Gurdjieff-De Hartmann music

[Kay Kim]

Because I have post on- How to experience another levels of energy from Objective Music- excerpt from ISOTM.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22.msg635041.html#new
page 10, reply#138.

And now, I am wondering, if possible to ask Cassiopaean about the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann music.

Is all the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann music really objective music?
Is these music vibrates with listener's inner octaves to physically, emotionally, and intellectually positive effect?

 

[Zee Ley]

Hi Kay Kim,

Subjectively...

Gurdjieff music certainly has inner magic. While listening to some of the tracks interesting things may happen.

Anthem for the Infinite Creator: _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cdoDLPeEc
The track has a light scent of sorrow. Nevertheless during first time of listening to this melody words "fire in a wind" popped inside my mind. And guess what after some time while watching documentary about Gurdjieff's life I found out that he often used to sit outdoors and watch fire burning.

This composition (_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQupCdgwauc_) with its unwinding tempo maybe were designed/used as a background for dancing. Listen to it. Try to do any kind of constant movement according to the rhythm and till the end of the song. Not an easy task.

In "Circles" (_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zreAomkI-cI_) raindrops one after another are hitting the surface of water.

Is these music vibrates with listener's inner octaves to physically, emotionally, and intellectually positive effect?

This music without any doubt resonates with some part of myself.

 

[RflctnOfU]

Because I have post on- How to experience another levels of energy from Objective Music- excerpt from ISOTM.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22.msg635041.html#new
page 10, reply#138.

And now, I am wondering, if possible to ask Cassiopaean about the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann music.

Is all the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann music really objective music?
Is these music vibrates with listener's inner octaves to physically, emotionally, and intellectually positive effect?

I would say the 'proof is in the pudding', as Ark has said before. This music, when I listened 'correctly'*, had a very deep and lasting effect. It was as G said - speaks to/teaches the feeling center. I can liken this perception to learning/seeing how the visual color spectrum changes...but it is feeling center color.

*by listening correctly, I mean listening with the feeling center, or, having ones center of gravity of attention in the feeling center while listening, rather than in the thinking center, intellectualizing about what is being listened to. Make sense?

Kris

 

[Kay Kim]

Thank you Zee Ley, for assisting me to collect three more new music from YouTube. And it is good to know the Gurdjieff music resonates with you!

Thank you RflctnOfU, for your information about experienced very deep and lasting effect that correctly listening method from feeling center.

Honestly, I wasn't sure how to listen the music, but according to the book, person need to listening actively/attentively within and beyond the music.
So last few weeks I was experimenting to three different ways to listen, one was listening from ear(pay attention to sound of music), second was with feeling, and third was trying to vibrate with body.

Right now I can not detect which is right for me, because all of three way leads me to same deep state of space, it seems nothing is there, but just my conscious.
But now on I will try to listen mostly with feeling center to see what happen, and also want to gather more positive experience from others.