Fibroids

[Pluchi]

Hello!
Has anyone in this forum successfully treated fibroids? I have had 4 surgeries to remove them in 2001, 2011, 2012, 2017, but now they are back and one of them is huge; it pokes out and shows like a 15-week pregnancy uterus. I have a good diet, do intermittent fasting, and have tried *everything* for years: Enzymes, iodine protocol, pills (cannot remember the name but it stopped my periods for 6 months), red-light therapy, and nothing worked. Do you know a good approach that actually works and does not involve cutting? e.g., removing the uterus, or removing the fibroids once again. I am 51 years old, still having periods-- they are getting heavier and longer again. I read the fibroids thread, but I do not see any successful treatment, just advice on what to take and I have already tried therapies. They really do not work, especially when fibroids are big (5+ cms). A reason I do not want to remove my uterus is that blood transfusions are needed and I worry about receiving blood from vaccinated people. In the past, I didn't want to remove my uterus because I wanted to have a baby, but I could never get pregnant because of the condition of my uterus. Thank you for the advice.

 

[Lyndi]

Hello!
Has anyone in this forum successfully treated fibroids? I have had 4 surgeries to remove them in 2001, 2011, 2012, 2017, but now they are back and one of them is huge; it pokes out and shows like a 15-week pregnancy uterus. I have a good diet, do intermittent fasting, and have tried *everything* for years: Enzymes, iodine protocol, pills (cannot remember the name but it stopped my periods for 6 months), red-light therapy, and nothing worked. Do you know a good approach that actually works and does not involve cutting? e.g., removing the uterus, or removing the fibroids once again. I am 51 years old, still having periods-- they are getting heavier and longer again. I read the fibroids thread, but I do not see any successful treatment, just advice on what to take and I have already tried therapies. They really do not work, especially when fibroids are big (5+ cms). A reason I do not want to remove my uterus is that blood transfusions are needed and I worry about receiving blood from vaccinated people. In the past, I didn't want to remove my uterus because I wanted to have a baby, but I could never get pregnant because of the condition of my uterus. Thank you for the advice.

That's a lot of suffering you've had there, Pluchi.

Have you looked into homeopathy? I've found it very effective for us and our pets. Perhaps you have used it, as homeopathy is very favourably mentioned on this forum. I can't report on success with treating fibroids, but my experience with cancer and homeopathy plus diet, herbs and supplements was successful, for example.

I just copy one link on homeopathy and fibroids here in case you haven't looked into homeopathy for the problem.

Top Natural Homeopathic Medicines for Uterine Fibroids - Homeopathy

Natural homeopathic medicines for uterine fibroids are Thlaspi Bursa Pastoris, Calcarea Carb, Belladonna, Sepia Officinalis, Ustilago Maydis, Sabina.

www.drhomeo.com

 

[SevenFeathers]

I agree with Lyndi Lama. Try homeopathy, it won't hurt, and it might help! Here's another website I refer to: fibroids - Hpathy.com. And if you could find a homeopath to consult with, that would be even better. I wish I had known about homeopathy back when I had fibroids in my late 30s.

 

[Magnolia]

DMSO is my standby med. When in doubt, I try it out. It's lovely, and has no side effects for me, although some people get "garlic breath" or indigestion from it.

Black seed oil (nigella sativa) was recently introduced to me, and I'm currently experimenting to understand how it might help certain issues. There is a forum thread on Black seed oil but it's only 2 pages. There are also some websites that connect black seed oil to fibroid improvement, although I can't speak to their validity or honesty.

 

[Pluchi]

That's a lot of suffering you've had there, Pluchi.

Have you looked into homeopathy? I've found it very effective for us and our pets. Perhaps you have used it, as homeopathy is very favourably mentioned on this forum. I can't report on success with treating fibroids, but my experience with cancer and homeopathy plus diet, herbs and supplements was successful, for example.

I just copy one link on homeopathy and fibroids here in case you haven't looked into homeopathy for the problem.

