Not really unless you start making assumptions about the actual effect of the wind on the debris, on exactly what that debris was and lots of other assumptions which were not stated. Either way the original post only showed a graphic and did not attempt to put that graphic into any context. There was no discussion of other background facts.quite a large debris field for a plane which supposedly lost control and crashed
Well, if the Engine was found WNW of the papers and files found in New Baltimore, I'd say that's a pretty powerful wind...rs said:Not really unless you start making assumptions about the actual effect of the wind on the debris, on exactly what that debris was and lots of other assumptions which were not stated. Either way the original post only showed a graphic and did not attempt to put that graphic into any context. There was no discussion of other background facts.quite a large debris field for a plane which supposedly lost control and crashed
from http://www.flight93crash.com/"Eight miles away in New Baltimore, Melanie Hankinson said she found singed papers and other light debris from the crash, including pages from Hemispheres Magazine, United's in-flight magazine. Stoe said authorities initially insisted crash debris could not have traveled over a mountain ridge more than eight miles from the crash.
Therefore a wind of WNW is blowing fromWNW. This, ironically, supports the debris field rather then refutes it.WIND DIRECTION
The direction from which the wind is blowing. For example, an easterly wind is blowing from the east, not toward the east. It is reported with reference to true north, or 360 degrees on the compass, and expressed to the nearest 10 degrees, or to one of the 16 points of the compass (N, NE, WNW, etc.).
noise said:Rumsfeld himself admitted that the plane over pennsylvania was shot down. Maybe your partially correct, "the military" in terms of how we know, love and understand it didn't shoot it down, but it was obviously shot down.
What Rumsfeld said has no bearing on what happened, though that's not to say it isn't significant. In your quote, you missed out the end of what Rumsfeld said, which makes things clearer:sagitarrian said:I looked at that video. I played it over and over many times. For the life of me I cannot read into it that the plane was shot down. What I hear Rummy saying is "...if we imagine what kind of world we would face IF the people who [did this and that, listing serveral incidents] and [who] attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane..."
A complete transcription of the interview would be most helpful. But to pick out one phrase, "shot down the plane", and then carry on like it actually happened seems way out of line to me. What other evidence is there besides this that one could rely on to say the plane was really shot down?
Probably best then, to continue reading, including the information already posted on this forum, before presenting "conclusions" on subjects that have been discussed here and addressed in articles on the SOTT website.sagitarrian said:My conclusion is that the plane was not shot down. There is insufficient eyewitness accounts to corroborate such a story. But obviously, I have a lot more to read and I'm still not finished with the Link TV documentary.