How are paradoxes avoided in time travel?

[axj]

While this is probably not the most pressing issue, I have been wondering how time travelers avoid paradoxes from happening.

Or in a broader context, when something in the past is changed, does that mean the time traveler automatically switches to a different 'timeline' (if there is such a thing) or is there only one 'timeline'?

There has been some time travel research on the molecular level recently:
http://www.sott.net/article/280827-Molecular-time-travel-experiments-show-evolution-depends-on-non-adaptive-chance-mutations

In the study, the researchers simulated the behaviour of a single photon that travels through a wormhole and interacts with its older self. This is known as a closed timelike curve - a closed path in space-time that returns to the same starting point in space but at an earlier time. Their study is published in Nature Communications.

In the first case, photon one "travels trough a wormhole into the past, then interacts with its older version,” Ringbauer explained. And in the second case, photon two travels through normal space-time, but interacts with another photon that is trapped inside a closed timelike curve forever.
_http://sciencealert.com.au/news/20142306-25717-2.html

So it seems that among physicists it is already widely accepted that time travel is possible through "closed timelike curves". They think that paradoxes can be avoided on the quantum level because of the "fuzziness" and "uncertainty" on that level:

According to Einstein’s theory, it could be possible to travel back in time by following a closed timelike curve. However physicists and philosophers have struggled with this theory given the paradoxes such as the grandparents paradox, where a time traveller could prevent their grandparents from meeting, thus preventing the time traveller’s birth in the first place.

But in 1991 it was suggested that time travel in the quantum world would avoid these kinds of paradoxes because the properties of quantum particles are “fuzzy” and “uncertain” - and this is the one of the first times anyone has simulated the behaviour of such a scenario.

So I'm wondering if this "uncertainty" (having several unmanifested probabilities) is how paradoxes are avoided on the larger non-quantum level as well - when a person travels through time, for example. Logically, it should not be possible since on the non-quantum level things are already "certain" and one particular probability is manifested.

 

[cubbex]

Time travel seems like a barrier of itself, like sound speed barrier or light speed barrier

1) When you travel from your present body field into an already past environment. The way to avoid some sort of paradox, is either the time traveler dies, or he helps himself in the past in a mysterious way. But also, this may just mean that you create or find yourself with a perpendicular reality, because what you are can't be changed unless you destroy your consciousness but you may create now an alternate reality of yourself, like a copy of that other environment until both of you merge into one.

2)You travel your consciousness not into an external environment from your body, but to a past state of body. But, when the mind can express or there's no imprint on the nervous system, then that travel would have never happened and you may feel certain events like deja vu. Based on the sts 4th density abductions and the cs mention of it, and that they may equivocally put the soul imprint on the wrong time-space zone, and the person becomes crazy.
-Maybe to avoid this forgetting would require some sort of remote memory that let us know that we are not from that time.

3) What about doing both. You transport your mind to a past body intuitively knowing you are not in the right place or something has changed, and at the same time you transport your body to the past environment, and give hints to that soul imprint that must be from the future, like creating a guardian and this remote memory that keeps you on track.

xD just crazy ideas, but I love the idea of time travel, if some of you know about a good book about it, it would be really appreciated if you tell me. Btw there's another sott article that deals with the Cat effect from Alicia in wonderland that deals with tele-transportation or something.

 

[Beorn]

I have no idea how to look at this from a scientific perspective but I see it more from an energetic level, STO vs STS. Looking at STO one could (if one could) go back in time to clear up misunderstandings but not to force a change energy wise. This would prevent things such as the grandparents paradox because some kind of agreement would be needed between all the parties concerned, assuming one has learnt to speak backwards, of course. :D

I also don't see the possibility of problems arising with going back to meet yourself because you ARE you travelling back through the timeline. It's not like you can see a younger version of yourself, you are the younger version, if you get my drift.

Just a few thoughts FWIW

 

[axj]

Time travel seems like a barrier of itself, like sound speed barrier or light speed barrier

1) When you travel from your present body field into an already past environment. The way to avoid some sort of paradox, is either the time traveler dies, or he helps himself in the past in a mysterious way. But also, this may just mean that you create or find yourself with a perpendicular reality, because what you are can't be changed unless you destroy your consciousness but you may create now an alternate reality of yourself, like a copy of that other environment until both of you merge into one.

I'm not sure I completely understand what you are saying. So you think that the solution to not having any paradoxes through time travel is that a new 'timeline' or perpendicular reality is created?

The merging of different realities or 'timelines' is an interesting idea - and if I remember correctly, the C's said that something similar to this may be going on. Though in this case, there is again the problem of creating paradoxes in the "original" reality.

