How far are we from the better Earth reality versions?

[lilies]

The C's see everything

Knowledge and Being Part 5 - Information Theory and Reality Creation at 27:58

Can we have an estimate asked at sessions:

- How far are we from the best Earth reality choice versions possible nowadays?

So we could estimate, how much super-efforts those best improved versions of ourselves currently living in the best realities have made. By extension, how much super-efforts I must make in order to gradually change tracks to - experience - better realities.

Were are we in this line?

A_(best possible realities)-------------------------------------------------Z_(worst possible realities)

Point Z --- Worst choices made resulting in --- Nuclear War --- Biochemical War --- Earth is being destroyed by pollutants, poisons, radioactive incidents --- too big, too many comets arrive causing extinction events

Point A ---- best possible choices made ---- Worlds countries are on the way to make World Peace ---- World Wide Ban on Bio Weapons ---- Earth is being globally cleaned up from waste, poisons, radioactive pollution is being eliminated ---- mitigated comet scenario ---- less, smaller comets arrival causing survivable events.

How far are we in terms of World-Threads / Timelines from the best possible Point A , that is as "this is good as it gets" "you have gone as far as you can" how far are the best/better Earth reality versions from our current reality being experienced?

As I want to change tracks to go to better realities it would be good to know for the perception of efforts are being taken each day how far is this reality from the best possible on the above line? Just an estimation would be enough as answer:
A: Close to worst.
or
A: Bad
or
A: Half-way.
or
A: Okay.
or
A: Better than average.
or
A: Closer to the better ones.

For example
If something resembling the last answer is given - "Closer to the better ones" -, we best maintain our current effort and try to improve. In this theoretical case:
The worst - Point Z - is maybe Earth gone Kantek.
The best reality version, - statistically the best that can be, from the many good-to best-realities averaged, seen by the C's - that we get through it with lots of cataclysms-Mega-Storms-chaos-war-posioning-suffering-mass deaths, but we get through and that's as best as we can get.

 

[patty2292]

From the answers the C's produce, I don't think this can be answered so simply. Although it would be nice!

We are in a linear time perception, where as they are not. So it is hard to match them up for an objective answer.

Also, there are a lot of other factors that we, or I, cannot decide. The majority of people may need, as it is looking towards, to have a grand cataclysmic event to learn a lesson. Where as others may not. The others being a very small portion that cannot control or fully influence this reality, only their own. So I'm guessing it's based on individual realities, which again would be a hard one to answer.

The signs are out there as to which way the world is going, and how severe. That's where the watching and learning comes in.

And anything can happen at any moment that either increases the negativity or positivity. So it really is open. let me give an example scenario:

The C's tell us the world is doomed tomorrow and comets are flying. This huge leap in knowledge and learning, shifts everyone's awareness and the comets sail past earth, or wipe out the ones who are unable to learn. Thus the world continues and we lice happily ever after.

Or, the C's say the world will be better tomorrow, so we all sit back and grab a beer waiting for tomorrow to come because the work is done. So this negative thinking influences a huge cosmic event to wipe us all out.

My point is, although I really like the question and thought; would it really make a difference if we knew? Even if the C's new, would they tell us? Would it breach our free will? An answer would basically say we are set in stone regardless of what we now do.

 

[Mikey]

I think there is an open end in both directions of "badness" and "goodness". There is even a saying: "Smile, because it could be worse. I smiled, and it became worse." Plus, it also depends who is defining "good" and "bad".

 

[RedFox]

- How far are we from the best Earth reality choice versions possible nowadays?

My take home message from the K&B videos was How far am I from the best Earth reality choice versions possible nowadays?
Am I helping others and myself reach it?
Am I doing all I can? How can I do more?

Perhaps G's exercise on considering your own mortality would be a good way to frame it? On the hour of your death, would you be satisfied you gave all you could on reaching your aim?
Personally, I would not be satisfied - at the moment.

