How efficient is the system of the wave?

ealvizo2012

Padawan Learner
The question is: How efficient is the system of the wave? From my point of view an efficient system would be if 50% of human beings to move into the fourth density. But I really care if a few people wake up when the wave arrives so says Mrs. Laura at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvf104JOnw&feature=BFa&list=SPC024CABFB157897D&lf=list_related. It seems to say that only happens 1% of 1% of the world and I find very little. This is so? :huh:
 
IIRC it was less than 3000 soul's "made it "on the last cycle .

It seems to me this "Game of the Gods" ( just considering the Earth 3D to keep it simple) has been going on for eon's and the "Game" aint over till ALL soul's & and ALL potential soul's get devoloped and "grad" sort to speak ......Soooo a lot of us are going to be needed "forever lol" eons & eons to get the job done , wouldn't want to leave anybody left unhelped ! ... seems to me even if you are allowed ( by earning it ) to go to 6D or even to the One 7D choosing to do so would seem to be STS to me being STO IMHO would be to return to help all others till the job is done ...

I see where you are comeing from --->Balance , but just how to weigh ??? ( keep in mind this is all 3d thinking , kinda hard to put into words using our 3D language and concepts (assigned to words) that become inefficient to describe what I hold in my mind of how things work -- and then try to explain :huh:

But to me the Wave would seem to have to be 100% efficient in it's capeability to be what "it" is but the efficienty of the harvest ? again how to weigh .

Hope I didnt misderict your thread ...
 
The number of people eventually to wake up is not fully knowable in advance - the future is open - but we can get a general impression for ourselves, simply by looking at the world as it is. What do you see?
 
ealvizo2012 said:
The question is: How efficient is the system of the wave? From my point of view an efficient system would be if 50% of human beings to move into the fourth density.

I think that the C's described the "realm border wave" as a natural phenomenon, a part of the "Grand Cycle" in the universe. Thinking of the "efficiency of the wave" in terms of how many humans experience a awareness shift due to it may not be the proper perspective in this context. It would be like someone calculating the efficiency of an ocean wave by how many surfers can ride it back to the shore. The wave in either case is a natural phenomenon happening quite outside the petty self-centered concerns human beings occupy themselves with. It is up to human beings to raise their skill or awareness and successfully surf the wave - the wave would not care about how many surfers are there or their skill levels, or how many can ride it or how many go under. OSIT
 
ealvizo2012 said:
The question is: How efficient is the system of the wave? From my point of view an efficient system would be if 50% of human beings to move into the fourth density. But I really care if a few people wake up when the wave arrives so says Mrs. Laura at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvf104JOnw&feature=BFa&list=SPC024CABFB157897D&lf=list_related. It seems to say that only happens 1% of 1% of the world and I find very little. This is so? :huh:

Yes, I think efficient isn't the correct word, you move up when you are "ready", there is no time.
 
The wave may probably "set up" the next "school" for learning, that is, the new 4D grade, but we all will be here till we "graduate" or get to pass all 3D lessons. We then (maybe) simply drop our 3D bodies, die as usual, move to Astral/5D and then, if this is the choice we take, "incarnate" again into a new 4D body to start all over again with the new grade.

I find hard to see that we will move "in body" from one density to another, it could be, we will see, however I see it easy to understand that you may move to 4D after dying here if you manage to complete all your lessons within your current incarnation.
 
I think obyvatel's ocean/surfer analogy was a good one.

Also, David Topi, the Cs said this about having to physically die to go to fourth density (I thought there was more, but I can't find it):
Q: (L) Does that mean that when a person is a fourth density candidate that they have to leave their body to go to fourth density?

A: Yes, unless they are in the body when the wave arrives
 
yes, same here. Can't find exactly where it is, but there was a part in which the C's or Laura mention that you can move to 4D in body, grow new teeth, get a rejuvenile body, and keep on.
 
