattern. This will begin to rewire your brain in a healthy way.

Hang in there! Remember where you were a year ago. You've made a wonderful amount of progress. Just keep that determination going with the proper diet and EE, and whatever counselling you're getting. We're all rooting for you! :)

I'll second what herondancer wrote, and especially the part I made bold. :)

 

[Ca.]

Well, if I recall, you went through some bad experiences that led to your addiction in the first place, which could possibly explain having panic attacks and anxiety in the first place. Add to it years of addiction, and your attempts to get clean, and to me it seems that long-term brain chemistry imbalances and all the microwave "beaming" going on out there (which one is more susceptible to when eating evil food) may be playing a huge part here more so than any sort of "bleedthrough."

How is your diet? Are you doing EE (without the breatha) regularly?

Aim sorry to continue to play this record, over, and over, but a excellent way to to repair the damage of any addiction will be promoted by a rigorous, and a daily exercise routine. It will help to rewire the brain, and provide a the necessary nutrients for promoting a healthy brain chemistry to repairer the damage. Now that you are knowledgeable of the physical, and mental health benefits of Mrs Peels questions, you will see, all are interconnected that could reap incredible changes.

The ghost signature of the addiction, sense's it's being termanted, so i think that the dreams represent it's attempt to regain the the foot hold it once had. It's fading, so this may appear as flash backs, as symptom's as you have described, in the form of physical manifestations.

Fresh air in the outdoors, stimulating, blood circulating, activity will add to your defence to fight the condition you are experiencing .

Also a few prayers in your support can't hurt eather.

EXERCISE & ADDICTION RECOVERY Apr 26, 2011 | By Kristi Abbott
Exert: from http://www.livestrong.com/article/241477-exercise-addiction-recovery/

PREVENTION/SOLUTION
Exercise can help prevent relapsing by giving you the strength that you need to stay away from your addictions. When your body is strong, and your mind is clear and open, you are able to find other positive ways to expend your energy.

Exercise is not the only way that you are going to be successful in your recovery, and it is important to continue any other treatment that you are receiving. It can be a tool that you can have to aid in your recovery and stay on the right path.

Exercise Leads to Positive Recovery Results in Recovery
Exert from: http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/drug-addiction-treatments/exercise-leads-to-positive-results-in-recovery/

In the 2009 edition of Principles of Addiction Medicine, Dr. James O. Prochaska states that “physical activity helps manage moods, stress, and distress. Also, 60 minutes per week of exercise can provide a recovering person with more than 50 health and mental health benefits. Exercise thus should be prescribed to all sedentary patients with addiction.”

Additionally, alternative physical activities, such as breathing exercises, meditation, yoga, or prayer have also been connected to significant reductions in alcohol consumption for alcoholics. Murphy, Pagano, and Marlatt concluded in their 1986 study, "Lifestyle Modification with Heavy Alcohol Drinkers: Effects of Aerobic Exercise and Meditation," that regular meditation practice and daily aerobic exercise were especially effective in reducing alcohol use among heavy drinkers and produced a sense of self-control and balance. Shonna Porter, a mental health practitioner and exercise physiologist from Gig Harbor, WA, incorporates cognitive-behavioral therapy and physical fitness regimens for her clients to help treat depression, anxiety, and addiction disorders. Porter believes that behavioral disorders—such as food addictions, eating disorders, sex addiction, Internet addiction, and mood disorders—are rooted in emotional, physiological issues that have not been properly dealt with or managed. Emotional suppression, Porter teaches, directly affects the decisions one makes and the way one manages himself or herself physically due to distressed self-image. She treats her clients with an emphasis on the mind-body connection, based on the belief that a healthy state of mind and healthy body work together in producing a healthy lifestyle.

 

[davey72]

Thanks for the replies.i will be brief,as am using my phone. I am doing quite a bit of meditation wirhout beatha, and sonetimes with when i am balanced. The odd time. I do have streches of normalcy. Or rather these are the streches,as maybe i am being attacked at those rimes? Cause it qould usually end with gettibg high. Even if it is just once. The one thing that really makes me wonder is the pupil siE. Tgey are huge ubtil it is over.

 

[anart]

Thanks for the replies.i will be brief,as am using my phone. I am doing quite a bit of meditation wirhout beatha, and sonetimes with when i am balanced. The odd time. I do have streches of normalcy. Or rather these are the streches,as maybe i am being attacked at those rimes? Cause it qould usually end with gettibg high. Even if it is just once. The one thing that really makes me wonder is the pupil siE. Tgey are huge ubtil it is over.

