I always feel a need to teach what I just learned

[tridean]

Hi All,
I have become so aware of this lately that I felt I needed to talk about it, and that is as the subject line states, a lot of the time I am always feeling a need to teach others what I just learned.

Right off the bat, the term 'learned' could simply be something I read, and felt it made logical sense etc, so it doesn't mean I stumbled on some long lost truth.

But anyway, the areas in which this occurs the most are always areas in which I am seeking further knowledge and areas in which it would seem lots of people could benefit. As a musician I am studying quite intensely in the areas of recording/mixing and do not get this same urge here at all, but if I am reading SHOTW, the wave, or if I am studying finance, economics, politics, law, philosophy, psychology, anything of this nature, I learn something and then catch myself having this inner conversation with someone else as if I am teaching them. Sometimes I go as far as creating facebook statuses, youtube videos etc about some political thing or health news that I know most people will hate because they want to live in their ignorance is bliss bubble, but I feel compelled to do it anyway.

I don't know if this is a good thing, bad thing or what.

Here is an example in my business. Recently, I have been doing a long study on a particular section of traders in the stock markets, those who use a form of analysis called Elliott Wave. Elliott wave for those who don't know, is a form of analysis that claims to follow mass market psychology, and as such users of it believe by their very act of using it are contrarians. I used to follow quite a few famous EW blogs on the internet, and get excited when all of them became universal in their counts and predictions, only to find every single time, they would all be found wrong. So I studied this and I have found this occurs everytime, if the majority become unanimous in their predictions and counts, the market will prove them wrong and force them to change their counts (the reason they are forced to change their counts is because EW comes with a set of rules, and once a rule is broken, the count has to be changed).

Anyway, I have even made money based on this new research of mine, but I have now found myself wanting to share this with others, which seems to be contradictory, because if too many know about it, it will lose its effectiveness.

Most would probably not see any importance to this issue of mine when it comes to money or the markets, but more so when it comes to stuff like the work, the wave etc. I wonder if this issue is a bad thing?

I remember a post in this forum recently where someone had shared with a friend of theirs info about 4th density etc, and some long timers of this forum questioned her for it, stating that it is not up to us to do this, but only if someone asks for the information.

and this is why I get the feeling this need to teach is not a good thing. What makes this even more difficult is that now I question myself constantly, i.e. every act and thought I do I am assuming is a programme and so I feel like a fake when it comes to teaching anything.

I'm more than willing to accept its a bad thing, what I'm mainly after is if others have had to deal with this issue, and if so, were they able to determine why they were like that? Is it a programme, what conditioning causes it? etc I sit there time and time again after having this compelling feeling, relaxing, and asking 'what is causing this' and have never found an answer.

cheers
Dean

 

[EmeraldHope]

Hi All,
I have become so aware of this lately that I felt I needed to talk about it, and that is as the subject line states, a lot of the time I am always feeling a need to teach others what I just learned.

Right off the bat, the term 'learned' could simply be something I read, and felt it made logical sense etc, so it doesn't mean I stumbled on some long lost truth.

But anyway, the areas in which this occurs the most are always areas in which I am seeking further knowledge and areas in which it would seem lots of people could benefit. As a musician I am studying quite intensely in the areas of recording/mixing and do not get this same urge here at all, but if I am reading SHOTW, the wave, or if I am studying finance, economics, politics, law, philosophy, psychology, anything of this nature, I learn something and then catch myself having this inner conversation with someone else as if I am teaching them. Sometimes I go as far as creating facebook statuses, youtube videos etc about some political thing or health news that I know most people will hate because they want to live in their ignorance is bliss bubble, but I feel compelled to do it anyway.

I don't know if this is a good thing, bad thing or what.