Top Natural Homeopathic Medicines for Uterine Fibroids - Homeopathy

Natural homeopathic medicines for uterine fibroids are Thlaspi Bursa Pastoris, Calcarea Carb, Belladonna, Sepia Officinalis, Ustilago Maydis, Sabina.

www.drhomeo.com

Hello, Lyndi Lama! No, I haven't seen a homeopath. I tried herbs with a "witch doctor" when I lived in Venezuela, I particularly remember taking graviola (guanabana/soursop) leaves mixed with other herbs.
Thank you for the advice, I will read the link that you put here. If it helped you with cancer, it should help with fibroids too. I suspect that the problem is my diet, there must be something I am eating that makes them grow. I truly appreciate your response, I will find a homeopath in my area.

 

[Pluchi]

I agree with Lyndi Lama. Try homeopathy, it won't hurt, and it might help! Here's another website I refer to: fibroids - Hpathy.com. And if you could find a homeopath to consult with, that would be even better. I wish I had known about homeopathy back when I had fibroids in my late 30s.

Hello, SevenFeathers!
I will definitely look for a homeopath. It might be the answer to all this!
Thank you for the advice and the link!

 

[Pluchi]

DMSO is my standby med. When in doubt, I try it out. It's lovely, and has no side effects for me, although some people get "garlic breath" or indigestion from it.

Black seed oil (nigella sativa) was recently introduced to me, and I'm currently experimenting to understand how it might help certain issues. There is a forum thread on Black seed oil but it's only 2 pages. There are also some websites that connect black seed oil to fibroid improvement, although I can't speak to their validity or honesty.

Hello, Magnolia!
I never heard of DMSO before, so I just read about it and the description is a bit... , it says it is a by product of the paper industry. I know there are scare tactics online so we don't get remedies, but I will try with a homeopath, that way he/she can guide me. I might even get DMSO or black seed oil!
Thank you so much for replying!

 

[Pluchi]

That's a lot of suffering you've had there, Pluchi.

Have you looked into homeopathy? I've found it very effective for us and our pets. Perhaps you have used it, as homeopathy is very favourably mentioned on this forum. I can't report on success with treating fibroids, but my experience with cancer and homeopathy plus diet, herbs and supplements was successful, for example.

I just copy one link on homeopathy and fibroids here in case you haven't looked into homeopathy for the problem.

Top Natural Homeopathic Medicines for Uterine Fibroids - Homeopathy

Natural homeopathic medicines for uterine fibroids are Thlaspi Bursa Pastoris, Calcarea Carb, Belladonna, Sepia Officinalis, Ustilago Maydis, Sabina.

www.drhomeo.com

Oh! I just remembered, Lyndi Lama, I tried Chinese medicine while I lived in China. The lady doctor was super-old and highly recommended by my Chinese friends, she said that my blood was too cold, she gave me herbs to get rid of the fibroids, I went back consultation after consultation, she changed the medicine accordingly--it tasted so horrible, but nothing happened, the fibroids continued growing.

I will look for a homeopath, he/she would probably do a blood work to see what is going on.

Thank you so much for your advice!

 

[kinyash]

Hi Lyndi Lama, thank you for sharing your struggle with fibroids. My wife had the same and they caused quite a scare when she was pregnant many years ago. Later she had them removed and, thankfully, they did not recur. From what you have written I would guess you have thrown everything you can including some strange and exotic treatments at the condition

Just a thought, but have you tried to look at possible energetic causes? I looked up Fibroids in Louise Hays “ You can heal your life”, and she says that Fibroids can manifest from “Nursing hurt from a partner. A blow to the feminine ego.”
Our human psyche is very complex and sometimes we store a lot of stuff internally that can manifest in different ways. Certainly you should look at the physical side of things and possible causes in your diet, but I also suggest you do a deep dive into your feelings. I would also suggest EE in conjunction with doing some objective retrospection. A good therapist can be a great help.
You have lived with this issue for a long time and I empathize with your journey. What lessons have you learnt from your condition? Having the courage to share here is a great start at getting a solution. I wish you much love and success in your journey here on the forum.