2)You travel your consciousness not into an external environment from your body, but to a past state of body. But, when the mind can express or there's no imprint on the nervous system, then that travel would have never happened and you may feel certain events like deja vu. Based on the sts 4th density abductions and the cs mention of it, and that they may equivocally put the soul imprint on the wrong time-space zone, and the person becomes crazy.
-Maybe to avoid this forgetting would require some sort of remote memory that let us know that we are not from that time.

Well, if you forget everything and just re-experience it all again, I guess that qualifies as time-travel. If some memory does remain of what is to happen ('deja vu's"), then the problem of paradoxes comes up again - if the memory leads the person to act in a different way. I guess the easiest solution is again that a new 'timeline' branches off.

Here is also a relevant quote from the C's about time travel:

[quote author=1994-11-19]
Q: (L) I would like to know what is the specific mode of time travel?
A: Complex.
Q: (L) Well, just give us a clue here?
A: Transdimensional transfer utilizing electromagnetic adjustment of atomic structure to alter speed of time cycle convergence.
Q: (L) Who or what are the individuals called "Men in Black"?
A: Lizard projections.
Q: (T) Does that mean that they are just projecting an image of a being?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) The MIBS are not real, then, in our physical terms?
A: Partly correct. You do not understand technology but we will describe it if you like.
Q: (L) We like. Please describe this.
A: Okay. Get ready. First we must explain further time "travel" because the two concepts are closely related. The first step is to artificially induce an electromagnetic field. This opens the door between dimensions of reality. Next, thoughts must be channeled by participant in order to access reality bonding channel. They must then focus the energy to the proper dimensional bridge. The electrons must be arranged in correct frequency wave. Then the triage must be sent through realm "curtain" in order to balance perceptions at all density levels.
Q: (L) Information in the event that has to be balanced or taken into consideration as to importance so that the program runs correctly. Is this the correct interpretation of
triage as you have used it?
A: Sort of. Triage is as follows: 1. Matter, 2. Energy, 3. Perception of reality. That is it folks.
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In one of the sessions Laura said there had been attempts by some 'outside forces' to get more information about time travel, so maybe this topic is better left untouched after all.

 

[axj]

I have no idea how to look at this from a scientific perspective but I see it more from an energetic level, STO vs STS. Looking at STO one could (if one could) go back in time to clear up misunderstandings but not to force a change energy wise. This would prevent things such as the grandparents paradox because some kind of agreement would be needed between all the parties concerned, assuming one has learnt to speak backwards, of course. :D

I also don't see the possibility of problems arising with going back to meet yourself because you ARE you travelling back through the timeline. It's not like you can see a younger version of yourself, you are the younger version, if you get my drift.

But the memories of the future can cause changes to the "original reality" or timeline. Again, does the "original reality" change or is the time traveler simply branching off into a different timeline?

 

[John G]

I have no idea how to look at this from a scientific perspective but I see it more from an energetic level, STO vs STS. Looking at STO one could (if one could) go back in time to clear up misunderstandings but not to force a change energy wise. This would prevent things such as the grandparents paradox because some kind of agreement would be needed between all the parties concerned, assuming one has learnt to speak backwards, of course. :D

I also don't see the possibility of problems arising with going back to meet yourself because you ARE you travelling back through the timeline. It's not like you can see a younger version of yourself, you are the younger version, if you get my drift.

But the memories of the future can cause changes to the "original reality" or timeline. Again, does the "original reality" change or is the time traveler simply branching off into a different timeline?

In the model I like, it's kind of that you branch into a new timeline/state but that timeline/state could have a different "past" too. The things in your personal "past" are kind of obviously still the same and that previous timeline/state is still out there but you aren't there anymore.

 

[Beorn]

I have no idea how to look at this from a scientific perspective but I see it more from an energetic level, STO vs STS. Looking at STO one could (if one could) go back in time to clear up misunderstandings but not to force a change energy wise. This would prevent things such as the grandparents paradox because some kind of agreement would be needed between all the parties concerned, assuming one has learnt to speak backwards, of course. :D

I also don't see the possibility of problems arising with going back to meet yourself because you ARE you travelling back through the timeline. It's not like you can see a younger version of yourself, you are the younger version, if you get my drift.

But the memories of the future can cause changes to the "original reality" or timeline. Again, does the "original reality" change or is the time traveler simply branching off into a different timeline?

I think we are talking about two different things but I'm a little too tired right now to think it through. You are talking about Time Travel - going to a point in time (past or future) and playing it forwards as if you could live and make changes from that point on, yes? I was referring to travelling back through a single timeline, playing it backwards from the present with the present moment as a reference point. From this perspective one only travels on the one timeline so only that timeline would be changed. Whether it really branches or not I don't know.