Fundamental knowledge of who we are vs who we can be

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Along my journey of learning I am at this point very much interested in knowing who I am and the the possibility of what I can become. At one time the cas where asked the question "who is the Prime Creator". The answer was"You are the prime Creator ". "The Prime Creator manifests in you". That's interesting indeed. As I read on I met this:
A: The Nordic genes were mixed with the gene pool already available on
Earth, known as Neanderthal.
Q: (L) What was the genetic combination used to obtain the Oriental
races?
A: Orientals come from a region known in your legends as “Lemuria”,
and are a previous hybridization from 7 genetic code structures from
within Orion Union, designed to best fit the earth climate and cosmic ray
environment then existent on earth.
Q: (L) Okay, what about the Semitic and Mediterranean peoples?
A: Each time a new flock was “planted”, it was engineered to be best
suited to the environment where it was planted. Aryans are the only
exception, as they had to be moved to earth in an emergency.
Q: (L) If races are engineered on earth to be “best suited”, what factors
are being drawn from or considered regarding the Semitic race?
A: They are not engineered on earth, but in Orion lab as all others. They
were “Planted” in the Middle East.
Q: (L) What genetic type were the Atlanteans?
A: They were the same as the “Native Americans”.
Q: (L) Why do some Native Americans believe they come from the
Pleiades?
A: Where are the Pleiades?
Q: (L)Well, near Orion. (RC) Oh, okay. So, they are considering the
Pleiades part of Orion. What about Sirius?
A: Sirius is confused as a locator because it appears in similar location in
the sky in the northern hemisphere. The American Indians were confused
in the translation because of similar seeming location due to vantage
point.
Q: (RC) Well, but Sirius is clearly Sirius! It’s the brightest star in the
sky... it’s in all the legends! How could it be translated wrong? This is not
clear! The star charts are very specific!
A: How have you translated your legends wrong?
Q: (F) I think the point is that it is clear that we, in our present culture, are
easily able to get things very wrong, even from the more recent times; so
it is not a great consideration to think that the more ancient legends can
also be distorted, embellished, and misrepresented.
A: Review what we said at the beginning of this session.
Q: (L) Did the Dogon come from Sirius?
A: All humanoid types originated in Orion region, there are and have been
and will continue to be literally millions of colonies.

I might have missed the concept the cas were teaching us but to my understanding, I learned that someone engineered us from a laboratory.

This leaves a question in my mind trying to correlate the Creator and I. Does this mean when the Orions were engineering us in those labs, in short, can we say they were making BODIES for themselves? If I am the Prime Creator then it means I am the very Orion Creating myself in the Lab.

The possibility of being. What is my possibility of being? Who was manufactured in that Laboratory? Was that a perfect being I must become?

Here I seek more clear understanding from the audience.
 
Hi nmaulu. I don't know what your possibilities are, since you're you, which is a soul married to a body. Like the session you quoted said, they just created people who would vibe well with the conditions on the planet at the time they were created. You're not them though, due in part to organic changes to the genome due to entropy and transpositions of genetic elements due to viruses, and also due to the fact that your karma affects your (epi)genetics as well. At the end of the day though, you're not your body- you are a soul.

The way you find out what your possibilities are is by gaining knowledge and awareness and willpower, and it's through the utilization of all 3 in service to others that you discover who you (and the cosmos) really are. Simple, but difficult to execute on due to programs and false beliefs and lack of faith. At any rate discovering what your possibilities are isn't something which can be discovered simply by philosophizing about it, if that makes sense? And while it's a small gnat, I would really get rid of any notion that you "must" do this or do that, since any sort of desire for spiritual advancement coming out a compulsion like "must" or "should" is, in my experience, just a way to avoid examining oneself and one's life. Seeing earth as a lost cause and retreating to heaven, in other words, instead of bringing forth the will of heaven on earth through you.
 
Hi @nmaulu :-)

I think it would make things clearer for you to look at this answer :

The answer was "You are the prime Creator ". "The Prime Creator manifests in you"

They are referring here to your soul, incarnated in your body at this point in time. Your soul is not your body, and your body is not your soul. Your body is a tool for your soul in order to learn lessons.

At the most fundamental level, we (our consciousness / souls) are all one. We are aspects of the "prime creator", but one with. The veil creating the illusion that we are not, facilitating the lessons.

If I am the Prime Creator then it means I am the very Orion Creating myself in the Lab.

This is in essence true from the perspective that all is one. Also what you do, the Orions do as well.

The possibility of being. What is my possibility of being? Who was manufactured in that Laboratory? Was that a perfect being I must become?