 

[Mililea]

Hello Pluchi,
I immediately thought of a book in which I have already found a lot that fits. It is "Illness as a Symbol" by Rüdiger Dahlke. I don't know if the book is also available in English. But here is the part about myoma. You might find a clue here as to why they still appear.

Myoma
(Myoma uteri)
Body level: uterus (fertility, security).

Symptom level: unfulfilled or unconscious desire for offspring: the child-sized myoma at the site of childbearing; outgrowths at the fertility level ("it's to grow out of"); the unconscious desire for fertility exceeds the number of children; often arise from the discrepancy between social pressures of modernity and the old tradition of having lots of children; sometimes grow when the woman's old-age security threatens to fail, because in evolution children were the old answer to the problem: giving old, outdated answers to the challenges of modern life; misguided but benign growth: having slipped to a regressive level of the body, because usually outdated by life time.

Processing: raising fertility and growth to spiritual-mental level; having spiritual children; creating redeemed outlets for one's own fertility, e.g. intellectual, artistic creativity and proliferating ideas; providing for reliable old-age security as early as possible.

Redemption: realise the archetype of the Great Mother: become a mother to new life - depending on the age at the appropriate level.
Primordial reference: Moon-Jupiter.

 

[KTC]

I live with fibroids. I manage with a healthy lifestyle. I wouldn't have surgery despite the Dr telling me it was 'the only way'. I wouldn't go on the chopping board again unless my life depended on it. I had a forced C-section under the pressure of hospital staff but I wouldn't surgically remove fibroids unless it was a life threatening situation.
For me, understanding hormones has changed my life and my relationship with fibroids. Fibroids are associated with excess estrogen so this needs to be dealt with. An operation gets rid of the end result of excess estrogen which is fibroids but it doesnt change the hormonal imbalance which needs to be number one priority.
When the body is out of balance it will communicate with signs and symptoms and a fibroid (IMO) is a sign of imbalance. It is not however the issue which is why they keep coming back if the issue is not dealt with.

This is what I do:
Intermittent fast and eat in sync with my cycle. Are you still menstruating or not and I'll explain my choices and how to eat/fast for the cycle vs for menopause and why this is important for hormone balancing.
Weekly bone broths
Infrared sauna 2 - 3 times weekly
HBOT 2 times weekly (I started with 30 sessions in quick succession)
red light therapy pad when needed (if I'm uncomfortable)
avoid alcohol
test for ketones & know your insulin levels - I started with a blood test monitor but now I am intuitive with it.
ph test urine to make sure I am alkaline. I have noticed that if I have a flare up my ph will be acidic so then I do all the above super power plus avoid all acidic food/drink
digestive enzymes if I eat something that is not good for me
A clean liver is key when it comes to estrogen dominance so you need a healthy gut and a clean liver to be able to rid the body of excess hormones.

 

[KTC]

When you say you have 'tried' therapies what does that mean? To me you say you 'gave it a go' but it didn't fix you so you gave it up.
If that is the case, nothing is going to change for you I'm afraid. Coming from someone who lives with fibroids, I had one that was as big as a rockmelon so I understand size. It tends to go from an orange to a grapefruit in size. The issue is really only if its painful and when it is I know I'm not doing what I need to be doing for my health.

I see my fibroids as a gift, communicating with me something isn't right, that I am out of balance and learning to live in harmony, using therapies and lifestyle as a lifelong commitment is what worked for me. I decided that I had 2 choices - to be a person who looked for someone to fix me or to fix myself and commit to fixing myself every single day no matter what. I chose the second option which is also the hardest with a long term commitment but I've never met anyone who had one surgery and was sorted. I do work with many women who have had multiple surgeries and suffer ongoing pain from excessive scar tissue and yet they continue to go back for more, looking for someone to fix them. It's a cycle of surgeries and regrowth, feeding the system that keeps them stuck. Makes no sense to me but its what the system trains us to do.

On top of lifestyle choices and ongoing alternative therapies, synthetic estrogen is everywhere. Plastics, paints, perfumes, toys, furniture, body products, foods, pesticides, make-up, fashion - if it's manufactured it has endocrine disruptors in it. What is your environment like? Where can you reduce the toxic load in a World of toxicity? All of this counts and all of this has to be intentional to work. There is no quick fix.

