French presidential elections.

Manille

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When I read you, it is like I was refusing psychopaths were from birth, though firstly I admit it, but open a window, telling that they are also psychopaths that are becoming so because of different experiences or ill-treatments. So it would be considerate to ask who is objective, there? :huh:

I have a huge work before me still and I came to share about thomas Sheridan, not entering into a group I would be answerable to. Spending hours reading: I just can't do it, understand me well. And I am a bit fed up to philosophy about psychopaths. To be true: I am bored to focus on them.
 

loreta

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Manille said:
When I read you, it is like I was refusing psychopaths were from birth, though firstly I admit it, but open a window, telling that they are also psychopaths that are becoming so because of different experiences or ill-treatments. So it would be considerate to ask who is objective, there? :huh:

I have a huge work before me still and I came to share about thomas Sheridan, not entering into a group I would be answerable to. Spending hours reading: I just can't do it, understand me well. And I am a bit fed up to philosophy about psychopaths. To be true: I am bored to focus on them.

Manille, I think the subject of psychopaths is the most important subject in this planet. And reading what Laura wrote and still write about them is vital. I think Laura is objective when she writes about this fascinating subject. And I say fascinating because when we start to understand this kind of people and what they do and did you start to understand why we are in this big tragic mess.

For me, and this is a personal thinking, the study of psychopaths is like studying insects. Insects are insects and you have to accept they are insects. And some insects are very dangerous, not all insects are cute like our little bees. Some insects are sadistic. They are what they are. I don't always read about insects, nor about psychopaths. But I read about them very often. It help me to understand the human condition as (for the insects) the fascinating world of the insects.
 

MK Scarlett

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Without forget Laurent Fabius, the Foreign secretary who said on 18th August:

Fabius: " Bachar el-Assad would not deserve to be on the Earth "
http://www.agoravox.tv/actualites/international/article/fabius-bachar-el-assad-ne-36043

[...] Without having to give a thumbs down, Emperor Fabius has clearly moved from “Bashar must go” to “Bashar must die!” The Western nation-states have just one message for Moscow and Bejing. They will not fall back; rather they are determined to press on by any and all means.[...]
The Brahimi Plan
Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Net, Aug 29 2012
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/bashar-must-die/

Laurent Fabius was the former socialist Prime Minister who appeared from February 9th till March 2nd, 1999 in front of the Court of justice of the Republic for "manslaughter" in the infected blood scandal. This court returned its verdict by a stop which innocent him.

In France, an estimated 4,000 people, many haemophiliacs, were given blood infected with HIV.[5]

A former Health Minister [Laurent Fabius] was convicted for failing to adequately screen the blood, leading to the deaths of five people from AIDS, and the contamination of two others during a key period in 1985.[5] Two other government officials that continued to use the old unheated stock in 1985, when a heated product was available, were sent to prison.[3] Allegedly, all three politicians delayed the introduction of United States blood-screening test in France until a rival French product was ready to be sold on the market
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood_products

Plus:
Fabius was born in Paris, the son of Louise [American] (née Strasburger-Mortimer; 1911–2010) and André Fabius (1908–1984). His parents were Jewish and converted to Catholicism, and Fabius was raised an assimilated Catholic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent_Fabius

Other one thus circumcise I guess, without carrying of judgment but to bring a "medical" indication.


loreta said:
For me, and this is a personal thinking, the study of psychopaths is like studying insects. Insects are insects and you have to accept they are insects. And some insects are very dangerous, not all insects are cute like our little bees. Some insects are sadistic. They are what they are. I don't always read about insects, nor about psychopaths. But I read about them very often. It help me to understand the human condition as (for the insects) the fascinating world of the insects.

This is a good analogy loreta. ;)
 

Gimpy

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Manille said:
When I read you, it is like I was refusing psychopaths were from birth, though firstly I admit it, but open a window, telling that they are also psychopaths that are becoming so because of different experiences or ill-treatments. So it would be considerate to ask who is objective, there? :huh:

I have a huge work before me still and I came to share about thomas Sheridan, not entering into a group I would be answerable to. Spending hours reading: I just can't do it, understand me well. And I am a bit fed up to philosophy about psychopaths. To be true: I am bored to focus on them.


Manille....if you are too bored to focus on the subject of psychopathy, why bother sharing about Sheridan at all? If you cannot be bothered to actually do research into the subjects discussed, why are you posting in a research forum?

The more you post, the less sense you make.
 