 

[JonnyRadar]

This makes me think of something AI posted once about different types of anticipation. Having a hard time finding the original post, but I did find a quote from another post:

[quote author=Approaching Infinity]positive anticipation of positive event: not really anticipation, but awareness of probabilities without attachment. Things are done for their own sake. Has to do with authenticity. E.g. A "christian" who gives to the poor because they are "supposed to" in order to "go to heaven", and not for any feeling of empathy and assessment of the law of three. The future unfolds naturally.

positive anticipation of negative event: This is detached awareness of negative probabilities. Awareness that they may happen prompts steps to prevent their outcome, if possible, and preparation for if they DO happen.[/quote]

So, in essence, wait and see, and be prepared for whatever may come, whether "good" or "bad." ;)

 

[placematt]

This makes me think of something AI posted once about different types of anticipation. Having a hard time finding the original post, but I did find a quote from another post:

[quote author=Approaching Infinity]positive anticipation of positive event: not really anticipation, but awareness of probabilities without attachment. Things are done for their own sake. Has to do with authenticity. E.g. A "christian" who gives to the poor because they are "supposed to" in order to "go to heaven", and not for any feeling of empathy and assessment of the law of three. The future unfolds naturally.

positive anticipation of negative event: This is detached awareness of negative probabilities. Awareness that they may happen prompts steps to prevent their outcome, if possible, and preparation for if they DO happen.

So, in essence, wait and see, and be prepared for whatever may come, whether "good" or "bad." ;)
[/quote]



I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, but what do people think they will get out of knowing these things? I have been thinking about time a lot lately and I think that idea of an accurate countdown would take away what the work is?

 

[Ðekel]

Hi lilies,

In addition to what others have said here, I'd like to attempt to illustrate why this is unanswerable;

First of all, it depends who's asking. Is it a good reality for Ebola ? Is it a good reality for the planet itself ? Is it a good reality for a specific person and no one else ? Etc'

Secondly, even when you define who it is that's asking and what their parameters for "good reality" are, It's constantly in flux.
You can easily see that the version of what "good reality" is, is completely and utterly different for various groups of humans (who themselves can change their minds).
Be it due to religious differences, variances in points of view, weather preferences.. etc'

Best is subjective. The thought behind the word itself exists in a completely subjective envelope.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that a good reality for humans is that they survive the day;

Maybe at the moment humanity is very close to A on your chart.
And maybe in the next five minutes there will be a finger hovering over a red button somewhere and we'll be very close to Z. And if that finger presses the button you ENTER the Z zone. But, this Z is an A for some other species, let's say.. mosquitoes because it allows them to flourish in a couple of months and feed off of animals for instance.

Hope that helps elucidate why this question, although probably coming from the best of interests, is not just tricky to answer, it's impossible to answer the way it was framed.

Edit: Clarity.

 

[lilies]

- How far are we from the best Earth reality choice versions possible nowadays?

My take home message from the K&B videos was How far am I from the best Earth reality choice versions possible nowadays?
Am I helping others and myself reach it?
Am I doing all I can? How can I do more?

Perhaps G's exercise on considering your own mortality would be a good way to frame it? On the hour of your death, would you be satisfied you gave all you could on reaching your aim?
Personally, I would not be satisfied - at the moment.

Me neither. When it was brought up that we are a group from 4thD, incarnated back to 3rdD, so we can do a better job, because we didn't like how 'that version of the future' turned out, the C's answered "close to the truth", IIRC.

[..]
Hope that helps elucidate why this question, although probably coming from the best of interests, is not just tricky to answer, it's impossible to answer the way it was framed.

Edit: Clarity.

Then just another word, some hint please, updated to current events, along the lines of:

Q: That's all fine and good, but I just want one word here, a clue about what is coming down in the near future that you are making all these hints about... just a one word clue?
A: KABOOM!
Q: Now wait a minute! You can't DO that! What do you mean 'kaboom?' I changed my mind, I want two words! One more word!
A: SPLAT!