Menopause may help ease some of the issue but sex hormones keep producing even post menopause and if your liver is not recycling the excess estrogen it will still build up. I'm happy to discuss the process further. Some good resources are: Dr Mindy Pelz and Dr Stephanie Estima if you look them both up. I teach the Estima Certification as part of a hormonal health program for women and I've gotten a lot of great info from Dr Pelz too. Both have been part of my healing process and its taken years of self education to get my head around it all.

Agreed w @Mililea that emotions play a part. My go to book is The Secret Language of the Body by Inna Segal. For fibroids she says:
holding on to regrets of the past, secretly wanting revenge, feeling disempowered and victimised, feeling forced into things you don't want to do, nursing hurts and disappointments from the past.

 

[Magnolia]

I never heard of DMSO before

There is a long thread about DMSO (link) on the forum.

I have not heard of the books that are recommended, but am receptive to this approach and will look into them. I've read other books that view the body as a 'communication device' which brings limiting thoughts, ideas or perspectives to our attention by transforming them into physical symptoms. If one can eradicate the thought or idea, then it will no longer be a limitation and the symptom will go away since the communication was successful.

In Genesis, Jacob fought with the angel,and said, "I will not let thee go, until you bless me." I am learning to look at every physical symptom I have that way. The symptom is a lesson designed for my edification, and it won't let me go until I am blessed with an understanding I did not have before. I can't say such learning is fun. It isn't (not yet, anyway). And as one symptom and invalid thought dissolves, another seems to take is place. But it is convincing me that we live in a mental universe, and by cleansing our consciousness and aligning it with Divine Cosmic Mind, everything can be healed.

But I wrote this before KTC posted and this seems like fluff by comparison. Wow.

 

[kinyash]

Hi Lyndi Lama, thank you for sharing your struggle with fibroids. My wife had the same and they caused quite a scare when she was pregnant many years ago. Later she had them removed and, thankfully, they did not recur. From what you have written I would guess you have thrown everything you can including some strange and exotic treatments at the condition

Just a thought, but have you tried to look at possible energetic causes? I looked up Fibroids in Louise Hays “ You can heal your life”, and she says that Fibroids can manifest from “Nursing hurt from a partner. A blow to the feminine ego.”
Our human psyche is very complex and sometimes we store a lot of stuff internally that can manifest in different ways. Certainly you should look at the physical side of things and possible causes in your diet, but I also suggest you do a deep dive into your feelings. I would also suggest EE in conjunction with doing some objective retrospection. A good therapist can be a great help.
You have lived with this issue for a long time and I empathize with your journey. What lessons have you learnt from your condition? Having the courage to share here is a great start at getting a solution. I wish you much love and success in your journey here on the forum.

Sorry, this post was intended for Pluchi, and not Lyndi. My apologies.

 

[Yas]

Hi Pluchi,

I'm sorry to hear what you're going through.

Have you tried Green Tea extract? It seems to have some effectiveness with fibroids:

Green Tea Extract May Shrink Uterine Fibroids

An extract from green tea may be useful in treating uterine fibroids, a condition that affects 25%-30% of U.S. women, new research indicates.

www.webmd.com

Treatment of symptomatic uterine fibroids with green tea extract: a pilot randomized controlled clinical study - PubMed

EGCG shows promise as a safe and effective therapeutic agent for women with symptomatic UFs. Such a simple, inexpensive, and orally administered therapy can improve women's health globally.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Agreed w @Mililea that emotions play a part. My go to book is The Secret Language of the Body by Inna Segal. For fibroids she says:
holding on to regrets of the past, secretly wanting revenge, feeling disempowered and victimised, feeling forced into things you don't want to do, nursing hurts and disappointments from the past.

I also agree. Maybe there's something emotional to look into as well. What Louise Hay says about Fibroids is:

Fibroid Tumors: Nursing a hurt from a partner. A blow to the feminine ego.