Voyageur

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Gimpy said:
Manille said:
When I read you, it is like I was refusing psychopaths were from birth, though firstly I admit it, but open a window, telling that they are also psychopaths that are becoming so because of different experiences or ill-treatments. So it would be considerate to ask who is objective, there? :huh:

I have a huge work before me still and I came to share about thomas Sheridan, not entering into a group I would be answerable to. Spending hours reading: I just can't do it, understand me well. And I am a bit fed up to philosophy about psychopaths. To be true: I am bored to focus on them.


Manille....if you are too bored to focus on the subject of psychopathy, why bother sharing about Sheridan at all? If you cannot be bothered to actually do research into the subjects discussed, why are you posting in a research forum?

The more you post, the less sense you make.

Manille, Gimpy's observation and point is rater accurate it seems and it is rather perplexing, coinciding your sharing and then immediate dismissal out of hand. Indeed, the reading is voluminous, yet this subject, like it or not, is interwove into humanities troubles; from within, from long ago and at every turn it has grown, osit, expediently of late. Without focus, there can be little understanding to most matters, as the tides of powerful men of this type keep pushing against humanities shores, eating us up.
 

Cosmos

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Here is a short recap of the Putin Macron press conference and what Lavrov had to say afterwards. After that, the editor-in-chief of RT, Sputnik
and RIA Novosti, Margarita Simonyan, tells us what she thought about it. In the end is Putins response to another question about "russian hacking" during that press conference. Also noticed how Macron behaved like a total jerk towards Putin in that press conference:


https://youtu.be/gM-K3PFZjRQ
 

c.a.

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It's like that in the new Renaud world! You also noticed how those who spit on #Macron during the last presidential campaign of 2017, support him for that of 2022!




 

c.a.

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The list of candidates hoping to take on Emmanuel Macron for the French presidency in April is getting long. About 30 people have thrown their hats in the ring, including Paris’ Socialist mayor Anne Hidalgo, far-right leader Marine Le Pen and former Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier.

Similar numbers have been seen in previous elections, and the ranks will thin eventually. But with so many self-proclaimed dissidents and outsider personalities borrowing from Macron’s disruptive anti-establishment playbook, the overall effect of having this many contenders may end up helping him stay in power.

A lot can happen between now and April, but the crowded field of anti-Macron candidates is currently eating itself rather than its target. None of the challengers are projected to beat the president in the first round of voting or run-off. (Macron meanwhile has yet to officially announce his run.)

The Politics of Personality

First-round polls for 2022 elections, surveyed in July and September 2021

Source: Harris Interactive/Challenges

Note: If no candidate wins an absolute majority, the two top scorers go to a second-round run-off

In the Macron era, personality politics continues to bury establishment party lines and ideologies.

Le Pen has always been the main threat for Macron, and she’s trying to become more palatable to the average French voter — dropping unpopular policies like quitting the euro, glossing over her past contentious views and seeking to detoxify her party. And yet all eyes are on Eric Zemmour, a far-right pundit with no party machinery to speak of, whose potential candidacy would cut Le Pen’s support to below 20%, a Harris poll published on Tuesday finds. Macron would still win the first and second rounds either way.

On the Left, Anne Hidalgo has for months been tipped as a bridge between social justice and eco-conscious politics after Covid-19. Yet she currently polls below 10% and there is widespread skepticism that she can get rivals, from far-left firebrand Jean-Luc Melenchon to the prospective Green Party pick, to rally behind her. The Left’s own version of Zemmour is also hovering: Arnaud Montebourg, a former minister mixing interventionist economics with a more restrictive approach on immigration, has already launched his Macron-style political movement.

In such a fragmented political landscape, with French voters increasingly leaning conservative on issues like immigration and security while supporting Macron’s “whatever-it-takes” approach to pandemic management, the center-right is seen as a vital election battleground. But even here there’s squabbling: Xavier Bertrand, the most convincing candidate, is refusing to take part in a primary that would weed out rivals.

The confusion is made worse by candidates happy to flee the center to try to whip up the party base. Consider Michel Barnier’s hawkish rhetoric on immigration, viewed with raised eyebrows in his old stomping ground of Brussels, where he faced off against U.K. Brexiters.

All of this is no doubt music to Macron’s ears. His own party, a creation that blended political neophytes and experienced politicians in a mix of the populist and the technocratic, has failed to broaden its appeal beyond its narrow white-collar, pro-European base. And while he is seen as being a convincing leader and good pandemic manager, a majority of French public opinion is unhappy with his performance overall.

Still, Macron is more popular than his predecessors were at this stage of their presidency, and a brightening economic outlook combined with a fragmented opposition would be to his advantage come election day.

That’s assuming the marketplace of policy ideas remains bare. Headline-grabbing proposals have yet to move the needle: Hidalgo’s call to double teachers’ salaries and Le Pen’s proposal to renationalize highways are each seen costing around 40 billion euros ($47.3 billion). Christopher Dembik, a director at Saxo Bank, says these look unrealistic.