 

[cubbex]

Well, in a sense I think it becomes irrelevant, unless you can take a look to a paralell dimension. All you can see is the constant of events, that is the present. Based on what little I could read on Secret History book, weather and human society relations are sort of tied together, so you can get a clue from such things.

 

[lilies]

Well, in a sense I think it becomes irrelevant, unless you can take a look to a paralell dimension. All you can see is the constant of events, that is the present. Based on what little I could read on Secret History book, weather and human society relations are sort of tied together, so you can get a clue from such things.

Strangely this question seemed like a good idea at first, but as I started to write answers to the comments, I found more and more elements of the question that needed to be clarified first and the whole concept suddenly grew to colossal size and complexity.

 

[T.C.]

I think the simple answer to the title of your post is, VERY.

Remember, "those who pay attention to objective reality"... So I agree with Redfox that we should make this concept of changing reality a personal one of changing our own reality. So a more practical question to ask ourselves would be something like, "what is the next step for me in order to shift my reality into the world that is another step closer to the one the rest of the group members are heading towards?" Because, that is something that we've got a much better chance of imagining or contemplating and achieving, and it's much more real for us, as opposed to wanting to know how far we are from a world most - if not all - of us can't even imagine at this point.

Maybe the closer we get, the more idea we'll have of what this "new" world might look like, and it'll be our ability to picture it and understand it, that then through new actions brings it into the realm of possibility. But for now, I want to focus on navigating in this reality which is just going to get worse, and worse, and worse.

 

[Ðekel]

I think the simple answer to the title of your post is, VERY.

Remember, "those who pay attention to objective reality"... So I agree with Redfox that we should make this concept of changing reality a personal one of changing our own reality. So a more practical question to ask ourselves would be something like, "what is the next step for me in order to shift my reality into the world that is another step closer to the one the rest of the group members are heading towards?" Because, that is something that we've got a much better chance of imagining or contemplating and achieving, and it's much more real for us, as opposed to wanting to know how far we are from a world most - if not all - of us can't even imagine at this point.

Maybe the closer we get, the more idea we'll have of what this "new" world might look like, and it'll be our ability to picture it and understand it, that then through new actions brings it into the realm of possibility. But for now, I want to focus on navigating in this reality which is just going to get worse, and worse, and worse.

T.C.,

I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded sentence.

And if one really asks themselves this, and comes up with answers and DOES according to insight, perhaps the part you wrote "..is just going to get worse, and worse, and worse" is not set in stone ?

I say this not because it's not possible for bad things to happen but because the whole idea behind this thread and the answers members have given, elucidate just how OPEN the future is, and also how subjective "worse" is.

 

[Oxajil]

As I want to change tracks to go to better realities it would be good to know for the perception of efforts are being taken each day how far is this reality from the best possible on the above line?

Here is an excerpt you might be interested in, Laura wrote in Chapter 27: Stripped to the Bone:

What this means is that, as long as we do not engage in disciplined efforts to widen our perception, we appear to have little freedom within the field to behave other than we do. The more aware of the noumenal or causal realm we are, the more free will we can have. And this is because we are overcoming the damping effect of matter and the Predator’s mind. By doing this, we are increasing our polarization.

What can be, what might have been, or what should be are ideas that can be dealt with via reason even if there are no apparent manifestations of them in the reality. And this is where the mind — consciousness, awareness — comes into the picture in disciplined effort to envision what has not (apparently) existed and does not (apparently) exist, but which must exist by virtue of the fact we can conceive it.

In the deepest terms, reason is more than the domain of possibilities; it is also the realm of possible empirical worlds, of analytic constructions, of alternate conceptions, and of potential frameworks for the very conditions of experience. Because we can think about things that we have never experienced with any of our senses, and understand that reason, making use of knowledge and awareness, can be independent of the “real world”.