[quote author=session 941126]
Q: (L) When the energy changes to 4th density, and you have
already told us that people who are moving to 4th density when the
transition occurs, that they will move into 4th density, go through
some kind of rejuvenation process, grow new teeth, or whatever,
what happens to those people who are not moving to 4th density,
and who are totally unaware of it? Are they taken along on the wave
by, in other words, piggy-backed by the ones who are aware and
already changing in frequency, or are they going to be somewhere
else doing something else?
A: Step by step.
Q: (T) In other words, we are looking at the fact that what's coming
this time is a wave that's going to allow the human race to move to
4th density?
A: And the planet and your entire sector of space/time.
Q: (T) Is that what this whole plan is about, then, if I may be so bold
as to include all of us here in this. We, of the beings of light who
have come here into human form, to anchor the frequency, is this
what we are anchoring it for, for this wave, so that when it comes
enough of us will be ready, the frequency will be set, so that the
change in the planet can take place as it has been planned?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When this happens, will we piggy-back all those who are still
unaware?
A: Open.
Q: (T) Okay, when the people are talking about the earth changes,
when they talk in literal terms about the survivors, and those who
are not going to survive, and the destruction and so forth and so on,
in 3rd, 4th, 5th level reality we are not talking about the destruction
of the planet on 3rd level physical terms, or the loss of 90 per cent of
the population on the 3rd level because they died, but because they
are going to move to 4th level?
A: Whoa! You are getting "warm."
Q: (T) Okay. So, we are anchoring this. So, when they talk about 90
per cent of the population not surviving, it is not that they are going
to die, but that they are going to transform. We are going to go up a
level. This is what the whole light thing is all about?
A: Or another possibility is that the physical cataclysms will occur
only for those "left behind" on the remaining 3rd level density earth.
Q: (T) Okay, what you are saying, then, is that we are anchoring the
frequency, so that when the wave comes, we move to 4th level
density as many people as possible, in order to break the hold the
"Dark T-shirts" have got on this planet, those who remain behind will
not have enough energy left for the "Dark T-shirts" to bother with the
planet any longer. There will be less of them so the planet will be
able to refresh and they will be able to move on in their lessons
without interference?
A: Close.
Q: (L) At this point of dimensional transition, is what we are doing,
anchoring a frequency, are we creating a sort of "super string"
network that will literally create another earth in 4th density, which
will then exist in 4th density, and the old 3rd density earth -- almost
like the splitting of a one celled organism, only in this splitting one
half of it moves into another dimension and is energized and quite
literally created by the anchoring frequency, while the old one
remains and experiences 3rd density reality?
A: Step by step.
Q: (L) Are we anchoring frequency to create a split?
A: One developing conduit.
Q: (L) We are developing a conduit?
A: Yes. One.
Q: (J) How many conduits do we need?
A: Open.
Q: (T) Is this conduit going to allow those who remain behind to be
able to move to 4th density easier when they are ready?
A: No.
Q: (T) What is the conduit for?
A: You and those who will follow you.
Q: (T) Oh, this is for those of us who will move to 4th density. We will
move through and they will follow us through the conduit. (J) Oh,
others who are ready?
A: Your group here tonight.
Q: (L) Does this mean we will have followers or just us here now?
A: Open. Up to you.
Q: (L) This conduit. Is this a conduit through which an entire planet
will transition?
A: You are one. There are others.
Q: (L) There are other planets...
A: No. Conduit.
Q: We are one conduit and there are conduits...
A: No. Developing at this point.
Q: (J) So, at this point we are developing a conduit?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) There are other groups on this planet developing their own
conduits?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) These are conduits for us to move to 4th density in?
A: Knowledge is the key to developing a conduit.
Q: (T) I am working on the assumption that all of us here are part of
the family of light, is this true?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) And we have been drawn together in order to develop this
conduit from where we are?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Are there others in this area?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Are they supposed to join with us or are they working on their
own?
A: Open.
Q: (T) Okay, so it is up in the air as to whether we join with them,
they join with us, or we all work independently.
A: It is up to how much publicity you manage to get.
Q: (T) Do we want publicity on this?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Would it help us?
A: Open.
Q: (T) We're developing a conduit to move us from 3rd density to 4th
density. Once we have moved through the conduit does that mean
we have completed what we came here to do, and that is anchor the
frequency?
A: Partly.
Q: (T) Is the conduit kind of like an escape hatch for us?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Let me get this straight. When we move through this conduit,
are the other...
A: You will be on the 4th level earth as opposed to 3rd level earth.
Q: (L) What I am trying to get here, once again, old practical Laura,
is trying to get a handle on practical terms here. Does this mean that
a 4th density earth and a 3rd density earth will coexist side by side...
A: Not side by side, totally different realms.
Q: (L) Do these realms interpenetrate one another but in different
dimensions...
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, in other words, a being from say, 6th density, could look
at this planet we call the earth and see it spinning through space
and see several dimensions of earth, and yet the point of space/time
occupation is the same, in other words, simultaneous. (J) They can
look down but we can't look up.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, in other words, while all of this cataclysmic activity is
happening on the 3rd dimensional earth, we will be just on our 4th
dimensional earth and this sort of thing won't be there, and we won't
see the 3rd dimensional people and they won't see us because we
will be in different densities which are not "en rapport", so to speak?
A: You understand concept, now you must decide if it is factual.[/quote]
 