Your possibility of being is your choice. You can choose to become whatever you want to. That is the fundamental law of the universe - free will.
 
The two responses are very interesting and contains vital insights.

If l am understanding well, the main points are:
1) I am a soul.
2) all souls (including those of Orion's if they have any) are ONE.
3) Orion just created the Bodies? Maybe?

We today definitely are the children of the very human beings who were lab engineered. However, from the above, I can learn that ' Consciousness development ' in every creation is paramount. Right?
 
I interpret the main points being more something like:
At the level of reality we currently find ourselves, our souls have lessons to learn which are specific for this level. This is condensed by the C's into "karmic and simple understandings" and the importance of"who we are and what we see".

As @whitecoast points out, knowledge, awareness and willpower need to be put to use in concert to move forward. You can have all the knowledge in the world but not be able to act on it because of a lack of willpower for instance.
At any rate discovering what your possibilities are isn't something which can be discovered simply by philosophizing about it, if that makes sense?
It's absolutely fascinating to read the C's transcripts (and other sources) and discuss these cosmic themes, but I think a lot of the time they fall besides the point. What this cosmic information can provide us is faith, that's for sure, but to get stuck talking about these kinds of aliens or those kinds of aliens can draw valuable energy away from focusing on the things directly in front of us here in 3D; our 'machine' and all of its faulty behaviors and functions for one thing.

We need to remain vigilant for spiritual bypassing, thinking that only because we understand certain metaphysical concepts and easily toy with abstract multidimensional ideas, that that automatically translates into progress in the Work. Also in the same vein:
Seeing earth as a lost cause and retreating to heaven, in other words, instead of bringing forth the will of heaven on earth through you.

Knowledge about these things is part of the Work, but it doesn't stop at that.

The possibility of your being is infinite I would assume. Where everyone 'needs' to focus individually - right here, right now - I believe becomes apparent from looking at your own life circumstances.

"Life is religion."
 
Along my journey of learning I am at this point very much interested in knowing who I am…

Hello nmaulu, I was wondering same as you were, but after I found this forum, I had to keep reading all the transcripts few times to find the answers.

Anyway I hope this link give you some understand who you/we are,
 
Thank you for these posts MatiaS, Bluekiwi and Kay kim. You have all reminded and taken me through the earlier C's insights. Great! It was our/my desire as a soul to experience physicality (thought we were enticed by Lizzies) using our free will, that these bodies where engineered, though again, this was for the Lizzies feeding purposes and not to our benefit. Wonderful posts!
 
who is the Prime Creator". The answer was"You are the prime Creator

I found some of more answers about “Prime Creator”.

 
Thanks Kay Kim. At this time I want to divert a little bit to another question, sorry audience for some of these trivial questions, partly because I can't find answers in the search box or I have not read enough to arrive to answers:
The question is about 'spiritual holiness' if I can put it that way. I am sure this is important for every 4th D STO candidate. I am pretty sure (Jesus) Tonatha could have preached this spiritual holiness. The C's have also mentioned spiritual holiness enhancing our development process. Could this entail refraining from such things as drunkenness, sextual activities. Is there any thread that can help?
 
Thanks Kay Kim. At this time I want to divert a little bit to another question, sorry audience for some of these trivial questions, partly because I can't find answers in the search box or I have not read enough to arrive to answers:
The question is about 'spiritual holiness' if I can put it that way. I am sure this is important for every 4th D STO candidate. I am pretty sure (Jesus) Tonatha could have preached this spiritual holiness. The C's have also mentioned spiritual holiness enhancing our development process. Could this entail refraining from such things as drunkenness, sextual activities. Is there any thread that can help?
@nmaulu your quest seems truly a noble one. You are not just looking for information but you seem to have a desire for knowing the truth and how to apply that knowledge in such a way that it will be more "pure" in intent. The Cs explain how Laura and the group were not ready at certain stages to accept the truth.

Session 13 December 2014:
L) So, my question is: He asks why couldn't the C's have just said, "'You are not ready to receive the truth', or something similar like they have before, instead of espousing disinformation?" So, can you comment?

A: First of all, there was no "disinformation." The character known by the moniker "Jesus" is a composite of numerous myths as well as based on the life of a real historical person and still another.

Q: (L) What do you mean, "and still another"?

A: Another person who made less historical impact. One must also consider the story segments taken from other literature of the time. Secondly, what would you have done if we had told you either all of such details or that "Jesus" did not exist?

Q: (L) You're asking me?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) I would have terminated the project because at the time, I was quite convinced that any spirit that couldn't or wouldn’t acknowledge Jesus was demonic. That was a pretty common “test” in New Age land at the time. I would have stopped communicating with the C's altogether.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) That was...

