Grounding

Nathancat7

Jedi Master
Where is that thread on grounding, please move there cause can't find.
I think grounding is everything.
It's completing the circuit. We'll clearly connecting through nous with divine cosmic mind is the real grounding.
I was just reading on Sott Laura NK's writing about cosmic catastrophe.
Maybe I'm overestimating the importance of human activity but I do think that if, indivually and collectively, people aren't grounded, it does attract destructive activity of meteors and comets that are of course cyclical.
Filthy as I can be sometimes, I started to just sleep on the bare earth.
It's one of the few things living alone in the woods offers.
That got me thinking about the discussion of subterranean humans as I know it's connected but I've got to think about it more.
 
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I think that there are two types of ‘grounding’, not sure if you clearly distinguish between them. I am also not sure how different they are in and of itself.

There’s the form of ‘grounding’ you seem to refer to - the contact with the earth proper, which transfer part of its negative charge onto your body, which may have many beneficial effects.

But then there is the other form of ‘grounding’, too - the “act, method, or process of laying a groundwork or foundation”. This is more of an intellectual and emotional prtocess and usually involves acquisition of knowledge and its proper application.
 
There’s the form of ‘grounding’ you seem to refer to - the contact with the earth proper, which transfer part of its negative charge onto your body, which may have many beneficial effects.
FWIW, I think it's the opposite; positive charge from the Sun seems to be beneficial for living beings in general and those on the Earth's ground in particular (which is positively charged according to ECHCC), in contrast to the reverse charge in the moonlight, which might be picked up from the negatively charged atmosphere and 'transmitted' to the ground via reflected solar light from the Moon or, among other possibilities, the positive charge from the Sun might 'directly' become negative charge by reflection on the Moon (assuming Moon does not radiate any light and/or charge of its own).

Q: (Andromeda,) And why is it that they can't be charged in the moonlight?
A: Reverses the positive charge.
Q: (L) What kind of charge comes from the sun to the Earth? Is it like negative, or...
(Pierre) Positive overall.
(L) So the overall charge from the sun to the Earth is positive?
(Pierre) I'm not sure they're talking about electric charge here. Maybe we should ask.
A: Yes
Q: (Galatea) So what would the reverse charge do, take everything out or what?
A: Counter to the living energy of the being.
 
Where is that thread on grounding, please move there cause can't find.
I think grounding is everything.
It's completing the circuit. We'll clearly connecting through nous with divine cosmic mind is the real grounding.
I was just reading on Sott Laura NK's writing about cosmic catastrophe.
Maybe I'm overestimating the importance of human activity but I do think that if, indivually and collectively, people aren't grounded, it does attract destructive activity of meteors and comets that are of course cyclical.
Filthy as I can be sometimes, I started to just sleep on the bare earth.
It's one of the few things living alone in the woods offers.
That got me thinking about the discussion of subterranean humans as I know it's connected but I've got to think about it more.

While grounding is pretty important, I don't think it is 'everything'. Diet, psychology, and aims in life, growth in knowledge, learning karmic lessons, and maybe most importantly, how we treat other people - the Work is much bigger than just grounding.

By way of metaphor, the roots exist for a reason - the growth of the tree. I just re-read this post by Chu, and I think it puts grounding into a good perspective. Balance is key.

Recently I've been thinking about the problem of anticipation in the following way: Think of a tree, just any tree. For example:

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Imagine that the tree is your life, with many possible futures, different branches also involving your loved ones, your potential, everything. You are close to the trunk, in one of the bottom branches. The outcome you want is, say, where the orange butterfly on the left is. If you focus ONLY on that, the tree will grow crooked, will lose balance, and either be decrepit or die, or make others suffer from your stupidity. That could be your life. Something like this:

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I don't think anyone wants that, except that often wishful thinking enters the equation, and one assumes that everything will be fine anyway. It never happens.

If instead, you focus on all the roots, the trunk, the branches and leaves at the bottom, to create a harmonious tree on a more solid base, step by step, and regardless of the final outcome, you will be closer to your aims. Each step of the process is important, and connected to the rest of the tree.