Therefore, it is also possible that reason, supported by knowledge and awareness and followed by choice, stands in causal relation to phenomena.
In other words, if your knowledge and awareness of the reality lead you to the conclusion, via reason, that the reality is controlled, and you are not free within it, yet you can develop or comprehend the idea of a world that is not controlled, that is not limited. You can choose to align yourself with such a possible world in a deep and conscious way. This choice of alignment then becomes your connection to a thought center. And the stronger your connection to the thought center, which is in the causal realm, the more it will manifest in your reality.

I could be wrong, but it might depend on each individual in a group as to how 'far' they are from a better Earth reality version. Individually, it might depend on the daily choices we make, and the amount of effort we apply every day, either to make improvements of our selves, to help other individuals in the group, or to do one's bit for the benefit of all. That includes networking, working, and the accumulation of knowledge and the practice of it. Easier said than done! But as Laura said: "So, it's very, very important if people want to make this transition to be like the wise virgins: keep the faith, and keep doing, keep putting one foot in front of the other day after day even though they don't see any immediate benefits for themselves."

Also note what the C's said (mentioned in the same chapter):

Q: (MM) Don’t you get more free will by assimilating knowledge?

A: Yes!! Yes!!

Q: (L) So, in other words, knowledge and awareness makes you aware that you have free will, and also makes you aware of what actions actually are acts of free will, and therefore, when you know or suspect the difference between the lies and deception and truth, then you are in a position to be in control of your life?

A: Yes. Remember, you learn on an exponential curve, once you have become “tuned in”. This means that you become increasingly able to access the universal consciousness. Please learn to trust your increasing awareness. All who are present here are at one point or another on that cycle of progression, some further along than others. If you properly network without prejudice, you may all wind up at the same point on this cycle.

And Session 11 October 2014:

Q: (L) So, in a sense, what you're saying is that there is a need for the network to expand as in connecting chakras and so forth which is probably what helps with these “helper” things described a few minutes ago. When people are connected, they can help each other, both in and out of the body to make DNA changes and changes in their whole system. So, that's important. Also, people need to graduate when they get these DNA changes going on in their bodies that are helped by their helpers because of their connecting chakras because the network has strength. Does that make sense, everybody?

(Pierre) More members, and...

(L) And more involved, more doing.

(Chu) Not necessarily quantity, though. Because it says strength.

(Perceval) Well, that's the question: What is the full tribal unit strength?

(L) Does that means quantity, and/or quality?

(Data) Or both?

A: Both.

Q: (Pierre) So when you reach this critical mass, it means you can have this influence, you can have this soul group influence on all the members and trigger these changes?

(L) Is that what you're saying here?

A: Yes!

So I think that it's an individual and group effort, as they say: one for all and all for one. Whether this better reality is far away or not, is difficult to say. I think that it's important to not assume that we will end up anywhere, for all we know some of us might leave to 5th density during these times. However, that shouldn't stop us to work as best as we can while being as vigilant as we can be every day, so that if we do leave here, whenever that might be, we will at least have a sense of having served a bigger and more meaningful purpose. I do think that doing our best in making the right decisions (which can be difficult, but networking helps!) may lead to a better 'future' at some point in 'time'.

One thing I have learned is that once you start putting effort into knowing what goes on on this planet, minor and major things, you really start to get a glimpse of the amount of evil, darkness, and chaos that's present on this planet. Leaders such as Putin give me hope. But knowing how much suffering has taken place for so long on this planet, some kind of cleansing (hopefully directed at the 'evil' people) would actually help in balancing things out, or so I hope. Using your line, perhaps some might be heading to Z, while others are heading to A. But yea, things are not looking good, and it is this that gives me the push to try to give my bit in the hope that it will make things better, if only for others.