Here is an example in my business. Recently, I have been doing a long study on a particular section of traders in the stock markets, those who use a form of analysis called Elliott Wave. Elliott wave for those who don't know, is a form of analysis that claims to follow mass market psychology, and as such users of it believe by their very act of using it are contrarians. I used to follow quite a few famous EW blogs on the internet, and get excited when all of them became universal in their counts and predictions, only to find every single time, they would all be found wrong. So I studied this and I have found this occurs everytime, if the majority become unanimous in their predictions and counts, the market will prove them wrong and force them to change their counts (the reason they are forced to change their counts is because EW comes with a set of rules, and once a rule is broken, the count has to be changed).

Anyway, I have even made money based on this new research of mine, but I have now found myself wanting to share this with others, which seems to be contradictory, because if too many know about it, it will lose its effectiveness.

Most would probably not see any importance to this issue of mine when it comes to money or the markets, but more so when it comes to stuff like the work, the wave etc. I wonder if this issue is a bad thing?

I remember a post in this forum recently where someone had shared with a friend of theirs info about 4th density etc, and some long timers of this forum questioned her for it, stating that it is not up to us to do this, but only if someone asks for the information.

and this is why I get the feeling this need to teach is not a good thing. What makes this even more difficult is that now I question myself constantly, i.e. every act and thought I do I am assuming is a programme and so I feel like a fake when it comes to teaching anything.

cheers
Dean

It may would be helpful for you to search the glossary and the forum for "strategic enclosure" and "general law". That may help you understand a bit more why teaching those who do not ask about these things may not be such a good idea.

 

[tridean]

It may would be helpful for you to search the glossary and the forum for "strategic enclosure" and "general law". That may help you understand a bit more why teaching those who do not ask about these things may not be such a good idea.

I'm more than willing to accept its a bad thing, what I'm mainly after is if others have had to deal with this issue, and if so, were they able to determine why they were like that? Is it a programme, what conditioning causes it? etc I sit there time and time again after having this compelling feeling, relaxing, and asking 'what is causing this' and have never found an answer.

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SORRY, I had thought that I had left in the questions, but I must have deleted it. The questions I just posed to you Emerald Hope I had actyually asked in the initial post and then must have accidentally deleted it. Will edit the original now

 

[EmeraldHope]

I persoanlly have also experienced this Dingo. There is even an old saying- " You teach best what you most need to learn” So it seems to be a pretty common things since it has its own saying, lol.

 

[anart]

I persoanlly have also experienced this Dingo. There is even an old saying- " You teach best what you most need to learn” So it seems to be a pretty common things since it has its own saying, lol.

I don't think that is the dynamic at play here, because Dingo will not learn anything by immediately sharing knowledge he has discovered.

Dingo, what seems to be at play here is a lack of internal control, though it's not that simple. It's rather a complicated situation, because it involves incorporating knowledge into one's being versus spreading pearls before swine. When we are exposed to new Truths, we often, mechanically, desire to share these truths with others for social verification of them, and ourselves, and as a bit of an internal 'release' of the energy that accumulates internally with this new information. Rather than taking that energy and using it to 'seat' the knowledge inside ourselves, we mechanically look for a 'release' of the energy, manifested in 'telling others' to get their reactions either to the information or to our possession of the information.

That's a rather simplified explanation, but - long story short - next time you get the urge to immediately 'share' the knowledge, work to hold it - and notice what that feels like and what happens when you do that. It's worth a try and you might find it quite illuminating. fwiw.

 

[EmeraldHope]

I persoanlly have also experienced this Dingo. There is even an old saying- " You teach best what you most need to learn” So it seems to be a pretty common things since it has its own saying, lol.

I don't think that is the dynamic at play here, because Dingo will not learn anything by immediately sharing knowledge he has discovered.

Perhaps my wording is off, yet again , Anart. I was not implying from the standpoint of the work that Dingo would learn anything best by sharing it immedediately. I was trying to point out, although not very well I guess, that it was a common desire to want to do this. I was mainily responding to this part:

I'm more than willing to accept its a bad thing, what I'm mainly after is if others have had to deal with this issue, and if so, were they able to determine why they were like that? Is it a programme, what conditioning causes it? etc I sit there time and time again after having this compelling feeling, relaxing, and asking 'what is causing this' and have never found an answer.

