Exquisite Music from Mali, Senegal and Gambia

SolarSoul

SolarSoul

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For me the people of Mali, Senegal and Gambia have developed the finest and highly evolved musical artform. Tot only are they for me personally one of the most beautifully looking people but also have one of the most beautifully melodic flowing languages. The combination of elegance, melancholy, surrender,warmth, strength and melodic complexity and precision without the loss of harmony is truly breathtaking.
I have noticed that by LISTENING to a peoples music and language you can perceive the quality of their soul-consiousness (if such an odd term can be allowed), or the way they SUPRESS it.
I am not doing any lobbying here just to be clear, I have no personal ties to these countries at least not in my present incarnation. My physical genetics are half German half igbo/Nigerian and both of these do not have the exquisite sense of beauty and sensitivity. The germans are too stiff, cold and overly rational, while the igbos are too gross, clumsy and materialistic. I do not try to generalize here but I have noticed that nations and peoples, do create a sort of collective carpet of consciousness that has specific qualities to it. The more unaware people are the more passively they partake in this field. For me the whole human consciousness is a very negative state of existence that has except for some rare exceptions a disgusting fragrance to it.

Here some examples of exceptional pieces:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muKYuDVs_kk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB_EEFcM6TE&list=FLwssWy1ONRfGot7kz-kWwYQ&index=33
 
Re: excuisit beauty

Sorry this piece here was intended to be part of the post above. Note that Sona is the first female to be allowed to play the kora and she is from the linage of a great griot bloodline. And these are very ancient traditional songs!! what poetry:

in the quiet of the Moment, my Soul sings out, while my Spirit dances upon the strings with my hands held out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oToZfPGMMBY
 
Thank you SolarSoul for these music clips. I enjoyed the first and the third very much. These musicians have such a natural, and highly skillful way of playing quite complicated rhythmic patterns. They also seemed to be enjoying themselves very much - as you say, music making with a soul. What is that "drum" called, that the percussionist is playing? I would like to have one of those in my music class :)

I suspect the title was changed to describe the content more accurately. There are so many, many threads on this forum - new and old, and making them more searchable (in case you need to look them up later) makes it more convenient.
 
Thank you for the reply Aragorn. I dont know the name of the Drum, it is made of a big kalabash I guess.
 
SolarSoul said:
Why was my subject-line changed? There was a reason why it was called exqisit beauty.
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You spelled it "excuisit". We try to make subject fields representative of content AND google friendly.
 
Ok I understand. But I wanted to express something more specific with my post than just promoting traditional music from a certain region.
 
I loved Rokia Traoré's M'bifo. Beautiful. I'm listening to another one from her, Déli, right now. Just as beautiful, if not more so. Thank you SolarSoul. God bless all traditional music.
 
So beautiful music! Thank you very much. African music is incredible. I have a friend who is a musician and he told me one day that all music comes from Africa. And rhythm, and tempo. Everything in music comes from Africa.
 
SolarSoul said:
Ok I understand. But I wanted to express something more specific with my post than just promoting traditional music from a certain region.
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You are entitled to say whatever you like in your post within reason; however, external considering dictates that the subject field should be clear.
 
Very nice music, SolarSoul, Thanks for posting.

I watched some of the other videos of Sona Jobarteh's. Very sweet and deep.

Mac
 
You may also be interested in the artist Salif Keita. A song is below

salif keita - ananamin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UURHu2PFaY

What do you mean when you say

while the igbos are too gross, clumsy and materialistic.
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I question all 3.

But I am mostly curious as to what you mean by gross?

Maybe you should see this, just in case.
 
Even though I don't understand the lyrics, the music and her voice are very beautiful. It made the hair stand up on my arms. Thanks for sharing SolarSoul. :)
 
OK I know Salif of course. He is a great artist.