Here's another snippet that I found helpful:

To many of you, it may seem that the Cassiopaeans offer nothing but repeated statements that we are “damned no matter what we do”, as one correspondent suggested. But, that is not entirely the case. Yes, it is true that up to this point I have presented mostly the information that relates to these matters, attempting to penetrate and tear the veils of illusion under which humankind has been hidden from his higher nature or potential. But this has only been done with the intention of having a relatively clear view of what possibilities of doing we may actually have. Actually, I have been trying to accomplish something else, something deep and essential. For those who are asking, I have been trying to help you find your free will.

The point is, I am trying to shock you. I am trying to make you think about things in new ways. I am trying to get you to look at yourself, study yourself, discover your illusions and then apply yourself to becoming free of them. If humankind has any hope of surviving, it will have to have a major change of mind, or metanoia, which is incorrectly translated in the New Testament as repentance. For a change of mind to even be possible, it has to know itself.

Not sure if all the above helps at all, but hope it helps a bit.

 

[Ðekel]

As I want to change tracks to go to better realities it would be good to know for the perception of efforts are being taken each day how far is this reality from the best possible on the above line?

Here is an excerpt you might be interested in, Laura wrote in Chapter 27: Stripped to the Bone:

What this means is that, as long as we do not engage in disciplined efforts to widen our perception, we appear to have little freedom within the field to behave other than we do. The more aware of the noumenal or causal realm we are, the more free will we can have. And this is because we are overcoming the damping effect of matter and the Predator’s mind. By doing this, we are increasing our polarization.

What can be, what might have been, or what should be are ideas that can be dealt with via reason even if there are no apparent manifestations of them in the reality. And this is where the mind — consciousness, awareness — comes into the picture in disciplined effort to envision what has not (apparently) existed and does not (apparently) exist, but which must exist by virtue of the fact we can conceive it.

In the deepest terms, reason is more than the domain of possibilities; it is also the realm of possible empirical worlds, of analytic constructions, of alternate conceptions, and of potential frameworks for the very conditions of experience. Because we can think about things that we have never experienced with any of our senses, and understand that reason, making use of knowledge and awareness, can be independent of the “real world”.

Therefore, it is also possible that reason, supported by knowledge and awareness and followed by choice, stands in causal relation to phenomena.
In other words, if your knowledge and awareness of the reality lead you to the conclusion, via reason, that the reality is controlled, and you are not free within it, yet you can develop or comprehend the idea of a world that is not controlled, that is not limited. You can choose to align yourself with such a possible world in a deep and conscious way. This choice of alignment then becomes your connection to a thought center. And the stronger your connection to the thought center, which is in the causal realm, the more it will manifest in your reality.

I could be wrong, but it might depend on each individual in a group as to how 'far' they are from a better Earth reality version. Individually, it might depend on the daily choices we make, and the amount of effort we apply every day, either to make improvements of our selves, to help other individuals in the group, or to do one's bit for the benefit of all. That includes networking, working, and the accumulation of knowledge and the practice of it. Easier said than done! But as Laura said: "So, it's very, very important if people want to make this transition to be like the wise virgins: keep the faith, and keep doing, keep putting one foot in front of the other day after day even though they don't see any immediate benefits for themselves."

Also note what the C's said (mentioned in the same chapter):

Q: (MM) Don’t you get more free will by assimilating knowledge?

A: Yes!! Yes!!

Q: (L) So, in other words, knowledge and awareness makes you aware that you have free will, and also makes you aware of what actions actually are acts of free will, and therefore, when you know or suspect the difference between the lies and deception and truth, then you are in a position to be in control of your life?

A: Yes. Remember, you learn on an exponential curve, once you have become “tuned in”. This means that you become increasingly able to access the universal consciousness. Please learn to trust your increasing awareness. All who are present here are at one point or another on that cycle of progression, some further along than others. If you properly network without prejudice, you may all wind up at the same point on this cycle.