In hindsight I should have quoted that as I did just now, and expressed the difference between that and that in relation to the work via strategic enclosure. Thank you for pointing out to me that my post was unclear.


edited- fixed quotes

 

[tridean]

I persoanlly have also experienced this Dingo. There is even an old saying- " You teach best what you most need to learn” So it seems to be a pretty common things since it has its own saying, lol.

I don't think that is the dynamic at play here, because Dingo will not learn anything by immediately sharing knowledge he has discovered.

Dingo, what seems to be at play here is a lack of internal control, though it's not that simple. It's rather a complicated situation, because it involves incorporating knowledge into one's being versus spreading pearls before swine. When we are exposed to new Truths, we often, mechanically, desire to share these truths with others for social verification of them, and ourselves, and as a bit of an internal 'release' of the energy that accumulates internally with this new information. Rather than taking that energy and using it to 'seat' the knowledge inside ourselves, we mechanically look for a 'release' of the energy, manifested in 'telling others' to get their reactions either to the information or to our possession of the information.

That's a rather simplified explanation, but - long story short - next time you get the urge to immediately 'share' the knowledge, work to hold it - and notice what that feels like and what happens when you do that. It's worth a try and you might find it quite illuminating. fwiw.

Thank you, shall make it a priority, and it wont be long before I get the chance, that I can be sure of :)

 

[anart]

Thank you, shall make it a priority, and it wont be long before I get the chance, that I can be sure of :)

Let us know how it goes. It should be interesting. :)

 

[tridean]

Thank you, shall make it a priority, and it wont be long before I get the chance, that I can be sure of :)

Let us know how it goes. It should be interesting. :)

Well, I'd like to report it is extremely difficult and frustrating. I shouldn't be, but I am amazed at how difficult it is. I am getting to the point where I feel the only way to stop these urges is to remove myself from my computer, any TV, and news, any social interactions. It just seems especially recently, that my buttons are continuously being pushed, even though I know it is not intentional, nevertheless they are more so than I can remember, especially in the area of politics, seeing as we just had an election.

This is all I have to report at the moment, I am embarrassed somewhat that I have nothing positive to report here at this point.

Maybe, that I have spilled my guts here, I will be able to hold back the next time I feel the urge to react.

 

[mada85]

Well, I'd like to report it is extremely difficult and frustrating. I shouldn't be, but I am amazed at how difficult it is. I am getting to the point where I feel the only way to stop these urges is to remove myself from my computer, any TV, and news, any social interactions. It just seems especially recently, that my buttons are continuously being pushed, even though I know it is not intentional, nevertheless they are more so than I can remember, especially in the area of politics, seeing as we just had an election.

This is all I have to report at the moment, I am embarrassed somewhat that I have nothing positive to report here at this point.

Maybe, that I have spilled my guts here, I will be able to hold back the next time I feel the urge to react.

Dingo, that sounds like progress to me. You have done something that 'it' doesn't like, and you have seen that Work on the self is difficult.

For a long time I was like you, wanting to impress others with my knowledge, especially about the types of subjects you mention. I found it really helpful to pay close attention to others' reaction when I told them what I knew, even if they hadn't asked for it. 99% of the time, their eyes would glaze over, and they would just dismiss what I had said with a grunt. Or, if they were being polite, they might appear interested, but I would subsequently find that they had not thought about the information at all. I considered my observations and talked to my self-important teacher part and explained that he was wasting his time by tossing pearls before swine, so to speak. I could also see that it was a very unproductive use of my energy, which could be used for better things.

At present, I think I have this impulse under control, but I often have to restrain myself. I understand too that it is frustrating because one wants to share, and to help others to open their eyes. But free will is most important here. If they have not asked, and are not open to these ideas, then what right do we have to force on them information that they do not want?