Davey, until you are 100% clean for at least a year, this is going to continue to happen. Until you are in a position to completely clear up your diet, there will also be issues with anxiety and panic. There is NO way around this. You have to be strong and hold on and give your body the time it needs to heal - that means ZERO drugs - not even just once in a while, or you start all over again. It also means eventually getting your diet clean (zero gluten, zero dairy, zero sugar, high animal fat and very low carbs). There is no need for 'attack' by outside forces - this is all physiological at this point.

 

[davey72]

Thanks for the replies.i will be brief,as am using my phone. I am doing quite a bit of meditation wirhout beatha, and sonetimes with when i am balanced. The odd time. I do have streches of normalcy. Or rather these are the streches,as maybe i am being attacked at those rimes? Cause it qould usually end with gettibg high. Even if it is just once. The one thing that really makes me wonder is the pupil siE. Tgey are huge ubtil it is over.

Davey, until you are 100% clean for at least a year, this is going to continue to happen. Until you are in a position to completely clear up your diet, there will also be issues with anxiety and panic. There is NO way around this. You have to be strong and hold on and give your body the time it needs to heal - that means ZERO drugs - not even just once in a while, or you start all over again. It also means eventually getting your diet clean (zero gluten, zero dairy, zero sugar, high animal fat and very low carbs). There is no need for 'attack' by outside forces - this is all physiological at this point.

This certainly makes sense, it is just so odd that it becomes that sever for a short period of time, maybe two or three times pee year, even when i was on. A hifh dose of methadone. I even once accused my pharmacist of shortchanging me.

 

[Chopper]

Hang tuff davey , I have seen the pupil thing in ppl reliveing " things" and were not dependent on any drugs / alcohol or such,

It was just so real to them ( what ever it was) going through thier minds all the body sensations manifested also..

all my best for you !

 

[davey72]

Hang tuff davey , I have seen the pupil thing in ppl reliveing " things" and were not dependent on any drugs / alcohol or such,

It was just so real to them ( what ever it was) going through thier minds all the body sensations manifested also..

all my best for you !

Hmm. This seems to be what i was waiting to hear. Makes sense, as i noticed this last tim that i seem to work myself up.

 

[Chopper]

Glad it helped , most times I saw it happen was ppl reliveing a pretty bad car & bike accident .
Fear really seems to be a big driver with it all .


Keep up the good work you are doing on yourself ! lessons are sposta be fun ;D
You are a remarkable person , most don't have the awareness/self control to come back from total sensate
my hats off to you.

 

[davey72]

Honestly dont know about remarkable, but it is difficult for me. I really dont like feeling so much. Hopefully it will get easier. I am reminded of the movie "equilibrium"

 

[bngenoh]

Hi davey72,

The part about dialated pupils is really interesting. Because "I" have noted that as well. Though "I" have not ever dabbled with opiates, the parallels with withdrawl symptoms seems right, and i will explain.

"I" see carbohydrates as a drug, and eating them as a kind of drug use. Humans have been doing this for over 5000 years, so a very strong biological program has been set up in the genetic body. Know "I" decided to go no carb, and man did this program activate, but i always remembered what i am striving for, and that "food" is the raw materials with which the temple that is the body is built, and i want to build a temple that is as strong as i can make it.

"I" started fasting on Thursday and broke my fast today, and the death throws of that malefecent bioprogram was quite strong, it caused much chaos, but i remembered that breath is life and so began to breathe, and also that the only way out of this situation is through it CONSCIOUSLY. "I" have also been having "bad" dreams where there various creatures, that "I" am fighting, guess this is just me processing various emotions, programs, etc. Thanks to EE

But, you seem to be holding your own, just remember your will & goal when your down in the dumps, and also that we are in the process of changing an inherency that has been fixed in humans for millenia, it definitely is not going to be easy, and its not going to happen overnight, you probably will lose many battles (like i have), but remember the loser learns more than the winner. Dust youself off and get back up again, never give up, and you will reach your goal. You gotta learn when to be kind to yourself and when to be merciless towards yourself.

Just my thoughts fwiw.

 

[davey72]

Whoah1! Awesome. I never thought of that. Ya,and gluten, and casien bind to yer opiate receptors. Very interesting. I have always wondered if this drug affect somehow more firmly entrenches one into this 3d reality?