If at the end of your life you can look back and say that you created a nice tree, and got closer to the butterfly even if the Universe decided you weren't ready for it yet or whatever, then it's not bad.

It doesn't necessarily mean that you stop hoping, or wishing for something. It is rather that while you need to sometimes make "plans", or have steps clear in your head, discipline and suffer in one way or another, you understand that you never have the whole picture (we are strangers to ourselves, after all), and it is not up to you to determine the outcome or avoid steps, but you can make a concerted effort to appreciate the process, life in general, and work towards a higher goal, always remembering you are in one tiny branch of the tree. What you do in life will help determine the whole shape of the tree, but other factors will be involved in deciding which branch you ultimately "land" on. So, there is no point in anticipating the outcome. All we can do is act to the best of our ability and knowledge. The rest is not up to us decide.

Well, something like that anyway! Life is also "irreducibly complex", so you never know what your path from A to B will be like precisely, or even if in the end, you are meant to go from A to C (say, the birdie in the tree above, which may be even better if you don't limit the possibilities with your own blindness and stubbornness). So, do your best, stick to your values, nourish the tree, and don't expect it to turn out to be a specific shape.

That means that whatever the "wish" is, you need to work on multiple areas at a time, so that the tree is balanced. Becoming a better person, for example, is not just doing a good deed for one single person, for example. It is learning to give and receive in healthier ways, without agendas or ideas of a recompense. It is being patient, understanding, responsible, and much more. It is learning and working hard, so that you have something to offer to others. You cannot just decide to do just one thing and forget the rest of the "tree". If you have faith that the Universe knows what its doing, then it makes sense that if YOU limit the options and constrict the flow, you are not going to get what you want. Because it is precisely that, a "want", an expectation, entitlement. It isn't seeing reality left and right and acting accordingly. It isn't "becoming a conduit for the Universe", but rather arrongantly telling the Universe that you know better. That can never work. OSIT.
 
FWIW, I think it's the opposite; positive charge from the Sun seems to be beneficial for living beings in general and those on the Earth's ground in particular (which is positively charged according to ECHCC), in contrast to the reverse charge in the moonlight, which might be picked up from the negatively charged atmosphere and 'transmitted' to the ground via reflected solar light from the Moon or, among other possibilities, the positive charge from the Sun might 'directly' become negative charge by reflection on the Moon (assuming Moon does not radiate any light and/or charge of its own).

According to what I've read, a photon has no charge. However, sunlight is not polarized, while moonlight is polarized. So the charge doesn't change, but the polarization does.

So sunlight does seem to be vitally important, yes, but not because of it's charge. We could think of human beings as being photosynthetic, but by a different pathway. Our mitochondria are 'fed' by light in interaction with water. There's an in-depth discussion of that in this interview. Unfortunately he throws he diet question out the window, but the rest of the info is pretty stellar:


It's of note that there are different frequencies of light, some of which are harmful, like blue light, and some of which are beneficial, like far infrared. This has to do with the light's modulation of proteins.

So when we talk about light, it can start to get pretty complex.

Here's a screenshot from ECHCC, which indicates that the earth has a negative charge:

earth negative charge.jpeg


So the earth has a negative charge (free electrons). When we make contact with the earth, is also another important source of energy and healing, in addition to certain frequencies of light.
 
According to what I've read, a photon has no charge. However, sunlight is not polarized, while moonlight is polarized. So the charge doesn't change, but the polarization does.
True, photon (particle of light) does not carry any charge, although it exerts 'force', i.e. 'pressure' or power in the direction of propagation, which is usually described by Poynting vector; S ~ E × H.

Regarding the polarization, I couldn't find any source online to corroborate the claim that moonlight is polarized; closest that I could find says it's slightly linearly polarized at low lunar phases, while at full Moon is completely unpolarized, just like the sunlight. And even that slight polarization comes from scattering in the atmosphere, the same mechanism that sunlight is also subjected to. In that respect, there is no significant difference between the two.