These days I broach these subjects very carefully, if, and only if, based on my interactions with the person, I think they are open to them. I think it is perfectly OK to gently test the waters, so to speak, to see if people are open to hearing a bit more. But if they show no interest, then I do not proceed.

 

[wanderer]

At present, I think I have this impulse under control, but I often have to restrain myself. I understand too that it is frustrating because one wants to share, and to help others to open their eyes. But free will is most important here. If they have not asked, and are not open to these ideas, then what right do we have to force on them information that they do not want?

These days I broach these subjects very carefully, if, and only if, based on my interactions with the person, I think they are open to them. I think it is perfectly OK to gently test the waters, so to speak, to see if people are open to hearing a bit more. But if they show no interest, then I do not proceed.

Yes, I have finally learned this too, and it's a matter of self control. In order to do that, of course, there has to be an "I" in control in that moment. We (those of us that are guilty of this kind of thing) have machines running that want to share this knowledge that's changed our lives. It's a good lesson in that respect, the feedback is usually immediate and wakes you up pretty quickly

9-11 is especially difficult, those evil Muslims that attacked us, yada, yada , yada. Should we let those evil Muslims build their evil mosque on the holy ground of 9-11? Should we bomb the bejeesus out of Iran before they get a chance to do what those other evil Muslims did...

I bite my tongue, when "I" am awake and in control. When someone says something that indicates that they have seen through the first layer of lies I say something supportive, without mentioning the next layer of lies that they are accepting as the context for their beliefs.

 

[davey72]

Hi Dingo.I have the same propensity(hope that's the right word) to try to talk to anyone i know about anything i have learned on the cassiopaea site,but i have never found one person that wants to hear it.Except for a friend that proved himself to be either a psycopath,or very disturbed.Thank goodness for this forum.I really cant figure out what took me so long to finally start using it.I am such a procrastinator.Thank you all.

 

[Menna]

I 2nd this. I also feel the need to share info, even if im not asked somehow the conversation will favor the topic and I will dive right in with the info I learned. Stepping out of my mind and looking at why I do this. Trying to look at it Objectively I believe I am looking for approval. Maybe its a program stemming from childhood seeking parents approval wanting to see that you are worthy of attention.

 

[davey72]

Emerald hope makes sense.I agree after thinking about it that we try to teach what we most need to learn.Maybe,kinda like we hate people for having the qualities that we hate in ourselves?

 

[Alana]

Emerald hope makes sense.I agree after thinking about it that we try to teach what we most need to learn.

Under the context of Dingo's post and his questions, the argument that "we try to teach what we most need to learn" is not appropriate. And that's because Dingo is not talking about people who wish/want/are willing to learn what he wants to "teach them". As Dingo is learning now by observing himself more in these situations (and good for you Dingo!) is that he has a very difficult time controlling his urge to "share". This indicates that Dingo needs to work on himself first and foremost (read Anart's reply to him above, about conserving his energy) and forget about "sharing his knowledge" with those in his environment. What can a machine not conscious of itself really teach another, anyway? Don't we need to be conscious, aware of our motivations behind the need to share and understanding fully what it is we are sharing, before we even begin to think about sharing?

And Dingo, i know how disappointing it is to watch yourself do something and feel how difficult (sometimes even painful) it is to just say "now i'll change!" and fail to do so. As if we are not in charge of ourselves, no? ;) But keep observing yourself, your urges and it will become easier, i promise. Often, when we decide to make an internal change, our false personality/programs, stage a revolt and make it even harder to implement the change we want to. Pay attention to exactly how you are feeling when you try to control your urge to tell, and note the emotions in your heart at that moment. Allow then that emotion to take you back in time and see where it originates: what does that discomfort/pain/negative feeling remind you of? Have you felt it at any point in your life before? When? Where? How old where you? This way you will find the unconscious program in you that does the most resisting to change and bring it to consciousness, thus placing it under your control instead of it controlling you.

Do not lose heart Dingo, persevere!