Indigo children and adults

[22/7]

Hello, I have searched the threads here and I have found a thread that basically indigo equals with psychopathology.
In my opinion, it is a grave error, although I know every form of difference is perceived in our world as pathology, autism being a good example.

What leads you to such conclusion, please?

What if they are 6D wanderers with some traits and capacities of having a vague memory of activated the 6th center.
That would include capacity of transcending polarity of the concept of good and evil. Knowing that STS help and need the STO and vice versa.
A lost sense of Unity and balance, notion of power of thoughts words and emotion. Capacity of 'knowing' the outcome because being able to deduce it from abstract principles, knowing time and space are illusory. The transdimesionality of the reality and thus beeing able to know how thoughts translate to words and than emotions and deeds. They might even 'read thoughts' since they know how deeds connect to thoughts.

Such person would be perceived by humans in a STS environment as....strange at least, if not evil.

Nice to meet you and I am looking forward to your opinions to the debate.

 

[22/7]

It would be a good idea, maybe, to ask the C's

 

[Oxajil]

You may be interested in this post by Laura: Link

 

[Kay Kim]

I don’t know much about Indigo children and adults, but I found some interesting information from Ra Material.

(L) Okay. Now, we have this question that Galatea wanted me to ask. Does anybody know if there are any more reports of ghostly black-eyed children other than this one? {Waving printed article.} Is this like becoming a wide-spread phenomenon?

(Chu) For months now.

(Perceval) For years.

(L) So it's not just in this location?

(Perceval) It started years ago, like maybe 8 or 9 years ago.

(Chu) Well, they said the first one was in the 1800s.

(Perceval) No, but I mean in the modern age. It's part of the "weird web" type of stuff, ya know? It's vaguely associated with New Age type things.

(L) Alright, so...

(Perceval) They're like the opposite of the Indigo Children

“63.16 Questioner: There are many children now who demonstrate the ability to bend metal mentally which is a fourth-density phenomenon. Would most of these children, then, be this type of entity of which we speak?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

51.10 Questioner: Immediately after the death of the physical body, you have stated that the, I believe I’m correct in saying that, primary activated body is the indigo, and you stated that it is the form-maker. Why is this so? Can you answer that?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this session of working.

The indigo body may be seen to be an analog for intelligent energy. It is, in microcosm, the Logos. The intelligent energy of the mind/body/spirit complex totality draws its existence from intelligent infinity or the Creator. This Creator is to be understood, both in macrocosm and microcosm, to have, as we have said, two natures: the unpotentiated infinity which is intelligent; this is all that there is.

Free will has potentiated both the Creator of us all and our selves as co-Creators with intelligent infinity which has will. This will may be drawn upon by the indigo, or form-making, body, and its wisdom used to then choose the appropriate locus and type of experience which this co-Creator or sub-sub-Logos you call so carelessly a person will take.

I am Ra. This is the time for any brief queries.

74.7 Questioner: I’m not sure if I understand this. The question is how do disciplines of the personality feed the indigo-ray energy center and affect the power of the white magician. Does that question make sense?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

63.18 Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is that, first, since the entities of harvestable third density who have very recently come here, they’re coming here late enough so that they will not affect the, shall I say, polarization through their teachings. They are not infringing on the first distortion because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect any of the polarization until the transition is well into transition. However, the Wanderers who came here and are older and have a greater ability to affect [polarization] must do that affecting as a function of their ability to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity is the Creator. The entity, as it becomes more and more conscious of its self, gradually comes to the turning point at which it determines to seek either in service to others or in service to self. The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work.

 

[Navigator]

There is also The Wave Chapter 58: Alien Reaction Machines in the second part of the chapter Laura mentions the Indigo children and an analysis.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

Oh maybe the Wanderers are present on our planet and have nothing or little to do with the concept of indigo children... I think you are interested in this topic in particular because according to your presentation in the forum your intuition tells you that you are a homeless man of sixth density, why sixth density and not one of fourth?, that is also possible, more than intuition and perhaps feeling special, what things make you think you are a Wanderer?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this session of working.

The indigo body may be seen to be an analog for intelligent energy. It is, in microcosm, the Logos. The intelligent energy of the mind/body/spirit complex totality draws its existence from intelligent infinity or the Creator. This Creator is to be understood, both in macrocosm and microcosm, to have, as we have said, two natures: the unpotentiated infinity which is intelligent; this is all that there is.

Free will has potentiated both the Creator of us all and our selves as co-Creators with intelligent infinity which has will. This will may be drawn upon by the indigo, or form-making, body, and its wisdom used to then choose the appropriate locus and type of experience which this co-Creator or sub-sub-Logos you call so carelessly a person will take.

It seems to me that what RA is describing could be the genetic body mentioned by the Cs; which, from what it says, would have the capacity to grow-increase its capacities in the face of more information.

 

[Puma]

Yes, I think Wanderers have nothing to do with the concept of indigo children

Indigo children are a social construct created from new age ideas. Perhaps with the motive of disguising certain psychological traits resulting from a chaotic social environment. As has been mentioned: "Pediatric psychiatrist Russell Barkley argues that the seventeen traits most commonly attributed to indigo children are so vague that they "could describe most people most of the time," and further refers that we could be dealing with a psychological phenomenon known as the "Forer Effect" (attribution of personality traits that are believed to be special but exist in everyone)."