Hello friends, after your comments I think my question was a little inconsequential, it seems that the design just thought that the only way to move into fourth density is a wave phenomenon, not thinking that the normal form for each soul is "When completed the lessons of 3D 4D follow" in the process of death-rebirth.
But does not diminish the importance of wave phenomenon as a change for humanity as a whole but only 3.000 of 7.000 million spend souls, surely many millions of souls who have lived in this reality are living in 4D.
A separate commentary, as the "wave" is a phenomenon that only occurs every 300.000 years will have unprecedented historical importance, therefore it is necessary to register, recording, storing and studying ... the question is what is the most appropriate method for recording the wave?

Use the Google translator from Spanish to English :P
 
Chopper said:
IIRC it was less than 3000 soul's "made it "on the last cycle .

FWIW, I can't find the thread, but I remember the 3000 souls quote as referring to the total number of people graduating this cycle. It comes out to about one person graduating every 100 years. So the Wave is unique in that it will "mop up" a lot of people in one shot.
 
Chopper said:
a lot of us are going to be needed "forever lol" eons & eons to get the job done , wouldn't want to leave anybody left unhelped !

Here are my thoughts.

We are all eternal. The key to immortality is existence. Pure and simple.

Also, we are not "needed" for anything as we are all entirely and completely free (Law of Freewill).

... seems to me even if you are allowed ( by earning it ) to go to 6D or even to the One 7D

Nobody decides when we are ready or evel alow/prevent us in doing so. Again, it's all about freewill, knowledge and lessons. It is all done naturally according to your choises and karma.

7D is union with the Whole. As C's have said, that part (6D to 7D) is going to happen when every soul is ready and that is going to be the end/beginning of another Grand Cycle.

choosing to do so would seem to be STS to me being STO IMHO would be to return to help all others till the job is done ...

Picture the Ying-Yang. There is no 100% STO and 100% STS because both are part of the great balance of the creation. So in other terms, even the most STS being serves others by being part of the polarity of creation and even the most STO souls serve selves through others.

But to me the Wave would seem to have to be 100% efficient in it's capeability to be what "it" is but the efficienty of the harvest ? again how to weigh .

I don't think we can "weight it". That is "open" and depends on the Law of Freewill. I think that the concepts and "laws" that make it happen at some point are things that we will understand more in-depth in perhaps 4D. In 3D terms, I got that one's frequency (soul) needs to be risen to a "specific" level in order to transit. Knowledge, lessons and application will make it. But how do we then weight it? I don't think we can. That's karma. Everyone has a diffrent path and CV.

My thoughts.
 

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