So sunlight does seem to be vitally important, yes, but not because of it's charge. We could think of human beings as being photosynthetic, but by a different pathway. Our mitochondria are 'fed' by light in interaction with water. There's an in-depth discussion of that in this interview. Unfortunately he throws he diet question out the window, but the rest of the info is pretty stellar:


It's of note that there are different frequencies of light, some of which are harmful, like blue light, and some of which are beneficial, like far infrared. This has to do with the light's modulation of proteins.

So when we talk about light, it can start to get pretty complex.
Thanks for the H&W link, I haven't payed much attention to that show, up til now. :flowers:

Here's a screenshot from ECHCC, which indicates that the earth has a negative charge:

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So the earth has a negative charge (free electrons). When we make contact with the earth, is also another important source of energy and healing, in addition to certain frequencies of light.
Thank you for 'straightening' me up, it seems I've picked up few things 'in reverse', which suggests that rereading of ECHCC would be in order, without skipping some parts due to knee-jerk reactions because of seemingly irrelevant inaccuracies found there, like that Moon does not rotate for example. :read:
 
True, photon (particle of light) does not carry any charge, although it exerts 'force', i.e. 'pressure' or power in the direction of propagation, which is usually described by Poynting vector; S ~ E × H.

Light is so weird.

Regarding the polarization, I couldn't find any source online to corroborate the claim that moonlight is polarized; closest that I could find says it's slightly linearly polarized at low lunar phases, while at full Moon is completely unpolarized, just like the sunlight. And even that slight polarization comes from scattering in the atmosphere, the same mechanism that sunlight is also subjected to. In that respect, there is no significant difference between the two.

Thanks! I just checked the source that I had back in the old memory-box, and it turns out I didn't remember it correctly.
 
Well I'm not really in the best state to respond, but I'll give it a go.
There's this state I was in, several days ago, where I came to a sobering understanding that my 'focus on the butterfly ' was involving a lot of wishful thinking.
Just the usual, dreams of making a difference, making art, all of that.
But I knew the responsibility required an immense amount of work and effort.
Previously I'd been working on a painting. Or plann8ng to.
I sort of distracted myself to do anything but.
When I finally sat down I really only had 45 minutes.
But I loved it, it was fun, the result was ok because 45 minutes, but I was feeling it, in the flow.
So that day, the day of sobering reality and several days since the 45!, 45! Minutes to whatever, I sat down.
I felt fear, not from painting, but from the unknown possibilities that only effort can reveal step by step.
Because my technique is rusty it took me some time to realize that the details needed to be approached step by step.
Excruciating work really, and I didn't focus on beauty, because perspective was in my mind.
Great progress
6 to 7 hours of painting.
But tiring so it was several days later I took up brush.
And that day I woke up silly, with even a bit of the happy go lucky style.
I just focused on Beauty while painting.
After 5 hours I grew tired and had lost the goofy edge, but not a sense of beauty.
It guided me and I could realize forms.
Funny thing is I still needed to look at the details. In obsessively focusing on the details, it was like I was overall afraid to express myself.
Though also there is a time and place for that.
So what I'm saying is that egoistic awareness of separation from divine is a long and arduous path toward reconnection with soul and I thank you for your balance because fear doesn't do anybodyany good but it's more honest when I acknowledge it. This might post twice sometimes the internet goes out.
 
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There is a part of me that knows the truth.
When I was younger, as a young man, I wasn't so buffered.
But the universe always moves toward truth.
 
While grounding is pretty important, I don't think it is 'everything'. Diet, psychology, and aims in life, growth in knowledge, learning karmic lessons, and maybe most importantly, how we treat other people - the Work is much bigger than just grounding.

By way of metaphor, the roots exist for a reason - the growth of the tree. I just re-read this post by Chu, and I think it puts grounding into a good perspective. Balance is key.
I think that the warning or discussion highlights the importance of not being in love with emanating.
That's to say a materialistic focusing is karmic entrapment rather than free will, and being possessed by own possession in like an unbalanced brain seeking objectification.
Love, truth, and beauty are also principles of the soul.
So what I mean by grounding is tracing back, through karmic soul journey, to the timeless source, the soul in connection to divine mind.
 
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