The Cs have said in the past that there is nothing supernatural but that everything is natural.

Now the Cs have said in the past that the so-called Wanderers are Transient Passengers (TP) and they are unified thought form that transit all forms of reality. (Creative time traveler?)

I think that if this unified thought form wants to help in this 3D realm it will send a part/fraction of its soul matrix into this reality, such part(s) will have to pass through the veil and actually forget everything as a balancing rule between STO and STS

Q: (L) Okay, who created the Cassiopaeans?

A: Your super ancient spiritual ancestors.

Q: (L) Do these beings have a name?

A: No.

Q: (L) What are they called?

A: Transient Passenger

Q: (L) Are the 6th density Orions known as Transient Passengers?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So there are Transient Passengers that are STO as well as STS?

A: TP is "wanderer".

Q: (L) And what is a wanderer?

A: TP.

Q: (L) Well, the idea of the Wanderers, according to the Ra Material, is 4th or 5th density beings that have chosen to come back into 3rd density to help us. Would that be the same kind of Wanderer?

A: 5th or 6th density.

Q: (L) Now you mentioned the creators of your group as the super ancient ancestors called the transient passengers, what is the meaning of this term and who are these beings?

A: Transient passengers are not beings. Transient Passengers are unified thought form.

Q: (L) Why are they called transient passengers?

A: Because they transit all forms of reality. And they spring forth from the Unified form of existence.

From the Cass Wiki about Wanderers

This generally fits with the idea of coming from the future into the past in order to affect some
change or open some new possible outcome. This is discussed in many places in the Cassiopaean material, in which the concept of a sort of feedback loop or resonance between pasts and futures is quite central. The idea of the wanderer is one form of this, sending messages from the future to one’s past self being another idea along the general theme. If we see futures and pasts as if co-arising from a plane beyond time, one may even think that the future sends itself to the past in order to create itself. In order to avoid paradoxes, one cannot carry certain information in reliable form from the future to the past. Therefore, the wanderer forgets the world of origin, except as a vague recollection and messages from the future self cannot be authenticated or validated with
certainty, as is the case with channeling.

So i think the wanderer in 3D functions as an antenna of the sixth-density unified thought form

 

[22/7]

You may be interested in this post by Laura: Link

i have read it, thanks. A precise description of psychopathology but very little to do with indigo.

 

[22/7]

Yes, I think Wanderers have nothing to do with the concept of indigo children

Indigo children are a social construct created from new age ideas. Perhaps with the motive of disguising certain psychological traits resulting from a chaotic social environment. As has been mentioned: "Pediatric psychiatrist Russell Barkley argues that the seventeen traits most commonly attributed to indigo children are so vague that they "could describe most people most of the time," and further refers that we could be dealing with a psychological phenomenon known as the "Forer Effect" (attribution of personality traits that are believed to be special but exist in everyone)."

The Cs have said in the past that there is nothing supernatural but that everything is natural.

Now the Cs have said in the past that the so-called Wanderers are Transient Passengers (TP) and they are unified thought form that transit all forms of reality. (Creative time traveler?)

I think that if this unified thought form wants to help in this 3D realm it will send a part/fraction of its soul matrix into this reality, such part(s) will have to pass through the veil and actually forget everything as a balancing rule between STO and STS






From the Cass Wiki about Wanderers


So i think the wanderer in 3D functions as an antenna of the sixth-density unified thought form

Thanks. The subjects, indeed, have to do with each other. The latest conclusion seems to me true, maybe, they just comunicate between each other, with the indifgo 6th to have the upper hand

 

[22/7]

I don’t know much about Indigo children and adults, but I found some interesting information from Ra Material.



“63.16 Questioner: There are many children now who demonstrate the ability to bend metal mentally which is a fourth-density phenomenon. Would most of these children, then, be this type of entity of which we speak?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

51.10 Questioner: Immediately after the death of the physical body, you have stated that the, I believe I’m correct in saying that, primary activated body is the indigo, and you stated that it is the form-maker. Why is this so? Can you answer that?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this session of working.

The indigo body may be seen to be an analog for intelligent energy. It is, in microcosm, the Logos. The intelligent energy of the mind/body/spirit complex totality draws its existence from intelligent infinity or the Creator. This Creator is to be understood, both in macrocosm and microcosm, to have, as we have said, two natures: the unpotentiated infinity which is intelligent; this is all that there is.

Free will has potentiated both the Creator of us all and our selves as co-Creators with intelligent infinity which has will. This will may be drawn upon by the indigo, or form-making, body, and its wisdom used to then choose the appropriate locus and type of experience which this co-Creator or sub-sub-Logos you call so carelessly a person will take.

I am Ra. This is the time for any brief queries.