Know let me shoot, lucky Luke:

This has nothing to do with racism internal external. This was just meant in relation of the capability of expressing a certain type of beauty through music. In that sense just like there are different people there are different characteristics in nations, and even races. I was just trying to show that I was not lobbying for something I was identifying with, as most people are so deeply stuck in their nationalities that they cannot even start to SEE objectively. I could take any nationality and do the same. Like an American is so far away from being capable of expressing this kind of sensitivity that I do not even need to mention it, he can only smear around his slimy emotionalism. Or an Britt is not even able to form such words with his mouth his lips are too stiff and hard. :lol:
Germans and Igbos are just those I know best and I know precisely their weaknesses as I am part of them. An igboman has other strengths and his music is in relation to like traditional Germanic music highly complex and fine, but it has a completely different tone to it. He enjoys life too much he loves pleasure that's why his music will never be melancholic. Even if he sings something sad it will have a happy tone.
If you could see the difference between personality and Consciousness. When I judge cultures or nations I do not judge the beings as such but the structure in which the being is trapped, the program so to speak.
Now there is one of those strange "accidents" that happened just now. OK two days ago I read a wonderfull mystical poem of Ibn Arabi that moved me deeply and I wanted to listen to the Islamic call to prayer the AZAN and I looked on youtube and found one. It was so beautifully to listen to it because I saw that the person who made this prayer saw the infinite oneness with his heart, and tears streamed down my face.....
So I just wanted to write something about the power of this prayer and I knew it was Bilal, an African who was the first one to SING the azan, but then I checked on wiki and to my surprise I found this:
The descendants of Bilal ibn Rabah al-Habashi are said to have migrated to the land of Mali in Africa.[19] Furthermore, Bilal's decedents established the Mandinka clan Keita, who later helped to construct the Mali Empire So there is something special about this people at least musically I dont care if you find this politically incorrect. They also have some of the most powerfull and authentic mystical islamic Sufi clans.
The ancient European philosophers where very persistent in this point too, that a person needs to be musically educated to be a full human being. To be admitted into the secred orders one had to be fully educated in several fields of knowledge and music was one of them. Beauty was seen as belonging to the realm of the divine and the artist was the translator between the world of gods and the world of men.
In traditional African societies music is seen as a spiritual force that needs to be handled with care and skill. And now look at what we are bombarded with from every corner in terms of modern popmusic, this is not only disrespectfull but also dangerous. Today we are totally oblivious to the forces that souround us and that we are playing with and we do not see the effects they have on our lives. And then we wonder why people are so spiritually impotent and struck with metaphysical blindness.
What I am trying to say here is that there is a specific aspect in the minds of the people that suppresses their real consciousness or soul or whatever you want to call it and this manifests in certain behaviours, on a personal level on a national level, on a racial level and so forth.
I do not see this as a problem of the evil guys in power or psychopaths and other scapegoats. It is the common man who is the problem the "normal" people create and maintain this system, those in power are just in a more prominent position and I dont think that they are really more "evil" than the average man in the street. They are just in a more powerfull position to execute their behaviour. And who puts them in their place?
 
Music is powerful indeed.

What got me is the wide brush strokes you are using to describe people.

Or an Britt is not even able to form such words with his mouth his lips are too stiff and hard.
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Like an American is so far away from being capable of expressing this kind of sensitivity that I do not even need to mention it, he can only smear around his slimy emotionalism.
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Not every single person within those cultures conform to what you are saying. I think! Not every single, or even the majority of igbo is gross, materialistic and clumsy. I think!

Part of what you are saying is true, but certainly not all of it. OSIT!

I do not see this as a problem of the evil guys in power or psychopaths and other scapegoats. It is the common man who is the problem the "normal" people create and maintain this system, those in power are just in a more prominent position and I dont think that they are really more "evil" than the average man in the street. They are just in a more powerfull position to execute their behaviour. And who puts them in their place?
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Well I think normal people do have responsibility as well in the state of affairs but I think it is not accurate to say, those in power are not really more evil than average people. I think if you look at the research into psychopathy and see that they are incapable of empathy, then you can't say what you did. A normal person has the ability to feel, whether he chooses to do so is another matter, but a psychopath has no such ability. If you give them power, they will use it against normal people.

Maybe you might find this interesting?

Splitting as a Symptom of Internal Considering

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31760.0.html
 
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