There are threats to Macron’s re-election beyond the roster of candidates, however.

First, if disenchantment with party politics turns into apathy and hurts turnout, he could face trouble. In terms of demographics, he only has a convincing lead over Le Pen among the under-25s and over-60s, polling suggests. Second, the broader economic and pandemic backdrop might suddenly deteriorate and make him seem less convincing as a leader — a surge in energy prices and Covid-19 cases might make an outside rival look more attractive.

Finally, Macron’s own personality is a risk. His governing style in trying to push through fuel tax hikes and pension reforms contributed to protest movements like the Gilets Jaunes in 2018. His economic reform agenda has only been a partial success, according to think tank iFRAP, and trying to push more changes through at this stage is risky.

No wonder Macron seems to be leaving it until the last minute to officially throw his own hat in the ring. His silence speaks volumes, even as the swarm of rivals gets louder.

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.
To contact the author of this story: Lionel Laurent at llaurent2@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Nicole Torres at ntorres51@bloomberg.net

The socialist who ruined Paris may ruin the whole of France next The presidential race is all up in the air – and Hidalgo, a cunning politician, is no longer alone in believing in her stars #Hidalgo #Presidentielle2022

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Le Pen already polling better than she was in the last election. Now she's rallying base. “There are battles that we have no right to lose. National friends, the #Présidentielle2022 is from that: and because we have no right to lose this battle, we are going to WIN it!"
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“There are battles that we have no right to lose. National friends, the #Présidentielle2022 is from that: and because we have no right to lose this battle, we are going to WIN it! "#RentréeMLP#Fréjus

I will be a candidate for #presidentielles2022 to assert that the only program that works for workers is a program of struggles.

Side-note:
 

Eboard10

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On September 9th, the French audiovisual council (CSA), the government entity regulating the media decided to count Eric Zemmour's speaking time in the news in the same way as the candidates of the upcoming presidential election in 2022, despite him NOT having declared his willingness to participate in the presidential race. Zemmour, a regular guest on CNews was forced to quit the daily TV programme after the CSA's decision in order to ensure a balance in speaking times between the candidates on the channel.

Some are speculating that this is a move from the establishment to steal votes from Marine Le Pen. With a weakened Republican Party, most people holding a conservative view would vote Le Pen so the elite are likely worried about running into a similar or even worse situation than they did in 2017. Eric Zemmour holds quite radical views when it comes to immigration, muslim immigrants and culture in particular which will surely appeal to part of the right-wing electorate.

By imposing a restriction to his media presence, the CSA, that is made up of notable left-leaning figures basically pushed Zemmour into a corner by having him removed from his daily appearance on CNews and forced him to fight back by presenting himself as a potential candidate in order to maintain his appearance on the main media outlets. Given that the media is all over him at the moment suggests that the intention was not to get rid of him but rather to boost his presence and have him run for the presidential race. I wonder if Zemmour is conscious of how he's being used as a pawn in these election games or if he's unaware of the men behind the curtain.
 

dredger

The Living Force
Thank you for France Ina, but I think it's just another side of the same coin ... Besides, I think it was probably Marine le Pen who won the last presidential elections and that they put whoever they want in power.
Just my two cents... 🤔
It's not just an asumption but a fact that Marine Le Pen is totally controlled by the PTB, Alain Soral demonstrated it in length and breadth via the site of Egalite & Reconciliation
 

c.a.

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Jeepers who's left, with major changes underway for the coming French elections...?

The right-wing candidate is struggling to obtain sponsorship from local leaders

National Rally candidate Marine Le Pen has suspended her campaign for the French presidency as she is struggling to obtain enough support from local leaders, her spokesman said on Tuesday. Le Pen’s press conference on Wednesday concerning education has been cancelled, as has her trip to the Somme at the weekend.

She told RTL on Tuesday morning that she lacked “just over 40” signatures of support from local elected officials.

Presidential candidates require the sponsorship of 500 local officials, such as mayors, in order to run for the top office

Le Pen has seen her support from local official.

dwindle amid competition from other right-wing candidates. The influential mayor of Beziers, Robert Menard, had given his support to Le Pen despite flirtations with ultra-right polemicist-cum-politician Eric Zemmour.

The National Rally candidate has sought to sanitize her party’s image in recent years despite making it to the presidential run-off in 2017, losing to the country’s current leader, Emmanuel Macron.

She changed the party’s name and moved her politics towards the center, ridding it of the jackbooted imagery that clung to her Holocaust-denying father, Jean-Marie Le Pen.



 
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