74.7 Questioner: I’m not sure if I understand this. The question is how do disciplines of the personality feed the indigo-ray energy center and affect the power of the white magician. Does that question make sense?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

63.18 Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is that, first, since the entities of harvestable third density who have very recently come here, they’re coming here late enough so that they will not affect the, shall I say, polarization through their teachings. They are not infringing on the first distortion because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect any of the polarization until the transition is well into transition. However, the Wanderers who came here and are older and have a greater ability to affect [polarization] must do that affecting as a function of their ability to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity is the Creator. The entity, as it becomes more and more conscious of its self, gradually comes to the turning point at which it determines to seek either in service to others or in service to self. The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work.

Thank you for the quotes. Very wisely chosen. I feel great sense of comprehension.

 

[Nienna]

i have read it, thanks. A precise description of psychopathology but very little to do with indigo.

Really? Because a promoter of indigo children, Wendy Chapman, is the one who put down the descriptions of indigo children that compares quite well with the descriptions of psychopaths. Did you read that part? Here it is for those who haven't read it:

Have strong self esteem, connection to source Know they belong here until they are told otherwise
Have an obvious sense of self
Have difficulty with discipline and authority
Refuse to follow orders or directions
Find it torture to waiting in lines, lack patience
Get frustrated by ritual-oriented systems that require little creativity
Often see better ways of doing thing at home and at school
Are mostly nonconformists
Do not respond to guilt trips, want good reasons
Get bored rather easily with assigned tasks
Are rather creative
Are easily distractible, can do many things at once
Display strong intuition
Have strong empathy for others or NO empathy
Develop abstract thinking very young
Are gifted and/or talented, highly intelligent
Are often identified or suspected of having ADD or ADHD, but can focus when they want to
Are talented daydreamers and visionaries
Have very old, deep, wise looking eyes
Have spiritual intelligence and/or psychic skills
Often express anger outwardly rather than inwardly and may have trouble with rage
Need our support to discover themselves
Are here to change the world - to help us live in greater harmony and peace with one another and to raise the vibration of the planet

In fact, what Laura has written in that post would be good for all to read. Here is the link again.

By the way, wanting to change the world is a STS vision. It is going against god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. Thinking that you know better than god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. We are not here to change the world, we are here to change ourselves into better human beings.

Also the link provided by Navigator is well worth a read. Well, the whole Wave Series is well worth a read.

There is also The Wave Chapter 58: Alien Reaction Machines in the second part of the chapter Laura mentions the Indigo children and an analysis.

Indigo children are all apart of the New Age mumbo jumbo.

 

[benkostka]

In fact, what Laura has written in that post would be good for all to read. Here is the link again.

By the way, wanting to change the world is a STS vision. It is going against god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. Thinking that you know better than god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. We are not here to change the world, we are here to change ourselves into better human beings

Definitely helped me reading that and most of these issues have already been put to rest.

I don’t see how a healthy society of Indigo Children could be formed! They’re all so special, who would cut the grass or clean the dishes? They’re too busy saving the world to worry about mundane things. Even resorting to murder apparently, what a mess.

 

[22/7]

Really? Because a promoter of indigo children, Wendy Chapman, is the one who put down the descriptions of indigo children that compares quite well with the descriptions of psychopaths. Did you read that part? Here it is for those who haven't read it:

In fact, what Laura has written in that post would be good for all to read. Here is the link again.

By the way, wanting to change the world is a STS vision. It is going against god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. Thinking that you know better than god/Divine Cosmic Mind/Universe. We are not here to change the world, we are here to change ourselves into better human beings.

Also the link provided by Navigator is well worth a read. Well, the whole Wave Series is well worth a read.

Indigo children are all apart of the New Age mumbo jumbo.

Hello Nienna, thank you for your input but I do not care about what Wendy Chapman writes, her opinion is only interesting.
I do not even care about 'the concept' of indigo children or whatever you call it. My question is rather how come there are people who tend to like indigo colour and have exceptional abilities, like transdimensinal lecture of reality. My conclusion is they have better communication between 6th D (Higher Self) and 3D here.

They are aware of their abilities which make others, like you, react in an aggressive mode. Btw you have these capacities, as any other, too. The 6th D transcends duality and have synthetised STS/STO polarity. Your lecture of things, reading them in an exclusive STS way speaks more about you.

 

[Laura]

Hello Nienna, thank you for your input but I do not care about what Wendy Chapman writes, her opinion is only interesting.
I do not even care about 'the concept' of indigo children or whatever you call it. My question is rather how come there are people who tend to like indigo colour and have exceptional abilities, like transdimensinal lecture of reality. My conclusion is they have better communication between 6th D (Higher Self) and 3D here.

They are aware of their abilities which make others, like you, react in an aggressive mode. Btw you have these capacities, as any other, too. The 6th D transcends duality and have synthetised STS/STO polarity. Your lecture of things, reading them in an exclusive STS way speaks more about you.

22/7, I don't care about your opinion; further, you don't provide any real data to support your claims. You have insulted a mod/admin of this forum, so I suggest you find another forum for your paramoralizing.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

My conclusion is they have better communication between 6th D (Higher Self) and 3D here.

What is your conclusion based on.? Do you know of or have you proof of this ability?

react in an aggressive mode.

Call me slow but can you show me where the aggressive mode appears?