(Pierre) So there was no choice.

(L) That was how convinced I was at the time.

(Pierre) So they couldn't be straightforward.

A: Suppose you are communicating from a realm of light, knowledge and truth into a realm of darkness, ignorance and lies? Next assume that you really want the recipient to come to the truth.

Q: (Pierre) Yeah, so, what would you do?

A: How can darkness receive light? You must utilize conceptual themes and the material you have to work with. The veils that must be penetrated consist of assumptions, beliefs, and programs of strong emotions.

Q: (Perceval) No easy task!

A: The veil can only be penetrated by sowing conceptual seeds which include notable conflicts of information. Such seeds falling on the fertile ground of a pure desire for truth will sprout and drive the actions that lead to penetrating the veil. Most people "can't stand the truth."

Q: (L) But why didn't you just say, "You're not ready to receive the truth"?

A: Would that have piqued your curiosity?

Q: (L) No, it wouldn't have piqued my curiosity. It would have just suggested to me that you guys didn't know anything.

A: Exactly!

I feel that that wanting to know the truth is just as important as acquiring more knowledge. I would venture to say that that is very much a part of why we have several threads on Paleo Christianity.

You may be interested in Laura's new book and the discussion:

Laura's commentary on "From Paul to Mark", Religion & Hyperdimensional Realms


Some observations... Tonatha (see footnote #1 for more detail) was according to the Cs the father of a Jesus figure/teacher. Jesus' real name was according to the Cs "Jesinavarah".
 
Hi Goyacobol! Discovering Laura and the whole team, just like anyone else who discovers similar rightful sources anywhere else, presents a hope for life universal truth. And for serious truth seeking mind an open heart is demanded. Your contribution is perfectly said. I am always reminded also that STO candidates support each other for growth. I personally, look forward to supporting this work in some way (just a by-way said). Thanks I will go through this new material you just mentioned.
 
Thanks Kay Kim. At this time I want to divert a little bit to another question, sorry audience for some of these trivial questions, partly because I can't find answers in the search box or I have not read enough to arrive to answers:
The question is about 'spiritual holiness' if I can put it that way. I am sure this is important for every 4th D STO candidate. I am pretty sure (Jesus) Tonatha could have preached this spiritual holiness. The C's have also mentioned spiritual holiness enhancing our development process. Could this entail refraining from such things as drunkenness, sextual activities. Is there any thread that can help?

Hi nmaulu, in addition to the transcripts and excellent forum threads about Paul there are many threads on the forum concerning the things you mention as examples. Like these:

Sex

Alcohol

Underlying all of these subjects are the same principles. Gathering knowledge and understanding allows you to apply what you have learned to any situation. You are then better able to make decisions (ie. exercise free will) which will align with your aim. If your aim is to be an STO candidate, then naturally your approach to things like sex and alcohol will have to take into account the way in which they affect others. The 'law of three' applies here - good, bad, and the third force, which is the context which determines which is which in a given situation. This is why knowledge/ information is needed in order to determine which is which. This includes input from other people because individually we have gaps in awareness.
 
I am reading these pieces for the first time. They are interesting. Ideally I am coming to one understanding which must be general to the STO orientation. What I see is that if I have chosen an STO path, the results of what I think should not deliberately and negatively affect ( though this is very complicated) my neighbour and shouldn't generate negative energy in me. Could this be right thinking?
 
I am reading these pieces for the first time. They are interesting. Ideally I am coming to one understanding which must be general to the STO orientation. What I see is that if I have chosen an STO path, the results of what I think should not deliberately and negatively affect ( though this is very complicated) my neighbour and shouldn't generate negative energy in me. Could this be right thinking?
You are on the right track. Most spiritual teaching suggest 3 things to do to raise your frequency:
1. Purification and development: Basically replacing your negative energy/vices into positive one. This is usually achieved mostly by meditation or reflections. The purer you are the more you gained inner peace enabling you to do the right thing/balance. This is important because your intuition/ connection to the higher self and psychic abilities will be activated. When you are still using ego you are mainly using your defensive mind/ brain which block your connection to ether. That is why when we meditate or charging your energy we empty our mind.
2. Service to other: Once you are reasonably pure/ able to love yourself. You will be secured to love other. The act of service as creator will greatly enhance your soul growth as one who serve other soul is essentially serving yourself (law of one). You will need to know how to serve the desire of others.
3. Non attachment to materialism: Materialism is mainly a distraction as the only thing eternal is your soul. Rather than working on your growth most people are wasting their reincarnation chasing on useless pleasures.

Hope this help
 

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