And Session 11 October 2014:

Q: (L) So, in a sense, what you're saying is that there is a need for the network to expand as in connecting chakras and so forth which is probably what helps with these “helper” things described a few minutes ago. When people are connected, they can help each other, both in and out of the body to make DNA changes and changes in their whole system. So, that's important. Also, people need to graduate when they get these DNA changes going on in their bodies that are helped by their helpers because of their connecting chakras because the network has strength. Does that make sense, everybody?

(Pierre) More members, and...

(L) And more involved, more doing.

(Chu) Not necessarily quantity, though. Because it says strength.

(Perceval) Well, that's the question: What is the full tribal unit strength?

(L) Does that means quantity, and/or quality?

(Data) Or both?

A: Both.

Q: (Pierre) So when you reach this critical mass, it means you can have this influence, you can have this soul group influence on all the members and trigger these changes?

(L) Is that what you're saying here?

A: Yes!

So I think that it's an individual and group effort, as they say: one for all and all for one. Whether this better reality is far away or not, is difficult to say. I think that it's important to not assume that we will end up anywhere, for all we know some of us might leave to 5th density during these times. However, that shouldn't stop us to work as best as we can while being as vigilant as we can be every day, so that if we do leave here, whenever that might be, we will at least have a sense of having served a bigger and more meaningful purpose. I do think that doing our best in making the right decisions (which can be difficult, but networking helps!) may lead to a better 'future' at some point in 'time'.

One thing I have learned is that once you start putting effort into knowing what goes on on this planet, minor and major things, you really start to get a glimpse of the amount of evil, darkness, and chaos that's present on this planet. Leaders such as Putin give me hope. But knowing how much suffering has taken place for so long on this planet, some kind of cleansing (hopefully directed at the 'evil' people) would actually help in balancing things out, or so I hope. Using your line, perhaps some might be heading to Z, while others are heading to A. But yea, things are not looking good, and it is this that gives me the push to try to give my bit in the hope that it will make things better, if only for others.

Here's another snippet that I found helpful:

To many of you, it may seem that the Cassiopaeans offer nothing but repeated statements that we are “damned no matter what we do”, as one correspondent suggested. But, that is not entirely the case. Yes, it is true that up to this point I have presented mostly the information that relates to these matters, attempting to penetrate and tear the veils of illusion under which humankind has been hidden from his higher nature or potential. But this has only been done with the intention of having a relatively clear view of what possibilities of doing we may actually have. Actually, I have been trying to accomplish something else, something deep and essential. For those who are asking, I have been trying to help you find your free will.

The point is, I am trying to shock you. I am trying to make you think about things in new ways. I am trying to get you to look at yourself, study yourself, discover your illusions and then apply yourself to becoming free of them. If humankind has any hope of surviving, it will have to have a major change of mind, or metanoia, which is incorrectly translated in the New Testament as repentance. For a change of mind to even be possible, it has to know itself.

Not sure if all the above helps at all, but hope it helps a bit.

Oxajil,

This is a great summation and reminder of the importance of personal responsibility on the individual and group levels. And also of the possibilities available for alignment within the sphere of ideas.

And this part you quoted from Stripped to the Bone:

[..]
In other words, if your knowledge and awareness of the reality lead you to the conclusion, via reason, that the reality is controlled, and you are not free within it, yet you can develop or comprehend the idea of a world that is not controlled, that is not limited. You can choose to align yourself with such a possible world in a deep and conscious way. This choice of alignment then becomes your connection to a thought center. And the stronger your connection to the thought center, which is in the causal realm, the more it will manifest in your reality.

I find especially pertinent to the conversation in this thread. The alignment and connection to a thought center that doesn't recognize limitations.

 

[Ðekel]

Also, I think it's important to read good news and not just "breaking" news.

A lot of mainstream media would have people believe that everything is constantly falling apart everywhere, as they rely on fear to keep viewers entranced and coming back for more. As well as to try and shape opinions about whatever is "happening" at the moment. Happening being in quotation marks seeing as many other positive occurrences are also happening that go unreported.